One thing I think it's very valuable to talk about when discussing any sort of clothing type product is materials and stitching. My last pair of G Forms had some serious stitch failure after not too long and seemed much less well made than the pair I had gotten before. I'm definitely looking at trying another brand and am going to be looking for something that looks like it's well made.
Great comparison, as good as the one on FF helmets. Obviously missing some interesting products like Leatt and RaceFace, but it’s pretty impossible to have all of them. I bought myself several of these to test them out on me: G-Form E-line, Endura MT500 HS, 7iDP Sam Hill, iXS Carve Race and POC Oseus VPD. The last 2 are not in the video, but are similar. Three things to myself: I’ve been riding Allmountain in the past 3 years, doing it a little bit harder lately. The second is I’ve been extremely happy with my iXS Flow Evo knee guards, but after all these years the upper part is falling a bit. And the third one is I’ve switched to flat pedals in the last months. My comments on the mentioned knee guards are: - POC VPD: awesome quality feel (starting with the packaging) and feel, very minimalistic, but still some side protection (which the iXS Flow miss). Very confortable as well, but the cons were: the side protection is rather quite low, not precisely on the knee itself (where I had some crashes), it lacks velcro strap (so I’m afraid it occurs the same as with my iXS Flow that end up falling a bit after some years), it lacks hard shell (which I turned to be convinced from the video to be a good thing) and with 140€ it is by far the most expensive (being quite similar to the budget friendly iXS Flow). - 7iDP: by far the cheapest one, very confortable as well and good protection but weird for me (I would have preferred to have a wider EVA protection on the knee itself), good long protection for flats but aesthetically way too long up and down. It lacks as well hard shell and velcro strap (although I saw no review complaining about dropping with time). It was as well surprisingly hot for how simple and breathable it looks. It was also noisy when moving the knee like pedaling. - G-Form E-Line: indeed very confortable and practical to be able to put on and off without having to take off your shoes (not so much in my case though), lovely hard shell, but by for the bulkiest (way too much for me), not only in the front, especially when standing up, but also on the sides (since there’s no tension behind pulling it back). Whereas it is probably the most protective of all 5, I found some critical spaces between the different pads, being able to touch directly the bones than with other pads. I found them also quite hot although the empty back provides some freshness. - Endura MT500 HS and iXS Carve Race: both my favorite ones and I had my doubts about the final decision since they are VERY similar. They both are very protective but not as bulky as the G-Forms, they have hard shell, both have velcro straps up and down and have a very similar length. The final decision was though based on little details: for the Endura I preferred the HS over the iXS’ (although having some holes is probably more breathable) and liked it having also silicon on the lower part. I found the side foam protection a bit thicker as well. And the velcro straps had some plastic ends which are extremely helpful for opening, but also much more prone to get caught with shorts. For the iXS it looked like it stood better in place after moving around and sitting, it had some thick protection above knee (which I never missed with my iXS Flows though), a thicker pad (which may be completely unscientific but provides more confidence), a bit wider pad which covered the inner knee bone a bit better and although thinner side protection, when touching with the fingers it looked all in all a bit better protected. The pad was also removable, which is absolutely no must, but another advantage. With a lucky offer when ordering they were also 6€ cheaper. So in the end, I went for the iXS as you may imagine, but it is very personal the decision, so I hope with this feedback someone can find something else as well.
I really like the TLD Stage pads. Never have to adjust them. I have some poc and RaceFace that don't get used anymore due to comfort and slipping issues. Thanks for showing how they all look, fit, and bend on someone's legs.
I have had my set of tld Speed sleeve for probably 5 years now I have crashed in them ..... a lot! In uk woodland and rocky trails and they have been great and as for fit, once there on you forget you are wearing pands. One last plus is as you can imagine over this length of time they have been through the washer quite a bit and are still going strong 👍🏻
Great review. I will never go back to pull-on/Pull-over knee pads after owning a pair of Race Face Ambush Knee Pads. The feature of being able to put on or take off without taking off your shoes is priceless for me.
IXS Carve pads are so comfortable. Way more protection than those light “trail pads” but I wear mine every ride and don’t notice them at all. My dad and buddy both bought a pair after me and love them as well
Oh great, yet another MTB UA-cam channel I have to follow lmao. You make by far the best content on gear though. I was a BMX rider for a number of years. In that time I wouldn't wear any gear. Started wearing a helmet at the skatepark a couple years back. Plus would occasionally throw on some G Form shin pads under my jeans when trying to learn something new (slipping a pedal is annoyingly common in BMX lol.) But now that I'm getting a little bit older, my body just isn't able to take the same hits that it used to. Paying more attention to proper safety gear for riding the mountains. I do have to admit, I am being drawn to Fox knee pads to match the logo on my helmet as stupid as that sounds haha. But luckily, they make some great helmets and knee pads (where they are lacking in some other categories.)
The G-Form E-Lines are the best knee pads I've ever had!! Smashed my knees into the ground a few times and the pads didnt move or slide and provided protection preventing my knee from getting all messed up.
glad to hear that. ive had multiple elbow and knee pads from g form. the shin knee combo stacked with the x2 pads for the knees. they always rotated on impact
im considering those pads but im curious if they slide from the knee? Few years ago i had alpinestars paragon(sleeve style) and they started to slide after few rides.
@@todorvassilev8592 so far mine don’t slide at all. I have been in my 7iDP flex pads for about 4months and ride about 2-3 times per week. They have a silicone band inside that helps them stick to your skin. Hope that helps
Good job on this review, I thought you would include the Raceface pads. These are easiest to use and most comfortable. Plus you don't have to take your shoes off to put them on. That's a win right there. On IXS, I wanted them to work but if you are a bigger guy, they WON'T FIT. I tried the XL and couldn't get them over my calf. Enter in Raceface...
10.37 yea common sense for sure, makes sense, I have sliding caps on my Poc Joint VPD 2.0 long knee pads, I have a review on my website. I have two pairs, so I wash one and let it try and use the other. great coverage.
I bought the pocs as my first knee pad doing enduro tracks and I do 4hr rides in them. I agree they are uncomfortable when standing but never notice it on the bike. I think they are also lacking side protection, had one fall in the rocks and cut the outside of my lower knee.
I've crashed using a slip-on style knee pad. It shifted down and I had a deep cut on my knee. I'll not use slip-on models anymore. That Endura MT500 meets my needs and there are discounts out there. Thanks for the informative video!
@@TheLoamWolf The Endura MT500 is impossible to find here in my region. The Fox Enduro D3o is available. Do you think that the Fox Enduro will stay in place in an event of a crash?
Really good video. Newbie to MTB world. Got a lot of bike under me and ran out of talent last night without pads … ouch 😆😂 Helped me pick a set out Thank you from the UK ✌️
Damn! I ride on the aggressive side of eMTB and now searching for new pads to replace my IXS Flow Evo pads, which I have ridden for like 4 years. You had me convinced with the 7 SamHill pads!!!... until you said they were hot. Bummer. Now back to not knowing what the hell to choose. All the other ones are too "light" and with more cons than pros. Thanks for the review!!!
Late to the party, but enjoyed the review. Great job! I'm a 7iDP fan, and have been using the Sam Hill Lite version, as have 2 other family members. Recently purchased their "Transition knee/shin" pad and it is fantastic. I also just purchased their flex shorts, after a recent off bike experience that left me with a small bit of hip rash.
11:12 I've crash tested the Leatt Airflex Pro, don't use them for gnarly riding, only for XC riding or flow trails, no falling off 1m rock rollers, and smashing knee into rocks. I was in agony but managed to get home, but I got huge swelling, and could not bend my legs enough to walk normally for 3 days, but it took at least over a week before I was good enough to ride, but I am good now. But I got the new Pearl Izumi Elevate knee and elbow pads. they have a 1cm thick D3O pad, they are removable too, the pads are easy to put on, when the knee is straight the D3O pad gets lifted off the leg which adds more air flow, the D3O pad has many vents. the sleeves at the thigh is long, if you pull it up high enough the pads fit securely. You should definitely check out these pads, I've only had few rides on them, but I don't get soaked in sweat, no get rashes, even when riding in temps close to 30C, still warm, but not overheating. and I actually notice the breeze trough the vents. but with Poc VPD2.0 DH pads I would get soaked in sweat and get rashes at the leg.
What you said about the POCs is spot on. The curve is digging in to ur shin and is really painful. I got the VPD airs instead which are much better than the Systems. I have friends who ride the systems which says that they are good after they warm up. If I cant even stand up with them on without pain they will never warm up. Avoid.
I have both as well - VPD Air and just got the Systems in December. The Air pads are just too small and low on the thigh. I did noticed the shin pain with the Systems right out of the box, but they get much better with time. Now, I’d say the System is more comfy but I wouldn’t put them in the downhill class.
It's interesting everybody is just built different, I tried the G form, and they were the least comfortable pads, couldn't get a size that fit right either too loose and wouldn't stay in place or way too tight. But for me the POC's are super comfortable whether climbing in the mountains or summer rides if Florida, and the protection is top-notch. I think if there is one thing people should take from any type of review like this is you have to try things on and see what works for you.
POC VPD 2.0 is best pad I ever used. I ride BMX in big bowls. They stay put, are super comfortable, and WOW they can take a hit. HIGHLY recommend. I don't think POC was represented well by those slip on models. Definitely not their top pad in protection, just a different avenue for people that hate straps.
Some of those lighter ones make me wonder if I’d be better off to, and get more protection from, just sticking some adhesive back EVA foam sheet to some leggings
I’ve got the fox enduro d30 pads. They are lightweight and comfortable but not durable. Ive torn the sleeve in multiple spots just from putting them on/taking them off
Ordered some Chromag Rift pads a few days ago I’m super excited!! Wish there was some more videos on them- Everything I’ve read about them is absolutely superb. Pulled that trigger right away as soon as they were back in stock
I have the e lines and the triggers, they are very close but I’m leaning towards the triggers for my go to pad, little less bulky and a little more comfortable when standing but they are extremely similar.
Right on JR. We definitely like both as well, and the Triggers do hug the leg a little bit better you're right. Can't go wrong with either of those options.
@@Error-hc7mp ya either would be enough for me at a bike park. Or any shuttle day, they provide all the protection I am looking for even on the gnarliest stuff.
Great video, thanks. I'm a Fox used so I'm trying to decide between Launch D3O and Launch Pro D3O (not in this video). I can see that the Launch is more pedal friendly than the Pro, but I'm concerned about Lauch durability in case of a crash. The Pro have those plastic shells, but may be not so pedal friendly. I'm a trail rider, not enduro, trying to improve, so in some cases, crashes comes. I my last crash my left knee (in wich a had a surgery six months ago) was injured by a small rock, since my current knee pads didn't made the job, so I'm looking for something really protective, without sacrify pedaling. What about durability from Launch model in ocasional crashes? How it works for a 8 to 10 miles trail alternating pedaling and downhilling?
Good reviews!. I actually love the POC VPD 2.0 , not the VPD system which sucks. I also use 100% Trailcamps as a light weight XC/ trail pad, which have been great. I agree with the hard cap knee pad assessment on gnarly terrain. Good job on the G form collaboration, I thought the original ones were terrible in the protection dept. but the E Lines look solid! Sam Hill are awesome too.
Wish I’d seen sooner just bought fox (not the enduro model ) and the flat stitch is in the inside of the knee and after an hour it rubs you raw guess I need to use a knee sleeve other than that nice protection
I've been so frustrated lately, trying to build my confidence by hitting new features and just getting broken off every time. Im going to go full send: full face, neck brace, shoulder and chest armor, elbow guards, camelback for back protection, knee pads, padded chamois shorts, ankle guards, wrist guards and anything else I can find
Good luck! Just remember there is a point where too much armor and bulk can actually start to be a detriment if you're so stiff, hot and thinking about the heat/discomfort of all the pads. Obviously you need to do what's best for you, but before you dress up like the michelin man, remember you need to be both comfortable, free to move dynamically, AND protected. Good luck!
I have the ION K-pact knee pads(1 step up from K-traze). More comparable to the Fox d30's. They have zippers on the side that are awesome due to the fact you can remove them without taking your shoes off. Not too hot for a full day session and hold up well to punishment.
forget the IXS Trigger Knee Pad. I have these and they slide down the knee. I'm riding in the swiss alps and if you even go down a medium steep downhill they will slide..
Leatt are great. Had few crushes at rocky enduro trails with them and nothing happened to my knees. To tight at the beggining but after a while not noticable. Unofrtunately alfter some time of using foam pads are collecting swet and smells so you have to wash them after each run and still in the middle of next day it starts smell/
Thanks for the reviews on all the pads! Greatly appreciate the work. Ive had IXS (can't remember the model , but enduro ish) and ION k pac non zips in the last 5 years. I just picked up a pair of g form e lines as per your suggestion. I honestly can't say anything positive about them, which is a bummer. They don't offer the protection and are much less comfortable than either of the other pads unfortunately. I wore them for 5.5 miles and the last mile wore raw spots around the zippers on both legs. Kinks, scratchy and just uncomfortable. Reliability alone is a deal breaker. I think it's a decent idea, but they really lack quality, protection and comfort. ION and IXS are noticeably better quality products, even after a few years of abuse. Maybe I got what I paid for I dunno lol! Thanks again for the testing though.
Hey thank you so much Jay for the feedback and we're super bummed to hear about your issues. We hate knowing people spent money on products we suggest and didn't work out...Unfortunately these things do have a lot of variable like personal preference, body shape/thickness etc. Is there a chance the pads weren't sized quite right and could have caused the irritation? Either way, we're sorry to hear it didn't work out but appreciate you reaching out. Drew
@@TheLoamWolf all good Drew 🤙🏻. The sizing was good. One zipper failed out of the box lol! I've got a return started and re ordered another pair of K pact's. They're super comfy out of the box, offer better protection and deal with a lot. I've even used them for ground work for hours lol! Lots of washings too. They still stink haha! I finally broke the padding after 3 years. Thanks again man! 🤙🏻😁
as an older guy that enjoys the riding I am about to get into doing some drops and jumps. it will obviously take longer to heal at my age, Looking for comfort and protection I have large legs. Any recommendation. Thanks in advance. Yur presentation was great and i learned a lot but i am still a little bit confused.
I bought the gform e lines you like but they were just too bulky for me. When I would straighten my leg I'd get that gap in between knee cap and pad and it just felt like they stuck out so far. Maybe they'd get better with use. I think I want to try the Sevens or Endura
Great videos! So does the Fox Enduro 3DO replace the Fox Enduro Pro that had their proprietary F3 armor? Your original review last year was for the Pro version. Any difference or improvement between the Pro and 3DOs? Looks like all their different lines now show a Pro and 3DO option. I wonder if they are going to dump F3 armor for 3DO.
So you think the fox launch d30’s will be good for longer rides. Looking for pads that feel good when pedalling but want the reassurance when I get to a rocky section that my knees are protected well.
Any solid recommendations for knee/shin guard that is still comfortable climbing in? Mostly used for park days but still have to climb back up and don’t want to feel restricted.
I find it interesting the 7idp transition pads have a higher CE rating than most of their more expensive offerings, more protection for less seems off to me hah
I mountain unicycle and I’m looking to upgrade my gear. What kind of knee pads would you recommend for primarily rocky terrain? I’m not exactly sure what size I am either. I’m 6”3’ and very skinny. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
I wish I could find knee pads that fir comfortably. My lower legs are large, but my thighs are enormous. I have a set of 7idp pads that are XL, but still roll down at the top. I couldn’t find g-form or kali sleeve styles that I could get on. I have a set of it’s pads that are xl that are small and bunch behind the knee (I tried a set on in the store and they were great, I bought a set and they were small). Maybe the Goodman e lines would work, especially for arkansas summers 🥵
Well, that's a tough one as different body shapes, sweat levels and leg hair could affect this. Also we've found that riding pants pull pads down more than shorts too! the Ion's stay tight as do the Fox pads thanks to the double straps, the Kali's large silicone gripper also helps a lot. Ensuring you've got the snuggest possible size that doesn't cut off circulation is also important. Good pads typically fit well and stay put. Good luck!
They aren't on here, but I would check out the Tld Stage knee pads. Next level of protection up from the speed they reviewed here. I don't have to adjust them ever.
@@ZippidyMTB Bummer. Have you tried on the next size down? You may see if you can borrow some from a buddy or see if a local shop has any you can rent/use.
Got the E-Lines cause of your previous video. Been riding with them for about 3-4 months here in SoCal, and they are awesome. Slid out on the bike a few times, and they did the job perfectly. Like you said, they are big. But they’re super comfy and doesn’t bother me on long climbs!
What size did you guys test out of the Endura MT 500 hard shells? Was it the S/M size because that's all Competitive Cycling has in stock. When I got to Endura's website their size guide is way different than most knee pads. They say a S/M goes up 57cm thigh which is pretty thick! For instance the Fox D3O launch size L only goes up to 47cm for the thigh.
No mention of EN 1621 certification? I suppose that if I was professionally/financially involved with a product that did not attain certification, I wouldn't mention it either. And I might even find reason to trash competitive products that meet the highest level of certification.
The E-Lines would probably fit over pants as long as they're not ski pants. But we'd suggest wearing them under pants, which is what we do! less friction/folds that may cause blisters, and you will look cooler! Pads on the outside is a major fashion no-no. haha.
We personally can't get into them. They feel very unrefined and like square bricks of foam with hard edges that dug into our shins... Many people love them, and we're glad they do 'cuz they're not cheap. For our testers, no go.
thanks so much for the discount code almost dropped 70$ more than i had to
Awesome to hear it!!
Y’all should do a video over different types of helmets. Expensive helmets compared to cheaper ones. Love the channel
The full face pedal friendly review was on from October 23. I'm waiting for a trail helmet review.
best knee pads comparison ever, please for the elbow pads also
For sure, do elbows as well 💪
Plus 3 on that!
One thing I think it's very valuable to talk about when discussing any sort of clothing type product is materials and stitching. My last pair of G Forms had some serious stitch failure after not too long and seemed much less well made than the pair I had gotten before. I'm definitely looking at trying another brand and am going to be looking for something that looks like it's well made.
Great comparison, as good as the one on FF helmets. Obviously missing some interesting products like Leatt and RaceFace, but it’s pretty impossible to have all of them. I bought myself several of these to test them out on me: G-Form E-line, Endura MT500 HS, 7iDP Sam Hill, iXS Carve Race and POC Oseus VPD. The last 2 are not in the video, but are similar. Three things to myself: I’ve been riding Allmountain in the past 3 years, doing it a little bit harder lately. The second is I’ve been extremely happy with my iXS Flow Evo knee guards, but after all these years the upper part is falling a bit. And the third one is I’ve switched to flat pedals in the last months. My comments on the mentioned knee guards are:
- POC VPD: awesome quality feel (starting with the packaging) and feel, very minimalistic, but still some side protection (which the iXS Flow miss). Very confortable as well, but the cons were: the side protection is rather quite low, not precisely on the knee itself (where I had some crashes), it lacks velcro strap (so I’m afraid it occurs the same as with my iXS Flow that end up falling a bit after some years), it lacks hard shell (which I turned to be convinced from the video to be a good thing) and with 140€ it is by far the most expensive (being quite similar to the budget friendly iXS Flow).
- 7iDP: by far the cheapest one, very confortable as well and good protection but weird for me (I would have preferred to have a wider EVA protection on the knee itself), good long protection for flats but aesthetically way too long up and down. It lacks as well hard shell and velcro strap (although I saw no review complaining about dropping with time). It was as well surprisingly hot for how simple and breathable it looks. It was also noisy when moving the knee like pedaling.
- G-Form E-Line: indeed very confortable and practical to be able to put on and off without having to take off your shoes (not so much in my case though), lovely hard shell, but by for the bulkiest (way too much for me), not only in the front, especially when standing up, but also on the sides (since there’s no tension behind pulling it back). Whereas it is probably the most protective of all 5, I found some critical spaces between the different pads, being able to touch directly the bones than with other pads. I found them also quite hot although the empty back provides some freshness.
- Endura MT500 HS and iXS Carve Race: both my favorite ones and I had my doubts about the final decision since they are VERY similar. They both are very protective but not as bulky as the G-Forms, they have hard shell, both have velcro straps up and down and have a very similar length. The final decision was though based on little details: for the Endura I preferred the HS over the iXS’ (although having some holes is probably more breathable) and liked it having also silicon on the lower part. I found the side foam protection a bit thicker as well. And the velcro straps had some plastic ends which are extremely helpful for opening, but also much more prone to get caught with shorts. For the iXS it looked like it stood better in place after moving around and sitting, it had some thick protection above knee (which I never missed with my iXS Flows though), a thicker pad (which may be completely unscientific but provides more confidence), a bit wider pad which covered the inner knee bone a bit better and although thinner side protection, when touching with the fingers it looked all in all a bit better protected. The pad was also removable, which is absolutely no must, but another advantage. With a lucky offer when ordering they were also 6€ cheaper. So in the end, I went for the iXS as you may imagine, but it is very personal the decision, so I hope with this feedback someone can find something else as well.
Thanks for the hugely detailed comment and appreciate the feedback
I really like the TLD Stage pads. Never have to adjust them. I have some poc and RaceFace that don't get used anymore due to comfort and slipping issues. Thanks for showing how they all look, fit, and bend on someone's legs.
I hope the cooperation with Competitive Cyclist continues with other reviews like helmets, googles, etc. The lone wolf for the win !!!
Thank you. We'll add them to the list.
What a coincidence I actually need some knee pads
Well how about that!
Same man
#metoo
Same dude. My knee can only bash so many rocks.
I have had my set of tld Speed sleeve for probably 5 years now I have crashed in them ..... a lot! In uk woodland and rocky trails and they have been great and as for fit, once there on you forget you are wearing pands. One last plus is as you can imagine over this length of time they have been through the washer quite a bit and are still going strong 👍🏻
knee surgery 2016. elbow surgery 2020. g form e line will be the choice for the 21' season
I'm always taking diggers. Falling off the mountain once every ride. About to come out dressed like robo cop
Great review. I will never go back to pull-on/Pull-over knee pads after owning a pair of Race Face Ambush Knee Pads. The feature of being able to put on or take off without taking off your shoes is priceless for me.
IXS Carve pads are so comfortable. Way more protection than those light “trail pads” but I wear mine every ride and don’t notice them at all. My dad and buddy both bought a pair after me and love them as well
Doesn't get more comprehensive than that! Ended up going with the Elines... LOVE THEM!
Thanks for this 🙏🏽
Oh great, yet another MTB UA-cam channel I have to follow lmao. You make by far the best content on gear though. I was a BMX rider for a number of years. In that time I wouldn't wear any gear. Started wearing a helmet at the skatepark a couple years back. Plus would occasionally throw on some G Form shin pads under my jeans when trying to learn something new (slipping a pedal is annoyingly common in BMX lol.) But now that I'm getting a little bit older, my body just isn't able to take the same hits that it used to. Paying more attention to proper safety gear for riding the mountains.
I do have to admit, I am being drawn to Fox knee pads to match the logo on my helmet as stupid as that sounds haha. But luckily, they make some great helmets and knee pads (where they are lacking in some other categories.)
I got the triggers. Haven’t used them much but are well built
Mee too i got em delivred yesterday.
The G-Form E-Lines are the best knee pads I've ever had!! Smashed my knees into the ground a few times and the pads didnt move or slide and provided protection preventing my knee from getting all messed up.
glad to hear that. ive had multiple elbow and knee pads from g form. the shin knee combo stacked with the x2 pads for the knees. they always rotated on impact
I am rocking the 7iDP's and love em. I typically ride my local spot which is Greer Ranch in So Cal.
Solid. nice to hear you enjoy them too.
im considering those pads but im curious if they slide from the knee? Few years ago i had alpinestars paragon(sleeve style) and they started to slide after few rides.
@@todorvassilev8592 so far mine don’t slide at all. I have been in my 7iDP flex pads for about 4months and ride about 2-3 times per week. They have a silicone band inside that helps them stick to your skin. Hope that helps
Good job on this review, I thought you would include the Raceface pads. These are easiest to use and most comfortable. Plus you don't have to take your shoes off to put them on. That's a win right there. On IXS, I wanted them to work but if you are a bigger guy, they WON'T FIT. I tried the XL and couldn't get them over my calf. Enter in Raceface...
10.37 yea common sense for sure, makes sense, I have sliding caps on my Poc Joint VPD 2.0 long knee pads, I have a review on my website. I have two pairs, so I wash one and let it try and use the other. great coverage.
Great reviews, currently looking at 2 pairs in this to buy. And I think you have convinced me as to which I should try
probably the best kneepad review ever!
Awesome thank you so much!
I'm about to purchase my very first pair of knee pads and with so many options out there, this thorough review was super helpful. Thank you.
excellent test and explanation guys,cheers.
This video is an encyclopedia about knee pads, just got a Leatt AirFlex Pro and thanks to this video I think that I made the right choice for me!
Thank you so much! We’re glad to hear the feedback and hope you love them.
would like to see a knee/shin review.
I bought the pocs as my first knee pad doing enduro tracks and I do 4hr rides in them. I agree they are uncomfortable when standing but never notice it on the bike. I think they are also lacking side protection, had one fall in the rocks and cut the outside of my lower knee.
Thanks for the input!
I just bought the POC Lite and their VPD 2.0 knee pads. Havent used them yet though. But they seem better designed than the POC Joint reviewed here.
You get a chance to use your System Lites, yet? I was looking at these as a more robust option than general trail pads.
I was literally looking at knee pads yesterday! How convenient
Same here. Going faster now so my lightweight pads have to go.
Awesome! Hope it brought some good insight to your decision making process.
@@skullsroad3642 Nice! confidence in your protective equipment helps you go even faster too!
This is really cool! Been looking for a video like this for ages. Thankyou!!
Right on thanks for watching and hope it helped.
I've crashed using a slip-on style knee pad. It shifted down and I had a deep cut on my knee. I'll not use slip-on models anymore. That Endura MT500 meets my needs and there are discounts out there. Thanks for the informative video!
Thank you for sharing and appreciate the insight. Hope you like your next pads and they save your knees.
@@TheLoamWolf The Endura MT500 is impossible to find here in my region. The Fox Enduro D3o is available. Do you think that the Fox Enduro will stay in place in an event of a crash?
Great Video those E_Lines look like the ticket
Leatt Dual Axis are the best I've used
Really good video. Newbie to MTB world. Got a lot of bike under me and ran out of talent last night without pads … ouch 😆😂 Helped me pick a set out Thank you from the UK ✌️
Perfect. Need knee pads time to learn which to buy
Damn! I ride on the aggressive side of eMTB and now searching for new pads to replace my IXS Flow Evo pads, which I have ridden for like 4 years. You had me convinced with the 7 SamHill pads!!!... until you said they were hot. Bummer. Now back to not knowing what the hell to choose. All the other ones are too "light" and with more cons than pros. Thanks for the review!!!
Late to the party, but enjoyed the review. Great job! I'm a 7iDP fan, and have been using the Sam Hill Lite version, as have 2 other family members. Recently purchased their "Transition knee/shin" pad and it is fantastic. I also just purchased their flex shorts, after a recent off bike experience that left me with a small bit of hip rash.
Great review! You covered details that I hadn't even thought of.
Glad it was helpful!
yo I actually needed some of these great vid thanks
Thank you!
why didnt you guys review the POC VPD 2.0? Instead of the cheaper version?
11:12 I've crash tested the Leatt Airflex Pro, don't use them for gnarly riding, only for XC riding or flow trails, no falling off 1m rock rollers, and smashing knee into rocks. I was in agony but managed to get home, but I got huge swelling, and could not bend my legs enough to walk normally for 3 days, but it took at least over a week before I was good enough to ride, but I am good now. But I got the new Pearl Izumi Elevate knee and elbow pads. they have a 1cm thick D3O pad, they are removable too, the pads are easy to put on, when the knee is straight the D3O pad gets lifted off the leg which adds more air flow, the D3O pad has many vents. the sleeves at the thigh is long, if you pull it up high enough the pads fit securely.
You should definitely check out these pads, I've only had few rides on them, but I don't get soaked in sweat, no get rashes, even when riding in temps close to 30C, still warm, but not overheating. and I actually notice the breeze trough the vents. but with Poc VPD2.0 DH pads I would get soaked in sweat and get rashes at the leg.
Very helpful. Thanks so much!
Best pad review on the Tube Loam.... Awesome work...
Thank you very much!!
What you said about the POCs is spot on. The curve is digging in to ur shin and is really painful. I got the VPD airs instead which are much better than the Systems. I have friends who ride the systems which says that they are good after they warm up. If I cant even stand up with them on without pain they will never warm up. Avoid.
I have both as well - VPD Air and just got the Systems in December. The Air pads are just too small and low on the thigh. I did noticed the shin pain with the Systems right out of the box, but they get much better with time. Now, I’d say the System is more comfy but I wouldn’t put them in the downhill class.
Fox enduro d30 are not for anything enduro, I got proper cut up wearing these 😂
yea same!
Good video. My problem is finding pads that fit. I have a larger measurement of 25in above the knee and 21in below.
Wow, thanks a lot for this deep dive analysis!
Damn, was hoping for a SixSixOne review, need that mid 2000's style.
It's interesting everybody is just built different, I tried the G form, and they were the least comfortable pads, couldn't get a size that fit right either too loose and wouldn't stay in place or way too tight. But for me the POC's are super comfortable whether climbing in the mountains or summer rides if Florida, and the protection is top-notch. I think if there is one thing people should take from any type of review like this is you have to try things on and see what works for you.
Very true words!! Thanks for sharing and we definitely agree, especially with safety products.
POC VPD 2.0 is best pad I ever used. I ride BMX in big bowls. They stay put, are super comfortable, and WOW they can take a hit. HIGHLY recommend. I don't think POC was represented well by those slip on models. Definitely not their top pad in protection, just a different avenue for people that hate straps.
Looks like the zipper was a pain to zip up on the e line look like some great pads, I like the zipper and not having to take your shoes off.
Why is competetive cyclist only available in america.
Why are bikes from Calibre, Kelly's, KTM, Moustache and Whyte only available in Europe?
I'm really picky with bike stuff, but the ixs is pretty much perfect.
Some of those lighter ones make me wonder if I’d be better off to, and get more protection from, just sticking some adhesive back EVA foam sheet to some leggings
I’ve got the fox enduro d30 pads. They are lightweight and comfortable but not durable. Ive torn the sleeve in multiple spots just from putting them on/taking them off
Thanks for the feedback Kirby. Appreciate it.
I´ve got the ION K Pact Zip and really like them, pretty breathable and seem to hold up to anything
Chromag Rift knee pads have been super impressive.
Comfy / Protective / Stays put / Pedals well
We haven't tried those out but we'll see if we can get a pair to try.
Ordered some Chromag Rift pads a few days ago I’m super excited!! Wish there was some more videos on them- Everything I’ve read about them is absolutely superb. Pulled that trigger right away as soon as they were back in stock
I have the e lines and the triggers, they are very close but I’m leaning towards the triggers for my go to pad, little less bulky and a little more comfortable when standing but they are extremely similar.
Right on JR. We definitely like both as well, and the Triggers do hug the leg a little bit better you're right. Can't go wrong with either of those options.
@@Error-hc7mp ya either would be enough for me at a bike park. Or any shuttle day, they provide all the protection I am looking for even on the gnarliest stuff.
Great video, thanks. I'm a Fox used so I'm trying to decide between Launch D3O and Launch Pro D3O (not in this video). I can see that the Launch is more pedal friendly than the Pro, but I'm concerned about Lauch durability in case of a crash. The Pro have those plastic shells, but may be not so pedal friendly. I'm a trail rider, not enduro, trying to improve, so in some cases, crashes comes. I my last crash my left knee (in wich a had a surgery six months ago) was injured by a small rock, since my current knee pads didn't made the job, so I'm looking for something really protective, without sacrify pedaling. What about durability from Launch model in ocasional crashes? How it works for a 8 to 10 miles trail alternating pedaling and downhilling?
The launch pads are terrible for pedaling in and irritate the hell out of your legs. Really only good for park in my opinion.
I like Scott’s pads , maybe next vid check thos out
Good reviews!. I actually love the POC VPD 2.0 , not the VPD system which sucks. I also use 100% Trailcamps as a light weight XC/ trail pad, which have been great. I agree with the hard cap knee pad assessment on gnarly terrain. Good job on the G form collaboration, I thought the original ones were terrible in the protection dept. but the E Lines look solid! Sam Hill are awesome too.
I love my Liatt knee/shin pads.
Wish I’d seen sooner just bought fox (not the enduro model ) and the flat stitch is in the inside of the knee and after an hour it rubs you raw guess I need to use a knee sleeve other than that nice protection
I've been so frustrated lately, trying to build my confidence by hitting new features and just getting broken off every time. Im going to go full send: full face, neck brace, shoulder and chest armor, elbow guards, camelback for back protection, knee pads, padded chamois shorts, ankle guards, wrist guards and anything else I can find
Good luck! Just remember there is a point where too much armor and bulk can actually start to be a detriment if you're so stiff, hot and thinking about the heat/discomfort of all the pads. Obviously you need to do what's best for you, but before you dress up like the michelin man, remember you need to be both comfortable, free to move dynamically, AND protected. Good luck!
I have the ION K-pact knee pads(1 step up from K-traze). More comparable to the Fox d30's. They have zippers on the side that are awesome due to the fact you can remove them without taking your shoes off. Not too hot for a full day session and hold up well to punishment.
Oh nice. We haven't checked out that model yet.
Great review but I wish you had some Raceface Roam and Ambush in there. That's where I'm leaning and would love to hear how they stack up
Love the Indy pads actually! A lot.
forget the IXS Trigger Knee Pad. I have these and they slide down the knee. I'm riding in the swiss alps and if you even go down a medium steep downhill they will slide..
thanks, great review
Been looking for a good test since weeks, the mtb gods apparently listen to me 😍
Ask and ye shall receive.
One thing that always got me about this channel...
Which one of you is the Loam Wolf?
We all are. We’re like that band, The Lone Rangers.
Leatt are great. Had few crushes at rocky enduro trails with them and nothing happened to my knees. To tight at the beggining but after a while not noticable. Unofrtunately alfter some time of using foam pads are collecting swet and smells so you have to wash them after each run and still in the middle of next day it starts smell/
Thanks for the reviews on all the pads! Greatly appreciate the work. Ive had IXS (can't remember the model , but enduro ish) and ION k pac non zips in the last 5 years. I just picked up a pair of g form e lines as per your suggestion. I honestly can't say anything positive about them, which is a bummer. They don't offer the protection and are much less comfortable than either of the other pads unfortunately. I wore them for 5.5 miles and the last mile wore raw spots around the zippers on both legs. Kinks, scratchy and just uncomfortable. Reliability alone is a deal breaker. I think it's a decent idea, but they really lack quality, protection and comfort. ION and IXS are noticeably better quality products, even after a few years of abuse. Maybe I got what I paid for I dunno lol! Thanks again for the testing though.
Hey thank you so much Jay for the feedback and we're super bummed to hear about your issues. We hate knowing people spent money on products we suggest and didn't work out...Unfortunately these things do have a lot of variable like personal preference, body shape/thickness etc. Is there a chance the pads weren't sized quite right and could have caused the irritation? Either way, we're sorry to hear it didn't work out but appreciate you reaching out.
Drew
@@TheLoamWolf all good Drew 🤙🏻. The sizing was good. One zipper failed out of the box lol! I've got a return started and re ordered another pair of K pact's. They're super comfy out of the box, offer better protection and deal with a lot. I've even used them for ground work for hours lol! Lots of washings too. They still stink haha! I finally broke the padding after 3 years. Thanks again man! 🤙🏻😁
as an older guy that enjoys the riding I am about to get into doing some drops and jumps. it will obviously take longer to heal at my age, Looking for comfort and protection I have large legs. Any recommendation. Thanks in advance. Yur presentation was great and i learned a lot but i am still a little bit confused.
I bought the gform e lines you like but they were just too bulky for me. When I would straighten my leg I'd get that gap in between knee cap and pad and it just felt like they stuck out so far. Maybe they'd get better with use. I think I want to try the Sevens or Endura
Sweet review, very helpful.
Those legs tho...
Great videos! So does the Fox Enduro 3DO replace the Fox Enduro Pro that had their proprietary F3 armor? Your original review last year was for the Pro version. Any difference or improvement between the Pro and 3DOs? Looks like all their different lines now show a Pro and 3DO option. I wonder if they are going to dump F3 armor for 3DO.
So you think the fox launch d30’s will be good for longer rides. Looking for pads that feel good when pedalling but want the reassurance when I get to a rocky section that my knees are protected well.
Another good detailed video.👍
Thank you very much! Appreciate you watching.
Any solid recommendations for knee/shin guard that is still comfortable climbing in? Mostly used for park days but still have to climb back up and don’t want to feel restricted.
I am considdering buying the ennui pro shock sleeve. I skate and mtb will this work for the mtb or not
I find it interesting the 7idp transition pads have a higher CE rating than most of their more expensive offerings, more protection for less seems off to me hah
Right, quite strange indeed. All there pads are Level 2 and other brands all level 1
I mountain unicycle and I’m looking to upgrade my gear. What kind of knee pads would you recommend for primarily rocky terrain? I’m not exactly sure what size I am either. I’m 6”3’ and very skinny. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Which of the pads in the "most protection" bracket are best for pedaling?
Leatt 's motocross gear saved me, but I couldn't pull their MTB pad over my calf. Suggestions?
I wish I could find knee pads that fir comfortably. My lower legs are large, but my thighs are enormous. I have a set of 7idp pads that are XL, but still roll down at the top. I couldn’t find g-form or kali sleeve styles that I could get on. I have a set of it’s pads that are xl that are small and bunch behind the knee (I tried a set on in the store and they were great, I bought a set and they were small). Maybe the Goodman e lines would work, especially for arkansas summers 🥵
Top review 🤘🔥
Any thoughts on fit for skinny legs? As a woman I find so many are either too big or have to be cinched up so much they get bulky in parts.
Take the leatt ones
@@lukasbormann4830 thanks! I'll try them!
Which don't slip off the knee after 2 hours of ridding; my biggest complaint?
Well, that's a tough one as different body shapes, sweat levels and leg hair could affect this. Also we've found that riding pants pull pads down more than shorts too! the Ion's stay tight as do the Fox pads thanks to the double straps, the Kali's large silicone gripper also helps a lot. Ensuring you've got the snuggest possible size that doesn't cut off circulation is also important. Good pads typically fit well and stay put. Good luck!
They aren't on here, but I would check out the Tld Stage knee pads. Next level of protection up from the speed they reviewed here. I don't have to adjust them ever.
I have the TLD's, can't get them to not slip. The G-Form are a little better but sizing is either too small or big.
@@ZippidyMTB Bummer. Have you tried on the next size down? You may see if you can borrow some from a buddy or see if a local shop has any you can rent/use.
So helpful
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
Got the E-Lines cause of your previous video. Been riding with them for about 3-4 months here in SoCal, and they are awesome. Slid out on the bike a few times, and they did the job perfectly. Like you said, they are big. But they’re super comfy and doesn’t bother me on long climbs!
Great to hear!
Yo guys! Have you had the chance to try the 100% ones?(teratec/teratec+/surpass) would love to hear your feedback on them!
What size did you guys test out of the Endura MT 500 hard shells? Was it the S/M size because that's all Competitive Cycling has in stock. When I got to Endura's website their size guide is way different than most knee pads. They say a S/M goes up 57cm thigh which is pretty thick! For instance the Fox D3O launch size L only goes up to 47cm for the thigh.
i think thats normal w endura i got endura pants size m and they are tooo big for me but my size m fox jacket is pretty thight
Too bad the new Raceface aren’t in the test they seem to check all the boxes
We really liked the RF Indy pads. A lot.
Very good review but drop tye background music next time.
Why nothing on the Demon line!?!
No Dakine ?
Where is POC OSEUS VPD KNEE
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Anyone have any experience with sixsixone pads?
No mention of EN 1621 certification? I suppose that if I was professionally/financially involved with a product that did not attain certification, I wouldn't mention it either. And I might even find reason to trash competitive products that meet the highest level of certification.
It would have been definitely interesting to know about certification.
are the g form able to fit over pants for us in new england it gets chilly out here? and should i size up or got with something else all together
the E-lines sorry
The E-Lines would probably fit over pants as long as they're not ski pants. But we'd suggest wearing them under pants, which is what we do! less friction/folds that may cause blisters, and you will look cooler! Pads on the outside is a major fashion no-no. haha.
@@TheLoamWolf awesome and i agree on the fashion lol thanks for the reply great work here keep it up
What about the poc vpd air pads? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
We personally can't get into them. They feel very unrefined and like square bricks of foam with hard edges that dug into our shins... Many people love them, and we're glad they do 'cuz they're not cheap. For our testers, no go.
I have poc vpd air pads. The stiff foam edges gave my knee skin blisters after 2 hours riding. Never use it again ever since.