TRAPPING CODLING MOTH to eliminate worms in apples and pears
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- How to Trap Codling Moth using a simple trap and a simple secret recipe. Codling moth is the insect that is responsible for wormy fruit. Trapping them is easy and effective to greatly reduce damage to your fruit (apples and pears).
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Drill through the neck not the cap. That way you can remove the cap for filling. Thanks for the info. I will be making a couple of these immediately.
did it work? im in CT and my pears are infested
Just this week I was looking for a natural solution to this problem. I love this! Thank you so much, Stefan, you're always so timely, and accurate in your video posts.
It will not work
I tried it
Don't waste your time
Thanks for posting this. I have seen these hanging in your orchard and I always wondered what they were. This is a game changer for anyone with fruit trees. And bee friendly.
Glad it was helpful!
I planted 6 apple trees in my back yard. I've been learning a lot here. Thanks!
Thank you for the tip. May I add a stacking tip. when draining the oil bottles do so into a bucket of sand that you can use to rut prof your tools between uses.
hi where can i find molasses?
Went out today to pick unripe apples that had fallen, as you had advised in one other video. Very disappointed to notice that almost all the apples (fallen ones and those still on the trees) are diseased. There are only 6 apple trees in the garden--five old ones planted by previous owner(s) of the property, plus one young tree which I planted 2 years ago. Not many unblemished apples, not even on the young tree! So, next summer it will be spraying with whey (if I can get my hands on some over here in a small Finnish town), making fly traps (the ones with the red dots), and coddling moth bottles!! Thank you for all the information. I'm learning a lot.
We had beautiful trees in our large yard in the suburbs they started to get wrinkled leaves and became sick some had to be cut down, didn't realize what it was until a hole started out of nowhere in the yard, my mother not being too educated on home care thought we had city sewage turns out we had a septic tank and the leech lines had been leaking (which is what they are supposed to do when the tank is overflowing) and for sometime too! Since we never had the thing serviced over a 15 year period!! Sewage kills fruit trees. Just a heads up for anyone new to that too.
Oh that happened to a large apple tree that is unowned in a nearby field. I attempted to wrap organza bags on the young apples one year but found the apples all rotten and fallen and not a single apple can be eaten. That is when I learnt about codling moths. Oh please use other methods rather than whey. Whey is from animal milk? The poor calves are suffering cos their mothers' milk is stolen for us human... please dont use whey :( xx
Last two years, I used thick cardboard to wrap around the trunks of my two young apples trees and smeared with vaseline, to prevent any codling moth larva from making their way up the trees if there were any in the ground. So far i got great apples. Maybe they havent come to my garden yet but I really want to prevent them from coming. Your video is so helpful. Isn't molasses quite expensive?
20 litres (5 gallon) bucket $40 animal feed grade.
Your channel is amazing. I planted my first apple trees this year. All the new leaves have been eaten by tiny green caterpillars. Do you have a video about that and what I can do to avoid this next year? I’m in NW France.
This will help for all caterpillars. Adding nest boxes for small birds especially tits will help a lot. They love the green caterpillars. You have some fantastic resources in France: Conservatoire végétale régionale d’Aquitaine, GRAB, and INRA
Very interesting points about the degradation of different coloured bottles! Maybe the colours made a difference. The sun's UV and heat are what degrade the bottles. Interesting the black lasted since black should absorb the most heat. I was actually just wondering today what clothes colour - dark or light are best for sun protection. And then I heard your interesting feedback about the coloured bottles. :)
Hi, the show you done away I absolutely loved it. I always make my own yogurt and I'm going to start using the way from the yoga to spray my trees. Thank you so much for that video
The Utah State University shows somthing similar but they add the molasses to warm water with some yeast. For some reason the Yeast amplifies the attraction
Yes it does, can use beer as well.
hi where can i find molasses??
any grocery store will carry molasses.
I'm absolutely going to try these!!!❤❤❤
Thank you for sharing, it will be a very helpful in my garden. God bless.
I decided to use yellow cornstarch containers and make a two in one codling moth/apple maggot fly trap. Thank you for the inspiration 😊
Did I miss the proportions you use? How much molasses to how much water please? THANK YOU for these great tips.
1:1
Would this also help with peach twig borers? And maybe squash vine borer moths? And does it work better than those lures, (that I have had much success with)?
Love your videos and simple solutions. Love watching you loving your work.
The first 10 seconds of this video made my week!!! Thank you ❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
"The only thing worse is finding half a worm" LOL. Hey, protein is protein.
Half worm so where is the other half ? Muppet
Thank you! Going to try it. Wonder if it works on peach worms.
If peach worm is a moth as adults then yes.
I have no fruit trees as yet, but this is great for future reference. Thank you, Stefan
I lost all of my apples last year. I wasn't able to spray the trees, or so I thought, and both trees were loaded with fruit....and worms. Going to give this a try this year, and I sprayed hort oil/copper.
Update: My hanging traps are loaded with moths....It's moth soup....
Hi Stefan, Thank you for making this video on codling moth worm control. I will give it a shot.
Going to try this method this year on my apple and pear trees. Thank you for making video.
Excellent video. Definitely going to try them for my gala tree and Granny Smith. The moths are a pain. Thank you for all the details.
omg you are you such a generous person!! thank you so much! does this replace those sticky red balls and pheromone lures?
Trapping Apple Maggot Fly coming up this summer hopefully.
Wish I had seen this earlier in the year. My Blenheim Orange and Cox's Orange Pippin has got them.
Perfect timing, this year I'm getting those worms out of my apples!
Thanks, Stefan! This is exactly why I'm here.
This video was fun to watch! I’m definitely going to try this next season
What is the ratio of molasses to water? Also, how much solution do you put into each empty oil container?
Thank you for sharing a simple solution
1:1, 1-2” of solution
The black one's probably have carbon black in them, and carbon black absorbs violet light.
The only thing worse than finding a half of worm in an apple is finding a quarter of a worm.
I like it. I was looking at spraying but I only have 1 apple tree so this will be much better. Can't wait because I love these apples I just don't know what kind it is. The tree was fully producing since 1971 when my parents bought the place, the fruit is green with red stripes later, harvest in sept, sweet but tart, large with fairly thick skin, eats and bakes well both. Best apples I've ever had. I found out they are probably Gravensteins. I'm finding Codling moths(I think) in the homemade traps but don't know if I'm getting all. Time will tell.
I wonder if we can make a mini one with recycled Aluminum soda cans.
Certainly would work.
Thank you. Definitely going to try this!
Great video. I picked up some oil containers and some molasses yesterday. I’ll be putting out my traps tomorrow.
Can you tell me what kind of grafting knife that you use?
Thanks Stefan! Did I miss the detail of how much molasses to how much water? i.e. What is the ratio to use for trapping codling moth? Thank you!
Now I see the ratio was in the very beginning! Thanks again.
1:1
Sorry what is molassis? Not sure. Thank you.
I may have missed this, but when is the best time to set these traps? Once apples are small and started to grow or earlier?
My tree is presently in bloom and I am finding moths everywhere, already! I am doing it now. I just found about a dozen in my patio umbrella and another bunch under row covers in the hoop tunnel. The warm weather has brought them out before the tree is even setting fruit.
Have the traps out by petal fall.
Was really hoping this method would work. I used a modified recipe from another place, but only addition to this forumla was Dawn dish soap to keep them from escaping. I can smell it, so maybe that's enough to deter them. I have caught zero moths in the 2 months it's been up. No organic pest control ever works for me (except sticky bands around trunk vs ants).The petroleum jelly over tennis balls is a fail, too. And whatever bugs don't ruin, squirrels destroy. Just today pulled up 15 apples from ground, and I always keep fruit off ground. Back yard fruit trees really are more work than worth. The idea is lovely, but everything else gets it, not the owner.
Sorry to hear that. I would keep out the dish soap.
Hi Stefan you know so much about gardening, and I love your videos especially the (Indicator?) ones
and was wondering if you have any idea's for white curl grubs, my veggie garden is full of them and
they eat the roots of everything I plant. I live in Australia
Usually there are animals that relish them. We have skunks, raccoons and birds that hit an area hard for a day and deplete them. You likely have some digging animal and birds that prove with their beak (starlings here). Just seek to encourage them. Otherwise there are nematodes as organic control for grubs.
@@StefanSobkowiak Thanks for replying back, the only birds I
have here are black birds, but as they were digging up my garden and seedlings and plants destroying the roots, and making a mess I had to cover everything with bird netting. so I guess the only option I have are nematodes, thanks
CHICKENS!!!!
Just lost a crop of fruits. Pears and plums all full of single worms
I am going to try this. I have to get the containers
I’m learning so much from your channel. I help pollinate with my bees but the growing part is so interesting.
Now I need to find a place that will be large enough and sunny enough to start growing fruits
Don’t you just love autocorrect?
@@Skashoon Just saw it. I'll edit.
Wonderful!
thanks for posting, I use 2 or 4 L juice plastic containers. Do you find the molassis water mix catches Oriental Fruit Moth? OFM are devasting my peach trees. I have to pick the peaches before they go slightly soft.
What is the ratio to the water and molasses. I only have 3 apple trees a one pear tree.
1:1 water to molasses
THANKYOU!
doing this.
Excellent video - thanks!
Perhaps a dual benefit of trapping those annoying wasps which could make holes in the fruit as it ripens ? However a potential downside that it traps other beneficial pollinators like bees, hoverflies etc ?
Very rarely, I’ve seen one bee in 20 years. Wasps rarely.
Great video as always. I need your advice please. I have a small plum tree I bough three years ago and this year I noticed the leaves are shiny and covered with sticky substance. Is is aphids doing this or something else. I value your guidance, you are definitely an expert. I live I Toronto and a big fan of your videos
Sounds like aphid honeydew (aphid poo!). Cut off fertilizer for one season.
I'm off to my mechanic to ask for some bottles :) :0 Thank you Stefan! The other video I saw used a 2 litre British plastic milk bottle!! From what you say it will degrade fairly quickly. I only have ONE small tree! Most of the apples were infested last year :/
Then use two or three to get as many as possible when they emerge. Put up just as petals begin to fall.
Sir, how can I cure bacterial spot from my 3 peach trees? My apple tree has brown leaf spots but I am not sure what that is.
Look up my whey video.
Black plastic is more UV stable than white - has added chemicals to make it UV resistant. White PVC will not last long in sunlight.
Great tip and Thank You!!!!!!!
Hi Stefan, have you ever made a video about your sprayer setup with multiple nozzles for whey? It it home made?
Yes partly home made. Using a lawn tractor spray tank, I added the boom, pipe and nozzles.
My grandma always hung a bottle of beer with a few drops of dish soap from her handful of apple trees. Her apples were always perfectly untouched by bugs.
Do you have any advice about pear saw flies? Last year was the first year I saw them and just picked them off by hand since I only have four young pear trees but they are getting bigger and it's going to be harder to find them all.
Perhaps earwigs are a good predator but certainly birds love all larvae. Try adding some nest boxes.
And why can't you unscrew the caps of your bottles to fill them? Why do you need to do so using the large hole? May I know how big are the holes you made for codling moth to enter? And I noticed you use 'he' for the moth... is it he or she? hehe :)
We run the attaching wire through the cap since it’s sturdier.
Awesome tip! Thanks! Would you be able to use honey instead of molasses?
No it will attract too many bees and wasps.
@@StefanSobkowiak oh yeah that makes sense haha. Thank you Stefan! Did some grafting and trios this year and had some success! Thank you for the inspiration! Your DVD and videos have been a big help. Much love from NY
@@StefanSobkowiak ... and otherwise, never too many wasps (or bees)...
@@timbushell8640 Good tip on ATTRACTING BEES for other fruiting plants needing pollination. Thanks.
I am back watching this because it is spring in my country. The holes on the bottle look much bigger @1:37. You mentioned 1/4" holes are good enough but are you saying the diameter of the holes are just 1/4"? @1:25 the picture of the moth shows it's average length is 10mm, i assume it's the body length? How about its body width? As its body width determine if it can pass through the holes we make at the sides of the bottle right? Thanks so much again!
Correct. We originally made the holes too big and still have many of those traps which we use. Since then we've made them with the smaller holes, to trap less of other non target species.
I have worms in my apples and prunes. Can I hang transparent bottles wirh molasses and water solution? Can i replace molasses with sugar syrup?
Not sure a sugar syrup would work.
How do you deal with plum curculio beetle? They have infected every apple on my tree. And my peach tree is damaged by peach tree borer. Im about to give up on having fruit trees in my garden. (fire blight took out my young pear tree)
Plum curculio is my final frontier. The last one I have not been trapping. There are large traps used for research for them but nothing small and inexpensive.
great tacnic .
Hi Stefan, my two apple trees are only 4 years old and very short, about 70cm tall (2.5feet) and both are planted 1.5 feet apart). I am guessing one trap is sufficient but since they are so short, I can't figure out the upwind and downwind part. Can I just hang the trap on a random branch? Thanks.
That size yes
I know it wouldn't be practical for you, but I read online a person said so spread worm castings around the trees. Seems to work to prevent the moths or larvae from going to the tree. I only have 4 apple trees so along with the molasses trick I might try that too. Any ideas if that might work?
Always worth a small test, as long as you run a comparison without, so 2 with, 2 without.
So is there a mixture rate or do I just do like 2 water to one molasses or???? I can't tell from your bucket how much molasses you add to the water
Yes one water to one molasses.
would there be any benefit to adding a small amount of apple cider vinegar to the molasses and water mix, just to add some apple scent to help attract the moths?
Maybe but it may attract more flies. Test it and let me know.
Will you discuss which apples cross pollinate for the home gardener with only a couple trees?
Look at orange pippin website. Or get a crab apple tree like John Downie or Evereste as they will pollinate almost anything
I am sure there are varieties not here, but this should help...
www.acnursery.com/resources/pollination-charts/apple-chart
What ratio of Molasses to Water do you use?
1:1
Could molasses be substituted with sugar and water only? Thanks!
Not sure, I never tried it. There is something about molasses that has a smell that attracts.
Thank you, very helpful.
Glad to hear it!
I have four peach trees that have peach leaf curl. Would the way help with the peach leaf curl too? If you could send me a comment saying yes or no would be appreciated
Yes, since peach leaf curl is a fungal disease.
When do you start hanging the bottles up to trap them? Thank you.
At petal fall.
Hi. You don't mention when you would put these traps out. We live in SW France.
At the end of apple bloom as petals begin to fall.
Hi Stefan, @0.36 the recipe is 1 part water and 1 part molasses. Wow I am finding the molasses is very thick to work with and adding just 1 part water to it makes it still a very thick substance. I just want to confirm that it is really equal parts of water and molasses? Thanks.
Yes 1:1, you probably can dilute a little more but it works well at this concentration.
@@StefanSobkowiak Hi hi Stefan... after one week, I notice the molasses water is growing mold and floating on it. Does that happen to your bottles?
Hi Stefan, can you please help? Did not expect mold grows in the molasses solution haha.
I do see some, i think it forms around certain insects since it does not happen in many traps but does in some. Needs further research (trap colour, liquid temperature, insects in traps, ...)
Dear Stefan, I excitedly rushed off last spring and made up your mixture, put it in a large 2litre milk container and hung it in my 4 year old Kidds Orange apple tree. It didn't work, though i might have the wrong diagnosis . . . all the new leaves shrivelled up (insects in the middle?), there were lots of brown spots in the flesh; the apples shape was smaller and distorted. I'm still struggling to know what to do to get a good crop of apples (sigh).
Iona UK
Did not work for us either. The traps caught lots of insects (no bees, though so it is selective that way). Did not see any codling moths in the casualties, but every single one of the hundreds of apples were infected.
Will resort to bagging fruit.
This trap is for codling moth larva, you can easily see them in the core of the apple if they are the culprit. Timing is important, install at petal drop. It does nothing to leaves (sounds like you have aphids due to excess fertilizer or imbalanced fertility). Not sure what the brown spots in the flesh were from in UK (here it often means you had hail and it left bruises). Add some wood chip mulch under the tree (it will absorb some of the excess fertility) and gather fallen fruit regularly.
Do bees get caught in the traps?
One in twenty years with hundreds of traps a year.
Thank you for the excellent video. I am going to try on my apple tree. I am not able to eat a single apple from my tree for last 4 years because of codling moth. Do you have any tips for peach curly leaf disease ?
A couple of traps per tree should dramatically decrease the damage. Make sure to check the levels weekly and add water as needed.
Sorry no help for peach leaf curl other than whey and disease resistant peach cultivars.
What time of the season do you put them out if your in coastal BC?
Right after bloom
We live in the PNW and have plenty of Coddling Moths in our fruit trees (we only have two apple and two pear trees). Everything I've looked at says this is only the first step to treating the problem. Do you do anything else later in the season? And if so, can you give me a link to search for your other videos? (I just happened to find this, so not familiar yet).
Traps, birds over winter and wasps in summer.
Never heard him give details of how much of molasses or water mix!??
50:50, half molasses half water. Only add water as needed to refill.
What type of molasses are you using, have you tried the different grades, light, dark, and blackstrap. Im having problems finding in bulk, our local ag stores dont sell in liquid form, they sell dried, but its a 40% blend. Can you tell what specifically your using, thanks
I don’t even know there are grades. It’s likely the darkest, least expensive since it’s sold for animal feed. Comes liquid, didn’t know it can be sold dried.
What proportion of molasses to water?
Do the ants get into them?
No
I planted 2 pear trees this spring , one is an Asian pear that had many pears when I bought it. After planting it I noticed black spots on the leaves so I pulled the leaves off. Now I noticed that the pears are not growing and drying up. Can you tell me what is wrong?
You took off their solar collectors. I would pull off the pears on a newly planted tree. The fruit stresses the plant since it hasn’t settled in yet.
@@StefanSobkowiak thank you I will do that.
Re the water - is it equal parts water to molasses? I definitely need this control in my trees.
Yes 1:1
Hi Stefan, thanks for sharing this trap, I'll try it today. You mentioned wasps also help keep down the moth population. I like most wasps and bees, but every few days we get a visit from some huge wasp/hornets. I suspect it's Vespa crabro or one of the Asian hornet species. They are over an inch long and they sound really really loud, they look scary too. Any idea how we could control those without harming the smaller bees and wasps?
Watch what they eat. I suspect they prefer to eat large caterpillars. I know the videos show them eating bees but wasps preferred food is caterpillars. The bigger the wasp the bigger the caterpillars they catch. Observe then act if necessary.
@@StefanSobkowiak thanks we'll keep an eye out
Stefan, new subscriber here 👋 new at fruit trees. I have a semi dwarf yellow and semi dwarf red something. They are roughly 7' tall. The red grew a massive number of little apples so I thinned them way back, but the yellow only produced two and very few blossoms. (First year setting fruit since planted in 2021)
Also my first experience with coddling moth damage. None of the fruit was salvageable. I only sprayed once not knowing what I was doing, and it was after all blossoms fell. I really want these trees to do well and I understand you have honey locust planted as a nitrogen fixer. My baby apple trees are approximately 20' apart. Can you recommend another nitrogen fixer tree that might survive planted between the two? Hubby isn't keen on anything with Locust in the name. We're in Eastern Washington 22 miles up from the Columbia River. If that helps. And thank you for any input. Loved this video and am getting ready to watch your others.
Wonderful you got started. I think alder are native to your area and can take heavy pruning. Sounds like the red might be a crab apple. Don’t worry about how quickly they will fruit, some can take 5 years. Look up my codling moth video for an easy trap. Put two per tree at petal fall and it should help. Add some bird feeders with sunflower seeds the birds will seek out wintering codling moth.
@@StefanSobkowiak thank you! Have been bringing in many birds but going to follow your suggestion of bird houses too, and include the cardboard trunk wrap for the climbers. Should I include the pastey goo that gets painted in, as well?
Not needed, just remove the cardboard once or twice during the season and burn, don’t compost it or they’ll emerge.
Never had a worm in my fruit but will keep this in mind when I found one. To be honest it is so ugly to see those oil cans hanging between al these beautiful trees...
True not the nicest but a lot nicer than finding a whole lot of fruit with worms. Spraying insecticide is NOT an option. Tradeoffs. I guess I should plant more flowers to attract the eye.
I was thinking camouflage painting the unsightly oil containers since I like creative projects and don’t have many trees. Probably start with one to see if it’s worth the effort.
In the Pacific Northwest we have apple maggot fly. Do you think or know if this will work for our pest?
Video on trapping AMF should come out this summer.
Where do you find such large amounts of molasses?
The local farm feed store.
Stephan, would asparagus be good under growth between fruit trees
You can try it, I have several but prefer to harvest from an asparagus bed.
When and how do you clean out all the dead moths from the traps?
We empty and clean out traps at the end of season.
What ratios of water and molasses do you use?
About 35 seconds in he indicates a 1 to 1 mixture of water and molasses. It is easy to miss it.
@@dannave7816 Oh Thank you Dan!!!!!
When do we hang these bottles? After flowers?
Yes at petal drop.
Can they go in blueberry's I've got caterpillars in them say one in 30 blueberry's.?cheers
Worth a try, they attract most any moth.
When is the best time to put out these traps? And wouldn't they also harm the pollinating bees since the bees are also attracted to sweet molasses?
Very few bees captured, put out at petal fall.
@@StefanSobkowiak Ok, thanks.
If I accidentally consumed some small coddling moth worms from eating an apple, is that bad or harmless?
They’re probably healthy protein.
Do bees get drowned?
Why not drill only small holes & fill through screw cap
Nothing to attract bees.
@@StefanSobkowiak so sugar in water doesn't attract them?
Maybe sugar in water would but molasses is quite different. Yes its full of sugar but also minerals and will ferment. It would be nice to know why bees dont respond to it the same way as sugar.
The oil container capacity is 1 liter?
Yes, or a quart sized one.
Thank you so much my apples are really infested so hopfly next year I'll have lovly apples 🍎
If you trap next year it will reduce the population but it really takes 2 years to get the level down to low. You also will need to pick up the drops to prevent reinfection.
Does it have to be sugar molasses or can it be beet molasses as here in Germany you can't get sugar molasses and should it be sulfur free?
Beet molasses should work, it’s the sugar fermentation that attracts them.
@@StefanSobkowiak OK, thanks.
Then could you use fermented apples or apple vinegar or other fermented fruit or beer?
Probably not, if they are already fermented they won’t ferment again. Try it.
What is the mixing ratio of water and molasses?
50:50
Have you tested the efficacy of your trap system with other known trapping methods? What is the CM count per trap? How are you determining CM pressure has decreased in your orchard(s)?
We measure number of affected fruit per 100. No comparison with other trapping systems. We need to get a student to do a simple trap count and species diversity count.
Thank you.
It doesn't work and complete waste of my time