I think is a universal constant... these types HATE to be ignored. Drives them absolutely CRAZY... and then they do something foolish. I'd go back there and continue fishing... because we all know he's gonna come back out. Just silently fish... with a camera recording everything. Best case scenario is he accepts that you have a right to be on the water... and stops harassing you. The worst case scenario is he doesn't... and you have a case to charge him with assault. And then sue him in civil court (AKA a big settlement... lots of $$$).
He does not own the outstretch into the water. I went to the Washington state accessors website and searched "75 Skagit Key, Bellevue, WA 98006" which is his property. The property line stops at his back yard.
It def looks like the property lines run into the riparian way and in reference to the last comment left your property line can extend into the waterway. The thing to look for is the actual apn map as you searched. The zoning type maps may not show all property lines. Funny side note: There are parcels for sale, underwater, at the edge of the San Francisco bay. Subdivided land.
I'm sure he's aware of the law and that he's breaking the law. He was badgering me for a bit prior to me turning on the camera. I was ignoring him for some time without saying a word. He's got enough money that he can buy his way into and out of problems. Problems like him harassing fishermen, laying down logs around his property in the lake with huge chains which is likely a violation of ecology statutes and it is questionable if his deck is up to code as well.
best revenge is posting the coordinates to that spot on every bass site/channel with pictures of hogs and having every fishermen gor 50 miles flowing that spot up daily
@@johnz5055 in general I only visit that spot in spring. Typically because the bass are that shallow until later in the year when submerged vegetation grows in. Then it's very difficult to fish because of dropping lake level and fish under the mats. I don't typically punch or flip from my kayak. It's easier to go elsewhere and try something different
This fool worked his entire life just to own waterfront property. You just get in your kayak and go fishing for the same reasons and feelings that man gets. You win tho cause you have the time to fish and enjoy while he circled his property like a guard dog protecting his life time worth of work. These people will never figure it out because their possessions are the only thing they have. Love to you brother. ❤️
Hey Midnight, I'm all for fishing on public land and will not hunt or fish on someone else's property unless I have their permission. I have worked (hard) all my life and I (will) protect the miniscule possessions I have worked so hard for for regardless who gets offended. I am now retired and enjoy hunting and fishing public waters.
No, it is a felony to impede anyone from engaging in fishing or hunting. Plus a lot of these fishermen carry so I wouldn't be harassing too many. r@@whatsup7253
No best revenge is posting the coordinates to that spot on every bass site/channel with pictures of hogs and having every fishermen gor 50 miles flowing that spot up daily
I had one the other day. I was wading in a public park. Dude said I'm not allowed to be there, said he would call authorities. I told him it's a crime to harass legal anglers (it is in my province) and to hurry up and call the authorities. Told him to call the FBI (we dont have FBI in Canada, I watch too many movies). He asked how I got where I was. I said I flew. Authorities came 30 minutes later. Told me to enjoy my fishing, have good day, and stay safe. I fished the spot for another 2 hours. I always bark back against these idiots. I call their bluff every single time, and every single time I have been in the right. I am not always right, but when it comes to fishing I do my homework first.
Call the FBI :-) yeah I think this guy just built his shiny new dock and doesn't want anyone near it. I found the state constitution article 17 defines that the state owns navigable waters (which is where I was) and he doesn't own that spot. Additionally, we do have a law against harassment of fishermen and I told him I was aware of the law on that issue. He's trying to bluff me into going away.
I’m only a causal fisherman, not very knowledgeable. I’m on the river a lot though. I’ve never encountered an unpleasant fisherman. They’re some of the most peaceful people I have met. Leave em alone
@borbonic he not only wants his dock, but now he wants a little slice of private lake with it. Looks at a glance like he's trying to slowly create an artificial bay for himself. Chain some logs, grow some moss & plants on top of them. Slowly over 5 -10 years add some rocks, dirt, more logs - meanwhile chase everyone away so they don't see up close what he doing & presto! Private paradise.
I would have literally told him I am breaking no laws I am filming and recording audio I will remain here as long as I like and do as I like and he is welcome to observe me as long as he wishes and please please call the police to report a person fishing a public lake and see how well that works Lastly I would tell him better get USE TO uninvited guests because ASAP after I get home Im going on the internet to brag how I caught DOZENS of fish from not just THIS lake but this EXACT spot AND I am going to post BOTH sat pic of the the spot in the lake from Google Earth AND list the GPS grid #s Then I would cease all verbal interactions with him
since he does not own that spit of land, i would out there cutting chains and towing logs out to a better spot. what? they're his? OK. when you leave them out there, they are abandoned and up for grabs.
Ron you ought to check to see if he planted those plants by his dock. Probably not native to the lake. Fish and Game may make him remove his plants. makes for better fishing by his dock.
Washington state RCW 77.15.210 -- _Obstructing the taking of fish,_ shellfish, or wildlife -- penalty: (1) A person is guilty of obstructing the taking of fish[, shellfish,] or wildlife if the person: b) _Harasses, intimidates, or interferes with an individual engaged in the lawful taking of fish,_ shellfish, or wildlife or lawful predator control with the intent of disrupting lawful pursuit or taking thereof. 77.15.212. Damages due to violation of RCW 77.15.210--Civil action: Any person who is damaged by any act prohibited in RCW 77.15.210 _may bring a civil action to enjoin further violations, and recover damages sustained, including a reasonable attorneys' fee._ The trial court may increase the award of damages to an amount not to exceed _three times the damages sustained._ A party seeking civil damages under this section may recover upon proof of a violation by a preponderance of the evidence. The state of Washington may bring a civil action to enjoin violations of this section. You caught this guy violating the law, on video. Make him pay, and make him also pay your attorney fees, LOLOLOL. TF is he even out there for? No reasonable person would care if someone fishes in a public lake. Yet, he's so upset he got up out of his Lazy Boy and came out to harass you... what a buffoon.
Some people obviously didn't get their ass kicked by their peers often enough as a child. Bullying and putting people in their places creates humble people, most of the time. This guy thinks he's smart and self righteous
@@borbonic or some people got there ass kicked a lot and ran away with there tail between there legs in school and are still doing it today!!@borbonic!!!talkin to you!!wimp
Karen is about spent. You would think that an old person would realize it is better to be kind and friendly. The fisherman was no threat and he could have made a friend. Karen choose to threaten him for what?? Foolish little old man has learned nothing from life.
He just wanted solitude. We work and fight to get to the point where we don't have to, and we can't see the roses we have all around us. A quiet fisherman in a kayak adds to the pleasant morning. It just as easily could have been a moron on a jet ski. We need to relax and embrace others when we retire. The war is over.
On a weekend during the summer i can get as many as 3 or 4 so called fishermen going around all the homeowner's docks looking to video a reaction. When they have a whole lake to fish on. Fishermen You Tupers bunch of Low Lifes.
Ah, but what you say can't be true -- if you find a way to look at the satellite map a little closer, there's no possible way he could see the fisherman from his house (at least 100 yards away, and blocked by trees). Not only that, but the '40th Street boat ramp' and a marina are directly behind the fisherman, with probably 100 boats there. Only a moron would buy waterfront property, when he hates fishermen. That's some kind of mental sickness... like buying a house near an airport when you hate the sound of planes. If he wanted solitude, he would have moved AWAY from the fisherman.
"Oh, I'm just enjoying myself out here in the freedom of the wilderness after just getting out of prison. Haven't felt the water in fifteen years. So, you live HERE, do you?"
Old guy definitely wasn't half as smart as he was acting. And your remarks were one of the first thoughts I had in my mind. Is this idiot trying to start crap when I know where he lives? People walk on the sidewalk in front of my home and I don't harass them. This guy didn't deserve an inch of forgiveness so I didn't give it to him.
@@borbonic maybe you weren’t, but maybe there are 100 other guys each week who are. I’m not defending this asshole in particular, just saying that your analogy with the sidewalk is flawed. I have lived on a popular bass fishing lake in Western Washington before, have had guys lingering out front for hours watching my every move, peering into windows making my gf uncomfortable, letting dogs off boats to drop logs on my lawn, wippin out their weeners to pee etc. If I paid what he does in property taxes I might tell you to get fucked too, even if it is your right to be there and even if it is his choice to live on the water.
The law is clear in Washington wherever theres a public boat launch or public access to any body of water, said body of water does not belong to any one person! It belongs to the public! Even if private structure, patios, pillars, homes or boats , floats affixed in or near the publics water all remains fishable ! In other words u have a right ( w/valid fishing license ) to go wherever that public water goes to fish! Riverine rights !
He does not own the outstretch into the water. I went to the Washington state accessors website and searched "75 Skagit Key, Bellevue, WA 98006" which is his property. The property line stops at his back yard.
@@skunkworksmusicgroup the auditor and assessor websites are great. I use them a lot to make sure I’m not trespassing. You might not figure out the exact locations but it’s good enough, and you can show a person or cop what you looked at, and that you made an effort. There’s no way you’re getting arrested for trespassing when making those kind of efforts
Get lost old man! You’re giving the rest of us older retired guys a bad rep. Well done sir, next time take several of your friends to fish around his makeshift dock
I taught myself a few foreign words (French) that I respond with to people I don't want to talk to. I just repeat them over and over while shrugging and smiling until they give up.
Next time act like you are deaf. When they walk down to the dock smile at them. When they start talking to you just start singing back and keep smiling. Done it twice the reaction is priceless.
@@HubertofLiege No, the law is clear... RCW 77.15.210 Obstructing the taking of fish, shellfish, or wildlife: (1) A person is guilty of obstructing the taking of fish[, shellfish,] or wildlife if the person: (b) Harasses, intimidates, or interferes with an individual engaged in the lawful taking of fish, shellfish, or wildlife or lawful predator control with the intent of disrupting lawful pursuit or taking thereof. And RCW 77.15.212 -- Damages due to violation of RCW 77.15.210-Civil action: Any person who is damaged by any act prohibited in RCW 77.15.210 may bring a civil action to enjoin further violations, _and recover damages sustained, including a reasonable attorneys' fee. The trial court may increase the award of damages to an amount not to exceed three times the damages sustained._ A party seeking civil damages under this section may recover upon proof of a violation by a preponderance of the evidence. The state of Washington may bring a civil action to enjoin violations of this section.
If in 10K years, archeologists were studying our society, one thing would be immediately apparent; there is a wealthy class, a political class (run by the former), and the rest of us.
Looks like he was putting structure out there around his dock to close it in. If you go to get back in and he has it blocked off i would report him. All them downed trees look like they were placed in a border.
@@cuivre2004 you definitely can't dock a boat there. Anyway I was below the normal high water mark. The video clearly shows where the vegetation begins. That's where people can't go by law
Look on the map -- it's directly south of the 40th Street boat ramp and the marina there. It must be pretty good fishing, if he's so keen to prevent anybody from fishing there.
People see someone having a harmless good time and enjoying themselves but are so miserable that they take joy in dragging those people down to their level of misery.
I see these type videos and it seems it’s a northwest or northern state where this happens. I am 60 years old and live in the southeast and have fished all most my whole life. I have never had this problem whatsoever. We actually had a house on Chickamauga lake in Tennessee for years. If I wasn’t in my boat but crappie fishing off our dock I would have conversations with others fishing from their boat. Never a problem!
It wasn't always that way here. It's gotten bad in many ways about the last 20 years as more and more people moved in bringing their politics and views they were running away from. 😢
@raybaby I'm currently making a follow up video now. This will detail all the laws and codes that allow me to fish there. Including methods and information to help other fishermen identify aquatic plants which proves they are at or below the high water mark in fresh water. Some mention of salt water detail as well.
I live on a lake and no one gets mad when fishermen get close to their docks. Most come out and talk to you. If the homeowners are using the dock I don’t go near it,”sunbathing, swimming, fishing”. But everyone waves and appreciates it when you have respect. No homeowner/landowner should act like that.
This old fart has spent his life trying to get everything how he wants it and if something throws that off, he can't handle it. He's a fool. If he were wise, he'd just let the gentleman fish in peace and he would be on his way shortly. But he created the Streisand Effect here basically by harassing this angler. People out here are amazingly stupid.
If you can get to a waterway via a public way, or the water itself, you can be there and a private citizen can't stop you, even if the water is cutting through or adjacent to their land. That's how I've always understood it.
Thanks for the new fishing spot. Definitely going to fish Bill's dock. Is there not a law on maintenance? His dock and the vegetation seem out of control.
I own a house, it has a dock, I walk out every morning with my coffee and occasionally someone is close enough to talk. I always start with good morning and follow up with asking if they had any luck? Finish with.... have a nice day.
I love that area! I used to paddle my SUP around there and especially north of there. I have a question for you. When I’m paddling my board around people who are fishing how much clearance should I give them so I don’t disturb their fishing?
You know all people feel different about space. I suppose as a fisherman myself I stay 20-30 yards from other fisherman. Even some would complain. But I don't suspect a paddleboarder would bother me unless they got inside 10 yards a lot of times. Mostly to steer clear of lines that rise out of the water if a fish strikes as you are passing by. Then you can get tangled in the line. Also you want to avoid hooks in your body. I have had swimmers completely ignore the fact my hooks were within feet of them before. I figured after my warnings that if they got hooked I'd just scold them and cut my line if that happened again. Completely ignoring my repeated warnings
@@borbonic Thanks. I always stay clear of obvious things like lines in the water. I was thinking more of how my surface activity might chase away fish under the water. I think 20 yards is reasonable, even more in open water. The only time it gets to be a problem is when I might be coming into or moving away from shore where I don't have as much choice in my path.
@@rdyer8764 if you're near shore just let them know you need to pass by. Normal humans with any sense of understanding would be just fine with that situation
These people spend a lot of money to have the life they want and think they deserve. That's why they act this way. They want and thought things would be a certain way, but reality soon arrives and then they get pissed off and act like children.
Don’t know what state this is, but in Texas, the State of Texas owns all the public waters, salt and fresh. And the fish and wildlife are owned by the state. So if you’re wading or in a boat on public water, it’s not trespassing.
Would be interesting to find out if that dock he has is even legal because it's on the outlet of Coal Creek. Seems that waterway would or should remain natural. I looked at the map on google and you can see Coal Creek where it goes into Lake Washington, and I presume that dock is right on the north side of Coal Creek. And because the dock is not showing on Google maps again I can only presume the dock has been built recently. It would be interesting to find out.
Stand up to him, That dock may not be on his land. Read up on CFR 33 Title: PART 329 - DEFINITION OF NAVIGABLE WATERS OF THE UNITED STATES 11"(2) Ownership of a river or lake bed or of the lands between high and low water marks will vary according to state law; however, private ownership of the underlying lands has no bearing on the existence or extent of the dominant Federal jurisdiction over a navigable waterbody. "
Show up with a bunch of fishing buddies & let him call the Cops. If his dock is illegal then the State should be made aware. Let him pay for it's removal & fines for building it in the 1st place.😂
I can contest i live 10 minutes from lake Washington. All these rich people that have lake front property think they own the lake infront of there houses.
@@NowOrNeverGaming the good thing is, not everyone is like that guy. One lady implying I'm peeping in windows. What a stretch of reality. I couldn't see over the bushes into any windows. If I could, I would not be peeping on her old decrepit azz
Yep, this is Lake Washington, so the appropriate law is RCW 77.15.210 -- Obstructing the taking of fish, shellfish, or wildlife (1) A person is guilty of obstructing the taking of fish[, shellfish,] or wildlife if the person: (b) _Harasses, intimidates, or interferes with an individual engaged in the lawful taking of fish,_ shellfish, or wildlife or lawful predator control with the intent of disrupting lawful pursuit or taking thereof.
i am so sick of people saying are you a lawyer. I do not have to be a lawyer to know a law. if that is the case then none of us can ever know a law because we are not lawyers.
Montana has great stream access laws. You can go on any river & stream as long as you stay below the high water mark. You can even access from below roads/bridges if there are no public fishing access areas.
Willamette River by us has what is called Green Way which is the 30 year high water mark. This area is public. Many land owners try to claim they own everything right into the water. A friend and I were in a canoe fishing bass in a arm of the Willamette River which is also under water during high water. Guy came out harassing us. We told him we are legally fishing the area because it is in the Green Way. He kept threatening to call police. We told him good we aren't going anywhere. Then tells us he owns the land below and the air above. My friend told him you must be God. He went and got an old Brownie camera that likely did nothing. We posed with our fishing gear still in the Canoe out in the water. When I got home I called the Oregon State Police. Officer told me they have been out there repeatedly telling the guy he can not threaten people to leave. I told him one of these days he is going to mess with the wrong people. Another friend did Duck Hunting in a slough of the Willamette River. Someone put in a Duck Club and claimed ownership of part of the slough. My friend was being harassed and brought a State Police officer with him hunting and they were getting shots over their heads. The officer got out on the duck club property and told the morons one more shot comes over us and I will be making arrests of everyone in here. The Duck Club claimed they did a land swap with the State of Oregon. That is illegal because no one owns the Green Way it is public access. He was going to court to fight it and died of Lung Cancer but friends said they will continue. Not sure what ever happened.
Sorry about losing your friend to cancer. He sounded like he was on the right side of life. It is unfortunate that humans are often so intolerant of others and the laws regarding access to public land and waterways. I figure those Duck Club guys would tolerate people fishing but too damn greedy to claim ownership of everything. Maybe they would be better off with PETA protestors or someone more like them 🙃
Ran into a lot of these people on Lake Washington shoreline. Especially on Mercer Island. The best was the security from BIll Gates new mansion. They said we had to stay 500 feet away from his shoreline.
It's ahole disease. I have fished out front of the Gates complex but I didn't stick around long enough for security goons to harass me. That will be a video for another time but I did fish that location this summer and is in one of my videos. Just passing by for the most part
Yes, I have found that these types of people scheme to capture a chunk of public waterways, for their own personal use. They'll do whatever they can get away with. This crazy old man is actually violating RCW 77.15.210, for harassing a fisherman. He'll keep doing it, until he faces consequences. Which is why you should call the game warden, and get it on the official record.
There are two kinds of jews, this is the type Germany was talking about. He gives a bad name to a few good people. I would see if he pulled a permit to put all that garbage in the water to extend his property. I am guessing he did not since he attempted to make it somewhat natural. It will be a danger to those boats and anything downstream when it gets washed away.
I would simply tell him that nature, hunting and fishing is for every resident of the state to enjoy. If it’s a public lake, he does not own the fish inside of it. Every one does.
I'll probably make a breakdown video of the regulations and laws that permit me to fish in front of his walking deck to inform others. This guy is simply territorial. He even complained to UA-cam in order to get my video removed. Prior to me turning on the camera he was getting extremely testy. As soon as I informed him that he was being filmed he backed off slightly. This guy was just trying to pester me to go away. It turns out he's a well known local banker and attorney. Imfamous for losing millions of dollars in client investments.
I’m sooooo damn sick of watching these rich people bully people out of using lakes , rivers and beaches .. In parts of Florida the people that live in some towns can’t even access the beach because the towns and cities sold it to the rich people who bought the million dollar houses to rent ! You should never be able to own any section of the beach especially if one penny of tax dollars went into beach replenishment .. this is seriously getting out of control ..
In Washington State, you pay taxes on the size of your lot and the structures on it. Why would people with the means to challenge the county, pay taxes on land underwater in the lake? The property line should stop at the shore, I would think.
Generally speaking, you're allowed to fish a public lake or river up to the high water line, regardless of any so-called 'property'. There might be some states with exceptions.
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If you really want to anger them, don't say anything. Do not even acknowledge their existence. You don't owe them an explanation or your time.
Sounds about right
Yep well said ignore Karen’s and hateful miserable meatbags in general
My name is gfursf
Let them make the first move !!!
I think is a universal constant... these types HATE to be ignored.
Drives them absolutely CRAZY... and then they do something foolish.
I'd go back there and continue fishing... because we all know he's gonna come back out.
Just silently fish... with a camera recording everything.
Best case scenario is he accepts that you have a right to be on the water... and stops harassing you.
The worst case scenario is he doesn't... and you have a case to charge him with assault.
And then sue him in civil court (AKA a big settlement... lots of $$$).
He does not own the outstretch into the water. I went to the Washington state accessors website and searched "75 Skagit Key, Bellevue, WA 98006" which is his property. The property line stops at his back yard.
Well it sure doesn’t extend into the waterway.
Edit: if I’m ever this way fishing, I know exactly where I’m going!
It def looks like the property lines run into the riparian way and in reference to the last comment left your property line can extend into the waterway. The thing to look for is the actual apn map as you searched. The zoning type maps may not show all property lines. Funny side note: There are parcels for sale, underwater, at the edge of the San Francisco bay. Subdivided land.
Nothing happened!Waste of time!
Those aren’t legal boundaries but on the website
You might technically own the land under the water but have no right to harrass people while fishing or hunting
The guy is Bill Weinstein, CEO of Oak Harbor Capital. Ironically, he's a lawyer, he should be very aware of the law.
Ah, a jew. Interesting.
@@RC-mi2bpYep. A harvester of sheckles.
I'm sure he's aware of the law and that he's breaking the law. He was badgering me for a bit prior to me turning on the camera. I was ignoring him for some time without saying a word. He's got enough money that he can buy his way into and out of problems. Problems like him harassing fishermen, laying down logs around his property in the lake with huge chains which is likely a violation of ecology statutes and it is questionable if his deck is up to code as well.
@@RC-mi2bpAh, a bigot, interesting…
@@borbonic He doesn't look like he is much of a physical specimen. You should have sent him for a swim.
best revenge is posting the coordinates to that spot on every bass site/channel with pictures of hogs and having every fishermen gor 50 miles flowing that spot up daily
@@johnz5055 in general I only visit that spot in spring. Typically because the bass are that shallow until later in the year when submerged vegetation grows in. Then it's very difficult to fish because of dropping lake level and fish under the mats. I don't typically punch or flip from my kayak. It's easier to go elsewhere and try something different
I know that spot. Might have to take my son fishing there. 😂
@@EarlPickle Same!
Thanks for showing me a new fishing spot. If I’m in the area I will definitely fish that channel.
If you're into mats and thick vegetation, the bay just north has it. Smallmouth also like the rip rap under the bridge
Say hey to the banker for me when you do. Tell him I want my money back. I very specifically remember him mentioning "protection of my capital."
That dock looks suspicious, check the building codes on that
At least obstructing waterways.
Agree. I live on a lake.
Dude probably is a serial killer tbh, check the bottom of the lake
Lol
@@thatdude3977lol
This fool worked his entire life just to own waterfront property. You just get in your kayak and go fishing for the same reasons and feelings that man gets. You win tho cause you have the time to fish and enjoy while he circled his property like a guard dog protecting his life time worth of work. These people will never figure it out because their possessions are the only thing they have. Love to you brother. ❤️
This may be the best comment I have EVER read.
Hey Midnight, I'm all for fishing on public land and will not hunt or fish on someone else's property unless I have their permission. I have worked (hard) all my life and I (will) protect the miniscule possessions I have worked so hard for for regardless who gets offended. I am now retired and enjoy hunting and fishing public waters.
@@jramos7032 I don’t think you understand my point but I don’t really care enough to talk about it further
Probably the same reason residents resent campervans and RVs parked at the beach and other idyllic locations 😏.
Very well-said and great insight. Very wise point you make. I concur completely.
Harrassing fishermen is illegal...look it up 😊
Harassing homeowners from fishermen is illegal.
No, it is a felony to impede anyone from engaging in fishing or hunting. Plus a lot of these fishermen carry so I wouldn't be harassing too many. r@@whatsup7253
@@whatsup7253
Where can I see a video of that?
@@whatsup7253 are you sure about that?
@@whatsup7253 Explain to me like I'm 5 how fishing is harassing anyone
That lady actually highly illegal to harass people who are camping, hunting or fishing. You should press charges against this guy.
Best revenge is to say nothing, drives them crazy!
Yep its like saying FU a hundred times....👍
True, they are used to people responding to their “demands”!!!
For sure look right thru him like he's not there,put headphones in , that'll piss a boomer off like mad
No best revenge is posting the coordinates to that spot on every bass site/channel with pictures of hogs and having every fishermen gor 50 miles flowing that spot up daily
Nothing worse than a male Karen.
A Ken if you will, rich Ken can do whatever he wants, in his mind anyways
Hey don’t breathe he owns the air there too
The Female ones are.
Male Karens are called Darrin
We always called them Dick
I had one the other day. I was wading in a public park. Dude said I'm not allowed to be there, said he would call authorities. I told him it's a crime to harass legal anglers (it is in my province) and to hurry up and call the authorities. Told him to call the FBI (we dont have FBI in Canada, I watch too many movies). He asked how I got where I was. I said I flew.
Authorities came 30 minutes later. Told me to enjoy my fishing, have good day, and stay safe. I fished the spot for another 2 hours.
I always bark back against these idiots. I call their bluff every single time, and every single time I have been in the right. I am not always right, but when it comes to fishing I do my homework first.
Call the FBI :-) yeah I think this guy just built his shiny new dock and doesn't want anyone near it. I found the state constitution article 17 defines that the state owns navigable waters (which is where I was) and he doesn't own that spot. Additionally, we do have a law against harassment of fishermen and I told him I was aware of the law on that issue. He's trying to bluff me into going away.
@@borbonic excellent work dude
That's a total sshole😂🎉 would still be fishing there 👍💯👊😎
I’m only a causal fisherman, not very knowledgeable. I’m on the river a lot though. I’ve never encountered an unpleasant fisherman. They’re some of the most peaceful people I have met. Leave em alone
@borbonic he not only wants his dock, but now he wants a little slice of private lake with it.
Looks at a glance like he's trying to slowly create an artificial bay for himself. Chain some logs, grow some moss & plants on top of them. Slowly over 5 -10 years add some rocks, dirt, more logs - meanwhile chase everyone away so they don't see up close what he doing & presto! Private paradise.
I would have literally told him I am breaking no laws I am filming and recording audio I will remain here as long as I like and do as I like and he is welcome to observe me as long as he wishes and please please call the police to report a person fishing a public lake and see how well that works
Lastly I would tell him better get USE TO uninvited guests because ASAP after I get home Im going on the internet to brag how I caught DOZENS of fish from not just THIS lake but this EXACT spot AND I am going to post BOTH sat pic of the the spot in the lake from Google Earth AND list the GPS grid #s
Then I would cease all verbal interactions with him
Police don't know the laws. They are the last to be called. Game wardens is whp your looking for
Hilarious😂😂😂
since he does not own that spit of land, i would out there cutting chains and towing logs out to a better spot. what? they're his? OK. when you leave them out there, they are abandoned and up for grabs.
Add a geo-cache at the end of his dock.😅
@@BalthazarMyrrh70 Smashing Idea!
Mr Property Owner can't stand that he doesn't also own the water and the fish.
He’s only asking for a 100ft buffer, that’s all 😂😂😂
How about the guy getting charged for dumping 100 logs into the lake. Naturally it's ok. There is no way that wasn't a deliberate makeshift barricade.
Next time, call the police for him harassing a fisherman. With this video and another, it shows a pattern of force.
Police typically dont know or understand fish and game regulations and will more than likely side with the land owner, call fish and game instead.
Good for you for standing up to the people who want to privatize the Lake
Ron you ought to check to see if he planted those plants by his dock. Probably not native to the lake. Fish and Game may make him remove his plants. makes for better fishing by his dock.
None of the fish he caught were native either.
@@SSHitMan LOL..Dumb...
They look like maybe yellow flag iris (Iris pseudacorus) which is listed as a class C invasive weed in Washington
Threatening to call the police when no one is breaking any law should be considered intimidation.
Washington state RCW 77.15.210 -- _Obstructing the taking of fish,_ shellfish, or wildlife -- penalty:
(1) A person is guilty of obstructing the taking of fish[, shellfish,] or wildlife if the person:
b) _Harasses, intimidates, or interferes with an individual engaged in the lawful taking of fish,_ shellfish, or wildlife or lawful predator control with the intent of disrupting lawful pursuit or taking thereof.
77.15.212. Damages due to violation of RCW 77.15.210--Civil action:
Any person who is damaged by any act prohibited in RCW 77.15.210 _may bring a civil action to enjoin further violations, and recover damages sustained, including a reasonable attorneys' fee._ The trial court may increase the award of damages to an amount not to exceed _three times the damages sustained._ A party seeking civil damages under this section may recover upon proof of a violation by a preponderance of the evidence. The state of Washington may bring a civil action to enjoin violations of this section.
You caught this guy violating the law, on video. Make him pay, and make him also pay your attorney fees, LOLOLOL. TF is he even out there for? No reasonable person would care if someone fishes in a public lake. Yet, he's so upset he got up out of his Lazy Boy and came out to harass you... what a buffoon.
He's a criminal banker he should be in jail anyway.
@@Joker75113 possible connections to Antwerp, Hasidic Diamond merchants?
@@Joker75113 many such cases with people who’s name ends with “stein”
@@NateHignogsWeird how people of this particular group seem to think they're chosen by god to own the entire earth or something
Kicked out of 109 countries and counting.
@@Vermino really?
What entitlement looks like!
Some people obviously didn't get their ass kicked by their peers often enough as a child. Bullying and putting people in their places creates humble people, most of the time.
This guy thinks he's smart and self righteous
@@borbonic It's never to late for him to learn!
@@borbonic or some people got there ass kicked a lot and ran away with there tail between there legs in school and are still doing it today!!@borbonic!!!talkin to you!!wimp
@borbonic ur advocating for bullying?
jewish entitlement
Some old people are just miserable. Buddy, you have like 10 years left. Try not to be an A-hole.
I don’t get that. I guess I’ll be lucky to find out what being old is like.
He can't take his dock with him into the grave, either.
Karen is about spent. You would think that an old person would realize it is better to be kind and friendly. The fisherman was no threat and he could have made a friend. Karen choose to threaten him for what?? Foolish little old man has learned nothing from life.
And what does age have to do with it? There’s no 30 year old capable of Karenesque behavior?
"What's your name?"
"Puddin' N' Tain, ask me again I'll tell you the same"
I'm John doe
He just wanted solitude. We work and fight to get to the point where we don't have to, and we can't see the roses we have all around us. A quiet fisherman in a kayak adds to the pleasant morning. It just as easily could have been a moron on a jet ski. We need to relax and embrace others when we retire. The war is over.
On a weekend during the summer i can get as many as 3 or 4 so called fishermen going around all the homeowner's docks looking to video a reaction. When they have a whole lake to fish on. Fishermen You Tupers bunch of Low Lifes.
And yet we still spend trillions on wars that he wants for his favorite country that has nothing to do with us...
I appreciate your sentiment.
Ah, but what you say can't be true -- if you find a way to look at the satellite map a little closer, there's no possible way he could see the fisherman from his house (at least 100 yards away, and blocked by trees).
Not only that, but the '40th Street boat ramp' and a marina are directly behind the fisherman, with probably 100 boats there.
Only a moron would buy waterfront property, when he hates fishermen. That's some kind of mental sickness... like buying a house near an airport when you hate the sound of planes.
If he wanted solitude, he would have moved AWAY from the fisherman.
Check and see if he has a permit for that doc.
That dock looks very questionable
Ignore him. Drives them crazy to not get attention
Finally!!! Someone who is NOT polite to bothersome time-wasting people!!! Ray...I applaud you.
It's not even worth the effort to be polite to a-holes like that. They want confrontation.
"Oh, I'm just enjoying myself out here in the freedom of the wilderness after just getting out of prison. Haven't felt the water in fifteen years. So, you live HERE, do you?"
Old guy definitely wasn't half as smart as he was acting. And your remarks were one of the first thoughts I had in my mind. Is this idiot trying to start crap when I know where he lives?
People walk on the sidewalk in front of my home and I don't harass them. This guy didn't deserve an inch of forgiveness so I didn't give it to him.
@@borbonic Word. If you cut someone off in traffic don't let them see which driveway you pull into. Common sense.
@@alberg7716 I wasn't there for hours on PUBLIC property. He should call the cops instead of starting chit. Too sad for him
@@borbonic maybe you weren’t, but maybe there are 100 other guys each week who are. I’m not defending this asshole in particular, just saying that your analogy with the sidewalk is flawed. I have lived on a popular bass fishing lake in Western Washington before, have had guys lingering out front for hours watching my every move, peering into windows making my gf uncomfortable, letting dogs off boats to drop logs on my lawn, wippin out their weeners to pee etc. If I paid what he does in property taxes I might tell you to get fucked too, even if it is your right to be there and even if it is his choice to live on the water.
@@alberg7716 You're an absolute dolt if you think the two are remotely comparable.
Not a good idea to start crap and let people know where you live, Murphys Law lives!
crap or carp?
Yep, thinking about getting a kayak just to hang out right there and see what he does next.
Awe poor rich guy didn't get his way BOO HOOO😅
Thats a very unhappy man.
His sense of entitlement reflects poorly on his parents.
You are pleasant company , thank you for sharing.
Thank you. I have other videos with zero confrontation. Much more pleasant. Have a great day 👍
I would like to see the permit for that cobbled up boardwalk.
Honestly, it looks like a hazard, or a hazard to navigation.
Like most people with money they don’t think there shit stinks
Amen
"Their"
The law is clear in Washington wherever theres a public boat launch or public access to any body of water, said body of water does not belong to any one person! It belongs to the public! Even if private structure, patios, pillars, homes or boats , floats affixed in or near the publics water all remains fishable ! In other words u have a right ( w/valid fishing license ) to go wherever that public water goes to fish! Riverine rights !
That guy doesn't even own the water under his dock
@@borbonicthat is correct. Likely not the land either. He’s just allowed to build the dock on that land.
He does not own the outstretch into the water. I went to the Washington state accessors website and searched "75 Skagit Key, Bellevue, WA 98006" which is his property. The property line stops at his back yard.
@@skunkworksmusicgroup the auditor and assessor websites are great. I use them a lot to make sure I’m not trespassing. You might not figure out the exact locations but it’s good enough, and you can show a person or cop what you looked at, and that you made an effort. There’s no way you’re getting arrested for trespassing when making those kind of efforts
@@borbonic then call the authorities. you piss me off more than the old millionare
Get lost old man! You’re giving the rest of us older retired guys a bad rep. Well done sir, next time take several of your friends to fish around his makeshift dock
As a Jew, he was born with centuries of 'bad rep' behind him and he's looking to add to it.
I'm not sure how you stay so calm with these people..I wouldn't nearly as polite..
Same types that think you can't walk along a public beach because they have an adjacent property.
I see this over and over again on line, people like this old dude. They have everything but are still mad as hell about something.
I taught myself a few foreign words (French) that I respond with to people I don't want to talk to. I just repeat them over and over while shrugging and smiling until they give up.
Crossed those bridges so many freaking times. Lake Washington the definition of a navigable waterway
Next time act like you are deaf. When they walk down to the dock smile at them. When they start talking to you just start singing back and keep smiling. Done it twice the reaction is priceless.
FU,call the cops.
He's part of the Self-entitled.
Self-Chosen, entitled to land and money, everywhere apparently...
Thanks for the fishing spot tip! :D Bass fishing is a lot of fun!
Sue him and take some of his money. That's the only thing they understand.
He can just burn paper and outspend you, unfortunately
@@HubertofLiege No, the law is clear... RCW 77.15.210 Obstructing the taking of fish, shellfish, or wildlife:
(1) A person is guilty of obstructing the taking of fish[, shellfish,] or wildlife if the person:
(b) Harasses, intimidates, or interferes with an individual engaged in the lawful taking of fish, shellfish, or wildlife or lawful predator control with the intent of disrupting lawful pursuit or taking thereof.
And RCW 77.15.212 -- Damages due to violation of RCW 77.15.210-Civil action:
Any person who is damaged by any act prohibited in RCW 77.15.210 may bring a civil action to enjoin further violations, _and recover damages sustained, including a reasonable attorneys' fee. The trial court may increase the award of damages to an amount not to exceed three times the damages sustained._ A party seeking civil damages under this section may recover upon proof of a violation by a preponderance of the evidence. The state of Washington may bring a civil action to enjoin violations of this section.
If in 10K years, archeologists were studying our society, one thing would be immediately apparent; there is a wealthy class, a political class (run by the former), and the rest of us.
Looks like he was putting structure out there around his dock to close it in. If you go to get back in and he has it blocked off i would report him. All them downed trees look like they were placed in a border.
Should have put you hand in the water and told him I'm stealing you water.
Lick finger and touch dock to claim it.
Jack Meoff is always a good come back when someone like that ask your name.
Okay what dock? I wanna go fish his dock. The lake is right down the street from me.
Immediately south of the marina. Marina is Newport yacht club. Now that's his dock he's on. But I never touched it or got out of the water
@@borbonic Are you confusing the word "dock" and "jetty"?
@@cuivre2004 you definitely can't dock a boat there. Anyway I was below the normal high water mark. The video clearly shows where the vegetation begins. That's where people can't go by law
Look on the map -- it's directly south of the 40th Street boat ramp and the marina there. It must be pretty good fishing, if he's so keen to prevent anybody from fishing there.
They think money buys authority until they run into people who don't stand for shite.
You're absolutely correct. I was willing to let it slide for a bit but he kept on going. Had to put the stop to that
People see someone having a harmless good time and enjoying themselves but are so miserable that they take joy in dragging those people down to their level of misery.
I see these type videos and it seems it’s a northwest or northern state where this happens. I am 60 years old and live in the southeast and have fished all most my whole life. I have never had this problem whatsoever. We actually had a house on Chickamauga lake in Tennessee for years. If I wasn’t in my boat but crappie fishing off our dock I would have conversations with others fishing from their boat. Never a problem!
You must not have many Democrats down there, LOLOLOL.
It wasn't always that way here. It's gotten bad in many ways about the last 20 years as more and more people moved in bringing their politics and views they were running away from. 😢
@raybaby I'm currently making a follow up video now. This will detail all the laws and codes that allow me to fish there. Including methods and information to help other fishermen identify aquatic plants which proves they are at or below the high water mark in fresh water. Some mention of salt water detail as well.
I live on a lake and no one gets mad when fishermen get close to their docks. Most come out and talk to you. If the homeowners are using the dock I don’t go near it,”sunbathing, swimming, fishing”. But everyone waves and appreciates it when you have respect. No homeowner/landowner should act like that.
Yes. Everyone fishes each other dock. That's the way it is around us
Common sense!
Why can't people just mind their own business and leave others alone
This old fart has spent his life trying to get everything how he wants it and if something throws that off, he can't handle it. He's a fool. If he were wise, he'd just let the gentleman fish in peace and he would be on his way shortly. But he created the Streisand Effect here basically by harassing this angler. People out here are amazingly stupid.
If you can get to a waterway via a public way, or the water itself, you can be there and a private citizen can't stop you, even if the water is cutting through or adjacent to their land.
That's how I've always understood it.
Just give a one finger salute and carry on!!!!!!
Thanks for the new fishing spot. Definitely going to fish Bill's dock. Is there not a law on maintenance? His dock and the vegetation seem out of control.
Ignore them, people crazy
This is really some of the best advice anyone could offer. There are so many crazies out here and it's maddening, but it's just not worth engaging.
I own a house, it has a dock, I walk out every morning with my coffee and occasionally someone is close enough to talk. I always start with good morning and follow up with asking if they had any luck? Finish with.... have a nice day.
@@poppycock6572 hello to you 👍
Well , should just make a group fishing trip . Everyone close to washington go there and fish at the same time .
I love that area! I used to paddle my SUP around there and especially north of there. I have a question for you. When I’m paddling my board around people who are fishing how much clearance should I give them so I don’t disturb their fishing?
You know all people feel different about space. I suppose as a fisherman myself I stay 20-30 yards from other fisherman. Even some would complain. But I don't suspect a paddleboarder would bother me unless they got inside 10 yards a lot of times. Mostly to steer clear of lines that rise out of the water if a fish strikes as you are passing by. Then you can get tangled in the line. Also you want to avoid hooks in your body. I have had swimmers completely ignore the fact my hooks were within feet of them before. I figured after my warnings that if they got hooked I'd just scold them and cut my line if that happened again. Completely ignoring my repeated warnings
@@borbonic Thanks. I always stay clear of obvious things like lines in the water. I was thinking more of how my surface activity might chase away fish under the water. I think 20 yards is reasonable, even more in open water. The only time it gets to be a problem is when I might be coming into or moving away from shore where I don't have as much choice in my path.
@@rdyer8764 if you're near shore just let them know you need to pass by. Normal humans with any sense of understanding would be just fine with that situation
These people spend a lot of money to have the life they want and think they deserve. That's why they act this way. They want and thought things would be a certain way, but reality soon arrives and then they get pissed off and act like children.
You nailed it. This guy has had legal problems with the city and his property in the past. It seems like he lives in perpetual conflict.
Don’t know what state this is, but in Texas, the State of Texas owns all the public waters, salt and fresh. And the fish and wildlife are owned by the state. So if you’re wading or in a boat on public water, it’s not trespassing.
Some people are so stupid and got a little money think they own everything and everyone owes them something
Would be interesting to find out if that dock he has is even legal because it's on the outlet of Coal Creek. Seems that waterway would or should remain natural. I looked at the map on google and you can see Coal Creek where it goes into Lake Washington, and I presume that dock is right on the north side of Coal Creek. And because the dock is not showing on Google maps again I can only presume the dock has been built recently. It would be interesting to find out.
Looks like he's trying to block people with those old trees... probably trying to prevent people from fishing Coal Creek (right up near his house).
Stand up to him, That dock may not be on his land. Read up on CFR 33 Title: PART 329 - DEFINITION OF NAVIGABLE WATERS OF THE UNITED STATES 11"(2) Ownership of a river or lake bed or of the lands between high and low water marks will vary according to state law; however, private ownership of the underlying lands has no bearing on the existence or extent of the dominant Federal jurisdiction over a navigable waterbody. "
Good on you. If you can, find out the guy’s name so we can shame him on social media for harassing an honest fisherman for his own selfish reasons.
Show up with a bunch of fishing buddies & let him call the Cops.
If his dock is illegal then the State should be made aware. Let him pay for it's removal & fines for building it in the 1st place.😂
Had this happen before and eveytime the guy said something I would look around like I was hearing voices.
I can contest i live 10 minutes from lake Washington. All these rich people that have lake front property think they own the lake infront of there houses.
@@NowOrNeverGaming the good thing is, not everyone is like that guy.
One lady implying I'm peeping in windows. What a stretch of reality. I couldn't see over the bushes into any windows. If I could, I would not be peeping on her old decrepit azz
That Largemouth at the beginning was the most picturesque Bass I have ever seen
It is illegal to harass hunters and fishermen. Call Fish & Game and/or the sheriff's office.
he wont. he's as bad as the old millionare
Yep, this is Lake Washington, so the appropriate law is RCW 77.15.210 -- Obstructing the taking of fish, shellfish, or wildlife
(1) A person is guilty of obstructing the taking of fish[, shellfish,] or wildlife if the person:
(b) _Harasses, intimidates, or interferes with an individual engaged in the lawful taking of fish,_ shellfish, or wildlife or lawful predator control with the intent of disrupting lawful pursuit or taking thereof.
The old fool probably doesn't realize you're allowed to use his dock if it's out in a public lake. Stand on his dock and fish!
i am so sick of people saying are you a lawyer. I do not have to be a lawyer to know a law. if that is the case then none of us can ever know a law because we are not lawyers.
Since he's a lawyer he wants to see if his adversary is scared away by that. Simple bully mind game approach
"Yea, I read a law book last night"!
Montana has great stream access laws. You can go on any river & stream as long as you stay below the high water mark. You can even access from below roads/bridges if there are no public fishing access areas.
@@BruinHerr-bj7uk a lot is the same here. But not that bridge road thing
If you can get on the water from a public access, then you can go anywhere on the water.
I wonder if he knows it’s illegal to harass sportsman 😂
and that's why I open carry while fishing
I respect that
And that’s why you shouldn’t carry possibility to shoot somebody over fishing right or wrong. You’re an idiot.
Willamette River by us has what is called Green Way which is the 30 year high water mark. This area is public. Many land owners try to claim they own everything right into the water. A friend and I were in a canoe fishing bass in a arm of the Willamette River which is also under water during high water. Guy came out harassing us. We told him we are legally fishing the area because it is in the Green Way. He kept threatening to call police. We told him good we aren't going anywhere. Then tells us he owns the land below and the air above. My friend told him you must be God. He went and got an old Brownie camera that likely did nothing. We posed with our fishing gear still in the Canoe out in the water. When I got home I called the Oregon State Police. Officer told me they have been out there repeatedly telling the guy he can not threaten people to leave. I told him one of these days he is going to mess with the wrong people.
Another friend did Duck Hunting in a slough of the Willamette River. Someone put in a Duck Club and claimed ownership of part of the slough. My friend was being harassed and brought a State Police officer with him hunting and they were getting shots over their heads. The officer got out on the duck club property and told the morons one more shot comes over us and I will be making arrests of everyone in here. The Duck Club claimed they did a land swap with the State of Oregon. That is illegal because no one owns the Green Way it is public access. He was going to court to fight it and died of Lung Cancer but friends said they will continue. Not sure what ever happened.
Sorry about losing your friend to cancer. He sounded like he was on the right side of life. It is unfortunate that humans are often so intolerant of others and the laws regarding access to public land and waterways. I figure those Duck Club guys would tolerate people fishing but too damn greedy to claim ownership of everything. Maybe they would be better off with PETA protestors or someone more like them 🙃
Probably owns a tesla
Definitely the CyberTruk
Hey I own a Tesla 😂 wtf
Only certain types of people own such a piece of shit sorey buddy. A car choice can say a lot about a person@@bestman7776
I wonder if that make shift peer is legal? I would go back numerous times and bring all my fishing friends.
Canoeing fisherman encounters a Common Turdeus Maximus
Ran into a lot of these people on Lake Washington shoreline. Especially on Mercer Island. The best was the security from BIll Gates new mansion. They said we had to stay 500 feet away from his shoreline.
It's ahole disease. I have fished out front of the Gates complex but I didn't stick around long enough for security goons to harass me. That will be a video for another time but I did fish that location this summer and is in one of my videos. Just passing by for the most part
What a bunch BS! Stand up to these a holes!
Whether it’s a lake, a river or the ocean… beautiful scenery brings out the worst in people for some reason.
He's definitely trying some funny business with all those dead tree trunks he had placed in the water
Yes, I have found that these types of people scheme to capture a chunk of public waterways, for their own personal use. They'll do whatever they can get away with.
This crazy old man is actually violating RCW 77.15.210, for harassing a fisherman. He'll keep doing it, until he faces consequences. Which is why you should call the game warden, and get it on the official record.
There are two kinds of jews, this is the type Germany was talking about. He gives a bad name to a few good people.
I would see if he pulled a permit to put all that garbage in the water to extend his property. I am guessing he did not since he attempted to make it somewhat natural. It will be a danger to those boats and anything downstream when it gets washed away.
Dude's wife runs his life....
Hey! Leave us women outta this! 😂
I would simply tell him that nature, hunting and fishing is for every resident of the state to enjoy. If it’s a public lake, he does not own the fish inside of it. Every one does.
I'll probably make a breakdown video of the regulations and laws that permit me to fish in front of his walking deck to inform others.
This guy is simply territorial. He even complained to UA-cam in order to get my video removed. Prior to me turning on the camera he was getting extremely testy. As soon as I informed him that he was being filmed he backed off slightly.
This guy was just trying to pester me to go away.
It turns out he's a well known local banker and attorney. Imfamous for losing millions of dollars in client investments.
go back everyday just to piss him off. maybe hell do something stupid and you can own his property too😂
I’m sooooo damn sick of watching these rich people bully people out of using lakes , rivers and beaches .. In parts of Florida the people that live in some towns can’t even access the beach because the towns and cities sold it to the rich people who bought the million dollar houses to rent ! You should never be able to own any section of the beach especially if one penny of tax dollars went into beach replenishment .. this is seriously getting out of control ..
Next time call the game warden. They get super pissy when hunter harassment is involved. Cue officer petty.
I have the local game wardens card with me. I just call him and he is more than happy to help.
@@Sc-jf3yk they are actually very low on funds, and need to write the tickets to justify their budget. They are begging for easy work. Always record
He's used to calling the shots in all aspects of his life. He can't cope that there's something he can't control.
Precisely. He's filed a privacy complaint about the video earlier today. So now I have to at least blur the face. Talk a BIG cry baby
@@borboniclol
Should be in jail having a name like Weinstein anyway
Fits a pattern. The stereotypes are true
I hope you called fish and wildlife, or whoever’s responsible for enforcing laws against harassing fishermen. This jack@$$ needs to be ticketed
You should keep photo copies of the law with you in the boat and hand them out to know it all smartasses as needed.😅
In Washington State, you pay taxes on the size of your lot and the structures on it. Why would people with the means to challenge the county, pay taxes on land underwater in the lake? The property line should stop at the shore, I would think.
Generally speaking, you're allowed to fish a public lake or river up to the high water line, regardless of any so-called 'property'. There might be some states with exceptions.
Why would the guy care about someone in a boat fishing?
It's obviously some kind of mental illness. Think about it. This is not normal behavior. This is Nutty Karen schiatt.
Some -expletive are so caught up on their property ownership status that they think it permeates beyond their petty little lot lines.
Yep, in general the high water mark is what matters... you can fish, all the way up to that mark. This can vary by state, though.