Heyo, one of the builders of Hypnovision here- this was definitely a learning experience, as the bot “finished” being built at the event and could barely drive (obviously). Since then, we’ve got the spinup to be a lot more reliable and we can actually drive consistently now. If this were a real fight, Cheesecake would have clobbered us, but I’m hoping to see this fight again when we’re both in full working order!
@@watsmyu989 This is a very good idea, only issue is that 90% of events run arenas with wood or just non metal floors. We have only competed at one event with a metal floor over the 3 years we have been competing.
I love the "Alex" branded handle on the weapon lock! With a bot named "Hypnovision" I was kinda expecting a spiral printed on the top plate of the shell spinner, maybe next time. Have you tried printing the motor mounts out of a more compliant plastic, like PETG? A bit of shock dampening could fix a lot of issues where the current mounts just shatter.
Maybe you could print some of the parts in flex filament to absorb the impact forces better. Some printers and slicers have the option to include a filament switch in the gcode file, maybe yours does too.
I wonder how well hypnovision would go with a clutched flywheel, so the driver could select how engaged the weapon would be. Could potentially allow for much faster spin up times between collisions if it's dialled in.
Nothing can defeat the upside down lawnmowers but themselves. Their only counter is wedges that might tank enough hits for the lawnmowers to break themselves.
What was the arcing that occurred around 3:49? Couldn’t quite tell if it was in the arena or a reflection in the plexi from somewhere behind the camera.
Seems like hypnovision's biggest weakness is being bullied while it tries to spin up so i hope they have a solution for avoiding contact while charging
Cheesecake's record (as of video) Official fights: 35(31)-12(6) Exhibition fights 0(0)-1(1) Great my record keeping just got more complicated, jk. Any which way interesting to see how Alex makes improvement based on this fight.
@@kokofan50 I know there are weight-related restrictions and rules, but when you notice problems it often means you have to change your approach or equipment He wants to work on his engine mount because it is breaking but that's not the only problem his "weapon" takes damage very often (not just in this fight) A simple (and relatively lightweight) solution would be soft armor But you would still have to try it out to be able to say how well it works
I pretty much stopped watching RobotWars because of the spinners. All they did back then was spin up and drive to the enemy and boom, enemy broken. The winner would be the spinner with the biggest motor, if you were not a spinner you had lost the fight. Consequently all tbhe interesting fights where between the losers. At one point a spinner knocked a piece of metal off it's opponent and it went through the first layer of safetyglass and embedded itself in the second layer. A little harder and it would have landed in the audience. Nobody seemd to care, that's why you have two eyes, right? I much prefer the good old times when people were coming up with new weapon systems and had to actually fight to win.
If you're talking about the side plate of Aftershock that got ripped off vs Carbide, it got stuck in the first layer of the polycarbonate. Even if it went through the first layer, it would've slowed down enough to bounce off the 2nd layer. At no point was the audience in danger. Safety record in western world robot combat (EU, NA but also China and South Korea) has been pretty good for the past few decades, with the only really dangerous situations happening in the very beginning (mid 90s) when people didn't realise how dangerous these bots could become. Since then there have been gigantic improvements in arena safety. And now places with a lot fewer resources like Russia, Brazil, India and Pakistan have competitions in fully enclosed arenas that are safe for spectators and competitors alike. The weapons are limited by tip speed so whatever shrapnel flies off it gets caught by the essentially bulletproof polycarbonate walls, there is simply no danger to the audience. The only time I can recall in the past ~20 years where something potentially dangerous happened was at Robogames a year ago (Terrortops vs Manta if you want to look it up) where a fork got yeeted off a bot, launched in the air and crashed through the ceiling of the box, landing near the audience. Turned out that the panels for the ceiling of the box were improperly stored after the last event (in 2019) and were UV damaged to the point of becoming brittle. All the panels directly facing the audience were new, it's just that for the ceiling they re-used a couple of panels which was a bad mistake, but nobody got hurt and they learned a bunch about storing polycarb panels. And about the spinners? Yeah seeing an endless stream of 4 wheel drive verts can get a bit boring at times, but there are plenty of innovations still happening. Counter-gyro systems so the bot doesn't lift its sides when turning, wedges that can properly bully horizontal spinners around, people are building bots that can take a full hit but keep going and there are plenty of non-kinetic energy bots that still can do very well in full competition. The UK live circuit (Extreme Robots) is basically split between kinetic energy weapons and other weapons like hammers or flippers, with the latter having a ton of fun matches while the kinetic bots have a much lower spin speed (125 mph tip speed) to keep the energies in check.
Heyo, one of the builders of Hypnovision here- this was definitely a learning experience, as the bot “finished” being built at the event and could barely drive (obviously). Since then, we’ve got the spinup to be a lot more reliable and we can actually drive consistently now. If this were a real fight, Cheesecake would have clobbered us, but I’m hoping to see this fight again when we’re both in full working order!
Great to hear! Best of luck with your bot.
Cool! Hear me out tho, add neodymium magnets to the bottom of the bot for metal arena fights, trust me when I say it makes your bot horrifying
@@watsmyu989 This is a very good idea, only issue is that 90% of events run arenas with wood or just non metal floors. We have only competed at one event with a metal floor over the 3 years we have been competing.
I feel you there with finishing bots at competitions
Thank you so much again for allowing me to keep testing my spin up! Now we just need a legit rematch where you won't have to hold back💜🧀
Hypnovision didn't attack once. It was only able to hit Cheesecake, whenever Cheesecake took the initiative. Clear winner Cheesecake. 💪
I love the "Alex" branded handle on the weapon lock!
With a bot named "Hypnovision" I was kinda expecting a spiral printed on the top plate of the shell spinner, maybe next time.
Have you tried printing the motor mounts out of a more compliant plastic, like PETG?
A bit of shock dampening could fix a lot of issues where the current mounts just shatter.
Can I just say that "Dulce De Lucha" is just such a perfect name! 🤣
It is no longer Dulce De lucha it's Don't say De lucha
Who doesn't love a bit of cheesecake
I have been loving the upgrades to cheesecake!!! Every time he is taken out, he is reincarnated even stronger!!! Good luck ahead.
Maybe you could print some of the parts in flex filament to absorb the impact forces better. Some printers and slicers have the option to include a filament switch in the gcode file, maybe yours does too.
I need more content!!! I love what you do so much and this type of content is so hard to find, thanks a ton!!
I LOVE THESE VDIDEOS BRO YOU EARN A SUB
Sounds like it might be time to have 2 builds of cheesecake. :)
Been waiting for now cheesecake for weeks! Wooot!
They gotta sweep that arena out lol.
Fiber glass resin to build the mounts could strengthen them.
I always told myself that if I get really hard and still work I would yell "I didn't hear no bell!" at least once or twice
I wonder how well hypnovision would go with a clutched flywheel, so the driver could select how engaged the weapon would be.
Could potentially allow for much faster spin up times between collisions if it's dialled in.
Nothing can defeat the upside down lawnmowers but themselves. Their only counter is wedges that might tank enough hits for the lawnmowers to break themselves.
love cheesecake! keep on kickin buddy
Tombstone Vs 200 Cheesecakes. Who would win?
“I didn’t hear no bell! 🔔 “
What was the arcing that occurred around 3:49? Couldn’t quite tell if it was in the arena or a reflection in the plexi from somewhere behind the camera.
That was Hypno’s weapon grinding against the arena floor as it spun down
Thanks for sharing.
Seems like hypnovision's biggest weakness is being bullied while it tries to spin up so i hope they have a solution for avoiding contact while charging
YES! The time is 12:33am and i am hyped up on AI coding and 3d printing... and my favorite combat robot fighter has posted a video!
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These videos are awesome
Love Cheesecake
Would it be possible to have crumple zones?
Cheesecake's record (as of video)
Official fights:
35(31)-12(6)
Exhibition fights
0(0)-1(1)
Great my record keeping just got more complicated, jk. Any which way interesting to see how Alex makes improvement based on this fight.
Where's the Sweet Tooth?!?! I would have gotten under Hypno and tried to flip him
gotta break ot down to build to stronger
Hypnovision needs a lot of work.
How about armor for the motor?
(It doesn't even have to be made of metal)
Weight
@@kokofan50
I know there are weight-related restrictions and rules, but when you notice problems it often means you have to change your approach or equipment
He wants to work on his engine mount because it is breaking
but that's not the only problem
his "weapon" takes damage very often (not just in this fight)
A simple (and relatively lightweight) solution would be soft armor
But you would still have to try it out to be able to say how well it works
@@TAB_100 cheesecake is already near maxed out in weight. Enough armor to properly protect the motor will definitely make cheesecake too heavy.
Go cheesecake!
Can never get enough Cheescake.
I pretty much stopped watching RobotWars because of the spinners. All they did back then was spin up and drive to the enemy and boom, enemy broken. The winner would be the spinner with the biggest motor, if you were not a spinner you had lost the fight. Consequently all tbhe interesting fights where between the losers.
At one point a spinner knocked a piece of metal off it's opponent and it went through the first layer of safetyglass and embedded itself in the second layer. A little harder and it would have landed in the audience. Nobody seemd to care, that's why you have two eyes, right?
I much prefer the good old times when people were coming up with new weapon systems and had to actually fight to win.
Mature metas can be boring
If you're talking about the side plate of Aftershock that got ripped off vs Carbide, it got stuck in the first layer of the polycarbonate. Even if it went through the first layer, it would've slowed down enough to bounce off the 2nd layer. At no point was the audience in danger.
Safety record in western world robot combat (EU, NA but also China and South Korea) has been pretty good for the past few decades, with the only really dangerous situations happening in the very beginning (mid 90s) when people didn't realise how dangerous these bots could become. Since then there have been gigantic improvements in arena safety. And now places with a lot fewer resources like Russia, Brazil, India and Pakistan have competitions in fully enclosed arenas that are safe for spectators and competitors alike.
The weapons are limited by tip speed so whatever shrapnel flies off it gets caught by the essentially bulletproof polycarbonate walls, there is simply no danger to the audience.
The only time I can recall in the past ~20 years where something potentially dangerous happened was at Robogames a year ago (Terrortops vs Manta if you want to look it up) where a fork got yeeted off a bot, launched in the air and crashed through the ceiling of the box, landing near the audience. Turned out that the panels for the ceiling of the box were improperly stored after the last event (in 2019) and were UV damaged to the point of becoming brittle. All the panels directly facing the audience were new, it's just that for the ceiling they re-used a couple of panels which was a bad mistake, but nobody got hurt and they learned a bunch about storing polycarb panels.
And about the spinners? Yeah seeing an endless stream of 4 wheel drive verts can get a bit boring at times, but there are plenty of innovations still happening. Counter-gyro systems so the bot doesn't lift its sides when turning, wedges that can properly bully horizontal spinners around, people are building bots that can take a full hit but keep going and there are plenty of non-kinetic energy bots that still can do very well in full competition. The UK live circuit (Extreme Robots) is basically split between kinetic energy weapons and other weapons like hammers or flippers, with the latter having a ton of fun matches while the kinetic bots have a much lower spin speed (125 mph tip speed) to keep the energies in check.
Battlebots it better, in my opinion.
Mmm HypnoCake :D
Second comment team!!!