Rarely go to concerts myself but noticed that the few I do go to request that audiences be present in the moment. I noticed lots of people put their phones away, so I guess it's partially about respect. It has become part of our culture to capture precious moments all the time, but you go to these things for the experience and should actually BE THERE for it
@@ashligeran5039 I mean it’s not impossible for some people to have that reasoning, BUT I highly doubt most people think like that. I’ve been on stage a couple times and let me tell you does it make you feel separated from the audience when you can’t interact cuz they all got their phones out. It’s genuinely kinda disrespectful in some cases. If you’re in the back fine go ahead a film, but if you’re in the front rows. Pls don’t. It can make the experience worse for the people behind you. Seeing a wall of blue screens isn’t what people paid for. Audiences that have less phones are often more interactive and responsive, at least from my experience, might be different in different genres and situations, but less phones just makes for a better experience. In my ofc biased opinion (Edit: spelling)
I don't care how expensive the phone is, it's not getting good quality video during a live performance. people should just share clips from the performer and tell people it's even better in person.
i got mixed feeling about this. on one hand, i see how musician feel disconnected. But on the other hand, it could be a way to promote their show. So, personally i would only take a few photo in an intimate concert, but will record a few videos on a big concert
@@ashligeran5039 they can intercept monetization of their content whether or not it's UA-cam. It's an automatic $75,000 IP award in court if you're caught doing it.
Went to a concert awhile ago and it was infuriating that to see the band I had to look past a few dozen tiny glowing screens. Its extremely inconsiderate of everyone behind you.
Honestly I do film a bit at concerts, but never the whole way through. I tend to forget loads of things, always have. These videos I took take me back and make me smile again. I also never look at the screen while I’m filming, I look at the artist(s) and if I’m jumping then I’m jumping lol
This. I have memory issues because of an autoimmune illness. Being able to have pictures and videos allows me to look back and enjoy the moment because I won't be able to recall it otherwise.
For those of you who don’t know it’s illegal to film Broadway shows in the assumption you would distribute it it’s also just bad etiquette anywhere except a rock/pop concert
One of my favorite memory's is when my (at the time, now ex) boyfriends dad got kicked out of a Gabriel Iglesias show. He was drunk and annoying and had been yelling things after every joke. They warned the audience MULTIPLE times "Do NOT film". Of course as soon as it starts he says out loud in a drunken drawl "I'm gonna film" and couldn't have been more obvious with his phone. Only lasted about 5 minutes before someone came over and told him to get out. My boyfriend and I got to enjoy the rest of the show in peace. Ahole was suprised and complained about how they "singled him out" the next day.🙄
It's interesting how this varies as well, in regards to art. Whenever I played gigs, we would love it if people recorded us. If I go to a concert, I've never been asked to not record the band. Everyone has phones out. I saw Gianmarco recently, compete opposite. Someone else pointed out you can't record a movie at the theaters. Musical theater is another example.
To be fair. He's not a family member or something; meaning it's not a personal video. He's definitely gonna share, or edit the footage in a way you can't control. Could you imagine not having the copyright to your own image cause someone ELSE took a video/photo of you. Plus You can't film a movie or stage play, why is comedy any different?
@@waterierStone it’s absolutely still illegal to take someone’s phone. You’re more likely to get charged with taking someone’s phone than you are taking footage of a show.
Reminds me of Morgan freeman's character in now you see me pulling out a second recorder when the usher takes his first to try and figure out the magicians😂😂
I remember this video of a girl who was called on stage by an idol and it was so sweet, he was singing while they both sat opposite to each other but instead of living in the moment she shoved a phone in his face and started recording...I cringed.
I can understand wanting to take pictures or something during a show, but at the end of the day, you're there in the moment. Also, obviously not a performer myself, but I've had moments in college when these guys were chatting in the background, while I was giving a pretty important oral presentation, and in my rare moment of sassy-Bness I just stopped, crossed my arms and waited until they got quiet and asked "are you done?" Bitchy, but it works every time
It takes so little to not be intrusive with it if it's a personal recording keepsake thing. Like buy the merch after too but if you want the recording where you're at just slide that shit in your front pocket and leave it. If it doesn't catch everything then that's that.
Just went to see Iggy Pop. Our first time out in 3 years. Traveled by train to a different state to see it. I thought, "I'm gonna be on the younger side of the audience". Didn't matter, the older folks were pulling out the phones on the floor. I was so disappointed. Luckily none of it really blocked my view, but the disrespect for Iggy Pop... People really need to enjoy the moment. You can get a picture and hear them online plenty now too.
I hate being in an audience behind people with their phones held up in the air. It’s super rude for multiple reasons. A quick picture if it’s allowed is one thing, but videoing often obstructs my view that I’ve paid for.
I mean if you are on stage you kinda are a dolphin in Sea world already, except is more ethical to enjoy your entertainment since there's no captivity (that we know of)
Unless I am taking a picture/video with a specific person in mind that I want to show it to, I seriously do not understand needing to capture every moment of ever cool event in your life, I enjoy thinfbs so much more when I just enjoy them and am not trying to capture the moment for later. Cause unless you know a specific time you're going to look back on that video, for example you know someone who would enjoy it even more than you but you can't be there, you're likely never ever ever going to look at it ever again, especially if it's a long video. All that in mind, it still doesn't make sense to me to film a comedy set cause that's just disrespectful, plain and simple.
I do record at concerts sometimes because I have memory issues and it makes me sad that I could have the best night of my life and two days later won't be able to remember any of it. Never during theater shows though, and I always check that taking pictures and short videos is okay first.
IF it's allowed and you're not being a jerk about it, why not? Maybe YOU won't look at again but that doesn't mean everyone is like you. People enjoy sharing and saving some of the coolest moments of their life. Now we have smartphones that make it easier but in the past people wrote and painted the same way (if they had the memory and skill. Now it's more accessible.) No you won't be there again but you'll remember it more clearly seeing and hearing it again. I wish I had taken so much more videos and pictures in my life. So much stuff barely captured or not at all, so much forgotten mostly or completely... I would look at it, I look at what I did get and I'm glad of it. (And I look at the videos and pictures taken by the people who I follow on sm when they do something cool! I don't have to "enjoy it more than them" lol wut) And just because you don't feel like you were really enjoying what you were doing because you were filming doesn't mean other people can't both enjoy AND get something in frame. Honestly I'm all for this guy snatching the phone, it's Broadway and no one should be trying that crap. But all these granola 'just be in the moment, maaaan' people. It's ridiculous.
I like that Kathy Griffin would take a minute in the beginning of her shows to pose and let people take pictures and video of her. It also made sure, that no one had a good excuse for snapping pics later in the show. So it was smart.
My rule with anything is if you present something to me, in an annoying manner. I'm gonna grab it and try to get it away. It could be a phone, or a business card, or just a stick. I don't care, if you're going to do something annoying to me with something. And the only option I'm given is to throw it away, then I'm going to do it.
I am a student musician, 19 years old, in a music (essentially) high-school (I’m in Sweden, so the school systems are different). For reference, I’ve played for a crowd of about 300 people max when it was mostly parents, and around 30 strangers, but those parents of other kids where complete strangers to me. On both occasions people have taken out their phones and filmed me, and others, without asking. I’ve never taken offense at that, and honestly I don’t think you should. As a performer on a stage, you are meant for to be scene (pun intended) and people have most likely payed to be there. Whats the difference to you as a performer between them seeing you live, and them filming you to see that same performance at a later date? It’s the same performance, and it’s their right to decide if they want to enjoy the moment fully, or try to preserve it. Me personally, I like to do a bit of both. Like, if I go to a 2 hour concert I won’t stand there for the whole thing filming, but I might film some of the better parts, or maybe take a picture of the place. I agree that filming makes it a worse experience in the moment, but it’s not by much, and I more often than not regret not having filmed, than having filmed.
It'll illegal to film Broadway shows. They're not taking a video to "enjoy it later" they're doing it to post it, possibly hurting the show's ticket sales and def encouraging others who go to the show to film. "So what if it's just a short video?" you might say. But who's going to time how long someone is filming for? And with a popular Broadway show if filming was allowed all the performers would see is a sea of phones and people barely visible behind them. It's fine at a rock or pop concert, it's expected, but theatre performers are looking to connect with the audience, feel their engagement. Not check out where they got their phone case. So it's fine to you but you're not from the same culture this guy is from and you're not doing the same kind of performance he is.
ngl i’m grateful for bootlegs because broadway is not accessible. i’m not american and i probably will never go there, but i have a passion for musical theatre plus not a lot of shows do proshots either so bootlegs are the only way for me and many other international fans to see musicals. i know it sucks for the actors but there’s not much they can do about it either
When i was in 8th grade (pre-covid) i went to see Once On This Island where Lea Salonga was the Goddess of Love and she took this man who was filming on his phone and threw it right into the water. I thought she was so cool for that.
A recording has a potentially much larger audience, plus it can be seen again and again and dissected (or edited) in a way a purely live experience couldn't be. I think he's got a point
He said the guy was moving around trying to get the best angle, as if he wasn't a human being up there, performing and trying to connect with the audience.
It's all fun and games until you rip some deaf person's auto captioner out of their hand and get labeled an ableist who doesn't respect the deaf and hard of hearing.
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yall to clarify, they are talking about being in a THEATRE, not at a concert, which is a completely different situation.
Yeah no, filming bits of a concert is basically normal and expected now, filming theatrical shows is illegal 😭
Rarely go to concerts myself but noticed that the few I do go to request that audiences be present in the moment. I noticed lots of people put their phones away, so I guess it's partially about respect. It has become part of our culture to capture precious moments all the time, but you go to these things for the experience and should actually BE THERE for it
I actually think they just don’t want people being able to see their concerts unless they pay too it’s how they make money
@@ashligeran5039 I mean it’s not impossible for some people to have that reasoning, BUT I highly doubt most people think like that. I’ve been on stage a couple times and let me tell you does it make you feel separated from the audience when you can’t interact cuz they all got their phones out. It’s genuinely kinda disrespectful in some cases. If you’re in the back fine go ahead a film, but if you’re in the front rows. Pls don’t. It can make the experience worse for the people behind you. Seeing a wall of blue screens isn’t what people paid for.
Audiences that have less phones are often more interactive and responsive, at least from my experience, might be different in different genres and situations, but less phones just makes for a better experience.
In my ofc biased opinion
(Edit: spelling)
I don't care how expensive the phone is, it's not getting good quality video during a live performance. people should just share clips from the performer and tell people it's even better in person.
i got mixed feeling about this. on one hand, i see how musician feel disconnected. But on the other hand, it could be a way to promote their show. So, personally i would only take a few photo in an intimate concert, but will record a few videos on a big concert
@@ashligeran5039 they can intercept monetization of their content whether or not it's UA-cam. It's an automatic $75,000 IP award in court if you're caught doing it.
Can't imagine how annoying that kinda stuff must be mid set, so glad most audiences aren't fans of the filming shenanigans either.
Went to a concert awhile ago and it was infuriating that to see the band I had to look past a few dozen tiny glowing screens. Its extremely inconsiderate of everyone behind you.
Honestly I do film a bit at concerts, but never the whole way through. I tend to forget loads of things, always have. These videos I took take me back and make me smile again. I also never look at the screen while I’m filming, I look at the artist(s) and if I’m jumping then I’m jumping lol
Same, I have a really bad memory so I just take a couple photos and then I focus on enjoying the experience
My memory is trash. So trash that I forget to film anything. 😫
same!! i just hold my phone pretty low so it’s not obstructing my view when i’m recording
This. I have memory issues because of an autoimmune illness. Being able to have pictures and videos allows me to look back and enjoy the moment because I won't be able to recall it otherwise.
For those of you who don’t know it’s illegal to film Broadway shows in the assumption you would distribute it it’s also just bad etiquette anywhere except a rock/pop concert
One of my favorite memory's is when my (at the time, now ex) boyfriends dad got kicked out of a Gabriel Iglesias show. He was drunk and annoying and had been yelling things after every joke. They warned the audience MULTIPLE times "Do NOT film". Of course as soon as it starts he says out loud in a drunken drawl "I'm gonna film" and couldn't have been more obvious with his phone. Only lasted about 5 minutes before someone came over and told him to get out. My boyfriend and I got to enjoy the rest of the show in peace. Ahole was suprised and complained about how they "singled him out" the next day.🙄
It's interesting how this varies as well, in regards to art. Whenever I played gigs, we would love it if people recorded us. If I go to a concert, I've never been asked to not record the band. Everyone has phones out.
I saw Gianmarco recently, compete opposite. Someone else pointed out you can't record a movie at the theaters. Musical theater is another example.
Ah makes sense. Different art forms have different rules to abide by.
To be fair. He's not a family member or something; meaning it's not a personal video. He's definitely gonna share, or edit the footage in a way you can't control. Could you imagine not having the copyright to your own image cause someone ELSE took a video/photo of you.
Plus You can't film a movie or stage play, why is comedy any different?
He’s a broadway actor, it’s considered piracy to record a show in the USA. So it’s not just about controlling your image it’s also illegal.
@@Antkingjrx it’s also illegal to grab someone’s phone and throw it, so it’s a moot point.
@@ExternusArmy not if you give it back in a way that doesn't damage it. At worst you're going to small claims court and paying for a new screen.
@@waterierStone No. If there’s physical contact it can be considered assault
@@waterierStone it’s absolutely still illegal to take someone’s phone. You’re more likely to get charged with taking someone’s phone than you are taking footage of a show.
Reminds me of Morgan freeman's character in now you see me pulling out a second recorder when the usher takes his first to try and figure out the magicians😂😂
I was gonna say this 😂
Did anyone hear Gianmarco give the gay gasp when he said he took away the phone?
😂
*theater
I remember this video of a girl who was called on stage by an idol and it was so sweet, he was singing while they both sat opposite to each other but instead of living in the moment she shoved a phone in his face and started recording...I cringed.
He should have sang into the camera as he took it and then put it in his pocket until the end of his set.
Ngl he can do wtf he want for me 😅
I can understand wanting to take pictures or something during a show, but at the end of the day, you're there in the moment. Also, obviously not a performer myself, but I've had moments in college when these guys were chatting in the background, while I was giving a pretty important oral presentation, and in my rare moment of sassy-Bness I just stopped, crossed my arms and waited until they got quiet and asked "are you done?" Bitchy, but it works every time
It takes so little to not be intrusive with it if it's a personal recording keepsake thing. Like buy the merch after too but if you want the recording where you're at just slide that shit in your front pocket and leave it. If it doesn't catch everything then that's that.
I know that guy he was so good in tick-tock boom
Seems like it worked, I havent seen the clip of that yet
Just went to see Iggy Pop. Our first time out in 3 years. Traveled by train to a different state to see it. I thought, "I'm gonna be on the younger side of the audience". Didn't matter, the older folks were pulling out the phones on the floor. I was so disappointed. Luckily none of it really blocked my view, but the disrespect for Iggy Pop...
People really need to enjoy the moment. You can get a picture and hear them online plenty now too.
I hate being in an audience behind people with their phones held up in the air. It’s super rude for multiple reasons. A quick picture if it’s allowed is one thing, but videoing often obstructs my view that I’ve paid for.
I mean if you are on stage you kinda are a dolphin in Sea world already, except is more ethical to enjoy your entertainment since there's no captivity (that we know of)
Unless I am taking a picture/video with a specific person in mind that I want to show it to, I seriously do not understand needing to capture every moment of ever cool event in your life, I enjoy thinfbs so much more when I just enjoy them and am not trying to capture the moment for later. Cause unless you know a specific time you're going to look back on that video, for example you know someone who would enjoy it even more than you but you can't be there, you're likely never ever ever going to look at it ever again, especially if it's a long video. All that in mind, it still doesn't make sense to me to film a comedy set cause that's just disrespectful, plain and simple.
I do record at concerts sometimes because I have memory issues and it makes me sad that I could have the best night of my life and two days later won't be able to remember any of it. Never during theater shows though, and I always check that taking pictures and short videos is okay first.
IF it's allowed and you're not being a jerk about it, why not? Maybe YOU won't look at again but that doesn't mean everyone is like you. People enjoy sharing and saving some of the coolest moments of their life. Now we have smartphones that make it easier but in the past people wrote and painted the same way (if they had the memory and skill. Now it's more accessible.) No you won't be there again but you'll remember it more clearly seeing and hearing it again. I wish I had taken so much more videos and pictures in my life. So much stuff barely captured or not at all, so much forgotten mostly or completely... I would look at it, I look at what I did get and I'm glad of it. (And I look at the videos and pictures taken by the people who I follow on sm when they do something cool! I don't have to "enjoy it more than them" lol wut) And just because you don't feel like you were really enjoying what you were doing because you were filming doesn't mean other people can't both enjoy AND get something in frame. Honestly I'm all for this guy snatching the phone, it's Broadway and no one should be trying that crap. But all these granola 'just be in the moment, maaaan' people. It's ridiculous.
I like that Kathy Griffin would take a minute in the beginning of her shows to pose and let people take pictures and video of her. It also made sure, that no one had a good excuse for snapping pics later in the show. So it was smart.
As is often the case, Patti Lupone is correct
My rule with anything is if you present something to me, in an annoying manner. I'm gonna grab it and try to get it away. It could be a phone, or a business card, or just a stick. I don't care, if you're going to do something annoying to me with something. And the only option I'm given is to throw it away, then I'm going to do it.
I am a student musician, 19 years old, in a music (essentially) high-school (I’m in Sweden, so the school systems are different). For reference, I’ve played for a crowd of about 300 people max when it was mostly parents, and around 30 strangers, but those parents of other kids where complete strangers to me. On both occasions people have taken out their phones and filmed me, and others, without asking.
I’ve never taken offense at that, and honestly I don’t think you should. As a performer on a stage, you are meant for to be scene (pun intended) and people have most likely payed to be there. Whats the difference to you as a performer between them seeing you live, and them filming you to see that same performance at a later date?
It’s the same performance, and it’s their right to decide if they want to enjoy the moment fully, or try to preserve it.
Me personally, I like to do a bit of both. Like, if I go to a 2 hour concert I won’t stand there for the whole thing filming, but I might film some of the better parts, or maybe take a picture of the place. I agree that filming makes it a worse experience in the moment, but it’s not by much, and I more often than not regret not having filmed, than having filmed.
It'll illegal to film Broadway shows. They're not taking a video to "enjoy it later" they're doing it to post it, possibly hurting the show's ticket sales and def encouraging others who go to the show to film. "So what if it's just a short video?" you might say. But who's going to time how long someone is filming for? And with a popular Broadway show if filming was allowed all the performers would see is a sea of phones and people barely visible behind them. It's fine at a rock or pop concert, it's expected, but theatre performers are looking to connect with the audience, feel their engagement. Not check out where they got their phone case. So it's fine to you but you're not from the same culture this guy is from and you're not doing the same kind of performance he is.
@@stellangios Alright, that’s a fair argument. Don’t really got anything more to say to be honest.
ngl i’m grateful for bootlegs because broadway is not accessible. i’m not american and i probably will never go there, but i have a passion for musical theatre plus not a lot of shows do proshots either so bootlegs are the only way for me and many other international fans to see musicals. i know it sucks for the actors but there’s not much they can do about it either
When i was in 8th grade (pre-covid) i went to see Once On This Island where Lea Salonga was the Goddess of Love and she took this man who was filming on his phone and threw it right into the water. I thought she was so cool for that.
Dude you are performing infront of a whole crowd but feel like “a dolphin at sea world” when someone starts recording that doesn’t make sense
A recording has a potentially much larger audience, plus it can be seen again and again and dissected (or edited) in a way a purely live experience couldn't be. I think he's got a point
He said the guy was moving around trying to get the best angle, as if he wasn't a human being up there, performing and trying to connect with the audience.
He is a musical theatre actor, not a regular musician at a concert. It's illegal
It's all fun and games until you rip some deaf person's auto captioner out of their hand and get labeled an ableist who doesn't respect the deaf and hard of hearing.
If you’re publicly performing than expect to be filmed lol. Like wtf
he’s a broadway star. it is 100% not okay to film in a theatre.
This is theatre not a concert. Very different rules. It's like filming in a movie theatre, rude and you will be thrown out.