You know I originally wanted to hate him but...yeah... Though I just want to know what the other star touched elves look like. I bet they are probably less creepy and more beautiful. I bet that they are literal goddesses living among the stars. :)
I laugh everytime this scene happens, because Viren keeps saying his noble ideals of prosperity and triumph for humans, and Aaravos is like "You're not fooling me, Viren. You want the elves and dragons gone."
SAME! That's how I've always interpreted this scene: that Aaravos is getting Viren to admit that, yeah, he wants to conquer Xadia. I mean, it is totally possible that that was never Viren's goal and that Aaravos is just manipulating him to go along with what he wants, but I'm not so sure about that. There are several moment in seasons 1 and 2 that always make me think "Okay, I get it, Lord Virus, you wanna conquer Xadia and these "noble ideals" are mostly you just trying to justify said conquering. What else is new?"
I think Viren's hostility is more against the dragons than the Elves. He trusts Aaravos, refuses to attack Lux Aurea, and his goal has always been to end the sky archdeacon's royal line.
@@raptorzeraora2632 Dragons seem more dangerous than Elves. They have huge destruction power, and not all ballistas are enchanted with gryphon eyes. Plus, it's Thunder who traumatized Viren and kept humans from accessing Xadia for centuries.
I love how obvious it is that Aaravos is just leading Viren around by the nose. Viren doesn't have a plan and is just going along with what Aaravos wants. Aaravos wants to conquer Xadia, not Viren, although Viren does have a burning hatred for Xadia, which is probably part of why he's going along with what Aaravos wants.
yall are so wrong it's like we're not even watching the same show. Aaravos doesn't care to conquer Xadia. Viren from the start had wanted to increase his powers, expand humanity's territory, and get revenge on a species he saw as lesser. You can blame him for laying out the tools, but not for Viren asking for them to freaking begin with.
I think he was trying to get a better understanding of Viren's desires, then he realized the dark mage didn't have a clear endgame, so Aaravos kinda winged it.
Eric : "You know this actually reminds me of something my friend said after I said I wanted a bright future for Parani." Aiko Syracuse: "And who was that 'friend'? Fayre? Bari? Blondie Girl?!?! Eric: "It was Isaides..." Aiko: "If course I should have known..."
I love how we can all tell that Aaravos is playing him like a slide whistle, like he’s a puppeteer playing as a puppet. That’s why I love villains who do stuff like this
Or maybe wants to get someone else to do his dirty work for him, then wait for the opportunity to take the reins. He seems like the manipulative, puppetmaster type.
@@otherwordlycreations4042thats the thing, unlike the Archdragons Aaravos admits their arrogence, exemple from Aaravos "it is because of Avizandum what i AM, where i am today" "hm, he didnt even BOTHER to mension WHERE he emprisoned me!" the Archdragons want Xadia to belive their heores and saying Aaravos is the real monster here, but i think its the opposite in some way, if Aaravos said its because of Avizandum if he is what he is TODAY its because something happened between them
Viren's comment about a knife at humanity's throat reminds me of another quote: "If you stick a knife in my back nine inches and pull it out six inches, there's no progress. If you pull it all the way out that's not progress. Progress is healing the wound that the blow made." -Malcolm X
The kids bringing the Dragon Prince back want to heal the wounds between the Elves and Humans, the problem is, Xadia hasn't even pulled the knife out yet.
Me too... until he turned ten thousand people into magma abominations of course. You can’t have a bright future for humanity by turning the humans into monsters.
@@jsw973 TBH I wonder if Viren can actually undo that monster transforming spell and planned to do it after he won the war. If yes, it's not actually that bad. It's like getting a free fire immunity upgrade
I just love viren and aaravos in this scene as complex villains. Viren clearly deep down doesn’t want to conquer in the end at first he truly wants his people to thrive but as he stated before it’s difficult when a ‘knife’ is being held against all of humanity. Viren is a villan who is run by fear but that doesn’t mean that’s an excuse for his past decisions but I fully understand where his motivation is coming from. Aaravos is different on the other hand. He’s more like the devil in this scenario and how he’s tempting viren using manipulation tactics like repeating an idea over and over again till viren finally agrees. It’s easy to find evil ideas good when fear is involved especially when that fear is about self preservation. Aaravos is truly a dangerous villan as he knows how people operate and can manipulate almost anyone especially people as vulnerable and gullible like viren. I wouldn’t be supprised if aaravos knew exactly how all this would go down way before this point which is terrifying to think about. If aaravos wasn’t around to plant ideas I wouldn’t think viren would go as far as what he did but then again this is viren. His fear alone would probably drive him down that same path anyways.
Viren made a pact with Aaravos, at the point where, as he stated himself, he had "nothink left to lose". If this isn't the clear "Aaravos is the devil" then I don't know what is. And I really like that Aaravos is not from humans, he is na Elf (or was, now he is somethink resembling devilish entity) which showcases that evil isn't onlu human thing.
This is why Viren is my favorite character.. He believes he is protecting humanity but in actuality he’s just making things worse. His actions have further escalated the Xadian war, and yet he refuses to see how messed up he made things. He’s a villain/ but he’s definitely not Aaravos level. Aaravos killed the woman just by whispering to her.
Viren is trying to lie to himself that his goals are noble, but deep down he wants power, and Aaravos is the only one who can see it, and wether for his own gains or not it trying to get Viren to accept and persue his desires.
I actually like this scene cause it shows how Viren isn't necessarily a bad guy just a person who wants what best but is being forced to take a certain pathway to achieve his goal
I wouldn't say forced. Aaravos is manipulating him but Viren is making his own choices. Viren wants the quickest way to his goal and is extremely paranoid.
Viren's problem is that he doesn't really have any idea how to achieve his long term goal. Aaravos does. Aaravos can fill in the gap in the planning between start and stop. That's why Viren needs Aaravos. Viren is plenty powerful, although Aaravos is undeniably more so, but Viren simply isn't as good a planner as Aaravos is.
He's unfamiliar with the concept But then again, think about it: he has been locked up in the mirror for who knows how many years with presumably absolutely no human (elf) contact at all. He's gotta be feeling at least a liiiiittle bit touch-starved, no?
@@enikonagy1716 "Touch-starved" *wink,wink* I'll bet that one thing Aaravos will say to Claudia or Viren if they see him do something weird is "Uh I've been trapped in that mirror for 300* years, I think you can cut me a little slack." *I'm guessing 300 years,maybe it was longer or shorter than that
I love how Aaravos cuts through all of Viren's pretention and bullcrap. For all of his grandiose about humanity and "flourishing", everything he does is driven by both fear and greed. Chronic fear of the Elves and Dragons and greed for their magic and power. Remember in Season 1 when he spoke of "taking back the great magical lands that are rightfully ours". He ALWAYS wanted to conquer Xadia.
This scene highlights how delusional Viren really is. He keeps trying to tell himself that the evils he's committed were for the greater good. Even though its painfully clear he only wants to "save" humanity to feed his ego. Aaravos isn't fooled for one bit though.
Me, watching this scene the first time: Yooo, things are getting real up in here! My thirsty ass, watching this scene for the 100th time: Wait-! ...is Aaravos not wearing a shirt???
One thing that really strikes me about Viren is just how... stupidly arrogant he is. For a generally pragmatic and intelligent man, he's soooo easily manipulated. And only because of the power Aaravos can provide him. He's so wrapped up in getting his way that he barely stops to think about the EXTREMELY obvious fact that Aaravos cares about himself and what HE wants. Not what Viren wants. Aaravos is eventually going to drop Viren like a hot potato and he'll have no one to blame but himself. On a lighter note, does anyone else just grin from ear to ear when Aaravos does that cute little gesture with his hand and says, "Viren, I am nothing if not elegant and efficient,"? Lol, he's so endlessly entertaining.
It's funny because Viren is such a great morally grey character, he does bad things with good intentions. Sometimes he allows himself to slip into evil intentions but his end goal is to make humans equal to elves. Something which apparently Aaravos shares
Aaravos is more like Annatar (Sauron) rather than Lucifer. Annatar (Sauron) was titled the giver of gifts while Aaravos was titled the bearer of gifts.
y'all I just realized that Aaravos is literally "bad guy- Billie Eilish," like think about it. He's creepy but yet soooooo **screams in confusion** *so you're a tough guy like it really rough guy just can't get enough guy I'm that bad type make your mama sad type... I'm the bad guy duh* **Y'ALL I CAN'T BREATHE**
I am kinda worried that aaravos will manage to kill zubeia. He proofed that his plans are usually successful and by what he showed previously he is totally able to kill her
I think it might be the opposite, Aarove might have love tensions for Viren but Viren doesnt notice it, hence why Aaravos is flirting with him constently
Xoana Lima-Barcellos I think it’s because while viren isn’t morally smart, he’s a smart tactician. He’s always had a plan in his mind. He’s smart and knows how to manipulate. the writers just threw that out the the window in this scene.
best part they will not want him as king if he took over and find out he must give his title to a kid the only problem with that kid is made from Dark magic which kills off live nearby magician he may has died remember Viren earn the worst father reward think if he find out is own son Soren he the head his fother is basicly out of touch with is people
"Is your wish to rule Ukraine?" "No! I wish for Russia to flourish, and it can't flourish with NATO and nazis at it's borders!" "So, you wish to conquer Ukraine." "No! No! My goal is a brighter future for Russia!" "Right... and this bright future will require us to... conquer Ukraine?"
You should reverse the post, it´s more like: "Is your wish to exploit Ukraine?" "No I Wish for NATO and all it´s member states to flourish. And it cant Flourish if Ukraine is plagued with native Russians" "So, you wish to add Ukraine to NATO?" "No! That would lead to WWIII. My goal is to ensure Russia doesnt exploit Ukraine!" "Right... and this bright future will require us to... Conquer Ukraine away from it´s native Russian Population?" "Yes."
Sadly, it's only Aaravos' plan, not Viren's. Think about Avizandum's age-nearly 100-1000 years old. He must have immense power, but it's now pointless for Viren to seek it. The stone doesn't hold power; it holds blame. Viren wanted # power and leadership ( when do they never mixed ), but since viren wants to rule by taking out the strongest dragon, gaining power from him is useless. No more dragons mean no more power growth, only the ability to kill those who rely on magic. Viren's dream isn't even his own anymore is his real death because magic damage him making him living on magic no magic no more him. If magic harms you, attracting attention. It wasn't Viren's choice; it was forced on him. People won't listen to him; they'll fight him because he took their power. Viren seeks to rule people, not magic. Imagine if someone who needs magic to live no longer has magic and because if they recovered from death to alive by magic removing it would kill viren think if you filled with magic . think if the dragon was killed than he find everything they do was because of their type of monsters means no them no us
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Aaravos is super creepy yet strangely irresistible, ugh the feels!
You know I originally wanted to hate him but...yeah...
Though I just want to know what the other star touched elves look like. I bet they are probably less creepy and more beautiful. I bet that they are literal goddesses living among the stars. :)
@@earthbornparanian6252 they are
@@wolfstormwizard424
I also bet that probably have galaxy hair.
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Viren: I want humanity to flourish!
Aaravos: And how do you plan on doing that?
Viren: ...I dont know. I never thought I'd make it this far.
Literally
he never does always short term
Viren was faking it til he made it all along.
@@sebas8225 my gosh is literally true
Manipulative tactics.
I really like Aaravos' thing where he keeps repeating some idea until the other guy finally buckles under pressure and says Yes xD
@Charis Smith sadly :(
@Charis Smith :( 😭
Doesn't feel so nice, does it Viran???
So, conquering Xadia, is this your plan?
So about this "conquering Xadia" thing....
Xoana Lima-Barcellos Sometimes literally, as per the whole caterpillar down the throat thing.
I laugh everytime this scene happens, because Viren keeps saying his noble ideals of prosperity and triumph for humans, and Aaravos is like "You're not fooling me, Viren. You want the elves and dragons gone."
SAME! That's how I've always interpreted this scene: that Aaravos is getting Viren to admit that, yeah, he wants to conquer Xadia. I mean, it is totally possible that that was never Viren's goal and that Aaravos is just manipulating him to go along with what he wants, but I'm not so sure about that. There are several moment in seasons 1 and 2 that always make me think "Okay, I get it, Lord Virus, you wanna conquer Xadia and these "noble ideals" are mostly you just trying to justify said conquering. What else is new?"
@@OldCarlottaStudios
"Oh, I know, I. want. you. to .say. It."
I think Viren's hostility is more against the dragons than the Elves. He trusts Aaravos, refuses to attack Lux Aurea, and his goal has always been to end the sky archdeacon's royal line.
@@madeleinedartois4689 why tho?
@@raptorzeraora2632 Dragons seem more dangerous than Elves. They have huge destruction power, and not all ballistas are enchanted with gryphon eyes. Plus, it's Thunder who traumatized Viren and kept humans from accessing Xadia for centuries.
I love how obvious it is that Aaravos is just leading Viren around by the nose. Viren doesn't have a plan and is just going along with what Aaravos wants. Aaravos wants to conquer Xadia, not Viren, although Viren does have a burning hatred for Xadia, which is probably part of why he's going along with what Aaravos wants.
He also has an insatiable lust for power, something aaravos takes full advantage of throughout their dealings.
he does not think things through long terms just on the spot
yall are so wrong it's like we're not even watching the same show. Aaravos doesn't care to conquer Xadia. Viren from the start had wanted to increase his powers, expand humanity's territory, and get revenge on a species he saw as lesser.
You can blame him for laying out the tools, but not for Viren asking for them to freaking begin with.
Viren just wants the lands that humanity was kicked out of. Hmmmm. Reminds me of a certain group from a certain strip of land.
Aaravos: Rule Xadia?
Viren: no
Aravos: Rule Xadia?
Viren: ...no
Aaravos: Rule Xadia?
Viren: yes
The way you put it, I don't think Viren is conscious about what he's doing or why he's traveling with a worm (Aaravos) at his ear.
🤣😭😭thiss
@@CamSiv996 he wants the elf booty
Damn, Aaravos wants to crush Xadia so badly he said it 3 times!
I think he was trying to get a better understanding of Viren's desires, then he realized the dark mage didn't have a clear endgame, so Aaravos kinda winged it.
Eric : "You know this actually reminds me of something my friend said after I said I wanted a bright future for Parani."
Aiko Syracuse: "And who was that 'friend'? Fayre? Bari? Blondie Girl?!?!
Eric: "It was Isaides..."
Aiko: "If course I should have known..."
Trust me if you knew the truth then you’ll understand
I love how we can all tell that Aaravos is playing him like a slide whistle, like he’s a puppeteer playing as a puppet. That’s why I love villains who do stuff like this
Pfffffhaha now I'm just imagining Aaravos playing a slide whistle
morganmiller41 pfffftt 😂
@@vixenthedemonfoxvixen9831 he's just glancing at Viren while he does it. Haha Viren's all confused like "must be an elf thing"
The season 4 poster actually depicts aaravos as a puppeteer, but it's not just Viren he'll be controlling.
I get the feeling the sparkly elf boi wants to conquer Xadia. I don’t know where I get these insane ideas
Amy Conway really? Omg what a crazy thought.
Asma Khairul Azman ikr
Nice conspiracy theory bud
Sol I know
Or maybe wants to get someone else to do his dirty work for him, then wait for the opportunity to take the reins. He seems like the manipulative, puppetmaster type.
"I'm nothing if not elegant and efficient"
A.K.A Bitch, I know I'm fabulous
aaravos is at his peak of 'abusive boyfriend' in this season
abusibe *little bug pal* *
Abusive friend*
@@raptorzeraora2632 boyfriend**
@@Achzio omg yesss best words😂😂😂
The toxic little bug pal
“I’m nothing if not elegant AND efficient!”
His ego knows no bounds. And he continues to call Khessa and Thunder arrogant?!
I mean he's just stating facts there, sooo
@@devan6935 i guess that’s true
Biggest difference between them and Aaravos? He admits it, they didn't.
@@DragonGoddess18 Good point. Good point.
@@otherwordlycreations4042thats the thing, unlike the Archdragons Aaravos admits their arrogence, exemple from Aaravos "it is because of Avizandum what i AM, where i am today" "hm, he didnt even BOTHER to mension WHERE he emprisoned me!" the Archdragons want Xadia to belive their heores and saying Aaravos is the real monster here, but i think its the opposite in some way, if Aaravos said its because of Avizandum if he is what he is TODAY its because something happened between them
Viren's comment about a knife at humanity's throat reminds me of another quote: "If you stick a knife in my back nine inches and pull it out six inches, there's no progress. If you pull it all the way out that's not progress. Progress is healing the wound that the blow made." -Malcolm X
The kids bringing the Dragon Prince back want to heal the wounds between the Elves and Humans, the problem is, Xadia hasn't even pulled the knife out yet.
@@ThanatorRider And Veiren keeps driving the knife in further before they have any reason to
@@Scarlet_Starlight and is too full of himself too see it
there is something seductive and alluring about his voice like you can’t help but listen to it
Virens an amazing character. His motivations are actually pretty believable. I was kinda rooting for him...
Me too... until he turned ten thousand people into magma abominations of course. You can’t have a bright future for humanity by turning the humans into monsters.
JSW tbf that was Aaravos manipulating him
@@jsw973 TBH I wonder if Viren can actually undo that monster transforming spell and planned to do it after he won the war. If yes, it's not actually that bad. It's like getting a free fire immunity upgrade
Maybe but I root for Aaravos.
@@jsw973 he believes the needs of the many are more important then the few if he has to turn an army into monsters so the rest can thrive he dont care
1:56 "I'll take that as a compliment."
I just love viren and aaravos in this scene as complex villains.
Viren clearly deep down doesn’t want to conquer in the end at first he truly wants his people to thrive but as he stated before it’s difficult when a ‘knife’ is being held against all of humanity. Viren is a villan who is run by fear but that doesn’t mean that’s an excuse for his past decisions but I fully understand where his motivation is coming from.
Aaravos is different on the other hand. He’s more like the devil in this scenario and how he’s tempting viren using manipulation tactics like repeating an idea over and over again till viren finally agrees. It’s easy to find evil ideas good when fear is involved especially when that fear is about self preservation. Aaravos is truly a dangerous villan as he knows how people operate and can manipulate almost anyone especially people as vulnerable and gullible like viren. I wouldn’t be supprised if aaravos knew exactly how all this would go down way before this point which is terrifying to think about.
If aaravos wasn’t around to plant ideas I wouldn’t think viren would go as far as what he did but then again this is viren. His fear alone would probably drive him down that same path anyways.
Viren made a pact with Aaravos, at the point where, as he stated himself, he had "nothink left to lose". If this isn't the clear "Aaravos is the devil" then I don't know what is. And I really like that Aaravos is not from humans, he is na Elf (or was, now he is somethink resembling devilish entity) which showcases that evil isn't onlu human thing.
This is why Viren is my favorite character.. He believes he is protecting humanity but in actuality he’s just making things worse. His actions have further escalated the Xadian war, and yet he refuses to see how messed up he made things. He’s a villain/ but he’s definitely not Aaravos level. Aaravos killed the woman just by whispering to her.
Aaravos is the best. He’s just so... wow
And at the same time, Viren is slowly slipping deeper and deeper into villainy.
@@markzilla6895 and as always he to full of himself to see it
Ok to be fair, that woman who is a sun elf, had it coming.
@@zeokingsilver more like Viren is in denial 😂 although yes he can be TOO full of himself 😜
Viren is trying to lie to himself that his goals are noble, but deep down he wants power, and Aaravos is the only one who can see it, and wether for his own gains or not it trying to get Viren to accept and persue his desires.
Aaravos is the literal invisible devil whispering into Viren’s ear to tempt him lol
the saddest of sinners know their guilt and lie to themselves which is what that fool is doing
I actually like this scene cause it shows how Viren isn't necessarily a bad guy just a person who wants what best but is being forced to take a certain pathway to achieve his goal
the end justifies the means for him
I wouldn't say forced. Aaravos is manipulating him but Viren is making his own choices. Viren wants the quickest way to his goal and is extremely paranoid.
he not being forced every bad thing he did he did on his own
@@morganmiller41 plus he did bad things even before they met
Aaravos:YOU want to rule zaidia?
Viren:No!
Aaravos:Yes yo do
Viren:No!
Aaravos sexy voice:Yes you do.
Viren:Yes!
Literally
I’m starting to think the music effect with the third time he said it may have been a sign of magic
Viren's problem is that he doesn't really have any idea how to achieve his long term goal. Aaravos does. Aaravos can fill in the gap in the planning between start and stop. That's why Viren needs Aaravos. Viren is plenty powerful, although Aaravos is undeniably more so, but Viren simply isn't as good a planner as Aaravos is.
thats cause he does not think long term only short-sighted goals which is what the king learned with his magic
I really love how subtle and subconsciouly Aaravos carefully plants the idea of a human rule over Xadia into Viren's head.
more like he's forcing Viren to admit that his idea of humanity flourishing and conquering Xadia aren't so different
1:29 Viren be like "Of course it's me. Why would I ever think otherwise?"
0:37 Sheesh, Aaravos. Personal space much?
He's unfamiliar with the concept
But then again, think about it: he has been locked up in the mirror for who knows how many years with presumably absolutely no human (elf) contact at all. He's gotta be feeling at least a liiiiittle bit touch-starved, no?
@@enikonagy1716 "Touch-starved" *wink,wink*
I'll bet that one thing Aaravos will say to Claudia or Viren if they see him do something weird is "Uh I've been trapped in that mirror for 300* years, I think you can cut me a little slack."
*I'm guessing 300 years,maybe it was longer or shorter than that
@@DragonGoddess18 lol
He's a starve-touch elf...??
Eh? Eeehhhh?
I'm sorry that's terrible😅😅
Lol terrible? guess my sense of humor is bad if I laughed 😂
@@enikonagy1716noooo best joke yet! 😂😂😂😂
I just love how Aaravos is messing with him XD
I’m convinced viren isn’t a villain because all he wants is equality for humans
I love how Aaravos cuts through all of Viren's pretention and bullcrap. For all of his grandiose about humanity and "flourishing", everything he does is driven by both fear and greed. Chronic fear of the Elves and Dragons and greed for their magic and power. Remember in Season 1 when he spoke of "taking back the great magical lands that are rightfully ours". He ALWAYS wanted to conquer Xadia.
Yes
Liberation not conquest.
when he raises his eyebrow aggghhhhh
Viren maybe a villain but he got a noble cause, I think he really wants to better humanity, Aaravos just plays him like a flute
Wdym?
Say what?
God I love how smug aaravos is
That voice is scary but sadistic at the same time. Is that just me. ?
His ears 😍😍 so cute😍😍😍
This scene highlights how delusional Viren really is. He keeps trying to tell himself that the evils he's committed were for the greater good. Even though its painfully clear he only wants to "save" humanity to feed his ego. Aaravos isn't fooled for one bit though.
in his own fucked up way he thinks he right but any one with brains see he nuts
How is it clear he wants to save humanity for his own ego?
Yes
Viren: *breathes*
Aaravos: C O N Q U E R X A D I A
Me, watching this scene the first time: Yooo, things are getting real up in here!
My thirsty ass, watching this scene for the 100th time: Wait-! ...is Aaravos not wearing a shirt???
Kind of funny honestly.
Aaravos doesn't really care what happens or what he does as long as he "rules" Xadia
One thing that really strikes me about Viren is just how... stupidly arrogant he is. For a generally pragmatic and intelligent man, he's soooo easily manipulated. And only because of the power Aaravos can provide him. He's so wrapped up in getting his way that he barely stops to think about the EXTREMELY obvious fact that Aaravos cares about himself and what HE wants. Not what Viren wants. Aaravos is eventually going to drop Viren like a hot potato and he'll have no one to blame but himself.
On a lighter note, does anyone else just grin from ear to ear when Aaravos does that cute little gesture with his hand and says, "Viren, I am nothing if not elegant and efficient,"? Lol, he's so endlessly entertaining.
much of it due to the king spoiling him and never stopping him.
It's funny because Viren is such a great morally grey character, he does bad things with good intentions. Sometimes he allows himself to slip into evil intentions but his end goal is to make humans equal to elves. Something which apparently Aaravos shares
some of the worst things done were with the best of inentions. What he is, is a fool
He's such a psycho sparkle sycophant 😂😂😂
I think Aaravos wants to conquer Xadia
Woww, what in the world ever gave you that idea
i love how Viren is in the same situation as his son just before this scene.
Aaravos is more like Annatar (Sauron) rather than Lucifer. Annatar (Sauron) was titled the giver of gifts while Aaravos was titled the bearer of gifts.
ok so either aaravos is manipulating viren or he's cutting through his bs to make him say his true intentions
His true intentions
Aaravos seems so smug in this
Aaravos is probably laughing (smiling very hard) because he knows everything Viren will answer is bullshit.
Yes
y'all I just realized that Aaravos is literally "bad guy- Billie Eilish," like think about it. He's creepy but yet soooooo
**screams in confusion**
*so you're a tough guy like it really rough guy just can't get enough guy
I'm that bad type make your mama sad type...
I'm the bad guy
duh*
**Y'ALL I CAN'T BREATHE**
Emphasis on the *DUH*
Great, just great, I can't unhear this.
What about “TOXIC BY BRITNEY SPEARS”
Your dangerous I’m loving it
Seriously tho
for a guy who acts like he knows better he does not know what to do.
Viren is one of my favourite characters
He’s manipulative, arrogant, self-righteous, but a great resourceful and intelligent leader and
I am kinda worried that aaravos will manage to kill zubeia. He proofed that his plans are usually successful and by what he showed previously he is totally able to kill her
Zubeia is awake now, she wont go down without a fight, not only that but she will most likely send zym to find ezran
thats due to him not being a fool like viren, He plans and thinks things through.
Viren is envious of the elves because they are loved by mana so she used his fellow humans as a defense that his actions is for the greater good.
Elves are arrogant and Elitist
Viren is right though. Humanity cannot thrive when faced against Elven oppression
Viren is in love with Avaaros
Who isn't?
@@angriboi do you think aaravos feels the same way
@@randomaudios7068 I mean.. he´s constantly flirting with Viren, so.. i guess?
They are in love with eachother😆🥰, hands down 👐 👇 😌no one can change my mind
I think it might be the opposite, Aarove might have love tensions for Viren but Viren doesnt notice it, hence why Aaravos is flirting with him constently
eum so he want more magic from the east?
so he plans to open up trade by forse
man Viren neeeds some geopolitical classes.
Hallo ich hoffe es geht euch gut .
In einer Staffel macht cellem ja den Brief auf und da steht drin das der Würfel Aavaros gehörte .
Going into Xadia without any actual plan was completely out of character in my opinion
what makes you say that?
Xoana Lima-Barcellos I think it’s because while viren isn’t morally smart, he’s a smart tactician. He’s always had a plan in his mind. He’s smart and knows how to manipulate. the writers just threw that out the the window in this scene.
It’s not
@@gracekim1998 why ?
He asks Aaravos "What's the plan?" Maybe he was just so masterfully manipulated that he completely trusts him?
I can't believe they have a kid together now
best part they will not want him as king if he took over and find out he must give his title to a kid
the only problem with that kid is made from Dark magic which kills off live nearby magician he may has died
remember Viren earn the worst father reward think if he find out is own son Soren
he the head his fother is basicly out of touch with is people
"Is your wish to rule Ukraine?"
"No! I wish for Russia to flourish, and it can't flourish with NATO and nazis at it's borders!"
"So, you wish to conquer Ukraine."
"No! No! My goal is a brighter future for Russia!"
"Right... and this bright future will require us to... conquer Ukraine?"
😂
You should reverse the post, it´s more like:
"Is your wish to exploit Ukraine?"
"No I Wish for NATO and all it´s member states to flourish. And it cant Flourish if Ukraine is plagued with native Russians"
"So, you wish to add Ukraine to NATO?"
"No! That would lead to WWIII. My goal is to ensure Russia doesnt exploit Ukraine!"
"Right... and this bright future will require us to... Conquer Ukraine away from it´s native Russian Population?"
"Yes."
@@sebas8225 except NATO participation is voluntary 😅
I wish Viren had taken his time to become a bad guy.
He’s manipulative, egotistical, selfish, self righteous, and seeks for power and to control that which he can’t control
Is it possible that Callum distant direct descendants from aarvos?
Listen guys I think he wants to conquer Xadia😂😂😂
Viren is an anti villain, he did many evil and bad things because he want to make life better for the humans.
Sadly, it's only Aaravos' plan, not Viren's.
Think about Avizandum's age-nearly 100-1000 years old. He must have immense power, but it's now pointless for Viren to seek it. The stone doesn't hold power; it holds blame. Viren wanted # power and leadership ( when do they never mixed ), but since viren wants to rule by taking out the strongest dragon, gaining power from him is useless.
No more dragons mean no more power growth, only the ability to kill those who rely on magic. Viren's dream isn't even his own anymore is his real death because magic damage him making him living on magic no magic no more him.
If magic harms you, attracting attention. It wasn't Viren's choice; it was forced on him. People won't listen to him; they'll fight him because he took their power. Viren seeks to rule people, not magic.
Imagine if someone who needs magic to live no longer has magic and because if they recovered from death to alive by magic removing it would kill viren think if you filled with magic .
think if the dragon was killed than he find everything they do was because of their type of monsters means no them no us
Why don't we ship Lord Viren with Aaravos hmm, Viravos? lol
I do ship them :)
Trust me, there's plenty who do ship them
No, we dont need anymore gay characters. Besides not everything needs to be romantic
I ship them already!!🥰🥰love them
me who secretly looks at Viravos fanarts: 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👄👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀