Yeah man!!! My 6th grade art teacher got me into Estes model rockets back in the late 60's . Remember getting those Estes catalogs in the mail. Use to save my allowance and probably once a month would send them an envelope full of dollar bills and change and order a new rocket from them. That was when you had to totally build them yourself. Cutting out the fins from the balsa wood sheets with grandma's kitchen knife, sanding them and gluing them to the rocket tube. Trying to get everything reasonably straight and/or square. Even the nose cones were balsa wood back then. And the paint that Estes sold for rockets was wicked stuff!!! Ahhh those wonderful toxic fumes!!! Was always very happy when I painted. BUZZ!!! Had the Streak, Alpha, Big Bertha, X-Ray, Honest John, Falcon Glider, among others. Once launched the Alpha with a BIG engine and an 18" chute. It was early evening just before sunset and dead calm out. That Alpha went straight up and I mean WAY up. That big chute deployed and opened right up and it took that rocket like 10 minutes to float back down and it landed like 20 feet from the launch pad. Best flight I ever did. Man those WERE the good old days.
I had several of these rockets back then, I had the Nike Ajax, LTV Scout, Photon Disruptor, Space Shuttle, Aerobee 300, and Apogee II, also the Fire Fly glider and the Scissor Wing.
I had that catalog, have many of the kits listed (both built and/or still in-the-bag/box). Clearly the glory days of Estes and model rocketry in general.
Agreed! I see sort Rocketry Renaissance taking place at Estes, as they have been re issuing some of the great ones. But this catalog is packed with greats. Thanks for you Sub also.
So cool that you made this video! I had a teacher in grade school who had Estes rockets displayed in his classroom and also had a club after school. Great memories of the 70s! Thanks for posting this!!
@@modelrockets3215 It really was a cool thing and what got me into Rocketry all those years back. I think 5th or 6th grade. I later collected a bunch of the old catalogs and it was a trip down memory lane. I enjoyed how you went page but page.....BTW.... I posted pics on Instagram if you’re interested in seeing some vintage kits and builds from my collection see colteep to check them out. Sure would like to get out and fly some of them.
The '76 catalog was one of my favorites! I had the Space Shuttle and the Star Trek Enterprise, plus at least one rocket from every page of that catalog. And, of course, I was a member of the Estes Aerospace Club!
My mind is blown... Until I saw this video, I didn't know about this version of the catalog. What caught my eye was that the Cineroc was discontinued in 1975, apparently after this version had been published and distributed. All the usual resources didn't have this version of it. Turns out that 1976 had 3 versions of the catalog (2 color catalogs, and one Christmas catalog). All The Best!!! K'Tesh
BEC uploaded a scan of the entire catalog over at The Rocketry Forum. You can find it with a search for "A 1976 Catalog With The Cineroc Exists????!!!!" down in post #6. Thanks to ModelRockets321 and BEC for this!
Cold power used r-12 refrigerant, I saw these when I was a kid at the hobby shop and dismissed them. What I did not ever think they would be worth $$$$$$
I had this catalog and like someone else's comment, wore it out. My brothers and I had the cold power rocket cars also, loved them, fast asl back in the day! I built a wind tunnel that year with my Dad's assistance for a science fair project, I bought many of the kit parts from the catalog, somewhere in the middle was a building kit that included multiple size tubes and nose cones. I also bought the altitude guage that can be seen in the parts section of this video along with many of the documents he glossed over. I still have the written report of my project "Aerodynamics of Model Rockets" my mother saved along with my State of Illinois regional 1st place award ribbon. I was in 7th grade competing against 7th-12th grade students. Great memories and a great hobby!
Thanks for the video. So many memories. I had this catalog and built model rockets from this up until the Early eighties. I remember building the Saros, Challenger II , Mosquito, Nike Ajax, Maxi Alpha III, and a few others. I bought the scale V-2 but never got around to building it. This was a nice trip back in time. A good bit of nostalgia. I'll be subscribing and look forward to watching more of your videos. Thank you. 👍
FWIW: I remember seeing the *CAMROC* and *CINEROC* in their catalogs back then. Beiing a teenager at the time, I did not have the $$$ purchase either one. In the 1980s I purchased an *ASTROCAM 110* and modified it to do _"Kite Aerial Photography"_ {or KAP} by building a simple frame to suspend it from a kite line, and added a _model airplane dethermalizer timer_ to activate the shutter after a preset number of minutes.
Man, I had this catalog, and wore that thing out! Thanks for keeping this and making this! Loved the Mars Snooper II and the Mars Lander---those were my fave designs from "back in the day"!
Thanks for doing this! Lot of good memories. Since you asked... Estes is pronounced "Es - tess" (tess rhymes with "stress") No debate. Heard the man introduce himself, so it's right out of Vern's mouth. Yes, it WAS a 12 V and no, it was not included (page 4 - 5.) Used the standard Rayovac #926 lantern battery. I had the Deluxe Starter kit (page 6.) That was an Alpha rocket. It came with some big clamps to fit a car battery. My dad gave me an old deep cycle he had laying around and I pulled it down to the launch field in my wagon. I always loved the parts, accessories, and tools (the red pages starting at 9:17.) Always ignited my imagination, "Oh the stuff I could build with this!!" Page 26, 27, some of my favorites of all time. Pretty cool that they put all their catalogs online: estesrockets.com/catalogs/
Nice memories! I had probably a dozen different Estes rockets. I did have the Orbital Transport which flew great! Always wanted the Mars Lander and Interceptor. I took the plunge and got the Cameroc -back then I paid $5; on the third flight I used the FarSide three stage, third engine popped out and it dived into the ground and shattered. A8-3's were 90 cents then! Pack of three came in a light blue cardboard tube.
@@modelrockets3215 Like to see those prices again. I went on midlife crisis spending spree after Navy and went to town on big lots like Saturn V and others. 1500$ later., said “i’m NUTS” and sold them again. just miss them multi engine clusters. Def good times
The Coldpower system was based on some liquid in a can that you transferred to an aluminum engine (basically a tank with a nozzle). When released, the liquid expanded and produced thrust. But it left the engine actually frosty, thus the name. I think the liquid was CO2, but it might have been Freon, being the Seventies. Hadn't started caring yet, I guess. The Coldpower Convertibles all had engine mounts for a regular engine or one of the Coldpower tanks. I remember the Coldpower rockets had a complicated ejection system that used pressure from the tank to inflate a rubber seal that held back a spring-loaded piston; when the tank ran out, the piston would release and push out the recovery system. I had a boost-glider that used the Coldpower engine to climb, then glide back down. It worked, but not often. The motor was fiddly to refill, especially on a hot day, and the motor and fill system leaked. The cans of "fuel" were expensive for a twelve-year-old, and didn't last long. But it was good fun when it worked, and no fire/burn hazards. Haven't thought about it for decades- thanks for the memories!
Estes bought the rights to make the coldpower engines from Vashon industries. Yes, it was freon powered. We didn't know about the harm of freon back then.
The Cold Power fuel was a refrigerant (freon). They concluded that freon was bad for the ozone layer so they decided to discontinue the sale of this product. Sad. The Screamin Eagle Land Rocket was what got me started in the rocketry hobby back in 1974.
I had the Red Max, the Javelin, the Super Flea, maybe the Viper (it looks familiar), a few rockets from the Goonybird line, and a few more that I don't even remember, it was so long ago now. I'm pretty sure I had a Vashon (one of Estes' competitors) rocket that my father had found in the parking lot at his job, which is what started it all for us. I also had this catalog, and was a member of the Estes Aerospace Club. Thanks so much for the trip back to 1976, I really enjoyed it. Liked and Subscribed.
I had the Bandit, Mosquito, X -wing, Red Max, Cherokee D, Nike Ajax among others. I even ended up building a launch controller that had an automatic countdown and launch on zero.
The first American space shuttle -- not counting Enterprise -- was launched in 1980 or 1981. {I should remember -- was 19 & 20 those years -- but I suck at remembering dates...🙄}
Great trip down memory lane. That was just a few years before I got in to rockets.
I wish I still had all my old rocket catalogs.
I had that catalog. I was a senior in high school then. The Bicentennial was a big deal.
Very nice. I was born in '76. Yeah I heard about the bicentennial.
Back then we hand cut our fins, the nose cones were made of balsa wood, and you needed a license ( in NJ ) to buy the engines
I remember that stupid license in NJ.
@@modelrockets3215 I am wondering if I still have my NJ permit somewhere in my rocket archive.
I remember this! Thanks 👍
Bam! Rush of memories...!
I had a couple of x-rays in the early 70's. Loved them.
Yes X Ray's are a sweet design. I have one still still sealed
Yeah man!!! My 6th grade art teacher got me into Estes model rockets back in the late 60's . Remember getting those Estes catalogs in the mail. Use to save my allowance and probably once a month would send them an envelope full of dollar bills and change and order a new rocket from them. That was when you had to totally build them yourself. Cutting out the fins from the balsa wood sheets with grandma's kitchen knife, sanding them and gluing them to the rocket tube. Trying to get everything reasonably straight and/or square. Even the nose cones were balsa wood back then. And the paint that Estes sold for rockets was wicked stuff!!! Ahhh those wonderful toxic fumes!!! Was always very happy when I painted. BUZZ!!! Had the Streak, Alpha, Big Bertha, X-Ray, Honest John, Falcon Glider, among others. Once launched the Alpha with a BIG engine and an 18" chute. It was early evening just before sunset and dead calm out. That Alpha went straight up and I mean WAY up. That big chute deployed and opened right up and it took that rocket like 10 minutes to float back down and it landed like 20 feet from the launch pad. Best flight I ever did. Man those WERE the good old days.
I remember that Catalog. Always got my Centuri and Estes catalogs till I joined the Navy. Wish I had hung on to them
So fun. Thanks.
Thank you for that nice trip down memory lane.
You're welcome no problem. I figured some people would enjoy it as I do.
I had several of these rockets back then, I had the Nike Ajax, LTV Scout, Photon Disruptor, Space Shuttle, Aerobee 300, and Apogee II, also the Fire Fly glider and the Scissor Wing.
I had that catalog, have many of the kits listed (both built and/or still in-the-bag/box). Clearly the glory days of Estes and model rocketry in general.
Agreed! I see sort Rocketry Renaissance taking place at Estes, as they have been re issuing some of the great ones. But this catalog is packed with greats. Thanks for you Sub also.
So cool that you made this video! I had a teacher in grade school who had Estes rockets displayed in his classroom and also had a club after school. Great memories of the 70s! Thanks for posting this!!
Appreciate that story, That's peace. And The after school club cool
@@modelrockets3215 It really was a cool thing and what got me into Rocketry all those years back. I think 5th or 6th grade. I later collected a bunch of the old catalogs and it was a trip down memory lane. I enjoyed how you went page but page.....BTW.... I posted pics on Instagram if you’re interested in seeing some vintage kits and builds from my collection see colteep to check them out. Sure would like to get out and fly some of them.
The '76 catalog was one of my favorites! I had the Space Shuttle and the Star Trek Enterprise, plus at least one rocket from every page of that catalog. And, of course, I was a member of the Estes Aerospace Club!
The Aerospace Club rocket was called the Viper. I had a BT80 upscale kit from Q-Modeling, which I bashed into a MGR-3 Little John.
My mind is blown... Until I saw this video, I didn't know about this version of the catalog. What caught my eye was that the Cineroc was discontinued in 1975, apparently after this version had been published and distributed. All the usual resources didn't have this version of it. Turns out that 1976 had 3 versions of the catalog (2 color catalogs, and one Christmas catalog). All The Best!!! K'Tesh
BEC uploaded a scan of the entire catalog over at The Rocketry Forum. You can find it with a search for "A 1976 Catalog With The Cineroc Exists????!!!!" down in post #6. Thanks to ModelRockets321 and BEC for this!
Cold power used r-12 refrigerant, I saw these when I was a kid at the hobby shop and dismissed them. What I did not ever think they would be worth $$$$$$
I had one, I loved it.
I had this catalog and like someone else's comment, wore it out. My brothers and I had the cold power rocket cars also, loved them, fast asl back in the day! I built a wind tunnel that year with my Dad's assistance for a science fair project, I bought many of the kit parts from the catalog, somewhere in the middle was a building kit that included multiple size tubes and nose cones. I also bought the altitude guage that can be seen in the parts section of this video along with many of the documents he glossed over. I still have the written report of my project "Aerodynamics of Model Rockets" my mother saved along with my State of Illinois regional 1st place award ribbon. I was in 7th grade competing against 7th-12th grade students. Great memories and a great hobby!
Thanks for sharing, that's amazing! Congrats on winning. Great story
Thanks for the video. So many memories. I had this catalog and built model rockets from this up until the Early eighties. I remember building the Saros, Challenger II , Mosquito, Nike Ajax, Maxi Alpha III, and a few others. I bought the scale V-2 but never got around to building it.
This was a nice trip back in time. A good bit of nostalgia. I'll be subscribing and look forward to watching more of your videos. Thank you. 👍
Thank you!
FWIW: I remember seeing the *CAMROC* and *CINEROC* in their catalogs back then. Beiing a teenager at the time, I did not have the $$$ purchase either one.
In the 1980s I purchased an *ASTROCAM 110* and modified it to do _"Kite Aerial Photography"_ {or KAP} by building a simple frame to suspend it from a kite line, and added a _model airplane dethermalizer timer_ to activate the shutter after a preset number of minutes.
Man, I had this catalog, and wore that thing out! Thanks for keeping this and making this! Loved the Mars Snooper II and the Mars Lander---those were my fave designs from "back in the day"!
Thanks for doing this! Lot of good memories.
Since you asked... Estes is pronounced "Es - tess" (tess rhymes with "stress") No debate. Heard the man introduce himself, so it's right out of Vern's mouth.
Yes, it WAS a 12 V and no, it was not included (page 4 - 5.) Used the standard Rayovac #926 lantern battery. I had the Deluxe Starter kit (page 6.) That was an Alpha rocket. It came with some big clamps to fit a car battery. My dad gave me an old deep cycle he had laying around and I pulled it down to the launch field in my wagon.
I always loved the parts, accessories, and tools (the red pages starting at 9:17.) Always ignited my imagination, "Oh the stuff I could build with this!!" Page 26, 27, some of my favorites of all time.
Pretty cool that they put all their catalogs online: estesrockets.com/catalogs/
Thanks for commenting and sharing. The wagon stories great visual! 👍🏾
I used a few of them big batteries till i went full car battery. good memories.
Nice memories! I had probably a dozen different Estes rockets. I did have the Orbital Transport which flew great! Always wanted the Mars Lander and Interceptor. I took the plunge and got the Cameroc -back then I paid $5; on the third flight I used the FarSide three stage, third engine popped out and it dived into the ground and shattered. A8-3's were 90 cents then! Pack of three came in a light blue cardboard tube.
Wow memories. I remember buying one of the car kits. “Interesting “. Always reordering the mosquito and Astro as I kept losing them. Good times.
Thanks for checking it put. Glad it being back some memories for you.
@@modelrockets3215 Like to see those prices again. I went on midlife crisis spending spree after Navy and went to town on big lots like Saturn V and others. 1500$ later., said “i’m NUTS” and sold them again.
just miss them multi engine clusters. Def good times
Great video! I wish they would re-issue the Pershing & original space shuttle. V2 looks awesome.
The Coldpower system was based on some liquid in a can that you transferred to an aluminum engine (basically a tank with a nozzle). When released, the liquid expanded and produced thrust. But it left the engine actually frosty, thus the name. I think the liquid was CO2, but it might have been Freon, being the Seventies. Hadn't started caring yet, I guess.
The Coldpower Convertibles all had engine mounts for a regular engine or one of the Coldpower tanks. I remember the Coldpower rockets had a complicated ejection system that used pressure from the tank to inflate a rubber seal that held back a spring-loaded piston; when the tank ran out, the piston would release and push out the recovery system. I had a boost-glider that used the Coldpower engine to climb, then glide back down. It worked, but not often. The motor was fiddly to refill, especially on a hot day, and the motor and fill system leaked. The cans of "fuel" were expensive for a twelve-year-old, and didn't last long. But it was good fun when it worked, and no fire/burn hazards. Haven't thought about it for decades- thanks for the memories!
Estes bought the rights to make the coldpower engines from Vashon industries. Yes, it was freon powered. We didn't know about the harm of freon back then.
The Cold Power fuel was a refrigerant (freon). They concluded that freon was bad for the ozone layer so they decided to discontinue the sale of this product. Sad. The Screamin Eagle Land Rocket was what got me started in the rocketry hobby back in 1974.
I had the Red Max, the Javelin, the Super Flea, maybe the Viper (it looks familiar), a few rockets from the Goonybird line, and a few more that I don't even remember, it was so long ago now. I'm pretty sure I had a Vashon (one of Estes' competitors) rocket that my father had found in the parking lot at his job, which is what started it all for us. I also had this catalog, and was a member of the Estes Aerospace Club. Thanks so much for the trip back to 1976, I really enjoyed it. Liked and Subscribed.
Then a few years later, that Star Trek Starter set got rereleased as the Star Wars Proton Torpedo; exact same kit with different colors.
I had the Bandit, Mosquito, X -wing, Red Max, Cherokee D, Nike Ajax among others. I even ended up building a launch controller that had an automatic countdown and launch on zero.
I use to have one if those.
5:58 The Red Max is meow $17.88 on Amazon.
🙂 a meow. Things have gone up lol
14:25 The 1/100 scale Saturn V is meow discontinued and listed around $200 on eBay.... If you can find them at all!
Yeah those Saturn's are "GRAILS" now.
They already did re release the shuttle a 4-5 yrs ago. They also re released the Interceptor, and Trident I believe.
Are you sure about that? The full stack with the boosters and tank? I don't remember that
I had to laugh when he exclaimed "look they had electronics back in 1976 !
( Im thinking....wow imagine electronics way back in 1976)
I think he was referring to tiny boards that could transmit a signal to help you locate a lost rocket. I didn't know they had them back then either.
The first American space shuttle -- not counting Enterprise -- was launched in 1980 or 1981.
{I should remember -- was 19 & 20 those years -- but I suck at remembering dates...🙄}
BTW- I Sub’d to your channel if I didn’t already mention that! Cool Stuff Bro.
Thanks for sub appreciate it!