I used this case when swapping a 5.3 in my TJ. I have made 2 shift arms and used the "cable shift upgrade" from the TJ. I made a shift arm the same length as the jeep arm. I cut up a gatekeeper off-road cable shifter because it was the cheapest at the time. I made the arm out of 1/8" plate and made it a friction fit around that shift stump. Then I used a cotter pin to hold it all in place. I'll send you pictures if you want.
Looks like I need to check out JB conversions, I’ve been racking my head on how I’m going to make the s-10 t-case work in my Willys and thIs video just answered most of my questions on how to get a regular front out put on my 233 👍👍👍👍 thanks for the info !
@@IronDragonSC well i am using the shifter for the 241c out of a 94 pickup. I slung a rod out of the oil pan in the 4.3l get a buddy's ram out of river bottoms before i finished installing the shifter completely.
Thanks for doing such a great job on your build. I've been considering making my GMC SONOMA into a 4X4 but don't know if I'm up for the task. But I sure enjoy watching other people do there builds.
You won't need to clock the tcase at all. Running the same tcase and front axle with 14"shocks and have no issues. Also the only way I know to get manual shift is by using the case and the shift mechanism from a manual shift tcase. You can get manual shift 231c for the s10 pretty easy.
It's probably unneeded info at this point, but I feel that the people wanting to run a clocking ring are probably running a low pinion front axle..... Of course I could be totally wrong too.
On my 93 blazer with a 233 I ended up using a long piece of 2", 1/4" thick steel and cut a slit in the floor board. The throw was horribly long, looking back I would have just done a 231 swap with a jb shifter . As for the clocking ring I've never had to clock a stock case on any of the sas s10s I've done but I did do a nv4500/241 and had to clock the case to avoid doing a body lift. That being said I have an extra 231c laying around if you decide to go that route. I'm a few hours south of you just east of albany Or
I thought you mentioned in the earlier video you already had the Journeys manual shift kit!? And even if not completely necessary, the clock ring will give options on packaging.
can you do the same transfer case upgrade the bleepin jeep did on there S10 from the Onx build challenge? from my understanding it gave them an extra low gear for crawling or is what you did here good for most trails?
I don’t know about using the front case half and converting it to manual shift, but there’s always a front case half from a manual shift 231C. Snag the linkage too…?
No need to clock the t-case. Lots of room. Electronic shifter never gave me any trouble even when with a 44/9 axle swap and 37s. Do yourself a favour and grab an astro van steering box too.
So Im curious as Im not a big 4x4 guy! wondering whats purpose of this? I have a 99 blazer with same case but even though I fixed all the 4x4 and have it working Ive yet to even use 4wd in the 7 months Ive had it. I bought to restore and it just happened to be a 4wd. This for strength ? I aslo just sold a clean cj7 I redone and had it a year and half and also never used the 4wd so Im dumb to this stuff so just asking?
You said there is no timeline to be finiahed ,so save up a month or 2 and get one.The price of doing drivelines 2x will be just as much or more than the doubler kit.
Also once you have the front axle mounted so you have a measuring point it could be real close to using the jeep driveline with the added length of a reduction.sinve the jeeps seem to have a real long front driveline compared to a straight axle pickup with a sngle case? Just a thought to look at.
I used this case when swapping a 5.3 in my TJ. I have made 2 shift arms and used the "cable shift upgrade" from the TJ. I made a shift arm the same length as the jeep arm. I cut up a gatekeeper off-road cable shifter because it was the cheapest at the time. I made the arm out of 1/8" plate and made it a friction fit around that shift stump. Then I used a cotter pin to hold it all in place. I'll send you pictures if you want.
Looks like I need to check out JB conversions, I’ve been racking my head on how I’m going to make the s-10 t-case work in my Willys and thIs video just answered most of my questions on how to get a regular front out put on my 233 👍👍👍👍 thanks for the info !
I have used a few JB conversions kits, never had an issue. Great quality products, well thought out.
I had a really long awesome comment but UA-cam decided I needed to move on, so u lost the comments. Your a true hot rodder!
Journeys offroad makes a nice t case shifter for astro vans
yep, was thinking about that for my bravada but went to the np 241c instead
Yeah I'd try that
That is on the top of my list for sure.
@@shaunadams3170 I’ve got a 241c going in an s10, how’d you do the shifter for it?
@@IronDragonSC well i am using the shifter for the 241c out of a 94 pickup. I slung a rod out of the oil pan in the 4.3l get a buddy's ram out of river bottoms before i finished installing the shifter completely.
that's going to be a cool family camping/trail rig
That’s the goal 👍🏻
Thanks for doing such a great job on your build. I've been considering making my GMC SONOMA into a 4X4 but don't know if I'm up for the task. But I sure enjoy watching other people do there builds.
Thanks 👍🏻
Wow brotha! I'm impressed with hoe you know how to do all this yourself.
Thanks for the videos!
You won't need to clock the tcase at all. Running the same tcase and front axle with 14"shocks and have no issues. Also the only way I know to get manual shift is by using the case and the shift mechanism from a manual shift tcase. You can get manual shift 231c for the s10 pretty easy.
Thanks for the info 👊🏻
Anytime. I'm not saying I have a lot of answers, but my build is very similar to yours so I have a few answers.
I agree I have 14" coilovers on the front of my TJ with 5.3 and S10 4l60 and superduty one tons. No clocking needed
It's probably unneeded info at this point, but I feel that the people wanting to run a clocking ring are probably running a low pinion front axle..... Of course I could be totally wrong too.
The guy that had to clock his is running a atlas 4 speed, that is probably why. I probably won’t need it.
Great info! Really liking this build!
Thanks 👊🏻
Sames!!
On my 93 blazer with a 233 I ended up using a long piece of 2", 1/4" thick steel and cut a slit in the floor board. The throw was horribly long, looking back I would have just done a 231 swap with a jb shifter . As for the clocking ring I've never had to clock a stock case on any of the sas s10s I've done but I did do a nv4500/241 and had to clock the case to avoid doing a body lift. That being said I have an extra 231c laying around if you decide to go that route. I'm a few hours south of you just east of albany Or
I thought you mentioned in the earlier video you already had the Journeys manual shift kit!?
And even if not completely necessary, the clock ring will give options on packaging.
It was one of the options I was thinking about. But I do have the journeys kit now. I will be working on that over the next week.
As always good info man 🤙
Thanks 👊🏻
Got a question you used the front output shaft from a Jeep are you still running the 1.25 “ chain
can you do the same transfer case upgrade the bleepin jeep did on there S10 from the Onx build challenge? from my understanding it gave them an extra low gear for crawling or is what you did here good for most trails?
I don’t know about using the front case half and converting it to manual shift, but there’s always a front case half from a manual shift 231C. Snag the linkage too…?
No need to clock the t-case. Lots of room. Electronic shifter never gave me any trouble even when with a 44/9 axle swap and 37s. Do yourself a favour and grab an astro van steering box too.
And a flat pitman arm.
So Im curious as Im not a big 4x4 guy! wondering whats purpose of this? I have a 99 blazer with same case but even though I fixed all the 4x4 and have it working Ive yet to even use 4wd in the 7 months Ive had it. I bought to restore and it just happened to be a 4wd. This for strength ? I aslo just sold a clean cj7 I redone and had it a year and half and also never used the 4wd so Im dumb to this stuff so just asking?
You forgot the doubler reduction box..😂
Haha, I wish. Maybe in V2.0
You said there is no timeline to be finiahed ,so save up a month or 2 and get one.The price of doing drivelines 2x will be just as much or more than the doubler kit.
Also once you have the front axle mounted so you have a measuring point it could be real close to using the jeep driveline with the added length of a reduction.sinve the jeeps seem to have a real long front driveline compared to a straight axle pickup with a sngle case? Just a thought to look at.
@@MuddyBeards4X4you could just do a front half of a 231c and buy a kit to make that into a doubler