Enduro vs SB165 vs Slayer vs Force 29 vs Mojo HD5 | Pinkbike Field Test
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Five bikes started, four bikes finished. Which bike would you choose?
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4:24 "I'm sure someone will prove me wrong and come out with a 190mm single crown bike"
RockShox- "hold my beer" (the zeb)
I was the thinking exactly that when he said it.
I just came to check if anyone commented thid
Jason has gotten way better at mounting biking since that girl from his office beat him.
She would still probably crush me... :( - Jason
@@pinkbike Loved that video. I started biking when it was uploaded :)
@@pinkbike Jason, we love you so much! If we won't see you with Matt at least once in 3 months, we would be heartbroken :-( Mahalo, my dude!
High iq comment
@@horvathszovatiandras5959 same
Awesome that the enduro did well. Now give us a 140-150 version of it (redesigned stumpy) with evo geo
yes please
Apparently they crack quicker than a Dried river bed !
I'd be curious how the Kona Process 153 stacks up against that crowd. I'm guessing it's more of a freeride bike vs enduro racer, but what if you want to do both! That Enduro is getting glowing reviews everywhere, smashing job Specialized.
they did one last year, i reccomend it
Too bad about the Slayer. That was the bike I was curious the most as, for the rest, I had no doubts or questionmarks.
There had to be a defect. I've ridden 3 new slayers, and all of them felt like tanks. I did a 6ft huck to flat on a carbon 70, and it was like a 2ft drop on a normal bike. Absolutley fine. I wouldn't worry about the reliability of the slayer ( :
Captain Traction I went ahead and bought a C90 27.5 Slayer anyway and it’s absolutely incredible. There’s no way the failure wasn’t the result of human error. The dropouts are enormous. Storch and Vanderham are thrashing the shit out of these bikes without issue.
@@jefferyharmon5290 how do you like the 27.5? I havent ridden one of those yet
The bike is super fast!
@@jefferyharmon5290 why did you go with 27.5 over 29?
how to buy a mountain bike is actually the video that influence me to biking hahahaha
Strong selection of bikes! I’d love to see a Nukeproof mega in the mix
The Trail Trawler Seeings how Kazimer has a Mega 290 for his main test bike, he could probably comment pretty easily on some of the differences.
rpiian oh nice. Yeah it would be cool to see the differences. I have a carbon Mega 275 but haven’t tried any of the bikes in question to compare
I'd like to see DH category here too. Especially Commencal supreme DH29 vs new demo 29, santa cruz V10 etc.
Yea, “Pinkbike Park Test”
And the canyon Sender aswell
I know pinkbike tested each of these bikes separately, but it would be nice to see them all in one place at the same time, with control tires for timed laps.
Useless if you don't live at the bike-park gates. If you want to do real mtb-ing, enduro is the effin'(and only) way.
@@eugenux dh is the realest mtb there is haha.
Really appreciate the testing on these bikes and reviewing them. It helps me know what bike i want to buy next.
How does the Enduro compare to the Stamina 180?
good question, I imagine it is lighter since its carbon (maybe a kilo less), and sure, less travel, but really both are really similar in geo and purpose, maybe the Stamina is more downhill oriented because of the slightly more aggressive geometry and more travel (also, 7074 aluminium is almost indestructible in bike form) and The Specialized Enduro is more of an all-rounder. But really both are great choices, comes down to terrain, preference and intent. Wanna race? pick the Enduro, Wanna bike park? Stamina , Wanna do both? well they are interchangable. The differences are not very big so both will do well in any terrain.
Great reviews and analysis of the Enduro bike category.
A few brands are evolving to 157mm drop outs and plus size tires and rims are definitely an advantage. Also many are doing the mixed wheel size bikes.
I’m looking forward to more of your reviews
As like any bike review everyone wants to compare this bike or that bike to the ones tested. Rather than test bikes with the same travel test bikes with the same suspension curves, geo and then travel. The enduro is the clear contender against the SB150, Megatower, Ripmo, firebird etc.. All of yetis bikes are listed "for fun" except for the SB150 which is listed for "racing". While you can race any bike there are certain characteristics that make a bike a race bike... I agree with others that we can do better than this in reviews
"How to be a Mountain Biker" inspired me so much since i first watched it! :-) Still riding my trusty old, upgraded 2014 Specialized Enduro Comp 26! Served me well. Kudos guys! \m/
Nate hill already put a dual crown on the yeti
The guy with the Boxxer and the Rockshox Coil?
What about the Giant Reign Sx 29?
29ers are gay.
@@professorchaosX94 say that to the world cup and world champ winners in enduro and dh. Wait, include XC on that too! 🤣
Giant 🤢🤮
Giant blows ass.
-previous reign and current 2020 enduro owner
I would love to see your opinion on the reval rascal!
Good to see my boy Jason doing well!
You should try the canyon torque 2019
Will you actually test the slayer ever? Or are you writing it off at this point?
has rocky mountain responded yet?
Daniel Postma: There’s plenty of other RM Slayer reviews out. Check them out. I think Pink Bike is doing the right thing by staying in a holding pattern until/unless RM gets to the bottom of why the bike broke and gives Pink Bike an honest answer to what happened.
@@mrsmartypants_1 can't find any reviews, only first ride impressions. no full reviews out yet as far as i can tell.
James Brant: Yeah you’re probably right. Thinking back I guess they all were first ride impressions. They were all very positive. A mountain bike is a big investment for me. If I were in the market, which I’m not, I personally would reluctantly take the Slayer off my list of contenders. Which might not be fair to RM - that broken bike may well be a one in ten thousand fluke due to a metallurgy anomaly in that one particular frame - but I couldn’t take the financial hit if it happened to me. And I’d hate to be out of commission during prime riding season resolving the warranty issues and such. I’ve never been interested in Specialized in the past but I’d love to give the Enduro a full weekend of riding. As with the Slayer it has gotten great comments from a diverse range of reviewers.
@@mrsmartypants_1 I've been on one since August, absolutely nothing to worry about.
Great job PB! I would like to see a direct Megatower and the Enduro though...
Thank you for the reviews guys! Impressive riding. too bad about the slayer as i am sure it rides great. I take it that enduro races are basically long downhill runs which explains why Sam Hill dominated as soon as he got into it.
How about a Downhill bike field test for 2020?
I’ve got a HT with really short chain stay (430) and a FS with long chainstay (450); my biggest learning is that in everything except switch-backs a long chainstay bike is manouvreable enough.
A comparison of the big ones would be amazing. SB150 vs Megatower vs Enduro vs Ramsom vs Firebird
FunFunFun!
Sb150 and megatower are racebikes. Ransom is more AM than enduro. The spez is more freeride for non-pros than racebike. Why they should be compared?
Racebikes(enduro) and non-pro freeride/park/enduro bikes are in different categories. Of course you can race a slayer and do a park-day and an overmountain trip on a sb150...but why use them improperly?
Sorry, but your comments about the bikes are absolutely senseless. Ransom AM? Of course, because all AM-Race 29er are slack like hell and the Enduro has it’s name because it’s a freerider.
Review the Commencal META AM 29
i would like to see the sworks offered as a 27.5 as well
How does the Kona process 153 27.5 stack up with these?
they did a review last year
Wow, I'm defo going out and buying a brand new Specialized bike after watching this video, go the big S!
Are downhill bikes gonna be on the next field test
May I get an explanation as to why the Giant Reign 29 hasn't had much review coverage? Maybe they were unwilling to send a review unit...
How does specialized enduro performes at jumping?can you do some basic freeride tricks?
Mike: so you think we’re going to get slacker bikes or even steeper head angles Also mike: hold my beer shows the grim donut
Would love to see the SB140 talked about. I crush my times compared to my sb130 and sb150.
What happened with the Slayer? Kinda sad cuz was my favorite one so far... thinking of buying one, should i?
Obviously these bikes are expensive but it would be nice to see more bikes although I am glad you had the specialized and the yeti
So...between the 165 and Enduro...for Killington type park Laps, which would be the most fun/best choice? Blue/black tech, and blue/black drops / jump lines. I’m driving myself crazy between the 27.5” and the 29”. I’m 5’10” on a low gravity day, about 185 geared. I own a SB 5.5 as my main bike. This would be almost exclusively for East Coast park laps / the rare trip out West.
I like that Specialized Enduro, but my bank account doesn’t. 😂
So many bikes! All seem really good too!
SB165 for life
@Pinkbike would you mind explaining what the blind pivot is on the Slayer? When I watched the review, I was a bit lost. Cheers
I believe the "blind" part is simply because it is pretty hard to see, RM shaped the stays to hide the pivot hardware and bearings as much as possible for a clean look.
What about the Guerrilla Gravity Smash ?
Will you one day review a Mondraker Foxy 29 XR ?
I have a slayer it works perfectly fine what happened to there’s I think is a 1 off thing it definitely is for that person who rides rough parks and stuff like that who occasionally goes and rides trail systems like I ride MTN creek NJ and it works perfectly there with its 180mm of travel
Do you guys think you'll ever revisit the Slayer? In it's modern guise
I got into downhill racing last year on my 27.5 enduro bike and I’m looking to take it a bit more seriously this year. I want to upgrade to a longer 29er bike this year as I am a 6’5 giant and feeling a little cramped/ limited on my current bike. I know that the rider makes more of a difference than the bike, but in a sport that comes down to less than a second I want to get the best tool for the job, I can really only afford a one bike setup and could make a dh bike as my only bike work but a bike like the 2020 enduro would be much better on days outside the park. How much of a difference does a dh bike make over the enduro and would the enduro be at all limiting in a dh race situation?
Also if you slapped a 180-190 dual crown on the enduro up the travel and to slacken it out for downhill races and put the original fork back on for the rest of the time how bad of an idea would that be?
how does something like the pivots firebird and Santacruz match up? I feel like they are missing from this comparo?
Shame about the slayer, will you ever give it another chance?
the Spesh enduro took a beating for at least 5 or more years getting lukewarm reviews all over. that they have climbed back near the top in every review i've seen this year (not many yet) says a lot. people love to dump on Spesh, it must be an incredible bike.
Seriously, not the biggest specialized fan but that Enduro is like a work of art. They hit it out of the park.
This is not a fair comparison. You call the category Enduro and include the Yeti, which is more a freeride bike, and you choose a lower spec GT and complain about the components. If you are going to actually compare Enduro bikes, choose bikes built and marketed as Enduro bikes, and select bikes at the same price point. You are comparing bikes that aren’t comparable. It’s just meaningless. Same thing with the other categories.
MC SwaggerFlagger you might have a point
didnt they say that the GT they tested was the current top spec version? In the GT video. What would you like them to do? Build a custom bike?
Gavel Why You have a point, they don’t make a higher spec 29 force, but they are still comparing a $4700 bike with something that’s $10000+
@@binkzera2777 Yea i know. But they compare what they are given, and what they were given wasnt at the same standard as the others (obviously, $4000 can do a lot for a bike)
@@gaveltron So there is a higher force ABOVE Pinkbike out there？
need budget bike videos too.. they seems to be having good geometry and specs.
BansheeForLife Banshee Bikes rule!!!!
2:03 they didn’t milk the only ride park joke at all
Commencal Meta am would've crushed this field test
I am getting the sb165 for Christmas I got it so I am able to hit some massive hucks to flat and gap jumps as big as 45ft will I be impressed with that bike
Lol. That enduro head angle is .1 degree Steeper than my Devinci Wilson
I love the specialized
A single crown fork is simply not stiff enough to come close to a DH bike
Kindly pleas do a reaview with cannondale habitm thanks
Can you tell me what you would say is the best 160 / 170 enduro bike that climbs really well.
27.5 I would prefer. Or a 29er that will take 27.5 wheels.
Thanks for your help
@@userbarny6271 what one ?
Yan Mills i am looking at the transition patrol, wich as 160/170 27,5. Reviews i've seen shows that it climbs well.
The Scott Ransom is 170/170 but it can take 27.5 and 29. It also has twin lock which lowers the travel to 120/120 or full lock
Check out the Santa Cruz Nomad.
@@dadventuretv2538 thank you for your help.
New bike on the way but to much choice.
Thanks again
You guys miss the Orbea Rallon !!
old news.
How does the enduro compare to the gen 4 nomad?
You should probably compare it to the megatower
@@a.wolfgang6423 actually, the nomad is the better and true competitor. Megatower is a racebike.
eugenux the enduro is also a race bike
I have a question what is the best enduro bike for 4000 dollar to 3000???
How does the Specialized Enduro do against the Yeti SB150? Seems like the SB150 would have fit the "Enduro" category better than the SB 165.
They did the sb150 last year so they try no to repeat
I see. Thanks. Still doesn’t makes sense for an Enduro test.
DaaamnGina 100% id love to see them compare enduro bikes to enduro bikes and not park/free ride bikes. The sb165 is also a 27.5 and makes no sense to compare it to a 29er. The sb150 makes more sense as an apples to apples every day of the week.
How about the 2019 EWS winning bike ?
Every time I've seen a normal guy riding park on a non-dh bike, they are getting pummeled. Maybe I'm behind the times and this Specialized isn't a compromise...
What did he said about the specialized enduro going up hill?
No Kona Process 165?
You guys are badass ... keep this s@#t comin!!!!!!
No Mega?
Megatower?
Could someone for the life of god please share a link to the online Yeti Suspension setup guide!? I've been looking for hours, Many Thanks!
www.yeticycles.com/bikes/sb165/?guide:support-shock-setup
They are in the user manuals, I linked the one for the 165
Specialized pays the big bucks for the big reviews
the clear winner as always is YT Capra
indeed
Canyon Spectral
@@colemitchmtb Canyon Torque ???
If that is what you mean...
2nd place 😃
What about the REVEL RAIL in the mix!?
Out of topic question Sir. 2018 Bronson or 2018 Jeffsy or Reactor? Thank u!
jeffsy
Reactor
I love my 2019 Aluminum Bronson.
The Ibis is nowhere near as pretty as me.
P.S. how the hell did the Santa Cruz Nomad not make this list? Also, why didn’t the Geometron (or Nicolai equivalent), which is known to be at the extreme end of geometry not make this list? How did this list come about? I know... too many questions.
We tested platforms that had been released in 2019.
Pinkbike. Ah I see. Thanks for that 👍
Pinkbike OK so where is the Megatower? Yes you’ve reviewed it but you haven’t put it in a comparison test. Also even though the Nomad is older it’s still one of the benchmarks of new category enduro/park bike so I think it’s still one that should be compared to new 27.5
Where do you guys think the rocky instinct bc edition falls
Definetley enduro race bike!
Not too much, not too little, just right
It was one if the top 3 on the list for me and my son... ahead of the Ibis Ripmo AF and Slayer. There were others but for budget reasons and dealer locations we went with the Ripmo AF. Ordered it late and it should be here next week.
Longer chain stays means worse tight switchback performance. No thanks.
No Trek Slash?!?!
Check the revel rail
You forgot the Best Enduro bike .. Santa cruz Megatower..👍🏻
:))))
No santa cruz?
I always thought the two dudes on the sides were the same person.
They never mentioned the slayer
Do it for xc bikes , even weightwinies have life too
I wonder how independent this review is
Ripmo AF should have replaced the GT here
Got force is best one
The cheaper ones literally have better brakes lol
The enduro and sb165 both look so god damn sexy
Try a commencal guys please. or any Free ride enduro bike.
commentators are cringy af but love the vids :D
i just wished the new enduro looked better. im trying my best to like the way it looks lol
Kyle Ang it looks so good in real life!
Looks crazy good in real life
Would look much better with a split top tube like the DH bike. Maybe they will do an alu version with it and (hopefully) adjustable stays. Manufactures really need to catch on with that because front centres on bikes are so long now. You ride them completely different compared to hanging off the back of tiny bikes from years ago.
Intro song is at 1:50 ua-cam.com/video/N3xjrh3f9B4/v-deo.html
Lol 190mm travel propain spindrift
YT capra cheap and world champion
You guys clearly been payed by specialized
Norco whatever
Too expensive bike!!!
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sb165 sucks.... bring back sb6