without question - Acog is one of the best SW content creators in our community and he will be surely missed. Listening to the part about not getting invited to these events hits different for me because there's no reason why your most consistent content creators shouldn't get an invite to one of these events - especially at the height of SW from 2017-2019. You would think after i chose to forfeit contract money in 2018 & 2019 to provide money for com2us to bring out more content creators they would of picked up on it and tried to bring more out these past 5 years - Guess not :/
@@awesometubing9471 There is more to the RNG. There's no actual consistency in the rates they give you. And it's not just summon RNG, it's Siege RNG, Rune drop RNG, everything is RNG based but with insanely high probability to screw you over giving you DOGSHIT and useless drops... Just look at the legendary rune craft you waste 100 essence to get 1 DOGSHIT rune it's fking stupid. You farm all day G12, N12, B12 and only 2 or 3 runes are somewhat useful, what's the whole damn point of having 12 dungeons if you will keep getting damn flat runes, crit rate runes, no speed runes, and when ever you roll up it will most definitely give you the sub-stats that are the least used 99.9% of the time. SUM all of these and make a calculated guess on the insanely time consuming this game, even if you Whale it's absurd.
@@showmeyourcritz321 Yes if it was luck even at those astronomical rate you will still get something, F2P who have never spent in the have really bad rates, compared to people that spent even 10 dollar.
Bro you're complaining about game that you knew going into it was P2W. That's how all gacha games are. Complaining about their bad marketing is like crying over spilled milk tbh. Sure it's bad but ik people who are F2P like myself have only been playing for about 3 years and I have 12 LD5s. It's all luck based both summons and RNG. @@SeanBGames
@@edgar9739 He complains about everything in the game and his viewers. He has a poor understanding of high level games he's overall just a negative person.
talking about pity and ld5 shows that you absolutly got no plan for this game aswell bro they doing a lot wrong but not those 2 points you better move on if thats your only problem xD
@@n1c34y0u Tbh, this is exactly what com2us wanted their players to think. All of the bigger gacha games has pity system and they earn more than com2us. Pity is a MUST have for gacha games because if it's all RNG, then there is no point of constantly trying. Even violent rune is not completely rng, even rune proc rate has a pity. Pity has been in summoner's war, just not in the scrolls.
Bruh, this year I used almost 279 ld scrolls and 52 all attribute scrolls and only got 4 non-HOH ld4's, Frigate, Dova, Dark Ciri and Light Cyborg. The summoning rates are abysmal and it sucks even more since we have no pity system.
How did you only summon 279 lds throughout the whole year though? I summoned my last ld5 on the 16th of august so a bit more than 4 months ago and I'm already at 170 lds since then and yes I'm 100% free to play, if you complain about not getting shit how about playing the game and getting all ldscrolls possible first
@@komodo7044 He's advocating for come2us and will probably get charger sharks and maybe a dark samurai or Jack o lantern if come2us feel generous, out of that 170 ld scroll.
Not to mention rune rates. Runes are the backbone of the game, and when you farm for years and only have 1-2 quad spd rolls to show for it, the rates are too low.
I’ve considered quitting for some time now myself, ended up making the decision the other night. Did my summons, got nothing once again. Oh but had 10x dupes in a row over the last few months as a F2P player that sucks. I have been a dedicated player for 10 years, and I've had enough now. I realised I don't enjoy this game anymore, and man do violent runes suck they ruin a lot of pvp for me. Doing really well, and then OH NEVERMIND stupid unit takes 3 or 4 turns game over buddy HA HA. I find when I play anything pvp it's stressful, annoying, and not fun. I resonate a lot with this video, and the points being made.
@@awesometubing9471 That is not the issue and not the point. People are happy to spend money if the game is good but C2us has been slacking with content and changes for a long time now. There are still so many things that need to be improved and they do nothing but release shitty ass units that change nothing about the game.
Looks like. . . Acog is top tier g3 siege and Rta. . . Really solid into the sw world. He got like pink roid runes and really chill streams ;) Sadly hes dropping like every human being that has common sense(?
you probably dont know him because you enjoy fun/tryout streams like seanB and YDCB where its not that serious. Guess as he is known for rune quality etc he probably is more of a "tryhard" (just guessing i dont know him either)
Thats the mistake. . . We've been used to so little in this game that is normal nowadays but lot of gatchas are far way better than Sw! And devs really care about the community not like this scam game called SW.
@@luiseduardomestreangelone8040 What other games that are far way better than SW? And devs actually care about community? Genuine question. I am trying to find a new game to play with some friends to start at same time.
Our guild basically all had quit within a 1 month time span. I believe it really goes to show that we were finding happiness in the game rather than just having fun in the game. I do think i genuinely enjoyed it, i just had to quit because i spent too little time with my family. I missed out on small details with them, like funny crap my little ones would do. I dont regret quitting but i miss my friends lol.
His content was mid at best, he will be remembered for playing tablo Jamire sekmet.... I watched him when there was not much else to watch, in his video he sounded more salty for not being invited to events but once or so and others were, like if he was grandfathered in the community or something, same as other content creators he voiced the same complains ppl has about the game which means one less voicing the community, to me he was salty and found an excuse to quit more than not linking the game anymore
Summoners War is genuinely one of the best games of its kind, and I think a lot of the criticism gets blown out of proportion. Sure, some people complain about the rates, but the whole point of this game is the long-term progression, not instant gratification. I’ve played other games with better rates, and guess what? They lasted 2-3 years before everyone got everything, and the challenge disappeared. In Summoners War, the thrill comes from slowly building your account, improving your team, and feeling that sense of accomplishment over time. It’s not about aiming for the rarest LD monster right away-it’s about the journey, not just the destination. I genuinely think the devs designed it this way to make the game last and keep it engaging for years.
When they did us dirty with the 10x10 "joyful" event, I swore I won't swipe anymore for this game. Now, Acog is quitting the game? Damn! Com2us fucked up! Acog is like one of the biggest content creator for SW. RIP Acog! Hope you do something like jewbagel post some SW video when you feel like it or just for the fun.
@@harizsyazwan8174 Just to get a bunch of crappy monsters to add to the pile, they release so many monsters this year barely 20% of the them is decent, the rest are trash, and the more they fill the monster box the harder they're making it for someone to pull a legit monster.
Yep, SW is fun but also addicting. I am just casually playing and sometimes can't even play for a few days because I don't have the time. Yesterday I got Grogen and a 33 spd swift rune.. they got me hooked again. Damn addiction. Edit: Yes, I agree that SW has such great QoL features! Some could have been in the game way earlier than when they implemented them but overall this game came such a long way from when I started playing in early 2015.
@owo4470 That is true. There is still a lot to improve on, especially actual new content and communication. I think a pity system isn't needed that bad though. We get tons of scrolls and so many ressources at the start of the game that a new 5* isn't as much of a game chager anymore.
I wish they would let you run auto battle for one dungeon and manually fight a separate dungeon/story areas/raids one at a time because you run out of things to do once your wings are gone, toa done, and guild activities so you just sit and wait for farming to finish.
It's honestly really depressing to see how miserable the whole community of this game has become. The only discourse about summoners war nowadays (be it on social media, the in-game chat and even real life) is pretty much exclusively people ranting about or lamenting their countless frustrations with the game.. To me it's heartbreaking to witness all this as someone who has been happily playing this game for 8 years at this point, someone who's still excited for each update, someone who has a bountiful trove of amazing memories with the game because even despite my continued enthusiasm hearing how much everyone suffers so much, without any reasonable hope that it'll get much better any time soon is making me consider if I should leave aswell and be content with my good memories before this ever-growing mess drags me down with it aswell...
Probably because there's more people playing CS. Getting 1% of a million strong player base is better than getting 10% of 100k player base. (Numbers made up)
The main reason I play is because u can just auto farm while enjoying anime or a movie, I do like 3 to 5 rta matches every other day, an when I'm in work or out with the gf I don't think about the game at all. In about 8 to 9 years of playing, I have spent about $800 total, so that is not a big money drain.
I quit summoners war after its 3rd year anniv. I just came back playing last year. I cant even open my old account anymore. The reason why I stopped because of priorities in life like your family and work or focus more to earn money for living. Then I saw the song of Falcon Shield again about summoners war and it brings some memories like you summoned your nat 5 while taking sh*t or while standing on a bus full of passengers u know the feeling right? But playing limited time only. I would say its his decision if he wants to quit. We cant do something if Devs wont do something to change the game. But I would say they are maybe trying hard but of course cant please everyone. Happy holidays everyone!
This year I stopped drinking and smoking. All that's missing is smoking weed and that damn game (maybe two or three more). That will probably be easier than the first two things, I'm confident I can do it. 💪 Looking back, I've already accomplished quite a bit this year. 😅 And if a stupid lazy guy like me can do it, you can too!! Don't let an addiction take away your potential and your precious time (and money). Be strong, be free!
Not at all surprised about them losing content creators. There is just too much annoying stuff in the game, and they killed it for a lot of players with the Giana buff and not giving a free LD5 after supporting the game for 10 years. Unnecessarily buffing a ld5 unit that didn’t need a buff for a marketing strategy, abysmal summon rates, a consistent “luck” mechanic that causes losses when you should have won, and being underappreciated after years of spending. Dude some players still don't have an ld5 after playing for years lol. So yeah, it’s not that hard to think about quitting
Version releases are because of major game changes made to the game, where patches are iterations on that version. Current version v8.5 as of Dec 2024 - lets trace back versions and see when the last time something actually was added to the game that made a difference. release date for: v8.0 was June 2023 - Mostly QoL improvements + intangible runes (a QOL addition for new players, to reduce rune requirements by adding flexibility) + seal runes release date for: v7.0 was August 2022 - Slimes + Guild Battle Changes release date for: v6.0 was July 2020 - Dimensional Predator release + Artifacts and their dungeons, The change where C2U was proven wrong about Crit, and 2A Miho was fixed. release date for: v5.0 was June 2019 - Dimensional Hole release + 2A mons release date for: v4.0 was July 2018 release date for: v3.0.2 was July 2016 release date for: v2.0.0 was Sept 2015 release date for: v1.1.9 was July 2014 Notice the game was due for a massive change and Version update, in the summer. Its also worth noting its been almost 4 years since something truly meaning full has been done to the game. Combine that with a lack luster 10th anniversary event for active players (a truly huge milestone few games get to experience). The growth of people leaving seems unsurprising, if you look at what C2U does for the game's development, and lack of gameplay changes to re-ignite player or maintain interest.
I retired from the game as well and honestly it feels great to be free. The final nail in the coffin for me was saving up 1300 scrolls and not getting even one new nat 5 and 150 10 year scrolls and 53 LD scrolls and got 1 dupe hoh LD 4 star.
@ yeah it is super annoying. Honestly, I’m kind of thankfully. I’m now free from this game. No more hours wasted grinding for runes and dealing with vio proc bs in guild content and RTA.
Watching Acog play Summoner's War the last few months was sad and depressing. He just complains about no changes despite frequent patches and new monsters. He acts as if Com2Us does NOTHING. Acog quitting Summoner's War is like a putting a suffering animal out of its misery. Do something great Acog. You're obviously an intelligent man. I have learned a lot off of you. I wish you the best. P.S Seanb puts the video on x1.5 speed because Acog talks like a sloth on ketamine.
Exactly. I watch SeanB because he is fun talking about funny things, optimistic etc. I tried to watch Acog but he was just complaining and whining non-stop. Was not my type of streamer.
we asked for so many small changes and they didnt do shit. Now ofc you see everyone asking for free LD5 because we asked for small stuff it didnt happen, might as well ask for big at least and be dissapointed less
At this point, it would take a complete overhaul update. Almost SW 2.0 to actually get ppl to come back to the game. Its just far too stale for too long. You are absolutely right. Everyone just playing it out of habit now.
Sad to see him go. I'm actually interested about his creator invite statement. I actually thought you had to be a much bigger creator to expect that. I never got invited to anything haha
Never heard of him but think I'm done too. Although this was an awesome event I just feel so let down. Been playing from month one and only have light dark monsters to collect so was really looking forward to atleast a Dark/Legendary scroll. 10 light dark will be lucky for 1 lightning and it will almost certainly be a hoh mon.
I have quit several times it doesn't seem to be easy. Hell I'm not exactly as good as I used to be anyway, but I could still tell people how to play better than I play at this point. 9 years in your basically like they say in football when it comes to a legendary coach light Bill Belichick. You forgotten more than most people will learn, or something like that. I remember Jew Bagel once said "in the beginning nobody knew what to do with defense." When I started I knew what to do with defense, I know how important it was to balance defense HP and resistance, even though resistance doesn't matter in this game. How do you plan to take another crack at quitting common but it's easier said than done
One thing you did miss in terms of Com2US ignoring streamers is that THEY ARE INVITING PEOPLE NOW that don't make content, don't stream, or very low impact etc and these people get priority and have had priority for 3 years+, instead of people like Acog who were in the top echelon of Summoners War Content Creators for the last few years. It was different for your case, those other streamers you mentioned were above you in terms of viewership etc. Com2US should prioritize CURRENT content creators when it comes to inviting people to events, especially the SWC tournaments.
It took C2U 9 years and change to add auto farm. I played a game called Seven Knights back in 2016 that already had the mechanic. And it ran until you filled inventory capacity or monster storage capacity.
Every game needs to take a page out of runescape's playbook. Roadmaps for the entire year outlining what big things to expect, and any changes are polled. Constant polls to gauge what the community would like the direction of the game to be moving. Amazing stuff by the OSRS team.
Used to like Acog but whining about not being invited to swc is a joke. Are they supposed to invite everyone who turns on their camera? And don't get me started on how he just moves his 230 swift set around in siege and gets 10 wins in 10 minutes and says siege is easy. He is part of the problem
They made their money on us for 10 years and they dont give a shit about the community anymore, probably been going on for at least 2 years now. Its really sad after spending so much time in the game to see this.
One thing that i hate from summoners war is how uncertain it is Unlike other gacha games like mihoyo games and even magic the gathering, they rarely give any certainties on what you will gate which makes it almost impossible to have options.
not gonna lie i kinda wish they have like SW creator cup or some shit for content creators to mess around play odd picks rta etc like i know swc is somewhat the same thing but thats like pro players like top of the top yknow as a streamer who once in a blue moon that stream summoners war i would love to see that and maybe participate in that honestly
For me, i joined back when Covid started and I think the game helped a lot of people during that time. Its a shame they didn't ride that new wave out and instead was pretty much silent with no changes.
Well said SeanB. Sometimes all fame comes to an end, but it is about the content that the people love to keep subscribers to stick with your channel.Just enjoy life and keep on supporting players with your videos.
The rates are truly ridiculous i ended up summoning 80 ld scrolls, bunch of legendary scrolls , 200 MS and 165 10 yr scrolls with 0 nat 5's and all ld 4 dupes for this even and saved half a year for those ld scrolls. i also had the same result with the 10 yr scrolls earlier this year. its depressing that my alt account ended up getting 2 ld 5's as a f2p account. been playing for all 10 years on and off. now i just log on to play events like this and if i dont get anything i wait a few more months for the next events. pretty pointless wish i could play this game more but the runes RNG really sucks. hundred of reapps to maybe get a triple spd roll.
GG Acog. I am on a double quit right now. I've just quit smoking for about 4 weeks now. I have also quit Summoners war about 3 days ago. Don't care what event they wanna come up with, the game is shit. I've been weighing the reasons to quit and the reasons to continue the same as I have with smoking and no matter how good the reasons to continue might be, they never outweigh the reasons to quit. Long thought process put in a short sentence : I just don't enjoy the game. It doesn't give me fulfillment, I end up disappointed most of the time and it's more frustrating than fun 9 out of 10 times. Quitting smoking is already bringing me improvements in my life and I'm sure that quitting SW will bring me improvements too. I hope that others that are on the edge to quit will make the decision to quit too. You can do it!
Pls, just add feature to turn off crit animation especially at PVE contents, also feature that allow players to choose which skill to use at dungeons and ignore resistance check if our monsters' accuracy is above/same with the dungeons requirements.
The game just feels kind of bad like a toxic relationship. I grinded forever for those 100 10year scrolls and I went 67 scrolls without lightning. I got 5 lightnings in total. I don’t understand why I still play this game when the hours and hours of grinding feel like a waste of time
I quit the game on 2019. I was there once the game to come out. Spent over 3k$US only to get one 5star to none at all. It was the last straw once they added more types of currency other than mana to purchase sh**
Even tho the game and me have a love hate relationship I don't want it to end 10 years is a long time to continue doing the same thing I haven't even taken a break not once haha I hope com2us gets with the program and sees the issues that are continuing and growing and make changes.
I started the game early this year and got so hyped about it, played really intensively and liked it a lot, but by this month I've been highly decieved by the company, already lost faith, trust, and join the same train than many old players being sad of the company behavior and state of the game thoughout all contents, Rta , Arena is horrible atm, siege hasn't moved much we still have this terrible map and all the fun gameplay and units are kinda hard to play, it's tank and bruiser boring world. Really went on a rollercoaster I hope we see some change soon or I might slowly drop almost entirely despite having invested some money in it :( I agree with most of his points it's sad.
He has a point i meen, we've gotten 4 or 5 packs of new units this year all are un usable. If you dont have the 15 Mons people use in rta you almost cant do rta on high lvl. Balance patches are shyt, if you dont have some lnd nat 5 you can't hang anymore, Ive done 100+ lnd Scrolls gotten 3 lightning all nat 4 hoh... And besides you can't say okay now im gonna use a bomb team in rta now a cleave team now a control team no its just 15 units you see over and over again. We have over 1500 units in the game come on ... Im gonna quit too after 10 years of playing sw
Yo Sean, I rarely coment on youtube. SW has been a game that I really enjoyed. I've been playing it for almost 9 (like 8 active) years. The early days were insanely good, I am pretty sure you agree. Even getting a 4* back then was so damn good. Getting a Lushen was like ... insane. Nowadays, it is: play for 2h, you may get some resources for 1 LD, summon it! You wont get shit. And I am no damn noob. I've got a red profile on EU server. It just sucks.
i feel sad for acog but i respect his choices , he got right for so many thing about Clown2us . i wont tank another years like that too , they do greats events , cool QoL yes , but the pvp in this game is not realy good and it get worse in future ... just hoping they do more thing to the game in 2025 , reworks somes thing to the game maybe ... or trying big balances patchs who can change a little the game or just no new monster who we need to wait 4 years to get playable and a fcking random one very good became Op as hell ( moore xin zhe giana u know ) . at this rate its better playing another game and see if they change or not and leave if not . After all its just a game , and prison like but a game . PS : i still watching people like you sean because u do fun content and its realy cool so keep continute u the best
I am new player I have two friends who are new as well. And I am in a beginner guild and trust me we are more than YOU think. What I find sad though is that there's very little content made for us, new players, so we have to figure it out on ourselves for most things
Dude, the sad part is that Oliver and Moore are still dominating the rta scene. You barely see any fights without them (atleast in P3 and below). Dont know if it is the case for tournaments but i guess if thats not the case in tournaments, its just because the players have a much bigger Pool variety
I managed to quit SW for almost a year now after several failed attempts. To make sure i would never comeback i gave my account away and made the person change the ID and password and also lost contact with that person. If not for all this i think i would have relapsed 2 or 3 times. Yeah SW is super addictive. Hats off if you managed to quit.
What's gonna make me quit is Com2Us randomly giving out god tier ld's, it was fine when it was only some chosen ones or big spenders cuz they would duke it out in their own league, but nowadays, even in lowers elos, there are almost only people with those units playing and you can't compete as a free to play player unless (and even then it's not guaranteed) you play 20h a day, which i don't.
7:09 yeah, until you start to compare it to SW Chronicles...a game made by the same company... Then it's a slap in the face at how so many QOL things are still MISSING. 4 star devilmon, fully auto TOA and TOAH (not just every 10 lvls), quick battle farming, pity summon systems, regular pre-ban in their RTA, etc.
God Dam it Sean! We can't lose you too. Don't do it! There's no other multi platform game. like PC and mobile that I want to play ( I suppose I'd be open to suggestions) SW is cool because you can spend 10 minutes on it here or there, or binge a big 8 hour session into.
I used to spend quite a bit of money on this game a few years back. I came back to it a couple months ago now and it's just been a side project when I'm doing something else.
I said it for the past 5 years: this company never gave a flying fk about player's opinions and disrespected their community like no other company. As long as the players keep supporting them and spending there's literally no reason why trash2us would start listening and respecting players. This game is built on hope: that you'll get that ld, that quadroll, that proc etc. If you can see beyond that hope you'll realize that is a big pile of shit. There is no strategy in this game: you can outspeed, you can counter pick, you can do whatever you want and one proc can change the end result and you play hoping that luck is going to be on your side. Once you start being competitive that is the moment you stop enjoying the game and after all is a PvP game. Most of the veteran players understand this and that's why most of them quit, because there's and endless grinding without a certain result.
Bruh I tried clicking the runes on the screen at @4:05 I really need to quit this game. btw we will miss you Acog. We totally understand how you feel. We're supportive and happy with your decision
@@SeanBGames Just trying to wring out the last milk drops, from this old, dry cow, the Summoners War has become, partly thanks to their efforts, or to be more correct, lack of efforts.
Coz its a dead game, and people still spend money to keep it alive. They are just waiting for everyone to quit. I returned to the game recently, and every screen I enter, they spam you with ads to buy packs
I have 10 LD nat 5 and tons of nat 5. Free to play and I only log in for 5 minutes a day. Collect my rewards log out save scrolls for a big summon toward the end of the year.
without question - Acog is one of the best SW content creators in our community and he will be surely missed. Listening to the part about not getting invited to these events hits different for me because there's no reason why your most consistent content creators shouldn't get an invite to one of these events - especially at the height of SW from 2017-2019. You would think after i chose to forfeit contract money in 2018 & 2019 to provide money for com2us to bring out more content creators they would of picked up on it and tried to bring more out these past 5 years - Guess not :/
A wild Childish appears.
I remember my hype of finding your arena defense once. I got bodied but it was still a peak SW moment for me 👍🏻
nice point
10 Year Anniversary:
Everyone left edition
C2U: And for our next trick we will reduce the player base by half 😂😂😂
You mean grown men complaining about a gacha game having bad RNG. It's all luck.
@@awesometubing9471 There is no "luck"... it's all programmed... C2U decided the rates and created the RNG
@@awesometubing9471 There is more to the RNG. There's no actual consistency in the rates they give you. And it's not just summon RNG, it's Siege RNG, Rune drop RNG, everything is RNG based but with insanely high probability to screw you over giving you DOGSHIT and useless drops... Just look at the legendary rune craft you waste 100 essence to get 1 DOGSHIT rune it's fking stupid. You farm all day G12, N12, B12 and only 2 or 3 runes are somewhat useful, what's the whole damn point of having 12 dungeons if you will keep getting damn flat runes, crit rate runes, no speed runes, and when ever you roll up it will most definitely give you the sub-stats that are the least used 99.9% of the time.
SUM all of these and make a calculated guess on the insanely time consuming this game, even if you Whale it's absurd.
@@showmeyourcritz321 Yes if it was luck even at those astronomical rate you will still get something, F2P who have never spent in the have really bad rates, compared to people that spent even 10 dollar.
watching sean in 1.5x watching acog in 1.5x i kinda hard lol
I was editing myself in 1.5 too 😂
Hahahah
You mean x2?
Bro you're complaining about game that you knew going into it was P2W. That's how all gacha games are. Complaining about their bad marketing is like crying over spilled milk tbh. Sure it's bad but ik people who are F2P like myself have only been playing for about 3 years and I have 12 LD5s. It's all luck based both summons and RNG. @@SeanBGames
@@SeanBGames we are moving to fast these days 😂
Jewbagel: welcome to the club
nothing like announcing your departure 1.5 years in advance
Losing bagel was a net positive for the community.
@@imnotyou23why?
@@imnotyou23 Why? Criticism is key, or else com2us would care less.
@@edgar9739 He complains about everything in the game and his viewers. He has a poor understanding of high level games he's overall just a negative person.
No pity, no easier access to LD5's, and no community awareness. This is the game that the devs self-proclaimed called as "eSports". Simply ridiculous.
An example on how to dig your grave 😂
Its an fucking insult to call this trash game "eSports" lmao.
@@Chr1s_1986 Imagine organizing a race where some are on Formula 1 car, others on Ferrari and the vast majority are either on bycle or on foot.
talking about pity and ld5 shows that you absolutly got no plan for this game aswell bro
they doing a lot wrong but not those 2 points you better move on if thats your only problem xD
@@n1c34y0u Tbh, this is exactly what com2us wanted their players to think. All of the bigger gacha games has pity system and they earn more than com2us.
Pity is a MUST have for gacha games because if it's all RNG, then there is no point of constantly trying.
Even violent rune is not completely rng, even rune proc rate has a pity.
Pity has been in summoner's war, just not in the scrolls.
Bruh, this year I used almost 279 ld scrolls and 52 all attribute scrolls and only got 4 non-HOH ld4's, Frigate, Dova, Dark Ciri and Light Cyborg. The summoning rates are abysmal and it sucks even more since we have no pity system.
dont you guys have reddit to cry about this stuff?
How did you only summon 279 lds throughout the whole year though? I summoned my last ld5 on the 16th of august so a bit more than 4 months ago and I'm already at 170 lds since then and yes I'm 100% free to play, if you complain about not getting shit how about playing the game and getting all ldscrolls possible first
@@Luca-lv8mzyour comment doesn’t make sense since the poster was talking about the rate not the amount of ld scrolls.
@@komodo7044 He's advocating for come2us and will probably get charger sharks and maybe a dark samurai or Jack o lantern if come2us feel generous, out of that 170 ld scroll.
Not to mention rune rates. Runes are the backbone of the game, and when you farm for years and only have 1-2 quad spd rolls to show for it, the rates are too low.
I’ve considered quitting for some time now myself, ended up making the decision the other night. Did my summons, got nothing once again. Oh but had 10x dupes in a row over the last few months as a F2P player that sucks. I have been a dedicated player for 10 years, and I've had enough now. I realised I don't enjoy this game anymore, and man do violent runes suck they ruin a lot of pvp for me. Doing really well, and then OH NEVERMIND stupid unit takes 3 or 4 turns game over buddy HA HA. I find when I play anything pvp it's stressful, annoying, and not fun. I resonate a lot with this video, and the points being made.
stressfull ?
@@sirtristanus2017 Never tried to play competitive SW?
Summoners War, The No-Future Simulator 💀
Summoner's War where grown men complain about a gacha game even though those players knew going into the game it was and is Pay to Win.
@@awesometubing9471 That is not the issue and not the point. People are happy to spend money if the game is good but C2us has been slacking with content and changes for a long time now. There are still so many things that need to be improved and they do nothing but release shitty ass units that change nothing about the game.
Am i the only one who has never heard of the dude?
Feel you. Who is this bro?
Looks like. . . Acog is top tier g3 siege and Rta. . . Really solid into the sw world. He got like pink roid runes and really chill streams ;)
Sadly hes dropping like every human being that has common sense(?
you probably dont know him because you enjoy fun/tryout streams like seanB and YDCB where its not that serious. Guess as he is known for rune quality etc he probably is more of a "tryhard" (just guessing i dont know him either)
I've seen some of his videos, I think youtuber started recommending him.
You're probably not on twitch then, hes well known there more than YT
Voilet rune set should be change to gives 15-25% attack bar with a %chance after every turn. Getting a second turn is just so fucking broken
Step 1 of playing gacha game: don't hope for anything
Thats the mistake. . . We've been used to so little in this game that is normal nowadays but lot of gatchas are far way better than Sw!
And devs really care about the community not like this scam game called SW.
Literally, when i started to not care about summon i got everything, i just got 5 lyd 5 and still playing
@@luiseduardomestreangelone8040 What other games that are far way better than SW? And devs actually care about community? Genuine question. I am trying to find a new game to play with some friends to start at same time.
rip to acog sir
O7
More like GZ
I only know of him since the start of December but still o7
Our guild basically all had quit within a 1 month time span. I believe it really goes to show that we were finding happiness in the game rather than just having fun in the game.
I do think i genuinely enjoyed it, i just had to quit because i spent too little time with my family. I missed out on small details with them, like funny crap my little ones would do. I dont regret quitting but i miss my friends lol.
thats honestly so real, game forces you to spend hours only to get the dailies and even some of the event points up
His content was mid at best, he will be remembered for playing tablo Jamire sekmet.... I watched him when there was not much else to watch, in his video he sounded more salty for not being invited to events but once or so and others were, like if he was grandfathered in the community or something, same as other content creators he voiced the same complains ppl has about the game which means one less voicing the community, to me he was salty and found an excuse to quit more than not linking the game anymore
Summoners War is genuinely one of the best games of its kind, and I think a lot of the criticism gets blown out of proportion. Sure, some people complain about the rates, but the whole point of this game is the long-term progression, not instant gratification. I’ve played other games with better rates, and guess what? They lasted 2-3 years before everyone got everything, and the challenge disappeared.
In Summoners War, the thrill comes from slowly building your account, improving your team, and feeling that sense of accomplishment over time. It’s not about aiming for the rarest LD monster right away-it’s about the journey, not just the destination. I genuinely think the devs designed it this way to make the game last and keep it engaging for years.
When they did us dirty with the 10x10 "joyful" event, I swore I won't swipe anymore for this game. Now, Acog is quitting the game? Damn! Com2us fucked up! Acog is like one of the biggest content creator for SW. RIP Acog! Hope you do something like jewbagel post some SW video when you feel like it or just for the fun.
Lexico not swiping his credit card? That gotta be a huge dent😎
Till u know maybe a "Demon Slayer" Collab drop
Acog good. But his acc have everything and still he brag. Hrmm
@@harizsyazwan8174 Just to get a bunch of crappy monsters to add to the pile, they release so many monsters this year barely 20% of the them is decent, the rest are trash, and the more they fill the monster box the harder they're making it for someone to pull a legit monster.
love how most if not all long lasting games where quitting is actually a achievement
Yep, SW is fun but also addicting. I am just casually playing and sometimes can't even play for a few days because I don't have the time. Yesterday I got Grogen and a 33 spd swift rune.. they got me hooked again. Damn addiction.
Edit: Yes, I agree that SW has such great QoL features! Some could have been in the game way earlier than when they implemented them but overall this game came such a long way from when I started playing in early 2015.
its still heavily lacking
its the only gacha without pity now that arknight has it(albeit only for 1 type of banner, out of 4)
@owo4470
That is true. There is still a lot to improve on, especially actual new content and communication.
I think a pity system isn't needed that bad though. We get tons of scrolls and so many ressources at the start of the game that a new 5* isn't as much of a game chager anymore.
@red_dll it really is needed, I'm currently on a 1000 scroll no 5* streak anx that possibility was like 0.2% last I calculated
My biggest achievement this year is quiting RTA, hope can quit the game by the end of next year
GL! You can do it
If you dont play rta anymore you will get bored easily because nothing is there to do, so should be easier to quit
@@tiziank.6975 Thank you!
@@ahouse73 Yesss hopefully!
I wish they would let you run auto battle for one dungeon and manually fight a separate dungeon/story areas/raids one at a time because you run out of things to do once your wings are gone, toa done, and guild activities so you just sit and wait for farming to finish.
It's honestly really depressing to see how miserable the whole community of this game has become. The only discourse about summoners war nowadays (be it on social media, the in-game chat and even real life) is pretty much exclusively people ranting about or lamenting their countless frustrations with the game..
To me it's heartbreaking to witness all this as someone who has been happily playing this game for 8 years at this point, someone who's still excited for each update, someone who has a bountiful trove of amazing memories with the game because even despite my continued enthusiasm hearing how much everyone suffers so much, without any reasonable hope that it'll get much better any time soon is making me consider if I should leave aswell and be content with my good memories before this ever-growing mess drags me down with it aswell...
He says he can't get growth in SW (an old game) and now he is going to an even older game with many more established creators?!?
If he becomes one of the best, they’ll watch him regardless of many more established creators.
Probably because there's more people playing CS. Getting 1% of a million strong player base is better than getting 10% of 100k player base. (Numbers made up)
The main reason I play is because u can just auto farm while enjoying anime or a movie, I do like 3 to 5 rta matches every other day, an when I'm in work or out with the gf I don't think about the game at all. In about 8 to 9 years of playing, I have spent about $800 total, so that is not a big money drain.
That's about what I've put in over 9 years. But I'm broke so that number is huge lol
Exactly same as me. Mostly I just chat with guildies and friends and do guild stuff. Not much of climbing or something.
I quit summoners war after its 3rd year anniv.
I just came back playing last year. I cant even open my old account anymore.
The reason why I stopped because of priorities in life like your family and work or focus more to earn money for living.
Then I saw the song of Falcon Shield again about summoners war and it brings some memories like you summoned your nat 5 while taking sh*t or while standing on a bus full of passengers u know the feeling right? But playing limited time only.
I would say its his decision if he wants to quit. We cant do something if Devs wont do something to change the game. But I would say they are maybe trying hard but of course cant please everyone.
Happy holidays everyone!
ofc it's his decision are you dumb? did worms eat your brain?
This year I stopped drinking and smoking. All that's missing is smoking weed and that damn game (maybe two or three more). That will probably be easier than the first two things, I'm confident I can do it. 💪 Looking back, I've already accomplished quite a bit this year. 😅
And if a stupid lazy guy like me can do it, you can too!!
Don't let an addiction take away your potential and your precious time (and money). Be strong, be free!
You get it champ.
Not at all surprised about them losing content creators. There is just too much annoying stuff in the game, and they killed it for a lot of players with the Giana buff and not giving a free LD5 after supporting the game for 10 years. Unnecessarily buffing a ld5 unit that didn’t need a buff for a marketing strategy, abysmal summon rates, a consistent “luck” mechanic that causes losses when you should have won, and being underappreciated after years of spending. Dude some players still don't have an ld5 after playing for years lol. So yeah, it’s not that hard to think about quitting
Version releases are because of major game changes made to the game, where patches are iterations on that version.
Current version v8.5 as of Dec 2024 - lets trace back versions and see when the last time something actually was added to the game that made a difference.
release date for: v8.0 was June 2023 - Mostly QoL improvements + intangible runes (a QOL addition for new players, to reduce rune requirements by adding flexibility) + seal runes
release date for: v7.0 was August 2022 - Slimes + Guild Battle Changes
release date for: v6.0 was July 2020 - Dimensional Predator release + Artifacts and their dungeons, The change where C2U was proven wrong about Crit, and 2A Miho was fixed.
release date for: v5.0 was June 2019 - Dimensional Hole release + 2A mons
release date for: v4.0 was July 2018
release date for: v3.0.2 was July 2016
release date for: v2.0.0 was Sept 2015
release date for: v1.1.9 was July 2014
Notice the game was due for a massive change and Version update, in the summer. Its also worth noting its been almost 4 years since something truly meaning full has been done to the game. Combine that with a lack luster 10th anniversary event for active players (a truly huge milestone few games get to experience). The growth of people leaving seems unsurprising, if you look at what C2U does for the game's development, and lack of gameplay changes to re-ignite player or maintain interest.
I retired from the game as well and honestly it feels great to be free. The final nail in the coffin for me was saving up 1300 scrolls and not getting even one new nat 5 and 150 10 year scrolls and 53 LD scrolls and got 1 dupe hoh LD 4 star.
The amount of bs when you only pull dupes or hoh l/d units is so frustrating and demotivating.
@ yeah it is super annoying. Honestly, I’m kind of thankfully. I’m now free from this game. No more hours wasted grinding for runes and dealing with vio proc bs in guild content and RTA.
Watching Acog play Summoner's War the last few months was sad and depressing. He just complains about no changes despite frequent patches and new monsters. He acts as if Com2Us does NOTHING. Acog quitting Summoner's War is like a putting a suffering animal out of its misery.
Do something great Acog. You're obviously an intelligent man. I have learned a lot off of you. I wish you the best.
P.S Seanb puts the video on x1.5 speed because Acog talks like a sloth on ketamine.
frequent patches and new mons 😂😂😂 are you challenger 1
Exactly. I watch SeanB because he is fun talking about funny things, optimistic etc. I tried to watch Acog but he was just complaining and whining non-stop. Was not my type of streamer.
we asked for so many small changes and they didnt do shit. Now ofc you see everyone asking for free LD5 because we asked for small stuff it didnt happen, might as well ask for big at least and be dissapointed less
Ur a big creator... the guy is lucky to get 40 comments in 10 hours
At this point, it would take a complete overhaul update. Almost SW 2.0 to actually get ppl to come back to the game. Its just far too stale for too long. You are absolutely right. Everyone just playing it out of habit now.
I really appreciate how level headed both of you guys are about this - also thanks for the EU Office Shout out. much love
Sad to see him go. I'm actually interested about his creator invite statement. I actually thought you had to be a much bigger creator to expect that. I never got invited to anything haha
Never heard of him but think I'm done too. Although this was an awesome event I just feel so let down. Been playing from month one and only have light dark monsters to collect so was really looking forward to atleast a Dark/Legendary scroll. 10 light dark will be lucky for 1 lightning and it will almost certainly be a hoh mon.
I just summoned a 5*, and did not get the pack when summoning a 5*, did com2us remove it? I summoned using x10
When and where does Sean stream guys in uk time
when you said islandgrown it sparked core memories
i tough this video is about people abuse chandra, sagar, vela in rta
I have quit several times it doesn't seem to be easy. Hell I'm not exactly as good as I used to be anyway, but I could still tell people how to play better than I play at this point. 9 years in your basically like they say in football when it comes to a legendary coach light Bill Belichick. You forgotten more than most people will learn, or something like that.
I remember Jew Bagel once said "in the beginning nobody knew what to do with defense." When I started I knew what to do with defense, I know how important it was to balance defense HP and resistance, even though resistance doesn't matter in this game.
How do you plan to take another crack at quitting common but it's easier said than done
One thing you did miss in terms of Com2US ignoring streamers is that THEY ARE INVITING PEOPLE NOW that don't make content, don't stream, or very low impact etc and these people get priority and have had priority for 3 years+, instead of people like Acog who were in the top echelon of Summoners War Content Creators for the last few years. It was different for your case, those other streamers you mentioned were above you in terms of viewership etc. Com2US should prioritize CURRENT content creators when it comes to inviting people to events, especially the SWC tournaments.
Seems more like he's butthurt about not getting perks for being a streamer.
best example coc they listen to there community
I appreciate you for putting out these perspective outlook videos the game rather than just gameplay videos .
It took C2U 9 years and change to add auto farm. I played a game called Seven Knights back in 2016 that already had the mechanic. And it ran until you filled inventory capacity or monster storage capacity.
Been in my guild 4 10 years. I check in daily to chat lol. Its fun, not gonna quit..
Every game needs to take a page out of runescape's playbook.
Roadmaps for the entire year outlining what big things to expect, and any changes are polled. Constant polls to gauge what the community would like the direction of the game to be moving. Amazing stuff by the OSRS team.
I'm going to die of old age before I collect half of the ld nat 5s. :/
And before I get 1
Used to like Acog but whining about not being invited to swc is a joke. Are they supposed to invite everyone who turns on their camera? And don't get me started on how he just moves his 230 swift set around in siege and gets 10 wins in 10 minutes and says siege is easy. He is part of the problem
quit a year ago still enjoys sean B content it is fun to watch ngl if u actually know how to enjoy the game like sean doing meme team in gw or arena
They made their money on us for 10 years and they dont give a shit about the community anymore, probably been going on for at least 2 years now.
Its really sad after spending so much time in the game to see this.
It's not the streamers or content creators fault this game killed its own following.
I just retired from playing yesterday and avoiding watching streamers except for this one. The title made me watch this.
Same
i quitting SW like 6 years ago but still watch the CC.
Acog is one of my ex-guildy. Even we haven't meet in person. We'll 100% miss him.
things i want
1. remove craft materials
2. remove flat runes
One thing that i hate from summoners war is how uncertain it is
Unlike other gacha games like mihoyo games and even magic the gathering, they rarely give any certainties on what you will gate which makes it almost impossible to have options.
Do correct me if i am wrong, afaik AcogSW is the one who uses old barion acct right?
Yes he does, or did lol
not gonna lie i kinda wish they have like SW creator cup or some shit for content creators to mess around play odd picks rta etc like i know swc is somewhat the same thing but thats like pro players like top of the top yknow as a streamer who once in a blue moon that stream summoners war i would love to see that and maybe participate in that honestly
Daddy Sean is becoming real in every years. Every words said is Golden!!
For me, i joined back when Covid started and I think the game helped a lot of people during that time. Its a shame they didn't ride that new wave out and instead was pretty much silent with no changes.
The Accession is very huge major problem. Have been playing this game for 8 years, but only got 7 ld5 and some of them unusable.
They really need to add an offline grind mode
Well said SeanB. Sometimes all fame comes to an end, but it is about the content that the people love to keep subscribers to stick with your channel.Just enjoy life and keep on supporting players with your videos.
The rates are truly ridiculous i ended up summoning 80 ld scrolls, bunch of legendary scrolls , 200 MS and 165 10 yr scrolls with 0 nat 5's and all ld 4 dupes for this even and saved half a year for those ld scrolls. i also had the same result with the 10 yr scrolls earlier this year. its depressing that my alt account ended up getting 2 ld 5's as a f2p account. been playing for all 10 years on and off. now i just log on to play events like this and if i dont get anything i wait a few more months for the next events. pretty pointless wish i could play this game more but the runes RNG really sucks. hundred of reapps to maybe get a triple spd roll.
GG Acog. I am on a double quit right now. I've just quit smoking for about 4 weeks now. I have also quit Summoners war about 3 days ago. Don't care what event they wanna come up with, the game is shit. I've been weighing the reasons to quit and the reasons to continue the same as I have with smoking and no matter how good the reasons to continue might be, they never outweigh the reasons to quit. Long thought process put in a short sentence : I just don't enjoy the game. It doesn't give me fulfillment, I end up disappointed most of the time and it's more frustrating than fun 9 out of 10 times. Quitting smoking is already bringing me improvements in my life and I'm sure that quitting SW will bring me improvements too. I hope that others that are on the edge to quit will make the decision to quit too. You can do it!
Acog is one of the most miserable and toxic people out there in SW. also, very snarky.
Any game becomes stale when you spend the entire day playing it.
Pls, just add feature to turn off crit animation especially at PVE contents, also feature that allow players to choose which skill to use at dungeons and ignore resistance check if our monsters' accuracy is above/same with the dungeons requirements.
The game just feels kind of bad like a toxic relationship. I grinded forever for those 100 10year scrolls and I went 67 scrolls without lightning. I got 5 lightnings in total. I don’t understand why I still play this game when the hours and hours of grinding feel like a waste of time
Last event gives you a 1/15 for an ld.. it simply means 28 are dissapointed and 2 are happy per guild.. lets see how big the community is in 2025
I felt a lot of Reafi in his words even he may not know who Reafi was...
I quit the game on 2019. I was there once the game to come out. Spent over 3k$US only to get one 5star to none at all. It was the last straw once they added more types of currency other than mana to purchase sh**
Even tho the game and me have a love hate relationship I don't want it to end 10 years is a long time to continue doing the same thing I haven't even taken a break not once haha I hope com2us gets with the program and sees the issues that are continuing and growing and make changes.
I started the game early this year and got so hyped about it, played really intensively and liked it a lot, but by this month I've been highly decieved by the company, already lost faith, trust, and join the same train than many old players being sad of the company behavior and state of the game thoughout all contents, Rta , Arena is horrible atm, siege hasn't moved much we still have this terrible map and all the fun gameplay and units are kinda hard to play, it's tank and bruiser boring world.
Really went on a rollercoaster I hope we see some change soon or I might slowly drop almost entirely despite having invested some money in it :( I agree with most of his points it's sad.
He has a point i meen, we've gotten 4 or 5 packs of new units this year all are un usable. If you dont have the 15 Mons people use in rta you almost cant do rta on high lvl. Balance patches are shyt, if you dont have some lnd nat 5 you can't hang anymore, Ive done 100+ lnd Scrolls gotten 3 lightning all nat 4 hoh... And besides you can't say okay now im gonna use a bomb team in rta now a cleave team now a control team no its just 15 units you see over and over again. We have over 1500 units in the game come on ... Im gonna quit too after 10 years of playing sw
Man I stopped playing over 4 years ago and still watch u
@SeanB I've got to the point where I just have a L&D account. Im coming up on 1 year alcohol free. Definitely a hard addiction to quit. Great video 👍
Yo Sean, I rarely coment on youtube. SW has been a game that I really enjoyed. I've been playing it for almost 9 (like 8 active) years. The early days were insanely good, I am pretty sure you agree. Even getting a 4* back then was so damn good. Getting a Lushen was like ... insane.
Nowadays, it is: play for 2h, you may get some resources for 1 LD, summon it! You wont get shit.
And I am no damn noob. I've got a red profile on EU server. It just sucks.
The moment a game comes out like summoners war I will quit so fast
i feel sad for acog but i respect his choices , he got right for so many thing about Clown2us . i wont tank another years like that too , they do greats events , cool QoL yes , but the pvp in this game is not realy good and it get worse in future ... just hoping they do more thing to the game in 2025 , reworks somes thing to the game maybe ... or trying big balances patchs who can change a little the game or just no new monster who we need to wait 4 years to get playable and a fcking random one very good became Op as hell ( moore xin zhe giana u know ) . at this rate its better playing another game and see if they change or not and leave if not . After all its just a game , and prison like but a game . PS : i still watching people like you sean because u do fun content and its realy cool so keep continute u the best
I am new player I have two friends who are new as well. And I am in a beginner guild and trust me we are more than YOU think.
What I find sad though is that there's very little content made for us, new players, so we have to figure it out on ourselves for most things
the developer doesn't read the feedback and suggestion.
no update for new content they just add same event.
Dude, the sad part is that Oliver and Moore are still dominating the rta scene. You barely see any fights without them (atleast in P3 and below). Dont know if it is the case for tournaments but i guess if thats not the case in tournaments, its just because the players have a much bigger Pool variety
Hollowop
@@marcindali9008 Marcel ?
Already quit but still watches Sean and other SW creators
I managed to quit SW for almost a year now after several failed attempts. To make sure i would never comeback i gave my account away and made the person change the ID and password and also lost contact with that person. If not for all this i think i would have relapsed 2 or 3 times. Yeah SW is super addictive. Hats off if you managed to quit.
Wait. Why don’t we have seanb marvel rivals videos?
What's gonna make me quit is Com2Us randomly giving out god tier ld's, it was fine when it was only some chosen ones or big spenders cuz they would duke it out in their own league, but nowadays, even in lowers elos, there are almost only people with those units playing and you can't compete as a free to play player unless (and even then it's not guaranteed) you play 20h a day, which i don't.
7:09 yeah, until you start to compare it to SW Chronicles...a game made by the same company... Then it's a slap in the face at how so many QOL things are still MISSING. 4 star devilmon, fully auto TOA and TOAH (not just every 10 lvls), quick battle farming, pity summon systems, regular pre-ban in their RTA, etc.
Be good to your creators we do this for you guys! It gets tough for people sometimes
My dads played summoners war for over 8 years and my brother sadly passed away last year and my dad hasn’t pick it up since
God Dam it Sean! We can't lose you too. Don't do it! There's no other multi platform game. like PC and mobile that I want to play ( I suppose I'd be open to suggestions) SW is cool because you can spend 10 minutes on it here or there, or binge a big 8 hour session into.
I used to spend quite a bit of money on this game a few years back. I came back to it a couple months ago now and it's just been a side project when I'm doing something else.
I said it for the past 5 years: this company never gave a flying fk about player's opinions and disrespected their community like no other company. As long as the players keep supporting them and spending there's literally no reason why trash2us would start listening and respecting players. This game is built on hope: that you'll get that ld, that quadroll, that proc etc. If you can see beyond that hope you'll realize that is a big pile of shit. There is no strategy in this game: you can outspeed, you can counter pick, you can do whatever you want and one proc can change the end result and you play hoping that luck is going to be on your side. Once you start being competitive that is the moment you stop enjoying the game and after all is a PvP game. Most of the veteran players understand this and that's why most of them quit, because there's and endless grinding without a certain result.
Bruh I tried clicking the runes on the screen at @4:05
I really need to quit this game.
btw we will miss you Acog. We totally understand how you feel. We're supportive and happy with your decision
Bagel said he was quitting too. Real sad.
I'm considering rained Shadow Legends and E7 even though I had kind of started E7 about a year or two ago. I just don't know yet though
There is a new turn based coming with RTA! Its called Etheria Restart
I wonder why they dont have a road map like they have in Chronicles..
They basically did with the event that gave monsters for completing certain tasks… until they removed it and Summoner’s Way is the only thing left.
Maybe they dont know what they are doing and just winging it as they go so they cant tell us any plan 😂
@@SeanBGames Just trying to wring out the last milk drops, from this old, dry cow, the Summoners War has become, partly thanks to their efforts, or to be more correct, lack of efforts.
Coz its a dead game, and people still spend money to keep it alive. They are just waiting for everyone to quit. I returned to the game recently, and every screen I enter, they spam you with ads to buy packs
I have 10 LD nat 5 and tons of nat 5. Free to play and I only log in for 5 minutes a day. Collect my rewards log out save scrolls for a big summon toward the end of the year.
I really like Acog
SW has been doing a horrible job lately