I had a 23 wagoneer with the hurricane engine. When it ran it was great, but it constantly had engine issues. After 6 1/2 months of ownership and 4 of those in the garage, Stellantis bought us out of the wagoneer and we bought a Durango with the 5.7. Zero problems with the Durango
Yes sir my bro is a mechanic at the dealer and he hates those jeep with the hurricane engine there was a point in time where he had 20 line up to be fixed. He said that the dealer will stop smelling thwm
Yeah get some pickups that tow a lot, they will be blowing engines at 50k or less. I have 272k on my Pentastar. You’ll never see mileage like that on those engines ever.
@@chriswadlington2465 agreed, with a 2025 Rebel, where I'm at I usually set cruise to 75 and I'm averaging just around 26mph highway, with close to 30 around the 45 - 55 mph long stretch roads, but my area also has 90 octane no ethanol for what that's worth. Makes me wonder if it's maybe a quality control thing on Stelantis's end or if drivers are just flooring it at every opportunity.
So what problem was solved by removing the dip stick? With no dip stick you can't see the condition of the oil. You won't be able to see if it's cooking/burnt, has metal flakes, pulling in coolant. All you'll know is "Level is fine" until the next oil change. Again, what was the problem?
Most people buying a $100,000 vehicle don't even understand why they need an oil change the removal of the dipstick might not seem to make sense do people like us, but I promise most of the people buying used cars are a lot more pleased to see the numbers right on their dash
@@eugenepiurkowski5439 Hemi powered vehicles were selling. Stop lying! The dealers got greedy and raised prices on Hemi cars and trucks you can buy Hurrican powered trucks cheaper than Hemi trucks, thing is 2024 was a crap year for Hemi powered Ram trucks as they only came with the e- torque.. huge electric generator and a battery pack behind the back seat..Its a mild hybrid .
I hope they actually do have a new V8 in the works. That said, getting rid of the Hemi was only part of the problem. I think the pricing and just overall lack of value across the lineup is how Stellantis is killing their sales.
As an old school Jeep guy I'm a huge fan of inline sixes, but I'm hearing reports of reliability issues with plastic parts and other things on the Hurricane. Stellantis's reputation for cost cutting and sourcing cheap parts has me holding off buying a new Jeep.
If it was a mopar i6 it be different but I'm betting this is a French or Italian design and then add turbos which dodge has never had luck with and your asking for issues
Except the HEMI has a design flaw that causes the lifters to not get enough oil and it then chews up the camshaft. The only fix is to run it hard more often than not. Or put aftermarket lifters in it designed to cure the problem. This is why the cops don't get that motor in their cars anymore; they idle them too much.
@@fireflyraven2760 Yeah no kidding. If I had to open one to do that it would be getting more than just lifters. This is exactly why I sold my 2017 Charger Scat Pack at 60k miles.
And that’s exactly what all these manufacturers are giving us. Turbo crap. I bought a 1.4 turbo Dart back in 2013. Engine blew at 25k. Got rid of it at 50k. No thanks. NA engines from this point out.
@@MatthewWilliams-b1m yeah seams only the HD gas trucks are the only ones left built for longevity anymore. The diesels emissions equipment is terrible.
I put over 40k in 6 months on the standard output I6 with no issues im loving it! Was owner of the 5.7 witch was nice but this performs allot better just missing the sound of the V8
How many have you seen with failed thermostats and or head gaskets? I’ve seen so many, if they can eliminate a lot of the plastic and stop cheaping out on the parts I think it could be great
@@logantcooper6 I'd guess the head gaskets are related to the thermostat issue. Overheat any modern engine with aluminum heads and they will blow the HG.
The head gaskets are due to the thermostat and customers are COMPLETELY oblivious to their vehicle overheating. Had a customer said there’s shut off “with no warning” 2 times. Found the thermostat was completely blocked (small internal piece of the thermostat is breaking off). Customer swore up and down it never said it overheated, just shut off. People are clueless these days
I don't mean to be a doubter, but when your very livelihood (job) is at risk if you share negative thoughts, its somewhat harder to completely trust what you are saying.
Amen. We’re NOT getting an unvarnished opinion from an employee that works at the dealership. Take what he says with a grain of salt. He has a dog in this fight.
I have a 2023 Ram 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi. Love the overall performance and its overall been an excellent pickup. Super super smooth shifting and I haul 9000 lbs of hay with it all the time. The tranny never gets hot!! And the power is definitely not diesel power for pulling but it’s definitely no slouch. I’m really curious about how reliable the new Hurricane is going to be in the future. Great Vid!!!
@@Trukstuf you are as fake as a plastic these motors are made out of. You sound like a freaking stalantis commercial. Everyone is starting to learn these motors are f****** junk.
The main issue with this new engine is the thermostat failures are blowing out head gaskets and warping the blocks and cylinder heads. Very cool motor lots of sensors and unique intake and liquid to air intercooler. Great content fun to watch
I’m very impressed with this new engine for Ram , I own a 2008 Ram with the 5.7 Hemi and the wife and I test drove a 2025 Ram with the 3.0 L i6 hurricane engine and we both were very impressed with the engine and how quick and quite it was. In my opinion I feel that this will be just as reliable as most modern trucks today. Can’t wait to buy ours in the spring.
@ I owned a 2014 ford f150 with a 3.5 Eco Boost and I test drove a 2025 f150 stx with the 2.7 v6 Eco Boost engine and the 3.5 power boost and honestly like the 2025 Ram 1500 with the 3.0 i6 engine better. Ford f150 are awesome trucks a lot better than any Gm in my opinion. I think of pulling the trigger on a 2025 RAM
I own the new Laramie and I love this truck. I drove every damn truck out there for almost 6 months of research on what to get and IMHO, this truck kills them all....period. Incredible ride and power. Time will tell. If all good, I will do a buyout.
I ordered a 2025 RAM and opted for the tried-and-true Pentastar V6. I've already seen people reporting issues and trucks with their cabs off to fix broken shit. Never buy a first- or second-year new design. NO THANKS!
Let’s not forget the problems the Pentastar had its first couple years. My buddies ‘23 Ram with the 3.6 is at the dealership getting all new rocker arms @ 30k. It’s crap shoot with any engine anymore.
It will be interesting to see how the longevity will be on this engine. Hopefully it will be better than the ecoboost engines that use the twin turbo engine. Anytime you make things more complex you loose reliability and longevity and repairs will obviously be much more than a normally aspirated engine.
@@theglitch99most of the people buying a 100,000 vehicle don't even know or understand why they need an oil change, so removing the dipstick but adding a screen that tells you it's full, is more pleasing to the customer.
I have a 3.0L inline 6 engine with a single twin turbo (not a Stellantis engine). It's rated at 320hp. The only engine problems I had were a water pump, thermostat and the belt tensioner. Oh I forget to say it's 8 yrs old with 128k miles I trust the Hurricane will fare as well as my engine.
I’ve been hearing your statement from many sources for a few years now. Logically thinking, it makes a lot of sense. But… there are hundreds of thousands? Million maybe, of turbo’d engines out there still going strong. My son has a 2011(might as well say 14 years old), turbo V6 FORD F150. He bought it used at 100k 8 years ago. Over 200k now, still running strong. It’s not an anomaly.
@@ptw2408 all those oldheads keep thinking this the early 2000’ and 90’s when that tech was just really entering the scenes…they won’t talk about the earlier generations of V8’s and all the help they caused later in the years
i have a '24 obsidian wagoneer L with the high output, I have a 2020 Limited Ram 1500. The hurricane has no issues moving the bus around, it feels good and all, but I prefer the feel of my truck with the V8
It will be interesting to see if these 3 liter engines make it into the Wrangler and Gladiator. I have a 2023 Gladiator with the 3.6, so far that engine has been fine. The ZF transmission is awesome in it. It's one of the biggest reasons why I traded my 3rd Gen Tacoma for a Gladiator.
This new engine, or any turbo-equipped engine, is worse than useless in any car going off road on Jeep trails, because the car is basically creeping along at little more than an idle, which means there is no exhaust gas flow into the turbo, which means the engine is just a 180-cubic inch straight 6 on natural aspiration, which means no power at all to the rear wheels. At one time a few years ago, Jeep Wranglers had an option of a 4-cylinder turbo engine The local Durango, Colorado Jeep dealer refused to even stock them, because all the Jeep trail people in the surrounding mountains would refuse to buy the vehicles with the 4-cylinder turbos. The 4.6 liter natural aspiration Wranglers did OK, because the cars came with geared-down running gear. Jeepsters have always wanted the 5.7 or 6.4 V8 hemi engine for off road Jeeping because they could creep along at low rpms and still make very good headway.
As someone who has owned two hemi Rams and one was tuned and the other had a pulsar on it my 2025 had so much more power and is a beast. I loved all my Rams, but the inline 6 is hands down the best motor so far. It has surprised me with the power it has for a heavy vehicle.
Look at all that beautiful plastic on that engine. Those hot turbos will make that plastic brittle in no time. I could have sworn I saw a plastic water pump.
I've had 4 Hemis and currently a '21 Ecodiesel, which has been wonderful knock on wood. In test driving a '25 Laramie Hurricane, I found it to be incredibly quiet and smooth, kind of the best of both worlds between Hemi and Eco. Not quite the low-end torque of the Eco, but much better than Hemi, but not the racecar feel of the Hemi. Hurricane I drove had no wheres the sporty feel of Ford's 3.0L in my Explorer ST, which isn't terribly lighter than a 1/2 ton truck. Guess Ram is more set up for the refined feel compared to Ford, which is notchier and snappier, which I like.
‘2025 with the Hurri-Ken’…spoken like a true Utahn 😂 Excited to see what these engines do in the next generation Charger. Of course you won’t get the sound/rumble out of them compared to the Hemi, but they should put down some serious power once the aftermarket gets a hold of them. PS- thanks again for taking care of my truck!
I got a video on my channel I’m one of the first techs to replace a hurricane engine I did a tear down removing the cylinder head showing how bad it can get when these thermostats are failing which is a really common issue.
I have a very good friend, that me and him ,both Certified automobile technicians that has been in this industry for 33 years !! I work on my own self now !! But he is still active at the Dealership !! And his comment on these new Dodge/Stellantis TT Hurricane 6CYI engines is they are problems !! So far he said there has been about 30 of these new TT Hurricane 6CYI engines coming back to the Dealership with major problems !! And that's from customer's with construction company's , that use them as fleet vehicles !! Or your regular everyday customers, the drive them ,and problems that range, from ,headgaskets, plastic intake planets , oil pump failures , water pump failures camshafts failures, electronic engine oil dipstick failures , and the Crankshaft Snapping in half !! And he works in these Things for a living !! And he has work on alot of engines !! But he has said , to stay away from these new TT Hurricane 6CYI engines for now because it's just too many problems at once with them !!🤢🤢👎👎👎👎
I call BS on that. At our metro dealer we've seen zero hard part failures on the long block. Our issues have been fuel sensitivity related. If the 87 octane fuel isn't of excellent quality the engine derates in high ambient temps. The base engine has been rock solid though.
Unfortunately you must not get out much. There has been more problem. I know one personally didn't even had 1000 miles on it and they had to buy it back. The mechanics at the dealership hate seeing them come back in. @okcmoparguy724
@mikehertz6507 and most sensible people don't want a Porsche. Porsche is for people with more money than common sense. Porsche is for people who can just buy another car on a whim. Your average car owner wants something that they can maintain themselves for a reasonable price. Porsche doesn't fit that guideline, and neither does the Hurricane engine. The more dependent a vehicle is on electronics, plastics, and forced induction, the more unreliable it is. Plain and simple.
@@LeadStarDude strangely my 997 has had zero depreciation, rock solid reliability, most well balanced engine designed and handles like no other car. I take mine to the track, flog the shit out of it, then drive it home and wash it. No drama. Brakes and tires, that's it.
On this engine I’m not sure yet if there will be a need for one. As soon as they start coming in for service I can monitor that. If I see a need or benefit from having a catch can then I’ll make a video and post it
At our dealership our service department works in teams. Truck team, jeep team etc. I work on trucks and durangos only. I have not seen 1 truck come in for service yet so I don’t have an opinion to lean on. All I can say is that I am excited for this new engine and have high hopes for it. I have always been excited for new tech and new stuff. Otherwise I’d still be screaming for the Chevy 350 to make a comeback or the old hemis. But those engines could not keep up with the times and the result is they are only good for making bbq grills and boat anchors
@@Trukstuf i absolutely agree. I have always been a fan of inline 6 gas engines. This Hurricane is what i want in my next truck. Thanks for the review.
I work in service at cdjr one of my concerns is the amount of heat that engine generates after a road test you can't even touch the PCM or any of the plastic under the hood it's so hot in these were after road tests on 30° days. I wonder how all that heat under that hood is going to affect modules and sensors I mean it gets hot
I've owned 5 Ram 1500's (2005 hemi, 2009 hemi, 2011 4.7, 2014 3.6, 2017 hemi). Been waiting for a new truck, but unimpresssed with Ram's newer engines. I've been a MOPAR guy for the last 2 decades, but never again. Too many problems with electrical/computer systems and motor, and most recently the electric power steering rack on the 2017 ($3000 for a MOPAR rack here in Canada, plus install and alignment). There are some small positives - the interior is the best in segment IMHO, and all my transmissions were fine. Sticking with Ford 5.0's when it's time to turn the 2017 over soon.
I don't know when or what my next new will be but as a previous Hemi owner I look forward to any future insights you share with us, that new ram has my attention but I'm probably another year or two before pulling the trigger.
Me too, had a 240 in a big Ford and a 300 in a F150. Straight sixes are smooth, but forget the complexity and heat created by turbos. I don't know how we were even able to get down the road with only 150hp. Today if an engine doesn't put out 400+ hp this generation think it's underpowered. Just crazy.
A few months back I bought a 2024 ram 1500 Laramie with a 5.7 hemi etourque because I did not want the 3.0 engine in the first year offered. And I’m very happy with it. What I don’t understand is why they don’t come with the mud flaps and front tow hooks. I’ve already installed them both right away.
What do you think about longevity of the seals over a natural aspirated engine. Also for us in the south where our summers are all triple digits, how do you think those engines will be effected versus the simpler v8s which run cooler and under no boost?
Josh, don't you think the Hemi valve gear problems could be somewhat solved by running 0w40 PAO or ester based oils? 5w20 seems to be giving poor results.
@@JohnRayAllDaychange the oil within the recommended range or sooner. The inline six in a sedan I’ve had hasn’t had a dipstick since 2006. It’s not a big deal.
@@highoctaneadventure okay yeah that’s the general practice. But there are cases where an older vehicle might have an oil leak or burning oil. I owned a car like this when I was young. I would simply check the dipstick every few days to be safe and top it up. But in a situation like this (which is not that uncommon) and you got no dipstick .. if that sensor fails the engine is definitely getting oil starved and it’s done
@@JohnRayAllDayOh totally get it. The dipstick was definitely easier. My engine was notorious for burning through oil as well. I kept an eye on my driveway for leaks and the electronics gauge to see if my periodic top ups would show.
I’m guessing people aren’t using 5W-30 or 5W-40and not checking their coolant bottle enough and that’s why they’re having so much problems Or driving over 5000 miles between oil changes or not letting the engine cool down before shutting it off especially if it’s not water cooled the turbos that is
Seen another ram/jeep tech have to pull the body off a Waggoneer because the thermostat had an issue and cooked this engine, and it needed to be replaced. I don't know what a shop would charge to pull a body off a waggoneer and then replace the i6, especially say living in the rust belt but I can't imagine it would be cheap. Facts are these manufactures are starting to make these things like washing machines were you just throw the damn thing away as it il cost as much to fix as replacing it. Remember how in the 70's and 80's a washing machine was like a once every 20-year purchase. Now you should feel lucky if you get 5 years out of one, car manufactures are taking the same approach these days.
I had a 22 Ecodiesel and the truck itself was fine. I didn’t know about all the issues they were having with those engines when I bought it so I ended up going back to my Silverado. Since 2007 all I've had was Silverados. Never had a bit of trouble out of them. My 24 I have now while not a daily driver (I have a commuter car for work) it's been a great one so far AND it has a V8 not a pansy ass V6 I don't care they turbo'd it. Sounds like shit. Wouldn't have one. To each their own. Some may not care about sound. Many do though. And don't get us started with pricing smh
I wish they would've made a longer stroke Pentastar-like 3.5-4.0 liter straight 6 with dual injection naturally aspirated for super reliable and decently efficient base option. Probably 275-300 hp but with a better torque band than the current Pentastar. But I'm not an automotive corporate salesperson, I just watch a lot of videos of things going wrong to other people's over complicated engines.
If you boost a small 6 to do the job of a big 8, it's not going to last as long. Turbo bearing lubrication by the engine oil is asking for a grenading engine. Bluetec showed us that.
The 35 eco-boost in the Fords have been terrific. I’m sure this engine work out just the same. It’s just a shame that general motors,RAM, and the imports took 10 years to adopt this technology.
hopefully with the new president coming in and new EPA boss they can cut that regulation stuff and get back to V8s and V6s. it was such a dumb idea the past few years of thinking they can just put a 4banger with a turbo in all these big trucks and SUVs and it not have crappy MPGs and less durability. also maybe finally get rid of the DEF systems in diesels. just another thing that can go wrong and break down and cost people more money.
Exactly what I was thinking but in auto manufacturing 4 years of trump then what? Another environmentalists as prez, there's no guarantee there for manufacturing
my father inlaw just got a 2025....it huals ass....the thermostat issue has me worried tho...he also stated that's one of the downfalls...but its a beutiful truck and fast as hell..5xx Hp in a truck is just insane.
Reminds me of the ford raptors and the turbo engines. Not really efficient imo just looks good on paper but will break in the real world. Great video thank you for sharing
As a recall it won’t happen as recalls only apply to safety. It could come as a rapid response transmittal or tsb. The frequency I have seen of failure is outrages and I’m sure Stalantis is working on something.
When you got on the throttle early in the video, every internal part on the engine was screaming in pain, the blood pressure soared, it started seeing stars, and it almost blacked out. Turbocharged vehicles should only be owned by enthusiasts who understand how they work and how important it is to keep up with oil and coolant changes as well as operating for long life such as idling to cool the turbos after sustained high speed driving. Once these are out of warranty, we will find out how well made they are. If repairs exceed 40% of the value of the whole truck, it is totaled.
I’m sure the back order is a result of waiting for redesign. Very inconvenient for those who have their vehicles in for this issue and not being able to drive them.
That engine is already POS, all plastic, intercooler next to block, tstat issues, head gasket issues, overheating problems, same mpg as hemi, less mpg when towing... tell them the truth master tech guy...
My 5.7 2020 Ram Big Horn averages 17.2 with city and highway. If I just drive on the highway for long drives I get 19.5 to 20. Now when I actually use it as a truck and pull stuff, of course it drops to 8 to 14 mpg lol
i like the idea of SST but i need to see how it fairs over a few years in the Ram trucks. some say “it’s been in jeeps for years already” yes, it has but some platforms just seem to be plagued with issues. time will tell how this switch does, and two years in jeeps is not a long time. let’s see how this does in the next 8 years. i’m not a bitter-clinger to my 5.7 but the trans is great, the engine is not much to go wrong other than a couple things. The SST is a complex engine so there’s more to fail. call me a pessimist. and turbo “lag” is an older concern and with new tech, it’s not really a thing anymore.
Stellantis needs to hire some of these shade tree mechanics/engineers on here that comment seemingly knowing how everything could be so much better and reliable. Funny how people commenting on here can see in the future like Nostradamus….
Luckily I didn’t pay either time other than a rent a car. But if there is a better alternative I’ll go that route. I’m still hesitant about the new motor.
It has a lot of potential, once all the initial bugs and problems get worked out. Or IF it gets worked out. Stellantis isn't exactly showing they are beacons of quality the last few years.
Ram's 5.7 hemi needed to go as it was outclassed in the truck world by virtually every engine from every other manufacturer. The sad thing is that even though the hurricane engines are good on paper...we need to remember that they are from Stellantis and need much more development. Ram is trying to sell low-end products at premium prices...a recipe for failure.
Our company had banned the rental of Kia and Hyundai due to several being stolen while we rented. Now we've had to add Jeeps to the ban as we've had too many of our people stranded by breakdowns.
I think every company is just throwing out different engines and we are the test dummies to see which one breaks down first over price it so they can make adjustments for the f ups
How do you determine if your oil is dirty? What color is the oil? There is no current technology measuring dirt in oil. They can only guess based on a formula. The computer would never know if I put poor quality gasoline in the tank, and therefore contaminating the engine oil
I have full faith that the Stellantis engineers have the skill to engineer in a dipstick. So the operator can check the quality of the oil as well as the level. And check for coolant contamination.
there are only two dealers in my area. both want huge markups for these bad boys. (one wants $5000 and the other one wants $7500) do other dealers ask such ridiculous markups for RAM trucks these days?
formula One cars are designed so that the mechanics can take the engine apart using just a few different size tools, to save time. on the flipside, on a Honda, GL 1800 Goldwing motorcycle, you better have a system for keeping track of all of the different length fasteners when you are changing the air filter, which will take six hours according to the flat rate manual. At a labor rate of $130 an hour at the dealer. The labor alone will cost you $780 just to change the air filter on the goldwing. I thought that was ridiculous when I heard that on the Internet, until I did the job myself. That’s a fair price. if you have your dealer change your air filter every 10,000 miles on your home to Goldwing, when you reach 100,000 miles, you will have spent nearly $8000 just in labor for changing the air filter 10 times, plus parts, plus shop materials, plus disposal fee, plus tax.. it would certainly be a quicker job if there was a standardization of the fastener sizes and lengths, since there is no dipstick to check the oil, what kind of system is ram using to notify the driver that the oil is getting low? Oil pressure sending unit indicating a low oil pressure situation? or are they going to use sensors to warn the driver that the oil level is low before there’s a drop in oil pressure? That’s the way Yamaha has been doing it since the early 1980s on their motorcycle engines in their ventures. They warn you that your level is getting low before you have a drop in oil pressure which could be too late to prevent damage at times. back in 1982 one Honda introduced the CX 500 turbo motor cycle available to the public. That turbo was the size of a dime and it reached over 100,000 RPMs. that was over 40 years ago.saab used to turbos way back when also. There was a precaution you had to take with turbos. When you pull up, let’s say to a gas station off of the Interstate, you could not just shut the key off and get out to get gasoline, you had to sit there for maybe 30 seconds to allow the turbo to spool down. because if you just shut the key off, the engine stops, so does the oil pump, but that turbo is still spinning and extremely high RPMs at times. So you have to keep supplying it with oil till it slows down..
Can you tell me if I'm okay to run 3/4 oil level vs 7/8 level in my 2025 Ram 1500 hurricane i6?.. also I'm only around 26 PSI at idle... It never goes over 30 psi when I'm running it..am I ok at those levels?
No more Dodge products for me! Bought a new 2001 Ram 1500 4WD extend cab and it was the worst vehicle I ever owned. After 2 years the whole top of the dash crumbled and caved in leaving a hole you could fit a small child in and at 49 thousand miles the transmission gave up the ghost and again at 100 thousand miles. The body rusted so bad that it actually whistled when driving down the highway from all the rust holes in the body and every 2 years the water pump had to be replaced. FInally sold it for junk and went and bought the wife a New 2021 KIA Sorento X-Line prestige with the 2.5 turbo and so far no problem with it and she loves it. Stay away from Dodge and Chrysler they're all junk!
I had a 23 wagoneer with the hurricane engine. When it ran it was great, but it constantly had engine issues. After 6 1/2 months of ownership and 4 of those in the garage, Stellantis bought us out of the wagoneer and we bought a Durango with the 5.7. Zero problems with the Durango
Yes sir my bro is a mechanic at the dealer and he hates those jeep with the hurricane engine there was a point in time where he had 20 line up to be fixed. He said that the dealer will stop smelling thwm
What problems?
@@idontcaresapo8233 He's going to stop smelling them? 🤣
@@idontcaresapo8233Your bros weird
@@fire398017😂his post is smelly as well.
This engine will show its real colors after two years so let’s wait and see
They have already been out for two years in the Jeep Wagoneers.
@@55afishead yes but, how many people have purchased this model??? And how many miles on them?
@@fj404 who knows?
It's already been out for atleast two years in the Jeep Wagoneers lol
Yeah get some pickups that tow a lot, they will be blowing engines at 50k or less. I have 272k on my Pentastar. You’ll never see mileage like that on those engines ever.
Crap fuel mileage on top of questionable reliabilty and high cost to purchase. What could go wrong?
Must be the way some people drive pertaining to poor milage.
68 mph- 25.7 mpg
55 mph- 29 mpg
All flat land cruise control
@@chriswadlington2465 agreed, with a 2025 Rebel, where I'm at I usually set cruise to 75 and I'm averaging just around 26mph highway, with close to 30 around the 45 - 55 mph long stretch roads, but my area also has 90 octane no ethanol for what that's worth. Makes me wonder if it's maybe a quality control thing on Stelantis's end or if drivers are just flooring it at every opportunity.
crap fuel mileage? what do you mean??
He talking about towing lol.
So what problem was solved by removing the dip stick? With no dip stick you can't see the condition of the oil. You won't be able to see if it's cooking/burnt, has metal flakes, pulling in coolant. All you'll know is "Level is fine" until the next oil change. Again, what was the problem?
Most people buying a $100,000 vehicle don't even understand why they need an oil change the removal of the dipstick might not seem to make sense do people like us, but I promise most of the people buying used cars are a lot more pleased to see the numbers right on their dash
The problem was they needed to cut costs and increase profits. Imagine how much money saved per vehicle by not installing a dipstick
The more complicated they make them the more people will bring them to the dealer it's that simple.
Just open the oil fill cap the oil is on the back of the cap
You think that's bad wait tell you have to change the plastic slide thermostat 😅😅😅
Stellantis is now scrambling to return a V8 to the lineup. Sales are cratering.
Hemis were not selling. The world had moved on. BUT, all their vehicles are too $
@@eugenepiurkowski5439 Hemi powered vehicles were selling. Stop lying!
The dealers got greedy and raised prices on Hemi cars and trucks you can buy Hurrican powered trucks cheaper than Hemi trucks, thing is 2024 was a crap year for Hemi powered Ram trucks as they only came with the e- torque.. huge electric generator and a battery pack behind the back seat..Its a mild hybrid .
Facts v8 is coming back
Hemmi is my favorite engine
I hope they actually do have a new V8 in the works. That said, getting rid of the Hemi was only part of the problem. I think the pricing and just overall lack of value across the lineup is how Stellantis is killing their sales.
As an old school Jeep guy I'm a huge fan of inline sixes, but I'm hearing reports of reliability issues with plastic parts and other things on the Hurricane. Stellantis's reputation for cost cutting and sourcing cheap parts has me holding off buying a new Jeep.
That's Stellantis for ya. Those old AMC and Chrysler straight 6s are gone
Me too
I wouldn’t mind an inline 6 minus the turbos. Less problems down the road.
If it was a mopar i6 it be different but I'm betting this is a French or Italian design and then add turbos which dodge has never had luck with and your asking for issues
That was a tried and true inline 6,they should have just put a turbo on that engine,that would have been awesome 😊😊😊
some very valuable words... "if it aint broke dont fix it"
BRING BACK THE HEMI
Except the HEMI has a design flaw that causes the lifters to not get enough oil and it then chews up the camshaft. The only fix is to run it hard more often than not. Or put aftermarket lifters in it designed to cure the problem. This is why the cops don't get that motor in their cars anymore; they idle them too much.
A turbo 6 that’s full of flaws still isn’t the answer for that either
@robgoffroad don't make me get tools to cracked open a hemi don't make me build
@@fireflyraven2760 Yeah no kidding. If I had to open one to do that it would be getting more than just lifters. This is exactly why I sold my 2017 Charger Scat Pack at 60k miles.
Recent Hemis were garbage as well.The older ones were great tho.
Nobody wants a nice new engine that is dead before 100k. We want longevity!
And that’s exactly what all these manufacturers are giving us. Turbo crap.
I bought a 1.4 turbo Dart back in 2013. Engine blew at 25k. Got rid of it at 50k. No thanks. NA engines from this point out.
Ford sells Ecoboost and power stroke line are both known for not making a100 k.
@@MatthewWilliams-b1m yeah seams only the HD gas trucks are the only ones left built for longevity anymore. The diesels emissions equipment is terrible.
@@MatthewWilliams-b1mThat's a lie
Manufacturers don’t want you to have a truck that lasts 250 K. They need you to buy vehicles more often like every five years.
I put over 40k in 6 months on the standard output I6 with no issues im loving it! Was owner of the 5.7 witch was nice but this performs allot better just missing the sound of the V8
This engine sounds like shit. Please don't be that guy and modify the exhaust.
@@josephmorales9321if you are driving a 5.7 and me in my 3.0 TT you won’t hear me pass you 😂
@@DABII71 I'm more of a B58 guy myself. Claps the 3.0 TT's cheeks with a single turbo and sounds good doing it. 🙂
@@josephmorales9321not in a foot of snow 😂
How many have you seen with failed thermostats and or head gaskets?
I’ve seen so many, if they can eliminate a lot of the plastic and stop cheaping out on the parts I think it could be great
Perfect! (In Street fighter II announcer voice)
I haven't heard about head gaskets but have heard about thermostat housing issues.
@@logantcooper6 I'd guess the head gaskets are related to the thermostat issue. Overheat any modern engine with aluminum heads and they will blow the HG.
The head gaskets are due to the thermostat and customers are COMPLETELY oblivious to their vehicle overheating. Had a customer said there’s shut off “with no warning” 2 times. Found the thermostat was completely blocked (small internal piece of the thermostat is breaking off). Customer swore up and down it never said it overheated, just shut off. People are clueless these days
Welp, let the trash heap begin, smh'..
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I don't mean to be a doubter, but when your very livelihood (job) is at risk if you share negative thoughts, its somewhat harder to completely trust what you are saying.
The truck is so new there isn't much to say yet from a repair perspective
Amen. We’re NOT getting an unvarnished opinion from an employee that works at the dealership. Take what he says with a grain of salt. He has a dog in this fight.
I will buy another RAM 1500 to replace my 2016 Laramie after they bring back the 5.7l. I need a truck that runs EVERY DAY
Never gonna happen, as Stellantis will end up paying massive fines for missing CARB/EPA efficiency and pollution targets.
You're going to buying a 2023 or '24 then. Better off w/ '24 Titan Pro4x
Trump can roll back all those requirements, which he has already mentioned as a possibility.
You better fix or upgrade the truck 🚛 you got buddy😅
@@skruface Hoping trump will do away with that. And Chrysler Chrysler can just do the i6 for California
I’m annoyed that there is no oil dipstick - at least in the JEEP Wagoneer that I looked at. On that SUV, you have to rely on your gauges.
I agree
You basically need to rely on ALL your gauges!
Traded my 2018 5.7 for a 25 BigHorn with SST. I love it. Smooth refined power.
30k miles boom
Should have kept your 5.7 even tho it was shit as well.That garbage l6 3.0 will be toasted by 60k miles.
You poor soul
@@alpe6228100%
Love to see an inline 6 without turbos. I learned to drive on an old ford that had an inline 6. They were great.
Bring back the old 4.0. 6 cylinder that ran forever
And had not very much power and terrible gas mileage
This guy lol. Hey why we are at it we should bring back the model t engine
I have a 2023 Ram 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi. Love the overall performance and its overall been an excellent pickup. Super super smooth shifting and I haul 9000 lbs of hay with it all the time. The tranny never gets hot!! And the power is definitely not diesel power for pulling but it’s definitely no slouch. I’m really curious about how reliable the new Hurricane is going to be in the future. Great Vid!!!
Hope your channel takes off ! Appreciate your knowledge.
I hope so too
@@Trukstuf you are as fake as a plastic these motors are made out of. You sound like a freaking stalantis commercial. Everyone is starting to learn these motors are f****** junk.
The main issue with this new engine is the thermostat failures are blowing out head gaskets and warping the blocks and cylinder heads. Very cool motor lots of sensors and unique intake and liquid to air intercooler. Great content fun to watch
I’m excited for this definitely my next truck if it’s half as good as my wife 5.7 hemi truck I’ll be sold
I have to agree the 8HP transmission is phenomenal. It may be the best longitudinal RWD transmission in the world.
Agreed, great tranny
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Love the RHO setup. Amazing output
I’m very impressed with this new engine for Ram , I own a 2008 Ram with the 5.7 Hemi and the wife and I test drove a 2025 Ram with the 3.0 L i6 hurricane engine and we both were very impressed with the engine and how quick and quite it was. In my opinion I feel that this will be just as reliable as most modern trucks today. Can’t wait to buy ours in the spring.
Go drive a ford with ecoboost you will be very impressed
@ I owned a 2014 ford f150 with a 3.5 Eco Boost and I test drove a 2025 f150 stx with the 2.7 v6 Eco Boost engine and the 3.5 power boost and honestly like the 2025 Ram 1500 with the 3.0 i6 engine better. Ford f150 are awesome trucks a lot better than any Gm in my opinion. I think of pulling the trigger on a 2025 RAM
I own the new Laramie and I love this truck. I drove every damn truck out there for almost 6 months of research on what to get and IMHO, this truck kills them all....period. Incredible ride and power. Time will tell. If all good, I will do a buyout.
I ordered a 2025 RAM and opted for the tried-and-true Pentastar V6. I've already seen people reporting issues and trucks with their cabs off to fix broken shit. Never buy a first- or second-year new design. NO THANKS!
Wish you could get leather with that V6 .. maybe you can? But I think it’s only on the lower grade ones.
Let’s not forget the problems the Pentastar had its first couple years.
My buddies ‘23 Ram with the 3.6 is at the dealership getting all new rocker arms @ 30k. It’s crap shoot with any engine anymore.
The pentastar is junk as well...i can hear it eating the cams already.
3.6 Pentastar is a great motor. Do your oil changes and use OEM filters you’ll be good. 5.7 Hemi is a cam eater
You mean the 5.7 Hemi right?
It will be interesting to see how the longevity will be on this engine. Hopefully it will be better than the ecoboost engines that use the twin turbo engine. Anytime you make things more complex you loose reliability and longevity and repairs will obviously be much more than a normally aspirated engine.
That's so they make alot of money on parts and repairs.
Can't even check your oil without a computer, how is that a good thing...
@@theglitch99most of the people buying a 100,000 vehicle don't even know or understand why they need an oil change, so removing the dipstick but adding a screen that tells you it's full, is more pleasing to the customer.
@@Cwmills23If they want to add the oil sensor, that's fine. However, they should keep the oil dipstick too, for us old timers.
EcoBoost should be easy to beat😂
Had a 2.0 Turbo Hurricane in my Wrangler. It was amazing.
I have a 3.0L inline 6 engine with a single twin turbo (not a Stellantis engine). It's rated at 320hp. The only engine problems I had were a water pump, thermostat and the belt tensioner. Oh I forget to say it's 8 yrs old with 128k miles
I trust the Hurricane will fare as well as my engine.
Lets see how those turbo v6 are running 10 years from now. I guarantee they will all be in the junkyard while a n/a V8 will still be running
Exactly all bmw INLINE 6’s are in the junkyard yard after 10 years…totally don’t see them with good reliability ratings in the used car market
Inline 6 not a V6
I’ve been hearing your statement from many sources for a few years now. Logically thinking, it makes a lot of sense. But… there are hundreds of thousands? Million maybe, of turbo’d engines out there still going strong. My son has a 2011(might as well say 14 years old), turbo V6 FORD F150.
He bought it used at 100k 8 years ago.
Over 200k now, still running strong. It’s not an anomaly.
@@ptw2408 all those oldheads keep thinking this the early 2000’ and 90’s when that tech was just really entering the scenes…they won’t talk about the earlier generations of V8’s and all the help they caused later in the years
A lot of Hemi’s are not making it to the 10yr mark cams are wiping these motors out
i have a '24 obsidian wagoneer L with the high output, I have a 2020 Limited Ram 1500.
The hurricane has no issues moving the bus around, it feels good and all, but I prefer the feel of my truck with the V8
I was hoping for a more technical analysis than “time will tell”
when is the Ram 2025 heavy duty line up coming out? I'm excited to see it.
Wish I knew bud. Can’t wait to see it though
It will be interesting to see if these 3 liter engines make it into the Wrangler and Gladiator. I have a 2023 Gladiator with the 3.6, so far that engine has been fine. The ZF transmission is awesome in it. It's one of the biggest reasons why I traded my 3rd Gen Tacoma for a Gladiator.
It’s ZF or nothing. Best transmissions in the world.
This new engine, or any turbo-equipped engine, is worse than useless in any car going off road on Jeep trails, because the car is basically creeping along at little more than an idle, which means there is no exhaust gas flow into the turbo, which means the engine is just a 180-cubic inch straight 6 on natural aspiration, which means no power at all to the rear wheels. At one time a few years ago, Jeep Wranglers had an option of a 4-cylinder turbo engine The local Durango, Colorado Jeep dealer refused to even stock them, because all the Jeep trail people in the surrounding mountains would refuse to buy the vehicles with the 4-cylinder turbos. The 4.6 liter natural aspiration Wranglers did OK, because the cars came with geared-down running gear. Jeepsters have always wanted the 5.7 or 6.4 V8 hemi engine for off road Jeeping because they could creep along at low rpms and still make very good headway.
As someone who has owned two hemi Rams and one was tuned and the other had a pulsar on it my 2025 had so much more power and is a beast. I loved all my Rams, but the inline 6 is hands down the best motor so far. It has surprised me with the power it has for a heavy vehicle.
Look at all that beautiful plastic on that engine. Those hot turbos will make that plastic brittle in no time. I could have sworn I saw a plastic water pump.
Exactly
Don't hate
@@qbanlink25 not hating just speaking facts. Covered this engine in detail lol 😂
That's to keep you in the dealers shop replacing more cheap, shoddy planned Obsolescence parts.
@@TKsGaragearen’t you a BMW guy? 🧐 B58s are littered everywhere with plastic parts
I've had 4 Hemis and currently a '21 Ecodiesel, which has been wonderful knock on wood. In test driving a '25 Laramie Hurricane, I found it to be incredibly quiet and smooth, kind of the best of both worlds between Hemi and Eco. Not quite the low-end torque of the Eco, but much better than Hemi, but not the racecar feel of the Hemi. Hurricane I drove had no wheres the sporty feel of Ford's 3.0L in my Explorer ST, which isn't terribly lighter than a 1/2 ton truck. Guess Ram is more set up for the refined feel compared to Ford, which is notchier and snappier, which I like.
I bought a new Power Wagon. 6.4 l V8. Love it! We’ll see what happens after a couple years of the Hurricane.
Great video and may have questions about the 6.4 liter engine
lol 😂
‘2025 with the Hurri-Ken’…spoken like a true Utahn 😂
Excited to see what these engines do in the next generation Charger. Of course you won’t get the sound/rumble out of them compared to the Hemi, but they should put down some serious power once the aftermarket gets a hold of them.
PS- thanks again for taking care of my truck!
theyll put serious power down without the aftermarket. also stock they will be pretty maxed out, its only a 3.0 liter
I got a video on my channel I’m one of the first techs to replace a hurricane engine I did a tear down removing the cylinder head showing how bad it can get when these thermostats are failing which is a really common issue.
I have a very good friend, that me and him ,both Certified automobile technicians that has been in this industry for 33 years !! I work on my own self now !! But he is still active at the Dealership !! And his comment on these new Dodge/Stellantis TT Hurricane 6CYI engines is they are problems !! So far he said there has been about 30 of these new TT Hurricane 6CYI engines coming back to the Dealership with major problems !! And that's from customer's with construction company's , that use them as fleet vehicles !! Or your regular everyday customers, the drive them ,and problems that range, from ,headgaskets, plastic intake planets , oil pump failures , water pump failures camshafts failures, electronic engine oil dipstick failures , and the Crankshaft Snapping in half !! And he works in these Things for a living !! And he has work on alot of engines !! But he has said , to stay away from these new TT Hurricane 6CYI engines for now because it's just too many problems at once with them !!🤢🤢👎👎👎👎
I call BS on that. At our metro dealer we've seen zero hard part failures on the long block. Our issues have been fuel sensitivity related. If the 87 octane fuel isn't of excellent quality the engine derates in high ambient temps. The base engine has been rock solid though.
Unfortunately you must not get out much. There has been more problem. I know one personally didn't even had 1000 miles on it and they had to buy it back. The mechanics at the dealership hate seeing them come back in. @okcmoparguy724
No dipstick is moronic and so is the plastic thermostat that fails early and often and is on backorder everywhere.
My 911 doesn't have a dipstick. Porsche hasn't had one for the last 25 years.
@mikehertz6507 and most sensible people don't want a Porsche. Porsche is for people with more money than common sense. Porsche is for people who can just buy another car on a whim. Your average car owner wants something that they can maintain themselves for a reasonable price. Porsche doesn't fit that guideline, and neither does the Hurricane engine. The more dependent a vehicle is on electronics, plastics, and forced induction, the more unreliable it is. Plain and simple.
@@LeadStarDude strangely my 997 has had zero depreciation, rock solid reliability, most well balanced engine designed and handles like no other car. I take mine to the track, flog the shit out of it, then drive it home and wash it. No drama. Brakes and tires, that's it.
@@mikehertz6507you can't compare a Porsche to a crappy Dodge
What are your thoughts on the need for a catch can/oil separator for extending the longevity of these engines?
On this engine I’m not sure yet if there will be a need for one. As soon as they start coming in for service I can monitor that. If I see a need or benefit from having a catch can then I’ll make a video and post it
Wonder what the power is with the turbos removed.
Probably 0 hp cause the computers won’t let it start…
@@dgiturbo3247 Give the computers the necessary outputs then lets see the result.
I can turn my box fan on high and get that good of a sound. Get you a hemi brother
Great video Josh. How big of an issue are the thermostats on hurricane?
At our dealership our service department works in teams. Truck team, jeep team etc. I work on trucks and durangos only. I have not seen 1 truck come in for service yet so I don’t have an opinion to lean on. All I can say is that I am excited for this new engine and have high hopes for it. I have always been excited for new tech and new stuff. Otherwise I’d still be screaming for the Chevy 350 to make a comeback or the old hemis. But those engines could not keep up with the times and the result is they are only good for making bbq grills and boat anchors
@@Trukstuf i absolutely agree. I have always been a fan of inline 6 gas engines. This Hurricane is what i want in my next truck. Thanks for the review.
I just picked up a 2024 grand Cherokee 4xe. It now has 900 miles on it. It says I only have 20% oil left. Can that be right !?
I work in service at cdjr one of my concerns is the amount of heat that engine generates after a road test you can't even touch the PCM or any of the plastic under the hood it's so hot in these were after road tests on 30° days. I wonder how all that heat under that hood is going to affect modules and sensors I mean it gets hot
I've owned 5 Ram 1500's (2005 hemi, 2009 hemi, 2011 4.7, 2014 3.6, 2017 hemi). Been waiting for a new truck, but unimpresssed with Ram's newer engines. I've been a MOPAR guy for the last 2 decades, but never again. Too many problems with electrical/computer systems and motor, and most recently the electric power steering rack on the 2017 ($3000 for a MOPAR rack here in Canada, plus install and alignment). There are some small positives - the interior is the best in segment IMHO, and all my transmissions were fine. Sticking with Ford 5.0's when it's time to turn the 2017 over soon.
Thanks for sharing from Australia well done
I don't know when or what my next new will be but as a previous Hemi owner I look forward to any future insights you share with us, that new ram has my attention but I'm probably another year or two before pulling the trigger.
Me too, had a 240 in a big Ford and a 300 in a F150. Straight sixes are smooth, but forget the complexity and heat created by turbos. I don't know how we were even able to get down the road with only 150hp. Today if an engine doesn't put out 400+ hp this generation think it's underpowered. Just crazy.
How big is the fuel tank? gallons?
Would you recommend fitting a catch-can for the egr to stop the carbon build-up?
A few months back I bought a 2024 ram 1500 Laramie with a 5.7 hemi etourque because I did not want the 3.0 engine in the first year offered. And I’m very happy with it. What I don’t understand is why they don’t come with the mud flaps and front tow hooks. I’ve already installed them both right away.
What do you think about longevity of the seals over a natural aspirated engine. Also for us in the south where our summers are all triple digits, how do you think those engines will be effected versus the simpler v8s which run cooler and under no boost?
Josh, don't you think the Hemi valve gear problems could be somewhat solved by running 0w40 PAO or ester based oils? 5w20 seems to be giving poor results.
WOW amazing TY so much ,,Keep up the great work
What redundant system have they put in place in case of oil level sensor failure?
Yeah this made me scratch my head too …
@@JohnRayAllDaychange the oil within the recommended range or sooner. The inline six in a sedan I’ve had hasn’t had a dipstick since 2006. It’s not a big deal.
@@highoctaneadventure okay yeah that’s the general practice. But there are cases where an older vehicle might have an oil leak or burning oil. I owned a car like this when I was young. I would simply check the dipstick every few days to be safe and top it up. But in a situation like this (which is not that uncommon) and you got no dipstick .. if that sensor fails the engine is definitely getting oil starved and it’s done
@@JohnRayAllDayOh totally get it. The dipstick was definitely easier. My engine was notorious for burning through oil as well. I kept an eye on my driveway for leaks and the electronics gauge to see if my periodic top ups would show.
No dipstick: how do i check for possible contaminates , say some coolant mixing , catch it late at an oil change( assuming i do it)????
I’m guessing people aren’t using 5W-30 or 5W-40and not checking their coolant bottle enough and that’s why they’re having so much problems Or driving over 5000 miles between oil changes or not letting the engine cool down before shutting it off especially if it’s not water cooled the turbos that is
I’d like to see more videos like this of other models like the outgoing hemi etorque and your thoughts on that
Seen another ram/jeep tech have to pull the body off a Waggoneer because the thermostat had an issue and cooked this engine, and it needed to be replaced. I don't know what a shop would charge to pull a body off a waggoneer and then replace the i6, especially say living in the rust belt but I can't imagine it would be cheap.
Facts are these manufactures are starting to make these things like washing machines were you just throw the damn thing away as it il cost as much to fix as replacing it. Remember how in the 70's and 80's a washing machine was like a once every 20-year purchase. Now you should feel lucky if you get 5 years out of one, car manufactures are taking the same approach these days.
I had a 22 Ecodiesel and the truck itself was fine. I didn’t know about all the issues they were having with those engines when I bought it so I ended up going back to my Silverado. Since 2007 all I've had was Silverados. Never had a bit of trouble out of them. My 24 I have now while not a daily driver (I have a commuter car for work) it's been a great one so far AND it has a V8 not a pansy ass V6 I don't care they turbo'd it. Sounds like shit. Wouldn't have one. To each their own. Some may not care about sound. Many do though. And don't get us started with pricing smh
I wish they would've made a longer stroke Pentastar-like 3.5-4.0 liter straight 6 with dual injection naturally aspirated for super reliable and decently efficient base option. Probably 275-300 hp but with a better torque band than the current Pentastar. But I'm not an automotive corporate salesperson, I just watch a lot of videos of things going wrong to other people's over complicated engines.
If you boost a small 6 to do the job of a big 8, it's not going to last as long.
Turbo bearing lubrication by the engine oil is asking for a grenading engine. Bluetec showed us that.
The 35 eco-boost in the Fords have been terrific. I’m sure this engine work out just the same. It’s just a shame that general motors,RAM, and the imports took 10 years to adopt this technology.
hopefully with the new president coming in and new EPA boss they can cut that regulation stuff and get back to V8s and V6s. it was such a dumb idea the past few years of thinking they can just put a 4banger with a turbo in all these big trucks and SUVs and it not have crappy MPGs and less durability.
also maybe finally get rid of the DEF systems in diesels. just another thing that can go wrong and break down and cost people more money.
And get rid of EGR in diesels.
Exactly what I was thinking but in auto manufacturing 4 years of trump then what? Another environmentalists as prez, there's no guarantee there for manufacturing
Stellantis is a global manufacturer. They could care less if Dodge even exists
my father inlaw just got a 2025....it huals ass....the thermostat issue has me worried tho...he also stated that's one of the downfalls...but its a beutiful truck and fast as hell..5xx Hp in a truck is just insane.
I love my FAF EV instant torque and no shift points.
Do you suggest the 25 Ram 1500 with Hurricane engine. Looking at getting my wife one.
No lol and I'm a 35 year Chrysler master tech
Reminds me of the ford raptors and the turbo engines. Not really efficient imo just looks good on paper but will break in the real world. Great video thank you for sharing
Do you think ram will recall 5th gen cummins trucks for a flat tappet swap in 2025 when the new truck is released? Or would they lose too much money?
As a recall it won’t happen as recalls only apply to safety. It could come as a rapid response transmittal or tsb. The frequency I have seen of failure is outrages and I’m sure Stalantis is working on something.
@@Trukstufwhat does that mean? If something happens will my 2023 Cummins get the swap for free with this tsb ?
It would be covered as long as your power train warranty is still valid
@@Trukstuf got it going to hold off on a aftermarket swap and deletes (racing purposes) I got 30k miles on powertrain warranty
Just found you. Great video. Subbed!!!
Welcome aboard! And thank you!
Took BMW 3 tries to get turbo inline 6 right. Lets see if Stellantis can get it right in 2 tries.
When you got on the throttle early in the video, every internal part on the engine was screaming in pain, the blood pressure soared, it started seeing stars, and it almost blacked out. Turbocharged vehicles should only be owned by enthusiasts who understand how they work and how important it is to keep up with oil and coolant changes as well as operating for long life such as idling to cool the turbos after sustained high speed driving. Once these are out of warranty, we will find out how well made they are. If repairs exceed 40% of the value of the whole truck, it is totaled.
I saw that the thermostat housing breaks and the part is on back order till next year?
I’m sure the back order is a result of waiting for redesign. Very inconvenient for those who have their vehicles in for this issue and not being able to drive them.
@@Trukstufinconvenient is not strong enough of a word. I would not make payments on a car the dealer could not fix and I could not drive.
That engine is already POS, all plastic, intercooler next to block, tstat issues, head gasket issues, overheating problems, same mpg as hemi, less mpg when towing... tell them the truth master tech guy...
The video i watched yesterday showed gas mileage of 17.9 mpg on the 3.0. My hemi in my 22 Ram averaged 23.4 mpg. Not the same.
My 5.7 2020 Ram Big Horn averages 17.2 with city and highway. If I just drive on the highway for long drives I get 19.5 to 20. Now when I actually use it as a truck and pull stuff, of course it drops to 8 to 14 mpg lol
The Internet is literally packed with dudes exaggerating their mpg's
🎯 NAILED IT
NA, V8, 48V (no eTorque), Hybrid (no cylinder deactivation, engine is either on or off) is the answer.
i like the idea of SST but i need to see how it fairs over a few years in the Ram trucks. some say “it’s been in jeeps for years already” yes, it has but some platforms just seem to be plagued with issues. time will tell how this switch does, and two years in jeeps is not a long time. let’s see how this does in the next 8 years.
i’m not a bitter-clinger to my 5.7 but the trans is great, the engine is not much to go wrong other than a couple things. The SST is a complex engine so there’s more to fail. call me a pessimist. and turbo “lag” is an older concern and with new tech, it’s not really a thing anymore.
Stellantis needs to hire some of these shade tree mechanics/engineers on here that comment seemingly knowing how everything could be so much better and reliable. Funny how people commenting on here can see in the future like Nostradamus….
Right on. These know-it-all keyboard mechanics must have missed their calling in life.
How will these things hold up after some miles?
It’s a great idea. Too bad Tavares ruined it with poor after thought design and sub standard parts.
Luckily I didn’t pay either time other than a rent a car. But if there is a better alternative I’ll go that route. I’m still hesitant about the new motor.
It has a lot of potential, once all the initial bugs and problems get worked out. Or IF it gets worked out. Stellantis isn't exactly showing they are beacons of quality the last few years.
Hoping they are reliable. Let’s see
Can’t you change the pipes and make it louder?
Ram's 5.7 hemi needed to go as it was outclassed in the truck world by virtually every engine from every other manufacturer.
The sad thing is that even though the hurricane engines are good on paper...we need to remember that they are from Stellantis and need much more development.
Ram is trying to sell low-end products at premium prices...a recipe for failure.
Our company had banned the rental of Kia and Hyundai due to several being stolen while we rented. Now we've had to add Jeeps to the ban as we've had too many of our people stranded by breakdowns.
get it in so the dealer can see if there is a problem or if it’s a software flash
He nailed it right away, hopefully reliable, lol. It won't be at all the Hemi is proven and can go 300k miles.
I think every company is just throwing out different engines and we are the test dummies to see which one breaks down first over price it so they can make adjustments for the f ups
It's sound terrible like a quiet sunny day not hurricane for sure
Stay away from anything Stellantis.
How do you determine if your oil is dirty?
What color is the oil?
There is no current technology measuring dirt in oil.
They can only guess based on a formula.
The computer would never know if I put poor quality gasoline in the tank, and therefore contaminating the engine oil
Simple change the shit every 3K
@chris6743 How much is this engine?
It's probably not cheap
I want the option to check my oil
I have full faith that the Stellantis engineers have the skill to engineer in a dipstick.
So the operator can check the quality of the oil as well as the level. And check for coolant contamination.
This should have been an opportunity for Stellantis to build something 2JZ-like. Tuneable without needing mods.
there are only two dealers in my area. both want huge markups for these bad boys. (one wants $5000 and the other one wants $7500) do other dealers ask such ridiculous markups for RAM trucks these days?
formula One cars are designed so that the mechanics can take the engine apart using just a few different size tools, to save time.
on the flipside, on a Honda, GL 1800 Goldwing motorcycle, you better have a system for keeping track of all of the different length fasteners when you are changing the air filter, which will take six hours according to the flat rate manual. At a labor rate of $130 an hour at the dealer. The labor alone will cost you $780 just to change the air filter on the goldwing.
I thought that was ridiculous when I heard that on the Internet, until I did the job myself. That’s a fair price. if you have your dealer change your air filter every 10,000 miles on your home to Goldwing, when you reach 100,000 miles, you will have spent nearly $8000 just in labor for changing the air filter 10 times, plus parts, plus shop materials, plus disposal fee, plus tax.. it would certainly be a quicker job if there was a standardization of the fastener sizes and lengths,
since there is no dipstick to check the oil, what kind of system is ram using to notify the driver that the oil is getting low? Oil pressure sending unit indicating a low oil pressure situation?
or are they going to use sensors to warn the driver that the oil level is low before there’s a drop in oil pressure? That’s the way Yamaha has been doing it since the early 1980s on their motorcycle engines in their ventures. They warn you that your level is getting low before you have a drop in oil pressure which could be too late to prevent damage at times.
back in 1982 one Honda introduced the CX 500 turbo motor cycle available to the public. That turbo was the size of a dime and it reached over 100,000 RPMs. that was over 40 years ago.saab used to turbos way back when also. There was a precaution you had to take with turbos. When you pull up, let’s say to a gas station off of the Interstate, you could not just shut the key off and get out to get gasoline, you had to sit there for maybe 30 seconds to allow the turbo to spool down. because if you just shut the key off, the engine stops, so does the oil pump, but that turbo is still spinning and extremely high RPMs at times. So you have to keep supplying it with oil till it slows down..
5:52 European cars haven't had dip sticks for 10 years. Most transmissions haven't had dipsticks for 15 years or more.
Can you tell me if I'm okay to run 3/4 oil level vs 7/8 level in my 2025 Ram 1500 hurricane i6?.. also I'm only around 26 PSI at idle... It never goes over 30 psi when I'm running it..am I ok at those levels?
Don't know about longevity, but I've driven these, and they're pretty sweet.
No more Dodge products for me! Bought a new 2001 Ram 1500 4WD extend cab and it was the worst vehicle I ever owned. After 2 years the whole top of the dash crumbled and caved in leaving a hole you could fit a small child in and at 49 thousand miles the transmission gave up the ghost and again at 100 thousand miles. The body rusted so bad that it actually whistled when driving down the highway from all the rust holes in the body and every 2 years the water pump had to be replaced. FInally sold it for junk and went and bought the wife a New 2021 KIA Sorento X-Line prestige with the 2.5 turbo and so far no problem with it and she loves it. Stay away from Dodge and Chrysler they're all junk!