First Ride On $700 Honda cr250 Dirt Bike. Will It Survive?
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- I take my $700 1986 Honda cr250 out to some land to take it for the first test drive since the repairs. Will this dirt bike survive its first ride? #Honda, #2stroke, #250cc,
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This bike has come a long way since I first bought it. It was great to finally take it for a ride! More to come on this bike!
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Yeah I'm fixing up an 82 cr250
I am very impressed
Pretty decent 85. I have had a few myself. You should try to find a 92 thru 95. They were one of the hardest hitting cr250s that I've had out of 88 up to 02.
2vintage re jet the Carburetor
I still thinki these look sick. 84-87 some of my fav. I'm an 80's kid.
My favorite Hondas those years
Most would probably think your biased due to nostalgia but I was born in 96 and think these bikes look drop dead gorgeous, not saying new bikes don’t look good or aggressive or whatever but these bikes will always have that free spirited rebel look that’s just cool as shit.
I agree
This had to be one of my favorite builds from you in a while
same, I enjoy watching dirt bikes more than quads.
@@roberts2760 me too
I’m 12 it’s not a build it’s a repair
He doesn't build shit. He gets great bikes that are worn out does a little bit of wrenching buys a couple of parts and that's it. He's pretty good doing what he does but needs to pay attention to detail. If he would do restorations he would get a lot more for these bikes.
@@Isaac-xn3bv go play Mx atv on Xbox little kid
The new bike are works of art with almost every details brought as close to perfection as possible and i still find those old 2stroke liquid cooled bike sexy AF!!
Here to read all comments on how you will need to adjust Carb :-)
Check the choke to make sure its opening and closing all the way.
Liked this build alot. I have always loved that era of dirtbikes.
The choke is the first thing I thought of
Someone made this comment already. I agree, the needle needs adjusting. If needle clip is on second position, just move it up to 1st position. Or if it’s on 3rd position, move it up to 2nd position. I had this same issue on my cr250. I did everything. Rebuilt the card new reeds all that. Only thing I didn’t do was move the needle position. Since after all that work, the issue still existed, I checked the needle. It was in 2nd position so I moved it up to 1st position. Problem was solved. Not saying this is definitely your issue but worth trying.
I'd try some adjustment on the carb before re jetting. Sounded pretty good. Airscrew and needle height adjustment might get you bang on. But if it seems to be leaning out on the high end a bigger main will probably be the ticket. Nice old Honda. I remember when these were all over the place. Great to see one being saved
That's the bad ass cr 250 same year almost killed me
Sweet old bike, clutch seems to be slipping some but good to see the old girl ripping.
The red rocket lives again. Good job on this one Joe definitely a classic yet still a beast of a bike . 💪🏻
Ya I was the one who commented on the ATAC chamber below the pipe. That has a valve in it that gets carbon fouled and needs to be cleaned. It was Honda’s first attempt at a power valve. 1986 changed to the HPP (Honda Power Port) motor. If it gets fouled it stops operating correctly and can be a cause of your bogging down in the lower gears. Carb needs to be cleaned as well and check your reeds. Good luck.
Loving your videos! Learning a lot from them, thank you.👌 One tip when bleeding the brake line, you should close the bleed nipple bolt off whilst holding the brake lever fully closed, otherwise you're just moving the fluid and air to and fro without pumping the air completely out of the lines. So to summarise - 1) open bleed nipple 2) Pull brake lever in and hold 3) close the bleed nipple 4) release brake lever 5) Repeat until bled.
Definitely look into the needle height/condition, it's breaking up on the transition between pilot and main jet 👍 sounded sweet WOT (I know this is an old video but thought I'd comment)
Damn , those handlebars are bent AF
Lol and probably needs to loosen the tree and make sure it’s straight and put some bars on it I hate bent bars
I have had this problem with my bikes I have broke a couple kickstarters as well... I am kinda strong
That is the way it suppose to be, so it can be easier to turn...lol
Best way to bleed the brake is get big syringe and little hose and put it on bleeder valve and push brake fluid up thru line to reservoir.
Gravity feed in reverse. That's right 👍
Get a new plug, run it only initial to mid throttle, get the plug reading after that. Then get another new plug, run full throttle, kill start after full-throttle run, get the plug reading then. This will narrow down which jetting is at fault, low speed jet or high speed jet. I'm willing to bet it's too rich somewhere based on your plug reading, black is rich, brown is just right, white is lean. Very nice bike, I'd love it in my shed if I could.
To the guy that tweeked those bars RIP
I love the 250s. All makes. I redid an RM 250 last year. 1998. It rips love it. God bless.
RM is my favorite
My 1st's: - Clean out ATAC immediatly..reed valves attended to/observed.
That is my favorite bike of all time. I had an '89 CR250R, to this day that was the most frightening machine that I have ever owned. That CR sounds soooooooo good!
Try a 500 bro lol.
I also had that 89, it was hondas best year for powerband and only had 5 gears, the powerband was out of this fkn world insane.
If ya wanna do it right you need to pressure test that engine it a pretty simple thing to make to make sure you have no air leaks. Also that looks to be a PJ Keihin carb missing the thumb wheel twisting it should adjust the idle circuit. Curious too know what jetting it has. When a bike is breaking up like that at full operating temp its rich. Jetting can be tricky. I would suggest air leak test it and if good, find the OEM jetting and start there with that pipe and a factory air box it should only need a main jet size and maybe a pilot jet change or a turn out on the pilot screw. Also make sure the needle matches what it was supposed to have. These old bike get carb swapped all the time. It could be for another bike who knows.
Well he got it halfway running right...time to sell
You need a lesson on bleeding brakes for sure !! Nice video .
I was thinking the same thing
@@junkhondas481 is
Most Japanese stuff was junk kawasaki worst
Im pretty sure those are ment to be at 32:1. Try that before jetting.
you're right !
Doesn’t matter a two stroke will run at 40-1 mixture all day long my bike I run it 40-1 and add a little more to the gas it’s not a gas issue it’s a carb or a air leak issue trust me my bike runs fine at 40-1
@@supermairo1716 you trail riding or track? Was told mixtures matter depending on what you’re doing. I’m curious to try 40:1 I been at 32:1 now. We trail ride hill climbs jumps, and some open track lines,
More oil or less oil has nothing to do with lean or rich . Lean or rich is air fuel mixture to much air lean to much fuel rich.
@@supermairo1716 don't forget that this is a 1984, stock jetting is made for 32:1. Believe it or not, less oil won't do anything. In fact, Oil helps make the rings seals good and so makes ''more compression''. BUT i do run 40:1 in my kdx(which is rated 32:1), it just makes less spooge in the end (better for the powervalves).
He’s gonna blow it up before he rides it a week😂
Check to make sure your jetting is right. Plug looked a little light. You can also adjust the needle to richen it up too.
Man I've owned my share of those 125s and 250s in my day. Nothing but pure power!
I love it how he got on the road and the jets cleared out lmao. Edit after watching more it still bogged Nevermind lol.
He should have few jet kits hes got a couple 250s lol. But he buys bikes from far away or near an the air is different everywhere u go.
Nice bike,awesome job.
I'm currently,slowly reviving a 1993 Yamaha XT350.
I took it around the block for its first strool...and my first stroll as a bike owner...IT WAS AWESOME!
Thanks for the detailed,well explained videos...I hope your channel goes far because you deserve it
Stop twisting the throttle when starting..I see you do this all the time and than wonder why it doesn't start. When you do this your bypassing the enrichment circuit..aka the choke..
Thanks for saying something about that I’ve been doing that for my entire life
I have never used the throttle when starting, and that is for that reason... My moped only starts with choke and not even a slight bit of throttle. More people need to know this
Always wondered why he needed to give it gas, the choke adds more fuel to the motor anyways when it's cold like huh?
He has no idea, for this reason I’m not subscribed and cringe every time a vid gets uploaded.... the poor cr oh well
@@gelousi Good to tell other kids coming up that. @2vintage doesn't take any advice if he did he'd be a little bit better rider. His videos are more what not to do and for entertainment purposes only. When a mechanic who owns a pressure washer doesn't wash the bikes till he's completely done working on them that's a red flag. Someone usually multiple people people comments that in all his videos.
Hell yeah you did it again 👏
Proud of you brother
Nice youngster thank for your 2 stroke 80s love
I will share with you what I do since I’m older. Sometimes my foot hurts trying to start older 250, 480. First I turn gas on. Wait a couple minutes and shake bike around. Then choke on. Ignition off. Slowly crank engine over many times saving foot. Now spray a squirt of starting fluid, crack throttle a bit and kick one time with all your might. I love when it starts first kick but remember to to turn the ignition back on.
Spray some water in the carb flange and see if it makes some bubles, you should get some fenders and a new handlebar
Sounds like the needle needs adjusting.
? its possible.
I'm going to adjust you in a minute.
@@daybot9592 oh ha
Thats idle adjusting. You neee to rejet it.
@@daybot9592 lol
He said did it lock up already 😂😂😂
Love a Cr250, I've got a 95 I'm restoring right now. I'm making it all black, might put red spokes, motors been fully rebuilt, new Bill's Pipes silencer & exhaust. All I'm lacking is plastics, wheels/tires & I might get some new bars & ahe will be ready to rip. Super excited!💯🇺🇸👌
This thing is bad ass!!!!!
That think is really nice for a 1985!!
Hear the ping see the smoke you've been passed by a 2 stroke
skullboi2012Plays
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32:1 on your ratio buddy...fixes your problem!! Honda's love running at 32:1...and run Maxima 927 for your oil, stuff is the Best there is!! Good job on all your projects though for sure...love watching :)))
927 is a little thicker so it has added protection...smells amazing too!! 👍👍👍
Be careful when something running especially two strokes they burn up pistons due to lack of lubrication but it’s so cool u got her running
That front sticker was an M ROBERT sticker. They were a motocross and general riding apparel company based in Europe. They made great mx boots! (I think they are no longer in business)
Put the grips on with an air nozzle in the hole and block off the other end of the bars. Comes off the same way.
Yeah I know that feeling when it kicks in!
The mid-to-late eighties CR are my favorite. I need to find a decent book on building the carburetors for two strokes and jetting them correctly
Good job man! Do you mind i use your type of og drawing intro in some videos?
Go for it!
Maybe just the Camara but looks like the bars are bent
Nice job I love seeing these old bikes
Clean looking cr 👍💯. Build a leak down tester and use soapy water to test around all your seals and gaskets, this will let you know if your pulling in air from anywhere (leaning the bike). Also check your float height, you may not be getting enough fuel, just like needing to tip it over side ways to get it to start, you shouldn't have to do that. Common place to create a lean condition would be the magneto/flywheel crank seal (left side of bike). If you are pulling in air it will lean your bike and burn up your piston. Two tools that are a must have - compression tester and leak down. Those two tools will save you a lot of time and help you better know the health of your engine.
@@jaydensdream714 yea if the bikes been sitting. He just built it back so it should have fresh enough fuel in the bowl. I'm going to say his float level is incorrect and shutting off too early, not letting the bike get enough fuel, which also can create a lean condition. When you tip your bike half way over and it's not pissing out fuel out of the breather vent tube, it means it's too low.
@@jaydensdream714 agreed. Amazing how some brass jets, reeds, air leak, and float fuel levels too high or low can do. All those small little parts working together make a night and day difference on your bikes performance when fine tuned. Proper jetting with float levels really can waken a rich/lean running slug up 💯👍.
@@jaydensdream714 😂
That is the best running bike you’ve had on the channel
Crank seal on flywheel side you are sucking air . Pull the flywheel and replace it then jet the carburetor if need be. Otherwise you will be chasing your tail with jetting and it will still run like crap. Remember that carburetor on that bike is not the oem carburetor the other carburetor that came with the bike is the original one. You can check for air leaks by spraying starting fluid around air boots and seals ,you know if rpm picks up when idling you found your leak.
Thanks Joe and Happy Thanksgiving!
With new plastics its gunna look sweet
I wish you did an entire restoration where u completely wash down the frame and make the bike look like new!
I remeber one of your bikes was having the same problem and you changed out the jetting and it went mint after that !!!
Put a new plug in it sounds like it breaking up also
It does have a power valve that is what the can on the exhaust outlet is. There is a butterfly value In there you set it open when it's not running so max back pressure and it closes when it hits a certain rpm
Check what position the needle is in. Quick way to check if the bike is running lean is to put on the choke as you ride it. If it runs better with choke on, it's running lean. Fine tune 1/4 to 3/4 throttle by adjusting the needle position. A leak down tester will let you know if there is an air leak anywhere. With the amount of bikes you now work on, the leak down tester will be very useful to you.
Check the rubber carburetor intake manifold. Does it seal is it cracked?
I ment to shoot you a comment in the video where you tapped the water inlet. With all the bikes you come across id find a really good welder local to you for those broken cases we all come across. I got lucky an found a guy 5mins from my house who can properly weld anything. Im talking golf ball size holes an dosent change much. Iv chased down cases for years to replace broken until i found him. Keep up the great work
I bought a new cr250r in 1985 I loved that bike..I would get new air filter and new plug and if that didn't help take it to someone that knows something about carbs...awesome bike bro I wish I still had mine..
Works better than my 2006 250ex when I drive it, it makes a sound like your hitting a pole or like a scratching sound and it has oil
Your rod bearings probably need replaced
Start by turning in the air screw to make it richer. One quarter out from gently seated to about two and a half turns is max range. Go up on the pilot if turning in doesn't fix it
Had a RM250 around that same year. Good job on the project. 👍🏻👍🏻
Brilliant 👏
Running lean
JUST GONNA SEND IT ×10✊🤪
Got to love the sound of a two stroke ripping on the road
She lived crazy that bike fire
Start by getting new handle bars
A W/D 40d dust magnet/ plastic fader. Came around nice, enjoy it, I would!!!😮
Sick bike I seen a 2019 crf250 yesterday and they have came a long way
Yes dude I love your videos was wating for this upload
I'm from New Zealand and New to your page and I just gotta say Awesome ( Mahi ) - ( Work ) ma bro .. Tino pai !!!
Watched these videos from start to finnish .. Well done bro 👍🏼
Good videos! When starting a two stroke, keep your hand off the throttle. It should start in 1-2 kicks every time or you’re flooding it
You when something won’t work “well we need a new one of those” me “IM NOT SPENDING ANYMORE MONEY ON THIS STUPID THING”
If this isn’t facts😂😂
Yea!! who needs front brakes. Just ride
@@BigDmike24 i only use front lol
The way he bled the brakes made me cringe. Your supposed to pump them and hold then crack the valve then close it. When you pump while its open, it sucks in air
Power valve kicks in hard, very fast!
Would suggest hair spray as it lubes it and dries it with the alcohol in it. It also prevents whiskey grips.
If you shoot compressed air in the handle while you push they come right on without a problem same when you remove old ones
Definitely sounds like it’s running rich the way it bogs. Try leaning out your fuel mix
Did you use oil or wd40 or soap to get the grips on ?
Gotta agree with the throttle twisting during start up.. don't twist
You need new swingarm chain slider and front brake hose with 90 degree fitting. Brake hose shouldn't point straight forward from master cylinder
ktmsxs125
I totally agree 💪🏼👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
It's stuff like that I would replace first, because the way the hose sticks out is annoying as fuck 😤
Also wash the bike first, before you get to work on it 🤷🏻♂️
Anyway great comment👏🏼👍🏼
@@OldestYoungenInGuidePost Yeah I prefer things to be done properly. It's sad that for yhe most people it's enough that the bike running and they don't even bother to repair obvious things like that
I love your vids they are all I watch
I have a 82 atc 250r
The specs are crazy. I had a 1979 YZ400 and it was 36hp. The 1986 CR250R is either 48 or 51 depending on what time of the year it was made that year. 213 pounds and 50hp. Out of 250cc. Predator engine at Harbor freight is 213cc and 6.5 hp.
Put some new reeds in it , either boyesen or v force. They are inexpensive and if yours are frayed, etc.. they will make a big difference how the bike revs out
Pump up, hold crack bleeder.. repeat! Simple, otherwuse its gonna keep getting air in it. It will eventually bleed out but could take a while... great vid, good work. Great bike..
I had a1984 CR 125. You need to clean the Atac exhaust valve first. If you have done that then jetting is needed. It really doesn't sound far off once it is warmed up and you are running it through the gears. It is a race bike and doesnt like tooling round. A larger main jet and needle will help. Change out the pilot too, go up one.
It's really cool what a bargain Joe 👌🏼
Brings back memories ! Love the sound . Had one and my dad got the 500 which I got to ride lol 😂
I wish I could find a decent condition 500. Those things are beasts.
@@xfiringsquadx there good for trails instead of screaming around they kinda grunt lol gear it 15 / 43 and third gear is all you need with a little clutch action
@@MrColdwatercanyon I bet you're right on the money with that. I'm 36 so I didn't ride in the heyday of the 2ts. Therefore my first choice would be a 4 stroke for the trails, but I'm sure the 2t 500 fares much better than the 2t 250 on the trails.
Love the channel. Your mechanical abilities are astounding. Did those tires look a little soft? Noted them flexing when you sat on it.
Yes it is running lean or something it doesn't hit powerband in the lower gears right at all but it still goes man
I ride a little air cooled 4 stroke 250 dual sport.. after riding my first 250 2 stroke I'm in love with these things. Wish I could find a deal like this!^
Tip, put silicone spray in the grips, the go right on and after a few minutes they stick like you never used the spray.
One of the most slept on tricks for putting on and taking off grips is rubbing Alcohol put a bit inside the grip and a bit in the bars and the grips will slide on like nothing it will save you time hopefully you use this and help
Every time I hear this intro all I can think about is on this tale of the tape
Always have a hose on the bleeder valve when bleeding brakes... no wonder your garage floor is stained all over the place. The raised waffle part of the grip goes down, for your fingers & fingertips to grip better. And I agree that you should stop twisting the throttle when starting. This is only needed for a flooded engine (wide open when kicking), when the choke is not working or when there are other carb issues. In a good running bike, 2-stroke or 4-stroke, there should be no need for any throttle when starting. Also your techniques are a little rough and need refinement. Using a utility knife to clean the handlebar? LOL that's ineffective and also ruins your blade. Steel wool or scotch brite would be much better. Otherwise you seem to have good knowledge of bike mechanics and have good success getting these old bikes running. Thanks for the videos.
P.S. DO NOT ride any dirt bike without the chain slider (top of swingarm) and case saver. That's just begging for a disaster. You may have mangled the top of the swingarm in this one short riding session, but I hope not.
P.P.S. Dang, the more I watch the more problems I see. Not only are you using pliers on the spark plug, but it's cross threaded. This is a big problem. I could tell by the angle of the plug relative to the head, the few number of turns to get the plug out, and the condition of the first few threads on the plug. Also, this may be the reason it's not running quite right. Get a proper wrench (or socket) for the spark plug. Clean up the threads and hope that a new plug will thread in straight. Good luck.
Lift the slide needle one notch and try adjusting the air jet..
Can't go wrong with a Honda Cr there well built awesome video man
Check the jets and make sure it’s jetted correctly for the pipe