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Good deal, I just did the slip yoke eliminator on my TJ a couple of weeks ago. I was surprised how simple the inside of the transfer case is. Awesome that you can change the guts between the two.
You can make a block plate for the Speedo and drill and tap it. You might have to weld in a stand off so it has the clearance but that'll make sure its in the right spot and you won't have to make a new hole.
Interesting video. I had a 2001 ZR2 years ago and I swapped the 236 for a chevy 231 (1996) along with the older console(dyed to match). When I went to install the 231 (cable shifted obviously) I found that all the mounts for the cable shift were already marked on the trans tunnel and just needed drilling out. I then used a 2wd dash plate to cover up where the old electronic shift buttons used to be. Single best thing I ever did to that S-10 based rig and I did ALOT to it.
You can swap the 3 port vacuum switch on top the t case for the front axle indicator switch and extend the the wire if you wanna keep the shift motor. Also from what I understand the speedo sensor has an effect on trans shift points
Glenn thanks for the info! This truck is a 5-speed manual so we don't have to worry about the shift points but I know the automatics need a speed sensor for sure. Thanks for watching!
I’ve did the same thing with a 236/246. Not that it’s a good Jeep application, but worked good for my van application. And FYI, the 246 uses a wider chain and gears and should fit into your 231’s. A lot of NP/NV parts interchange with each other
The AMG (Military) 242 from a H1, use mechanical speedo, however my M-715 truck it's going in will have a digital unit, so I picked up a manual speedo to digital output unit. Full disclaimer, not sure the "pulse width" will work with his S-10, but the parts can be found new and used, might save you time and headache.
Great video. Question, I have a 2002 Wrangler with the 4.0 and a NP231J TC. The TC cracked over the winter and I bought another TC from a salvage yard that was also on a 2002 Wrangler 4.0. That Jeep only had 70K miles on it. I bought that TC. That TC is also a NP231J but it only has 4 lugs to mount to trans. Is it ok for me to just utilize the 4 lugs or do I need to figure something else out. Thank you for your time and keep up the great videos.
Great Video, especially since I have a S10 ZR2 blazer that will be SAS's and I have been wondering the best way to approach a budget way for the t-case.. Now to see what T-case is in my XJ and upgrade that and use it for parts... also for a block off plate, maybe spins a plug that bolts to the OEM sensor bolt and has a recessed collar for the S10 speed sensor at the proper depth from the tone ring gear? Should be pretty easy to fab if you have access to a lathe and set up to weld on alum
Hello i have a 98 gmc jimmy. Want to go manual transfercase. I found a np231c out of a 80s 4x4 s10 blazer. Will it bolt in?? Any wiring i would need to do?? The np231c has mechanical spedo cable and has a mechanicl linkage not a cable shift. It was bolted to a 700r4 i have a 4l60e trans. I have a the shifter,the 4x4 adapter plate, the transfer case(np231c) and floor shifter linkage assembly. Also have the floor console.
So you said in the beginning of the video that you where going to use the back half of your np 231 and front half of his np 233. Later tho. You said you where putting your SYE on the back of his t case. So my question is is it his 2 halfs (complete np 233 case)or his front half (np233 front) and your back half(np 231 back) and SYE? I'm trying to replicate
It looks like there is a slip yoke eliminater kit on the nv231... my question is will a nv231 slip yoke eliminater kit work on a nv233? The 5 bolt pattern looks identical.
Is there a channel/forum/ video about the s10 truggy? I would love to know what it actually is! can you please leave a link?... Oh and nice vid, very interesting!
The chevy np231c has 6 gear planetary gears, and a wider chain. I would have not given up that HD planetary and stronger chain. I would have just changed the front driveshaft output and did the Chevy sye.
TheQuartermaster55 this is a Chevy np233. We used the front half of the case from the 233 for the final product. The chain on the np233 and np231 are the exact same size. 1"
I really like this guy Nate, no nonsense and gets right to it. Informative and productive.
I don't have an S10 but it's still cool to see the interchangeabilities between all the 30 series t-cases. Thanks for a very interesting video!
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@Denver Nicholas yea, I have been using Instaflixxer for months myself :)
Good deal, I just did the slip yoke eliminator on my TJ a couple of weeks ago. I was surprised how simple the inside of the transfer case is. Awesome that you can change the guts between the two.
Really good video. Would be very interested in seeing how the speedo sensor is handled.
Just for anyone who needs to know. JB Conversions make SYE kits specifically for the Chevy NP231 (233).
Great video! You guys should make a video of the shift linkage being made and installed I bet there are some S10 owners who would like to see that
Journeys Offroad makes a kit for Astro vans that has a manual shift linkage for that transfer case, maybe it will give you some ideas
You can make a block plate for the Speedo and drill and tap it. You might have to weld in a stand off so it has the clearance but that'll make sure its in the right spot and you won't have to make a new hole.
Nice one guys. As usual, well explained with great camera work. Clear, precise and to the point. Full Marks for all the guys at Bleepin Jeep.....
Interesting video. I had a 2001 ZR2 years ago and I swapped the 236 for a chevy 231 (1996) along with the older console(dyed to match). When I went to install the 231 (cable shifted obviously) I found that all the mounts for the cable shift were already marked on the trans tunnel and just needed drilling out. I then used a 2wd dash plate to cover up where the old electronic shift buttons used to be. Single best thing I ever did to that S-10 based rig and I did ALOT to it.
You can swap the 3 port vacuum switch on top the t case for the front axle indicator switch and extend the the wire if you wanna keep the shift motor. Also from what I understand the speedo sensor has an effect on trans shift points
Glenn thanks for the info! This truck is a 5-speed manual so we don't have to worry about the shift points but I know the automatics need a speed sensor for sure. Thanks for watching!
I’ve did the same thing with a 236/246. Not that it’s a good Jeep application, but worked good for my van application. And FYI, the 246 uses a wider chain and gears and should fit into your 231’s. A lot of NP/NV parts interchange with each other
racrx7 same manufacturer just changed names or something like that.
The AMG (Military) 242 from a H1, use mechanical speedo, however my M-715 truck it's going in will have a digital unit, so I picked up a manual speedo to digital output unit.
Full disclaimer, not sure the "pulse width" will work with his S-10, but the parts can be found new and used, might save you time and headache.
A freeze plug works great to block of the old Speedo hole
What à mind blowing idea!! Tanks for this very educational video
nice work love when a plan comes 2gether
Reminds me of the hybrid dodge 2.2 transmissions, and the end plate upgrades. 520/555 and 525/555 models
I would love to see more on the s10 build
Thanks for the interest, we started working on the videos for this build. you can see it here. ua-cam.com/video/RkEGwGjGc4A/v-deo.html
Would the shift fork not interchange so you could have used the manual shifter
nice i might try that when i do my sas on my s10 using a locked d30 for a cheap swap its mostly a daily doesn't see extreme abuse
What did you end up doing for the vss
Awesome video! Thanks!
Love It! Frankenstein lives on!!!!!
Great video. Question, I have a 2002 Wrangler with the 4.0 and a NP231J TC. The TC cracked over the winter and I bought another TC from a salvage yard that was also on a 2002 Wrangler 4.0. That Jeep only had 70K miles on it. I bought that TC. That TC is also a NP231J but it only has 4 lugs to mount to trans. Is it ok for me to just utilize the 4 lugs or do I need to figure something else out. Thank you for your time and keep up the great videos.
Great Video, especially since I have a S10 ZR2 blazer that will be SAS's and I have been wondering the best way to approach a budget way for the t-case.. Now to see what T-case is in my XJ and upgrade that and use it for parts...
also for a block off plate, maybe spins a plug that bolts to the OEM sensor bolt and has a recessed collar for the S10 speed sensor at the proper depth from the tone ring gear? Should be pretty easy to fab if you have access to a lathe and set up to weld on alum
As usual, good stuff guys.
Cool project! Thanks Nate.
Hello i have a 98 gmc jimmy. Want to go manual transfercase. I found a np231c out of a 80s 4x4 s10 blazer. Will it bolt in?? Any wiring i would need to do?? The np231c has mechanical spedo cable and has a mechanicl linkage not a cable shift. It was bolted to a 700r4 i have a 4l60e trans. I have a the shifter,the 4x4 adapter plate, the transfer case(np231c) and floor shifter linkage assembly. Also have the floor console.
Keep up the good work, cheers
Watch the Novak vid for their sye install. They have the case sit vertically seems easier to work on.
Im curious if the 231 4:1 kit will work in the 233
Would the shifter lever and internal mechanisms have worked as a swap aswell?
This was a good video
What are those orange gloves??
Orange gloves
Oh yea
So you said in the beginning of the video that you where going to use the back half of your np 231 and front half of his np 233. Later tho. You said you where putting your SYE on the back of his t case. So my question is is it his 2 halfs (complete np 233 case)or his front half (np233 front) and your back half(np 231 back) and SYE? I'm trying to replicate
What did you do for the vss? I have the same hybrid and I need my vss to make my Trans shift correctly
"It's alive!" -Dr. Frankenstein
I have question about the front output shaft seal. Chevy case, jeep shaft n yoke. Does the factory seal work with the new fixed yoke?
Same seal on both cases.
i wanna no did those rechargeable tools last through the whole ordeal or did they require recharging
How did you solve the 4wd sensor problem. One is vacuum and one is electronic?
Make a plate and weld a nut on it so you can put it in the same hole , so you don't have to drill in the case
It looks like there is a slip yoke eliminater kit on the nv231... my question is will a nv231 slip yoke eliminater kit work on a nv233? The 5 bolt pattern looks identical.
When in doubt, get out the big dead blow and send it !
Great video thks no Hollywood B.s
Did it work for sure?
hell yeah i learn
Is there a channel/forum/ video about the s10 truggy? I would love to know what it actually is! can you please leave a link?... Oh and nice vid, very interesting!
Thanks for the interest, we started working on the videos for this build. you can see it here. ua-cam.com/video/RkEGwGjGc4A/v-deo.html
Muddy Beards 4X4 subbed
Nice idear
Why in the world did you not swap over the wide chain and gears as well?
Thks
I would say most any machine shop could make an adapter for the speedometer situation.
Very useful video.
The chevy np231c has 6 gear planetary gears, and a wider chain. I would have not given up that HD planetary and stronger chain. I would have just changed the front driveshaft output and did the Chevy sye.
TheQuartermaster55 this is a Chevy np233. We used the front half of the case from the 233 for the final product. The chain on the np233 and np231 are the exact same size. 1"
Nate Bleepinjeep, that's a lot of time to use up when you could have gone to the junkyard for something as cheap and easy to get as a np231c.
233c had a 1.25" chain up until '97, IIRC. After that they went to the 1" chain.
id sell the trouble & buy a ford.done.!!.
Who won the welder
Paul
BleepinJeep. Sweet hope he has as a lot of fun welding .
so if you combine an NP233 and an NP231 do you get an NP232?
OMG i can use a chain or planetary gears form a 92 blazer 4x4 on my 97 XJ ???? Plssss let me knw
Good job!!!!
I really was interested in this topic when the jeeps gone a s10 is gonna get swapped
233 tcase chain is stronger then the 231 chain. shoulda swapped them
id just stik a 205 in there,iron,problem solved.better gears.
was there a bushing in the tail housing on the np 233 D trans case thanks
If he swaped extension housing its possuble it couldve worked
Typo in thumbnail. It says 223.
Nice video -- but good Lord, put a noise warning in for the impact. You can't speak so quietly and then have the impact. Jeeze.
3:12 If there are any biologists who need a PhD thesis, I have proof right here that monkeys use tools.
When you said hybrid i was expecting an electric motor shoved inside ^____^
How you guys can rebuild anything with sand all over it is beyond me. Some hot water and a scrub brush might save a few headaches..
Man, microwaved pizza rolls are so much more shittier than toaster oven. I'm disappointed in my decision
WAY too much blue silicone used on the NP231. Excess silicone "spooge" should be avoided. You need about 30% of what was used there.
I learned to not by an s10.
fucking chev shit,allways have to do there own thing by changing std gear to there specs.SELL THE CHEV, OR FIT ALL STD DANA/NP,GEAR,