Billy is one of the BEST builders in the USA. He has been my custom builder for well over 5 years. From my Hogan PTx's, to my current Wilson Staff CB's to all my wedges. Cannot speak highly enough of his skill and all those at KBS Golf Experience.
@@trottiegolf Someone must have odds on: How quickly you measure and put on a swing-weight scale How quickly you bend How quickly you re-assemble How quickly you shelve and build your own. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If you’re in Florida, Moon Golf does the exact same thing but with every brand of shaft/club. Fitting bays 20 feet away from the build shop. The builders go through the exact same process. I’ve had them build my entire set, drive to lob wedge. Pure’ing, swing weighted, exact length, lie and loft, and with tour level quality control.
Loved watching Trottie stress whilst he watched someone else do his passion for him. Double checking the shaft length against the grips, you had me bloody nervous there, had me wondering if scottsdale did mine right haha. Only difference is I'm probably not good enough for it to make any difference.
I got a set of Mizuno 923 tour irons coming soon with KBS Tour Lite shafts. Can't wait to put them in play and see what those bad boys can do for me. Been hitting those shafts on a demo club, but will be fantastic on my own clubs. KBS makes an awesome shaft!!!!!
Hey @trottiegolf coming down from the great white north later this year for my 40th and doing some golfing and fittings and would love to add Taylormade on my fitting list experience. So far im hitting up Cobra and Titleist but wondering what would be a good place to go to for Taylormade.
Yeah...KBS ex is pretty cool...they fit exactly to what the customer wants...I had some concerns intially about fitting my old parallax irons to D4 with money taper 125+ but they assured me it would not be an issue... perfect customer service and focus. Its not a cheap service but you get what you pay for. Ping just production build quickly like robots and shaft using this crazy air cannon which ruins alot of shafts in the hozel. But these are made by hand with love and care and top expertise....what's not to like?
I've only ever seen folks do it that way. A square hit and it's fine, you're not hammering the thing, it's more of a firm tap. Trust me I had a lot more to monitor than that & the guys did a nice job 👍
I've seen both ways in terms of marking the shaft position and I think Billy marked it to be at 12 O'clock but you want the spine at the target. Obv 3 O'clock changes if you're a lefty. I have marked them in the past like Billy but I know that mark leaves the spine at the target. Some people get deep, deep on this and go at angles or away from target etc I'll be honest I'm not one of those characters
Play maybe once a week / 10 days all depends on schedule, fluctuate between scr and +3 all depending on my flow. I'll be honest still wrapping my head around this GHIN system as was a pro for quite sometime so not really sure still how it can move so much. Old money UK hcp prolly a +1 ish but like everyone can still get hot (or cold) occasionally 🤣
I love what I’ve got and fully trust TM from the videos I’ve seen of people here showing quality control. And my irons still feel great. Would it be possible to send them in and have TM redo the faces when they get worn down enough? Or I’ve heard that using mats has a higher probability of needing them checked for angles?
@@MarineBand5524 Mats and lie angles is 100% a thing, so check them frequently. Redoing the grooves, that's a myth, TM won't do that. In terms of frequency matching, you'd need to send your clubs to KBS for them to retro build the irons again. Might be something you wanna consider.
I will be 100% honest here and my intention is NEVER to talk about a great company like TAYLORMADE! I've been playing golf for 30 years, and sponsored by Taylormade since 2008. The company is AMAZING, however trottie, I am like you and honestly, Taylormade when you order a set of custom clubs, when you received them, they are not what you order. Last time, I order my set of irons swing weight D2 and I received them swing weight D7 and D8!! YES that big of a difference. The specs 1* flat and they came 1* Upright. Most of the times, happened this situation with Taylormade and is a real PAIN. I am currently playing Mizuno and my experience has been AMAZING in quality control if I can call it that way. May be too busy? Anyways this doesn't mean I don't LOVE Taylormade and this doesn't mean that the quality is AMAZING I am just trying to point out this to you since as far as I see the video, I am like you!
Each shaft starts as a flat piece of material, wrapped into a round object. So this means there will always be a crossover point where the ends meet. This is the spine.
the volume gain limiter on the audio is WAY TOO INTENSE. it was so disorienting having the audio fully cut every few seconds in between words or people speaking.
Billy is one of the BEST builders in the USA. He has been my custom builder for well over 5 years. From my Hogan PTx's, to my current Wilson Staff CB's to all my wedges. Cannot speak highly enough of his skill and all those at KBS Golf Experience.
You know trottie hated every second of someone else building his clubs
You know me too well…… this was a tough one for me to make and not get too involved 🤣🧅
I went with the same Hogan-inspired look! 👌🏼
@@trottiegolf Someone must have odds on:
How quickly you measure and put on a swing-weight scale
How quickly you bend
How quickly you re-assemble
How quickly you shelve and build your own.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@elgeneral72 🤣😂🤣😂
Trottie took these apart and rebuilt them as soon as he got back home lol
I absolutely love these videos, Trottie! Just true craftsman building incredible sticks with zero compromise!
Very very cool to see the process where my driver was built! Can’t recommend these guys at KBS enough- they are awesome to work with!
Production quality looks mint! Keep up the great content Trottie!
If you’re in Florida, Moon Golf does the exact same thing but with every brand of shaft/club. Fitting bays 20 feet away from the build shop. The builders go through the exact same process. I’ve had them build my entire set, drive to lob wedge. Pure’ing, swing weighted, exact length, lie and loft, and with tour level quality control.
This is great. Just got the phantom black p790. Probably could do my own “prism” build. Thanks for Sharing Trottie! Clubs look amazing.
The black steel shafts seem to have a nice contrast with a satin head.
Loved these KBS videos 👍🏻clubs look amazing
In love with this process
This is the difference between assembly line and a master craftsman
Trottie a sick looking set of clubs.
sooo sick!! i can't wait to get fitted!!
Rock on Trottie !
Loved watching Trottie stress whilst he watched someone else do his passion for him. Double checking the shaft length against the grips, you had me bloody nervous there, had me wondering if scottsdale did mine right haha. Only difference is I'm probably not good enough for it to make any difference.
🤣😂😅😅😅😅😅
I've enjoyed all of these videos
Happy that you’re happy with them 👊🏻
Love the building vids, fitting vids too
Awesome as always! Love your videos.
Yea this Vid ripped, thanks for tuning in.
That set looks 🔥 📛 👨🚒
RIGHT as RAIN!!
Need this in the UK!!
I got a set of Mizuno 923 tour irons coming soon with KBS Tour Lite shafts. Can't wait to put them in play and see what those bad boys can do for me. Been hitting those shafts on a demo club, but will be fantastic on my own clubs. KBS makes an awesome shaft!!!!!
The tour lite shafts are👌,I’ve got them in my P790 and I won’t use anything else
Trottie chomping at the bit 😂
Hopefully one day I could afford to get custom fitted for a set! 😊
If you could draw a "craftsman" throughout the ages they would look like Billy.
Hey @trottiegolf coming down from the great white north later this year for my 40th and doing some golfing and fittings and would love to add Taylormade on my fitting list experience. So far im hitting up Cobra and Titleist but wondering what would be a good place to go to for Taylormade.
My KBS Tour 90 shafts are wonderful but I’d like to get fitted there once!
So when are we going to get the custom trottie irons? The way you would play them just like getting the p7TW tiger spec irons?
trottie is the new sergio for taylormade
Irons just need a regrip, but could really use a driver and wedges! Thanks dude
Trottie please give us a course vlog with you playing
Anybody get the feeling that Trottie is gonna take this set and rebuild it himself? Haha
🤣 I think he did a solid job BUT I was watching 🤣🤣
Trottie eyeing em like u gonna weigh that epoxy son!? 🤣🤣
Great video Trottie! I have a question: what frequency of the shaft vibration was? Is there a correlation with the swing speed(head/ball)?
Do you know what I didn't even check but yes there is a correlation. I just know they matched which was what I was conscious of
Kid in a candy shop!
Yeah...KBS ex is pretty cool...they fit exactly to what the customer wants...I had some concerns intially about fitting my old parallax irons to D4 with money taper 125+ but they assured me it would not be an issue... perfect customer service and focus. Its not a cheap service but you get what you pay for. Ping just production build quickly like robots and shaft using this crazy air cannon which ruins alot of shafts in the hozel. But these are made by hand with love and care and top expertise....what's not to like?
Hi Trottie - do you typically SW it a little lighter so that it accounts for the epoxy? as in if you wanted D2, you SW at D1.5 add epoxy?
In his previous builds he says he does. Look at the Rory wedge build and he mentions it.
As our guy says I like to but that's just me, defo on wedges I keep a very close eye on that
Hey trottie is there a p790 coming out this year ? Before I buy the current set
Do you know what.... I have no clue. They deliberately keep me out of the rooms with that type of info these days 🤣
Sorry for my ignorance, but why you chose KBS build over TM build?
I'm really suprised they attach the club head by smashing the shaft down onto the floor... how can they be so confident they wont damage the shaft?
I've only ever seen folks do it that way. A square hit and it's fine, you're not hammering the thing, it's more of a firm tap.
Trust me I had a lot more to monitor than that & the guys did a nice job 👍
Is the spine meant to be installed at 12 o’clock looking at the club head at address or 3 o’clock?
I've seen both ways in terms of marking the shaft position and I think Billy marked it to be at 12 O'clock but you want the spine at the target. Obv 3 O'clock changes if you're a lefty. I have marked them in the past like Billy but I know that mark leaves the spine at the target.
Some people get deep, deep on this and go at angles or away from target etc
I'll be honest I'm not one of those characters
Where can I get the same experience in the uk?
What lie angle do you play on your irons?
6i @ 61 - move both ways off that
whats trotties handicap? how often do you play man? love the videos
Play maybe once a week / 10 days all depends on schedule, fluctuate between scr and +3 all depending on my flow.
I'll be honest still wrapping my head around this GHIN system as was a pro for quite sometime so not really sure still how it can move so much.
Old money UK hcp prolly a +1 ish but like everyone can still get hot (or cold) occasionally 🤣
@@trottiegolf ...or so little at times. It's a real head scratcher!
@@carllicari3067 Greatest game i've ever known 😎
Trottie threw a curve ball with the glue weight question
🤣😂 Love a curve ball
Was there not a tip trimming process?
Not on my irons
what fish wire type/thickness does he use ? thanks
I have no clue.... I'll find out though
Am I guessing correctly that the KBS shafts that came with my TM not done like KBS would have done?
They will have been assembled by TM
@@trottiegolf yes but they don’t do the wobble testing for straight back and forward like they do?
I love what I’ve got and fully trust TM from the videos I’ve seen of people here showing quality control. And my irons still feel great.
Would it be possible to send them in and have TM redo the faces when they get worn down enough? Or I’ve heard that using mats has a higher probability of needing them checked for angles?
@@MarineBand5524 Mats and lie angles is 100% a thing, so check them frequently. Redoing the grooves, that's a myth, TM won't do that. In terms of frequency matching, you'd need to send your clubs to KBS for them to retro build the irons again. Might be something you wanna consider.
@@trottiegolf thank you! I will do that!
Trottie what about if you live in 🇬🇧
Could watch Billy all day, total craftsman. Do you fit yourself or does someone else come in?
I went through the whole experience. You can see the fitting portion here:
ua-cam.com/video/ll_EfeKlf9o/v-deo.html
called him out over that 1/8th of an inch and he re-marked the shaft 😂😂
If it's not right it's wrong..... 🤣😂
Rumor has it that Billy quit after Trottie's visit.
🤣😂 I can confirm Billy did not quit
Hardest hard is the get the length right….everyone measure 37” different for instance.
is it just me or did he mess the griptape up? Didnt look smooth. :/
I will be 100% honest here and my intention is NEVER to talk about a great company like TAYLORMADE! I've been playing golf for 30 years, and sponsored by Taylormade since 2008. The company is AMAZING, however trottie, I am like you and honestly, Taylormade when you order a set of custom clubs, when you received them, they are not what you order. Last time, I order my set of irons swing weight D2 and I received them swing weight D7 and D8!! YES that big of a difference. The specs 1* flat and they came 1* Upright. Most of the times, happened this situation with Taylormade and is a real PAIN. I am currently playing Mizuno and my experience has been AMAZING in quality control if I can call it that way. May be too busy? Anyways this doesn't mean I don't LOVE Taylormade and this doesn't mean that the quality is AMAZING I am just trying to point out this to you since as far as I see the video, I am like you!
It does not speak for KBS that they need to spine align their own shafts, which basically means they are not perfectly round.
Each shaft starts as a flat piece of material, wrapped into a round object. So this means there will always be a crossover point where the ends meet. This is the spine.
No steel shaft is perfectly round
"Promosm"
What no honey
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@trottiegolf 😆 one day my dream of having a fitting and custom clubs built for me but until then it will be second hand Taylormades for me
the volume gain limiter on the audio is WAY TOO INTENSE. it was so disorienting having the audio fully cut every few seconds in between words or people speaking.
i get the use of it, just up the attack/release times ffs.