My wife has a 2020 passport, and I gotta say, it's the best winter vehicle we've ever had. The all wheel drive system in the passport is quite impressive. Admittedly, the whole "off road" thing is a little lame, but these suv's are actually pretty capable with better wheels and tires. The interior is definitely dated and needs an update for sure.
I have a '22 PP TS and it is indeed the second best winter vehicle I have ever owned. My 2005 Nissan Xterra was a beast in the snow and any trail on this planet. I've yet to own anything that could out match it.
I think the interior looks just fine especially if you are using it for mostly outdoor things. You dont want a top notch classy interior on a outdoor vehicle when it will get dirty, dusty, scratched up.
Automakers are consolidating their lineups to remove overlap in sedans but there is overlap galore in the SUV field. You have the compact HR-V, the less compact CR-V, the large Passport and the equally large Pilot
Honda= Garbage! Dont argue & just accept it. I grew up running twin turbos on h22 back in the day & I will never spend a single time on a Honda manufactured after 2013.
You’re right the only sedans now are either sports sedans or mid-large size like Honda Accord and stuff, SUVs it’s almost like you’re choosing which price instead of which size they’re basically the same in all compact to midsize sizes
I am very grateful that the majority of SUV's are never seen on a trail and a trip to Target or Kohl's is the most common way they are used. If all of these vehicles were used off-road, the damage would be catastrophic.
Agreed. I will let KBB do the reviews too if Micah stays completely away from Hondas completely. (He can also do Acuras without mentioning Hondas) (It's because of his stupid pronunciation of the brand).
@@terence4427 which is especially ironic because the very engineering and design of the 4Runner that makes them so great off road also make them a particular sloppy and compromised vehicle when driven on pavement.
Oh yeah it's sad If I'm getting a vehicle that can go off road 4runner tacoma Wrangler Damn Skippy it's going to see dirt Mud Snow The cleanest it will be is when we buy it
@@Offshore1977 the old Tahoes are really rugged and last forever. I'm looking sell my Hyundai accent and get one or a truck of similar age around 1990-2010 range
@Juan L. Most EX-L's are delivered to dealers with AWD and roof rails which brings them essentially to the price of a Trailsport. If you intend to do any light-off roading, it's best to go with the TS because of the tires. Plus, it has other features you don't find on the EX-L (e.g. navigation, fog lights, etc).
JonDZ proved that these can be made just as capable as 4Runners and Jeeps. Even in its stock form it can handle stuff 95% of other SUVs and softroaders would fail miserably at. Its also based on a truck platform (the Ridgeline) unlike many SUVs which use the same platform as sedans. The Passport just needs some decent ATs and a 2 inch lift and it's ready for almost anything.
Wrong, these cannot be made as capable as Jeeps. Also wrong again, the passport is based of the Pilot platform. A platform that has way more in common with a Honda Accord, than a wrangler or F-150 for that matter.
@Mike R. Did you know Toyota says most of their 4runner customers never take the vehicle off road? I agree the TP could use better skid plating and more ground clearance though the reality is most folks won't do more than a little light off roading if anything.
Honda: boring but consistent. Fantastic vehicle that does everything right. Hard to argue with a company that builds long lasting machines, this Passport is no exception especially with the ever vanishing 3.5L V6
I don't quite understand the mentality of modern day consumers. They want vehicles that "look" like they can of off road when in my opinion 95% of these crossovers will never leave the pavement.
I would not touch these until they fix the Infotainment issues in the next revision. People have had the MOST connectors replaced multiple times and they still get crackling/ stereo shutdowns randomly.
Howcome japanese brands keep doing these "sport" or "offroad " packages that are literally ONLY cosmetic crap?? seems cheap and like a scam. Its like the equivalent of putting M badges on a base model BMW or an AMG badge on C300 Mercedes 🤮
@Red River. Not quite. The reviewers don't talk about navigation, fog lights, roof rails, AWD, and other standard features of the TP. Yes, much of the differences are cosmetics but the wheels on the TP alone are a 1500.00 upgrade.
@George Lehman. Not quite. The reviewers do not explain the major differences across the trim lines, and I find this extremely frustrating. For instance, the TP comes with navigation, fog-lights, AWD, roof rails, and other features standard. Plus, the wheels on the TP widens the track of the vehicle and are better for light off roading. I test drove the Elite and Trailsport and the wheels definitely make a difference in the ride of the vehicle.
Its been 6 years since this generation pilot/passport came out, when is Honda doing to do a ground up? This design was barely competitive when it debuted.
The New Ford Explorer is a Beautiful rolling piece of junk that Ford refuses to design right. It’s sad the Explorer looks good but reliability and seat are garbage 🗑
Would be nice if these had a mild hybrid system to just help out in city driving by turning off the engine and accelerating with e-assist. The J series gets bad gas mileage stoplight to stoplight as the VCM doesn't do squat there. Can't really understand why Honda didn't provision this vehicle to be equipped so late in the game - it's like this is what would've been acceptable in 2012, but not in 2022.
No turbos is a blessing. Turbo engines u will be lucky to get 150,000 miles out of it without major repairs. Look at Ford, VW, and Audi turbo just to name a few costly all way need repairs or an engine replacement.
There is a reason Honda and Toyota stick with older designs. Tried-and-true RELIABILITY. New designs and modern tech are great, until you get recalls or even worse, break down. And dealer service departments these days are worse than ever. A "warranty" is only worth so much. With this Honda, you get rock solid reliability and at least it's quick, and decently efficient. The 4Runner on the other hand, although bullet-proof, is a dinosaur which is both slow and terribly inefficient. You can't have everything. I think this Honda strike a sweet spot.
Think twice before buying a Honda. My wife and I just purchased a 2023 Honda Passport and I cannot believe Honda let this thing out of the factory in this condition. Trim and bumpers misaligned. Missing trim clips. I have owned many Hondas over the years including a 20 year old Honda Element which I love - Honda is slipping in build quality - and the dealership is not being helpful at all.
Honda is losing sales with Odyssey so they don’t know what to do with the plant and supplies? So, they came up with Passport 🤦🏻♂️. It is minivan however you cut it. Maybe they should have put AWD on the Odyssey years ago just like the Sienna. If it is not ladder frame, it is not an SUV. It is not a true 4x4…
That’s why the passport is a top seller and also one of the best 2 row suv on the market. You really don’t know what you are talking about also going test drive one before you start yappin you’re mouth.
@@DanielCruz-js4oh the population that buys these mediocre minivan with AWD needs to be educated. I bet these are the same people that looked at Hyundai and KIA.
WTF are you talking about? It's 0-60 time of 6.0 seconds is one of the quickest in the segment. And "floats on deep snow??" Obviously you have to be aware of your ground clearance. It's not meant to plow through a foot of snow. Very few vehicles will.
@@FutureDMZ Car and Driver tested the new Passport AWD to 0-60 in 6.0 seconds. Your old 01 crv has HALF the horsepower (only 146hp) and 0-60 in around 9 seconds (it was slow). Still don't know what you mean by "floats in snow" but this new Passport is a bigger vehicle than your old crv and has a far more advanced AWD system. Performance in snow has a lot to do with tires. Maybe you had dedicated snow tires on your old crv, but mostly it just sounds like you're inflating positive thoughts of the past and being critical of the present. Many people tend to do that as they get older.
@@kevinbreese5739 they both had all season tires and the crv was also half its weight and i never had trouble getting out the hole with it like i do in the passport. the ridgline was really good in the snow. when i say float i mean the tires dont get to the cement as quick or at all compared to other hondas, the passport is not that much better then a 2016 accord in the snow. it eats potholes better then anything though possibly even better then the ridgeline. you dnt have to agree this is my experience base on how and where i drive
@@FutureDMZ Have you tried putting it in sport mode? I think what you are talking about is simply throttle response. The passport is much quicker and faster than your old crv. Don't take my word for it, look up the 0-60 and 1/4 Mike times. Facts are facts. In terms of the floating on snow instead of sinking thru it, that's purely a function of the tires width, tread pattern and compound. Think about it...Will a heavier vehicle press down into the snow or a lighter vehicle? It's all about the specific tires. You might have had really thin tires that were really good in snow on the crv. I can only assume you have a FWD Passport instead of AWD based on your comments. The passports AWD system is one of the best and will make a big difference in the snow, rain, and handling in general.
Tiny, dated infotainment screen. Looks like a minivan. No thanks. Dated dash with lots of hard plastics and cheap materials up front. 22.5mpg is not good. Too expensive. Rather get a CRV for less money.
This brand is as strange as it is senseless. It looks like a Hearst with those big windows, and it has a very hideous front. What is Honda really trying to do with its cars, SUVs and pickup trucks?
Looks like a Hearst? Seriously? Hideous front? The front end looks great, which is pretty much a unanimous opinion. Your senseless opinion has been duly noted and appropriately sent to the trash can.
"Wearing hiking boots to the mall" is pure gold!
That horrid music 🆘🆘🆘
"Simulated skid plates" LOL
I’m dead lol
Hiking boots at the mall haha. That about sums it up.
Thanks Motorweek for another great review!!
My wife has a 2020 passport, and I gotta say, it's the best winter vehicle we've ever had. The all wheel drive system in the passport is quite impressive. Admittedly, the whole "off road" thing is a little lame, but these suv's are actually pretty capable with better wheels and tires. The interior is definitely dated and needs an update for sure.
I have a '22 PP TS and it is indeed the second best winter vehicle I have ever owned. My 2005 Nissan Xterra was a beast in the snow and any trail on this planet. I've yet to own anything that could out match it.
I think the interior looks just fine especially if you are using it for mostly outdoor things. You dont want a top notch classy interior on a outdoor vehicle when it will get dirty, dusty, scratched up.
Great to see John in his prime, fantastic review as always!
Automakers are consolidating their lineups to remove overlap in sedans but there is overlap galore in the SUV field. You have the compact HR-V, the less compact CR-V, the large Passport and the equally large Pilot
Honda= Garbage! Dont argue & just accept it. I grew up running twin turbos on h22 back in the day & I will never spend a single time on a Honda manufactured after 2013.
Yeah because suvs are very popular and profitable and people want more choices.
You’re right the only sedans now are either sports sedans or mid-large size like Honda Accord and stuff, SUVs it’s almost like you’re choosing which price instead of which size they’re basically the same in all compact to midsize sizes
@@desi4lyfe379 nah. you’re just dead wrong. honda is reliable, has good resale value, fast, and so many more.
@@dazednconfusedrn I will never buy any newer Honda!
Honda has proven that they can make the most capable front wheel drive off-roaders Ridgeline, MDX, pilot, passport and RDX.❤😂😢😮😅
I am very grateful that the majority of SUV's are never seen on a trail and a trip to Target or Kohl's is the most common way they are used. If all of these vehicles were used off-road, the damage would be catastrophic.
Agreed. I will let KBB do the reviews too if Micah stays completely away from Hondas completely. (He can also do Acuras without mentioning Hondas) (It's because of his stupid pronunciation of the brand).
Great points. Did you know Toyota says MOST buyers of the 4runner never take them off road? Could you imagine?
I don't think that's the purpose. Off-road is always secondary. Only a few live on off road areas.
@@terence4427 which is especially ironic because the very engineering and design of the 4Runner that makes them so great off road also make them a particular sloppy and compromised vehicle when driven on pavement.
Oh yeah it's sad
If I'm getting a vehicle that can go off road
4runner tacoma
Wrangler
Damn Skippy it's going to see dirt
Mud
Snow
The cleanest it will be is when we buy it
Love that automakers are catering more to off readers. Gets tired of seeing regular jellybean shaped CUV’s.
Then get a jeep wrangler
@@UnionPacific1997 I do have one. But maybe I want something that is not a Jeep.
@@Offshore1977 the old Tahoes are really rugged and last forever. I'm looking sell my Hyundai accent and get one or a truck of similar age around 1990-2010 range
I would just buy a EX-L, they're well enough equipped.
@Juan L. Most EX-L's are delivered to dealers with AWD and roof rails which brings them essentially to the price of a Trailsport. If you intend to do any light-off roading, it's best to go with the TS because of the tires. Plus, it has other features you don't find on the EX-L (e.g. navigation, fog lights, etc).
JonDZ proved that these can be made just as capable as 4Runners and Jeeps. Even in its stock form it can handle stuff 95% of other SUVs and softroaders would fail miserably at. Its also based on a truck platform (the Ridgeline) unlike many SUVs which use the same platform as sedans. The Passport just needs some decent ATs and a 2 inch lift and it's ready for almost anything.
Wrong, these cannot be made as capable as Jeeps. Also wrong again, the passport is based of the Pilot platform. A platform that has way more in common with a Honda Accord, than a wrangler or F-150 for that matter.
@@klwarhousego watch the videos he's referencing and RE-READ his comment. He's 100% right.
@@sleeksilver 100% right that a passport can be made as capable as a wrangler?
saw one today at a local Honda dealership and they wanted a $4995 make up I turned around and walked away
I’d have taken their free water bottles, left a stinky deuce in the restroom, *then* I would’ve turned around and walked away.
I LOVE IT!!! ADD SOME AFTERMARKET UPGRADES AND IT WILL BE AWESOME!!!! GREAT VIDEO AND THANKS FOR SHARING!!!
I love this car, wanna buy one❤️
Will be hard to beat the Subaru Forester Wilderness edition with 9.2 inches ground clearance and real skid plates.
Ahh yes... simulated skid plates to protect against simulated obstacles.
Very nice SUV but Trailsport is pointless if it can't actually go off road.
@Mike R. Did you know Toyota says most of their 4runner customers never take the vehicle off road? I agree the TP could use better skid plating and more ground clearance though the reality is most folks won't do more than a little light off roading if anything.
@@terence4427
Just looking for options.
@@mikeriv60 , Got it
Honda: boring but consistent. Fantastic vehicle that does everything right. Hard to argue with a company that builds long lasting machines, this Passport is no exception especially with the ever vanishing 3.5L V6
Will sell like hotcakes
Honda has simulated skid plates, Toyota has simulated hood scoops! Just 1 question.........WHY? :-()
Simulated skid plates??
They totally Reimagine the Honda passport
Ok What's up with M/W showing 2 different wheels on the same passport and 1 seen it Has 2 different wheels put together,,,, I Miss Something?????
“Simulated”skid plates
I don't quite understand the mentality of modern day consumers. They want vehicles that "look" like they can of off road when in my opinion 95% of these crossovers will never leave the pavement.
99.9%
Yup, you're correct!
And the departure from sedans to overly obsessive impulsive purchase of SUVs, CUVs, etc.
@@tekkenmaster123 Do sidewalks count?
@@jk-qf3lt yes
They need to get rid of the piano black interior pieces
You're spending 4-5 grand on literally cosmetic stickers and pieces of plastic.
@@terence4427 You're spending more money for smaller wheels? LOL, you aren't very bright.
Education has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence, Terrence. The fact you think that proves my original point.
Which is why most people overlook the EXL trim it has everything but the hvac controls for the back seats lol
@@MeliorIlle Offroading is better with smaller wheels numnuts. More sidewall flex and control.
Any more Hondas getting the TrailSport treatment e.g. new-gen CR-V?
I've heard yes in the near future
I would not touch these until they fix the Infotainment issues in the next revision. People have had the MOST connectors replaced multiple times and they still get crackling/ stereo shutdowns randomly.
Not true in my experience with 2021 Passport. No issues at all with the infotainment.
@@jimduncan6234 it might be luck of the drawl or perhaps they have put a better solution in place. There are TSBs on this
John Davis💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
They need to put a driver middle console arm rest. Come on Honda. Not those little handles that come down. For bigger guys..🤔
I bet the original passport was better at off-roading
The Isuzu-based model with the actual low range transfer case?
When I was looking to buy a new vehicle, someone had recommended this one to me. I’m glad I skipped it and just got a Toyota 4Runner.
This would look nice as a 2-door. It just looks like a shortened Pilot as a 4-door.
He said hyundai
It's a great SUV.
Howcome japanese brands keep doing these "sport" or "offroad " packages that are literally ONLY cosmetic crap??
seems cheap and like a scam. Its like the equivalent of putting M badges on a base model BMW or an AMG badge on C300 Mercedes 🤮
@Red River. Not quite. The reviewers don't talk about navigation, fog lights, roof rails, AWD, and other standard features of the TP. Yes, much of the differences are cosmetics but the wheels on the TP alone are a 1500.00 upgrade.
4:00 9 speed and poor MPG sucks.
Looks nice otherwise.
On a 2000 mile trip to national parks in SE Utah, got just over 25mpg. We're quite happy with
I guess this is one of those ‘nothing to see here’ videos. It’s almost just a new color with floor mats.
@George Lehman. Not quite. The reviewers do not explain the major differences across the trim lines, and I find this extremely frustrating. For instance, the TP comes with navigation, fog-lights, AWD, roof rails, and other features standard. Plus, the wheels on the TP widens the track of the vehicle and are better for light off roading. I test drove the Elite and Trailsport and the wheels definitely make a difference in the ride of the vehicle.
Did he say ha Hyundai
Its been 6 years since this generation pilot/passport came out, when is Honda doing to do a ground up? This design was barely competitive when it debuted.
Looks like a 2014 vehicle
Yup, and they're consumers like me who prefer that look to what you commonly see on the road today.
The back resembles the Explorer
No it doesn't
I think the back resembles a 99-13 Subaru Forester, especially the tail lights
The New Ford Explorer is a Beautiful rolling piece of junk that Ford refuses to design right. It’s sad the Explorer looks good but reliability and seat are garbage 🗑
Would be nice if these had a mild hybrid system to just help out in city driving by turning off the engine and accelerating with e-assist. The J series gets bad gas mileage stoplight to stoplight as the VCM doesn't do squat there. Can't really understand why Honda didn't provision this vehicle to be equipped so late in the game - it's like this is what would've been acceptable in 2012, but not in 2022.
$45 for a decade old power train. I've been a Honda buyer for years but the current crop of vehicles is very mediocre.
No turbos is a blessing. Turbo engines u will be lucky to get 150,000 miles out of it without major repairs. Look at Ford, VW, and Audi turbo just to name a few costly all way need repairs or an engine replacement.
@@natelove187 VCM in honda engines are not reliable not to mention it has timing belt.
There is a reason Honda and Toyota stick with older designs. Tried-and-true RELIABILITY. New designs and modern tech are great, until you get recalls or even worse, break down. And dealer service departments these days are worse than ever. A "warranty" is only worth so much. With this Honda, you get rock solid reliability and at least it's quick, and decently efficient. The 4Runner on the other hand, although bullet-proof, is a dinosaur which is both slow and terribly inefficient. You can't have everything. I think this Honda strike a sweet spot.
Nobody cares about the energy impact score.
seems way overpriced
I agree. A CRV has like 2 cubic feet of cargo space less than this, gets better MPG, and undercuts it by 10k the passport is kind of redundant
Think twice before buying a Honda. My wife and I just purchased a 2023 Honda Passport and I cannot believe Honda let this thing out of the factory in this condition. Trim and bumpers misaligned. Missing trim clips.
I have owned many Hondas over the years including a 20 year old Honda Element which I love - Honda is slipping in build quality - and the dealership is not being helpful at all.
Honda is losing sales with Odyssey so they don’t know what to do with the plant and supplies? So, they came up with Passport 🤦🏻♂️. It is minivan however you cut it. Maybe they should have put AWD on the Odyssey years ago just like the Sienna. If it is not ladder frame, it is not an SUV. It is not a true 4x4…
Have you test driven this vehicle? I have and it's nothing of the sorts. BTW, I've owned a minivan. Doesn't resemble it closely.
That’s why the passport is a top seller and also one of the best 2 row suv on the market. You really don’t know what you are talking about also going test drive one before you start yappin you’re mouth.
@@DanielCruz-js4oh the population that buys these mediocre minivan with AWD needs to be educated. I bet these are the same people that looked at Hyundai and KIA.
Looks dated needs redesign asap
i hate mine, no pick up at all and floats on deep snow
WTF are you talking about? It's 0-60 time of 6.0 seconds is one of the quickest in the segment. And "floats on deep snow??" Obviously you have to be aware of your ground clearance. It's not meant to plow through a foot of snow. Very few vehicles will.
@@kevinbreese5739 my 01 crv was more responsive and better in snow. assort def not 0-60 in 6 seconds its 6.5 lol
@@FutureDMZ Car and Driver tested the new Passport AWD to 0-60 in 6.0 seconds. Your old 01 crv has HALF the horsepower (only 146hp) and 0-60 in around 9 seconds (it was slow). Still don't know what you mean by "floats in snow" but this new Passport is a bigger vehicle than your old crv and has a far more advanced AWD system. Performance in snow has a lot to do with tires. Maybe you had dedicated snow tires on your old crv, but mostly it just sounds like you're inflating positive thoughts of the past and being critical of the present. Many people tend to do that as they get older.
@@kevinbreese5739 they both had all season tires and the crv was also half its weight and i never had trouble getting out the hole with it like i do in the passport. the ridgline was really good in the snow. when i say float i mean the tires dont get to the cement as quick or at all compared to other hondas, the passport is not that much better then a 2016 accord in the snow. it eats potholes better then anything though possibly even better then the ridgeline. you dnt have to agree this is my experience base on how and where i drive
@@FutureDMZ Have you tried putting it in sport mode? I think what you are talking about is simply throttle response. The passport is much quicker and faster than your old crv. Don't take my word for it, look up the 0-60 and 1/4 Mike times. Facts are facts. In terms of the floating on snow instead of sinking thru it, that's purely a function of the tires width, tread pattern and compound. Think about it...Will a heavier vehicle press down into the snow or a lighter vehicle? It's all about the specific tires. You might have had really thin tires that were really good in snow on the crv. I can only assume you have a FWD Passport instead of AWD based on your comments. The passports AWD system is one of the best and will make a big difference in the snow, rain, and handling in general.
Ummmm… I m good. It’s 2022 going on 2023. Honda cannot be serious🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏼🤦🏼. But I get it sucker born every minute. This is a 2018 honda
Tiny, dated infotainment screen. Looks like a minivan. No thanks. Dated dash with lots of hard plastics and cheap materials up front. 22.5mpg is not good. Too expensive. Rather get a CRV for less money.
This brand is as strange as it is senseless. It looks like a Hearst with those big windows, and it has a very hideous front. What is Honda really trying to do with its cars, SUVs and pickup trucks?
@@terence4427 Who cares, it still sucks.
@@terence4427 Yeah, whatever.
Looks like a Hearst? Seriously? Hideous front? The front end looks great, which is pretty much a unanimous opinion. Your senseless opinion has been duly noted and appropriately sent to the trash can.
Spend your money somewhere else.