Yeah I bought two pairs two different sizes of the snap-on flank joint pliers and I don't really like them they're hard to use you can't fit them in that many areas to be fair you can't really fit the twin grips in that many areas either but thus the flank joints are even worse when it comes to working on cars they're almost worthless they pretty much sat my toolbox collecting dust until I just gave them away cuz I just didn't want them anymore twin grips are just a much better design
Hammer, staple puller, powerful grip, wire cutter, wire gripper (pulling), wire twister. I don’t know what they’re actually called but fence pliers have a LOT of features.
Very interesting selection. I would add Knipex 08 21 145, is my go-to set of pliers for everything from electrical, electronics, mechanics, maintenance, plumbling...in a very compact size.
Knipex forged wire strippers have to be one of the most useful and versatile pliers I’ve seen. Throw that in a tool pouch with some 180mm Cobras and a klein 11 in 1 impact ratcheting screwdriver and you can get a lot done with those three tools alone. Forgot to add the milwaukee fastback 6 in 1.
I’m for sure a Plier addict ! Options are power . Combo tools are sometimes very useful , if well made , and well thought out . I use the Klein and Knipex offerings to be superb !
Tool Designer: I've got this new goofy design for pliers that doesn't do anything better but looks cool. Tool Manufacturer: Nice. We'll likely sell a million pair.
I love my Twin Grips. But they are not my "kitchen Drawer" pliers. A tool with basic utility - simplicity ; has a quality of its own. There are Lineman pliers out there that will make you an egg and cheese sandwich. But I stick to my Klein Journeyman's because they do what they are supposed to really well. I stick to an Estwing hammer rather than a fancy California Titanium with a magnet --- to keep it simple. I prefer the Tekton Hard Handle screw Drivers over some wacky, ergonomic shape ----- because it works, and feels familiar
I think for every design of pliers there is a sweet-spot, that if you add more features the overall design get compromised, and how the pliers do each feature will also take a hit. It is all about balance, if you put to much - your tool will be almost useless in the end. For me the Knipex Pliers for Electrical Installation, is one my favorite it has several features that it does very well and I utilize them extensively. Of course there are somethings that it doesn't do or I prefer other tool to use for but it's OK because I don't end up needing many more tools for some jobs.
If you find yourself at your bench assembling something using a crescent wrench but you're constantly changing the size of said crescent wrench you will love the snap on slip joint with the flank drive feature it's not the greatest for disassembly but it does work I've even used it for a 5/8" bolt (15/16") socket to hold a nut and on the other end I used a 1/2" impact they are a (one way) plier so I hope that helps I'm a diesel mechanic on heavy equipment and class 8 trucks
I have two pairs of the Knipex TwinGrips, and while I always put them in my tool bag to work on things (even in the house, which is 50 feet from my workbench), I also regularly reach for slip joint pliers when I 'just want a pair of pliers'. In fact, this afternoon I was wishing I had a pair of Knipex slip joint pliers instead of the Doyles I was using, which is probably why I ordered the Icon duplicate of Snap-on slip joints this evening. I tend to reach for the simplest tool which will do the job when at my workbench, since everything I have is either on the pegboards around it, or in one of the tool chests nearby. But I always pack the mutant pliers in my bag, since I never know what I'll need (well, occasionally I do, but I'm pretty surprised if a job goes the way I expect - I think my house was built by several troops of monkeys, since everything has been done slightly wrong, but there is no pattern to the incompetence).
i agree with your Twin Grip and Snap on selection.. as i commented on on your other plier video, using a traditional set of slip joint pliers left me frustrated. I'm just not a fan of too many features on a plier that doesn't do anything really all that well, and the new Knipex and Snap On triple joint needle nose are giving a focused set of functions i like.
I use those orbis pliers way more than I thought I would. My wife grabs them every time I tell her to get me some pliers to tighten a bolt on something around the house. I have had to use those over other ones I thought I would use several times. Luckily she likes them and they stand out enough she usually grabs them for me from my cf of a pliers drawer
Jack of all trades master of none. Most pliers have at least one extra feature in them like cutters or a nut / round gripping area and work just find without trying to do too many things they can't do that well. Personally I'd rather pair a 2 or 3 that each do a couple things well then go for one that tries to do all the things. The only area where a pair of pliers doing more than 3 different things is going to be a very effective functional tool is electrical work, lots of things like crimpers and strippers incorporate in to other pliers very well. In other areas, a lot of the different plier types just don't seem ideal for incorporating.
I'm in a position where I'm effectively "re-purchasing" tools that I've had for years. As a background task I'm questioning myself on the validity of these purchases from a number of angles. I can't dispute that the overall quality and capabilities of tools from premium brands is beyond that of my existing kit but one "worry" has to do with the comparison of how technology is driving us to re-purchase so many items at higher frequencies. The analogy is not valid for this use-case but I can't shake the feeling that I'm doing something "bad" / somehow. My recent approach has been to make a single more compact kit from these "nicer" choices and it tends to live in the car (i.e. "nearby") as opposed to the "task specific" (sort-of) kits that I tend to have in locations near those activities. I then "pull" the nice kit when a task is eminent. Of course, the "old" kit is also at hand to augment as necessary. All this to say that I'm trying to minimize my consumption but I think like many here, finding it challenging. Thanks for the conversation! /Chris
I believe there is a gene buried deep in our DNA that finds satisfaction in wearing out a tool. The constant stream of new things, tools included, leaves us unfulfilled. What is needed is a vacation from the new. Similar to camping and bushcraft and overlanding, there is wisdom in knowing when to walk away for a while and impose deliberate limitations and primitive problem solving all designed to refresh the spirit and focus on what’s truly important. This self-help is expressed on my channel through the pursuit of minimalist toolkits and appreciating the subtle differences between similar tools.
Hi Doc, I follow ur channel and value ur opinion. Would u pls review Snap on 1/4 and 3/8 in indexable rachets. I think there are 2 much play in the 1/4 inch vs. 3/8. Moreover I also own the Pittsburgh brand with 3/8 and 1/2 inch They don't have 1/4. I am somewhat disappointed with my Snap on I own and Snap on doesn't have the 1/2. I appreciate if u look into it and I would like to know if mine is an anomaly or they are the Snap on wobbly.
Yeah I bought two pairs two different sizes of the snap-on flank joint pliers and I don't really like them they're hard to use you can't fit them in that many areas to be fair you can't really fit the twin grips in that many areas either but thus the flank joints are even worse when it comes to working on cars they're almost worthless they pretty much sat my toolbox collecting dust until I just gave them away cuz I just didn't want them anymore twin grips are just a much better design
Hammer, staple puller, powerful grip, wire cutter, wire gripper (pulling), wire twister. I don’t know what they’re actually called but fence pliers have a LOT of features.
Pretty sure they're called fencing pliers
To boldly go where no pliers have gone before...... thanks doc
Very interesting selection. I would add Knipex 08 21 145, is my go-to set of pliers for everything from electrical, electronics, mechanics, maintenance, plumbling...in a very compact size.
Knipex forged wire strippers have to be one of the most useful and versatile pliers I’ve seen. Throw that in a tool pouch with some 180mm Cobras and a klein 11 in 1 impact ratcheting screwdriver and you can get a lot done with those three tools alone. Forgot to add the milwaukee fastback 6 in 1.
I’m for sure a Plier addict ! Options are power . Combo tools are sometimes very useful , if well made , and well thought out . I use the Klein and Knipex offerings to be superb !
Tool Designer: I've got this new goofy design for pliers that doesn't do anything better but looks cool.
Tool Manufacturer: Nice. We'll likely sell a million pair.
pretty crazy how the tools evolve for these new stuff we work on
I love my Twin Grips. But they are not my "kitchen Drawer" pliers.
A tool with basic utility - simplicity ; has a quality of its own.
There are Lineman pliers out there that will make you an egg and cheese sandwich.
But I stick to my Klein Journeyman's because they do what they are supposed to really well.
I stick to an Estwing hammer rather than a fancy California Titanium with a magnet --- to keep it simple.
I prefer the Tekton Hard Handle screw Drivers over some wacky, ergonomic shape ----- because it works, and feels familiar
I feel like you would also tell me how cheap gas was when you started driving too 😎
@@nachoisme lol
@@nachoisme lol,all I'l say is it was Leaded
@@marko11kramfun fact: Algeria was the last country to ban leaded gasoline in… 2019
I think for every design of pliers there is a sweet-spot, that if you add more features the overall design get compromised, and how the pliers do each feature will also take a hit.
It is all about balance, if you put to much - your tool will be almost useless in the end.
For me the Knipex Pliers for Electrical Installation, is one my favorite it has several features that it does very well and I utilize them extensively.
Of course there are somethings that it doesn't do or I prefer other tool to use for but it's OK because I don't end up needing many more tools for some jobs.
The Knipex Dismantling pliers look cool for reaching into places to strip wire
Someday,you should show to us your toolbox. It must be the largest toolbox out there!!
I'm still waiting for my needlenose twingrip and also mini needlenose ones! I do like the look of those snap-on needlenose as well!
The bent needle nose are by far the best for removing fish hooks. Mine never leave my tackle box. I'd never use regular needle nose for finding again
How's that compare to bent forceps?
lots of great options, I think for home use about 4 of those out of the collection could almost do everything you need under the sun.
If you find yourself at your bench assembling something using a crescent wrench but you're constantly changing the size of said crescent wrench you will love the snap on slip joint with the flank drive feature it's not the greatest for disassembly but it does work I've even used it for a 5/8" bolt (15/16") socket to hold a nut and on the other end I used a 1/2" impact they are a (one way) plier so I hope that helps I'm a diesel mechanic on heavy equipment and class 8 trucks
I have two pairs of the Knipex TwinGrips, and while I always put them in my tool bag to work on things (even in the house, which is 50 feet from my workbench), I also regularly reach for slip joint pliers when I 'just want a pair of pliers'. In fact, this afternoon I was wishing I had a pair of Knipex slip joint pliers instead of the Doyles I was using, which is probably why I ordered the Icon duplicate of Snap-on slip joints this evening. I tend to reach for the simplest tool which will do the job when at my workbench, since everything I have is either on the pegboards around it, or in one of the tool chests nearby. But I always pack the mutant pliers in my bag, since I never know what I'll need (well, occasionally I do, but I'm pretty surprised if a job goes the way I expect - I think my house was built by several troops of monkeys, since everything has been done slightly wrong, but there is no pattern to the incompetence).
i agree with your Twin Grip and Snap on selection.. as i commented on on your other plier video, using a traditional set of slip joint pliers left me frustrated. I'm just not a fan of too many features on a plier that doesn't do anything really all that well, and the new Knipex and Snap On triple joint needle nose are giving a focused set of functions i like.
I use those orbis pliers way more than I thought I would. My wife grabs them every time I tell her to get me some pliers to tighten a bolt on something around the house. I have had to use those over other ones I thought I would use several times. Luckily she likes them and they stand out enough she usually grabs them for me from my cf of a pliers drawer
Jack of all trades master of none.
Most pliers have at least one extra feature in them like cutters or a nut / round gripping area and work just find without trying to do too many things they can't do that well.
Personally I'd rather pair a 2 or 3 that each do a couple things well then go for one that tries to do all the things.
The only area where a pair of pliers doing more than 3 different things is going to be a very effective functional tool is electrical work, lots of things like crimpers and strippers incorporate in to other pliers very well.
In other areas, a lot of the different plier types just don't seem ideal for incorporating.
I think it's worth you looking at the Knipex 08 25 145 (or whatever handle material you like, I prefer the dipped ones).
They really suit me nicely.
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Jack of all master of none😉👍
i wish Knipex would make a 180 or 150 version of the twin grips...
Knipex should make a 5-6” twin grip with cutter and it would be the perfect edc plied
Knipex cobra with wire cutters would be nice.
Where did you acquire the LN46ACF pliers, I can't find them online, is it truck only?
I wished that Knipex also made a Twin Grip pliers in 10” version.
I'm in a position where I'm effectively "re-purchasing" tools that I've had for years. As a background task I'm questioning myself on the validity of these purchases from a number of angles. I can't dispute that the overall quality and capabilities of tools from premium brands is beyond that of my existing kit but one "worry" has to do with the comparison of how technology is driving us to re-purchase so many items at higher frequencies. The analogy is not valid for this use-case but I can't shake the feeling that I'm doing something "bad" / somehow.
My recent approach has been to make a single more compact kit from these "nicer" choices and it tends to live in the car (i.e. "nearby") as opposed to the "task specific" (sort-of) kits that I tend to have in locations near those activities. I then "pull" the nice kit when a task is eminent. Of course, the "old" kit is also at hand to augment as necessary. All this to say that I'm trying to minimize my consumption but I think like many here, finding it challenging.
Thanks for the conversation! /Chris
I believe there is a gene buried deep in our DNA that finds satisfaction in wearing out a tool. The constant stream of new things, tools included, leaves us unfulfilled. What is needed is a vacation from the new. Similar to camping and bushcraft and overlanding, there is wisdom in knowing when to walk away for a while and impose deliberate limitations and primitive problem solving all designed to refresh the spirit and focus on what’s truly important. This self-help is expressed on my channel through the pursuit of minimalist toolkits and appreciating the subtle differences between similar tools.
Slight bend to the handle so you can get better sight line/not drag knuckles on something seems legit. No pair to my name yet though.
Can the bolt cutting feature on any of those handle stainless screws?
Hi Doc,
I follow ur channel and value ur opinion.
Would u pls review Snap on 1/4 and 3/8 in indexable rachets. I think there are 2 much play in the 1/4 inch vs. 3/8. Moreover I also own the Pittsburgh brand with 3/8 and 1/2 inch They don't have 1/4.
I am somewhat disappointed with my Snap on I own and Snap on doesn't have the 1/2. I appreciate if u look into it and I would like to know if mine is an anomaly or they are the Snap on wobbly.
How did you get ahold of the new snap on 46’s? My dealer said they’re not coming until like may.
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that’s a lot of pliers