I'm a little confused here. You started with a 10.5* head. Put the sleeve in the small minus setting...and came out with a loft of 8.75*???Shouldn't that have resulted in 9.5* give or take? I could see if it had been the big minus setting getting down to 9* and then the manufacturing tolerance of the loft of the head dropping the "measured" loft down to 8.75*. Could you address this? Thanks!
I'd like to know this as well... the small- should have only taken one degree of Loft off. More importantly I would have liked to known how he could fix the issue if the driver would have come out to 9.1 degrees when they were looking to go 8.75? How can they fine tune something like that
It’s fascinating to so see the precision used to assemble the driver. A follow up video on how a tour player tests and chooses the ideal specification would be interesting as there are so many variables to choose from.
Goes to show that when being fit, if you can't walk away with the exact club then it's completely pointless. If the 10.5 you ordered arrives at 9.75 because of a tolerance then you're going to get a massively different driver to your fitting unless the exact loft of the fitting head is known.
That's what's nice about ping. If you are worried about it you can order your driver digitally lofted like in the video. If you want a 10.5° that plays 10 or 11 or whatever, just request it. I heard that they digitally loft demo heads to their stated loft so if you want to make an adjustment you know where you started.
I just noted this above about the tolerances. This is maybe why the club fitter could of put a shaft lean backwards when gluing at small (-) setting, to lower the loft. There is probably as much tolerance adjustment in the gluing the hosel, then the driver head. Glass beading is supposed to center the shaft, but without leaning the shaft when curing.
Too many amateur builders “over prep” graphite because they do it on a belt sander. Huge believer in a hand file method shown here especially on premium composites like an MCA or Graphite Design one.
I had the pleasure of meeting Jack a few years back, great guy. Glad to see he's on the Tour Truck. G430 LST is an amazing driver. Great behind the scenes video
If you start with a 10.5* head and you want to play at 8.75* at small (-), that would put it at 9.5*. Big (--) would play at 9*. So I guess the club fitter is looking for a head that is .75* out of spec, to play at 8.75*. Hopefully the hot melt screw is aluminum or might change the swing weight slightly. I think it was measured D3 without it. 45.75" is standard length for the LST, but with D4 swing weight from factory. Factory standard is 22-gram tungsten backweight, but with 11g backweight for Tyrrell, he can put 9g-11g extra hot melt low and forward. This should produce a lower spin driver then factory, but less forgiving. Probable will sound better also.
Radar......."The Pro's dont get any preferential treatment".......my arse. Tyrell's getting a back up driver free, actually no, he's getting paid by Ping and getting a back up driver. 😂😂
It’s hardly rocket science chaps …. Sorry but they just glueing stuff together ( slowly to make it look difficult 😂) Or justifying inflated prices Love what you normally do radar ❤️
It's amazing that these players swings are so precise that a gram here or there makes a big difference to them. When you think about it a gram is almost nothing.
Not a pro anymore but I’ve been on the same driver build spec wise for almost two decades. I started building clubs in the mid nineties and I can manage too heavy but too light and it’s like I’ve never had a club in my hands. It’s interesting how some players are very sensitive to weight or grip size and other just go ham with anything.
I was thinking the same thing. When I saw they don’t bother to “pure” the shaft for a PGA Tour player, it made me wonder if Club Champion is selling us snake oil…. 🤔
@@wiscobuckeye Pretty sure there have been a lot of people on the internet that have shown no discernable difference with pureing. You might be able to see the difference on a frequency machine if you let the shaft flex/cycle a dozen times, but I have yet to see any evidence that it actually has any influence during a golf swing. One of those things they sell you on like insurance: "if you're spending the money, wouldn't you want to cover every possible variable? You never know/it could help/etc."
No need with the shaft you just saw being installed. They are the "full blown" manufacturers model and not the cheapo ones that are produced under licence for us average golfers hence the big difference in their retail price.
@@JMEAUS22 the sleeve he has is identical to off the rack sleeves. The heads have manufacturing tolerances, that's why he had a few 10.5's lined up. He found one that was actually 9.75 and put it in the small minus setting to get 8.75. A tolerance of +/- .75 degrees from stamped loft is not uncommon.
@@bert1450 I thought the same thing until my fitter at club champion told me that’s only true for TaylorMade. Adjusting a ping’s loft up or down leaves the face alone apparently…
Nice work but I think when you measure twice cut once you’re supposed to measure twice BEFORE you cut……😂
Great observation 😂😂😂
Rumor has it Tyrrell is still waiting on that driver.😂🤷
I think we all agree we miss round with radar!
Yep
not at all. the guy is seriously unfunny and his conversations seem so awkward
Working on the tour truck would truly be an amazing experience.
A job you could love!
I'm a little confused here. You started with a 10.5* head. Put the sleeve in the small minus setting...and came out with a loft of 8.75*???Shouldn't that have resulted in 9.5* give or take? I could see if it had been the big minus setting getting down to 9* and then the manufacturing tolerance of the loft of the head dropping the "measured" loft down to 8.75*. Could you address this? Thanks!
I'd like to know this as well... the small- should have only taken one degree of Loft off.
More importantly I would have liked to known how he could fix the issue if the driver would have come out to 9.1 degrees when they were looking to go 8.75? How can they fine tune something like that
@@BuffaloNickel9 they would have picked a different head if that were the case.
All lofts heads a bit different, it's about face angle and shit
It’s fascinating to so see the precision used to assemble the driver. A follow up video on how a tour player tests and chooses the ideal specification would be interesting as there are so many variables to choose from.
I TOO could watch this for a long time mind you I am mad on golf , yep I play 3 times a week plus Rabbits if needed AND Seniors so 5 times a week .
Goes to show that when being fit, if you can't walk away with the exact club then it's completely pointless. If the 10.5 you ordered arrives at 9.75 because of a tolerance then you're going to get a massively different driver to your fitting unless the exact loft of the fitting head is known.
That's what's nice about ping. If you are worried about it you can order your driver digitally lofted like in the video. If you want a 10.5° that plays 10 or 11 or whatever, just request it. I heard that they digitally loft demo heads to their stated loft so if you want to make an adjustment you know where you started.
I just noted this above about the tolerances. This is maybe why the club fitter could of put a shaft lean backwards when gluing at small (-) setting, to lower the loft. There is probably as much tolerance adjustment in the gluing the hosel, then the driver head. Glass beading is supposed to center the shaft, but without leaning the shaft when curing.
Those guys must be busy building drivers for Hatton due to his temper with clubs.
There must be 2 million worth of equipment there.
More like 20 million +.
Too many amateur builders “over prep” graphite because they do it on a belt sander.
Huge believer in a hand file method shown here especially on premium composites like an MCA or Graphite Design one.
In the interest of club safety, I take it Tyrrell isn't allowed in the truck 😂😂
Well done boys, you can use a chop saw and some glue, next stop, splitting the atom!
I had the pleasure of meeting Jack a few years back, great guy. Glad to see he's on the Tour Truck. G430 LST is an amazing driver. Great behind the scenes video
What kind of solvent/tape are you using that they can use the driver after only 15 minutes of drying?
Do you have any old heads you need to get rid of? I’d be happy with a G400 to replace my ancient G25…;-)
they get a tour guys driver in 15 minutes but my order will take 4-6 weeks 🤔
I really enjoyed the video. I work in the Golf retail space and built many clubs. I wish I had the microwave used here. Thanks a bunch.
Thank you for the comment, Bobby. 🤙 Play Your Best.
I love my G430 max driver (10.5) with a 50 gram LA Golf A Type S shaft. Been a lot of fun getting used to it this season.
I've gone for the same spec and weight shaft. Looking forward to it, changing from TSr2
Confused how this isn't more like D7.
It would want to be shockproof and be able to float too
If you start with a 10.5* head and you want to play at 8.75* at small (-), that would put it at 9.5*. Big (--) would play at 9*. So I guess the club fitter is looking for a head that is .75* out of spec, to play at 8.75*. Hopefully the hot melt screw is aluminum or might change the swing weight slightly. I think it was measured D3 without it. 45.75" is standard length for the LST, but with D4 swing weight from factory. Factory standard is 22-gram tungsten backweight, but with 11g backweight for Tyrrell, he can put 9g-11g extra hot melt low and forward. This should produce a lower spin driver then factory, but less forgiving. Probable will sound better also.
I like how they call black tape “black tape.”
Radar......."The Pro's dont get any preferential treatment".......my arse.
Tyrell's getting a back up driver free, actually no, he's getting paid by Ping and getting a back up driver. 😂😂
Great job Jack! 👍⛳️🏌🏼♂️
How much did that driver cost him????
no fargiviness here?
Im surpised he did not take a few shafts and check flex and weight to pick the best
Good point but I believe he did that before the video as well as cherry-picking the head
It’s hardly rocket science chaps …. Sorry but they just glueing stuff together ( slowly to make it look difficult 😂)
Or justifying inflated prices
Love what you normally do radar ❤️
I’ve just moved from a mizuno st-z230 to the ping g430 max,unbelievable club has changed my game big time…great fairway finder…🔥🔥🔥👌👌
2:39 "We don't want Tyrrell's head flying off." "No, we do not." Underrated comments. 😂
Measure twice cut once lol. He measured cut measured. I think hes slightly off on how that is done
Ha ha ha.....we get exactly the same as the Tour Pros......don't think so.
Guy says “you get the same thing as the pros no special treatment” as they are in a video showing all the special treatment. Lol. They deserve it
No preferential treatment for the pros he says from a million dollar truck dedicated to the pros 😂
Why didn’t you pure the club or spine the club? Why just line up with the graphics?
During the process why didn’t you just leave him to do it , you made comments and to touched things
It’s just a shame we get awful shaft options in the UK. Up your game PING or keep losing customers
Wish I had new set of light weight irons instead of the cheap heavy $200 set really check them in friggin lake today stiff and +1 inch
It’ll be destroyed within a month 😂
He gets his in 20 minutes I have to wait 4 to 6 weeks 🤔
He definitely cut that a full inch! Video evidence.
old adage "measure twice, cut once" yes but it's 'measure, measure, cut' not 'measure, cut, measure' . LOL- must really be the new adage
Yeh I caught that one too. Only one that used a tape measure a lot in the past catches that one.
This is a meditation video for golf nuts!
Pings have been my choice for over a decade
Hi @PING! When ordering a driver, is it possible to add hot glue at the factory? Thanks :)
Thank you for the question. Yes, you can request this service from the retailer upon ordering.
Doesn't the grip need more time to set up before trying to hit?
Depends on the type of tape and liquid used. Generally it’s like 45 minutes to an hour but some stuff, like mineral spirits, dries quicker
In WRX the combination of tape and solvent the drying time is only 15 mins
Said 1/2" tip job. Cuts 1"
!5 minutes, nice! I have only been waiting 6 weeks and counting for my new G430.
Legend has it, you're still waiting! haha
crushed up glass... like sand lol
It's amazing that these players swings are so precise that a gram here or there makes a big difference to them. When you think about it a gram is almost nothing.
Not a pro anymore but I’ve been on the same driver build spec wise for almost two decades. I started building clubs in the mid nineties and I can manage too heavy but too light and it’s like I’ve never had a club in my hands. It’s interesting how some players are very sensitive to weight or grip size and other just go ham with anything.
Gram probably means a lot when half a degree makes such a difference in a swing
@@mitchjones9282 sure does..
No FLO on the shaft???
Hilarious commentary as Radar was exiting the van! Lol
Got fitted for a 430max with kali x flex, been seeing lots of fairways so far 👍
We are glad to hear that. Thank you for playing PING. Play Your Best.
다른건 다 좋은데 컷팅기가 별로네요
Nice shirt Radar!
Wow, fab.
Are the shafts pured?
no it’s logo down
I was thinking the same thing. When I saw they don’t bother to “pure” the shaft for a PGA Tour player, it made me wonder if Club Champion is selling us snake oil…. 🤔
@@wiscobuckeye Pretty sure there have been a lot of people on the internet that have shown no discernable difference with pureing. You might be able to see the difference on a frequency machine if you let the shaft flex/cycle a dozen times, but I have yet to see any evidence that it actually has any influence during a golf swing. One of those things they sell you on like insurance: "if you're spending the money, wouldn't you want to cover every possible variable? You never know/it could help/etc."
that smoke and mirrors ship has sailed. High quality shafts don't need to be pured from what I've read.
No need with the shaft you just saw being installed. They are the "full blown" manufacturers model and not the cheapo ones that are produced under licence for us average golfers hence the big difference in their retail price.
Ping: always doing things the dumbest ways possible
If it's for Hatton I'm guessing it's a 35 inch long shaft?
...and made to fly on it's own.
Just one question, who is Tyrrell hatton?
Build it strong cos the man child Hatton will slam it into the turf when he misses a fairway
He's not the only club slammer on tour by a long way. Rory for one.
Something wrong with quality control if a 10.5 head with 1 degree less loft is 8.75! What the hell are consumers buying?
Tour sleeves work VERY differently to consumer ones.
You can adjust them in ways you wouldn't believe.
@Moe Syzlak I know but the tour truck guy said it was 10.5 degrees and was reducing by 1.
@@JMEAUS22 the sleeve he has is identical to off the rack sleeves. The heads have manufacturing tolerances, that's why he had a few 10.5's lined up. He found one that was actually 9.75 and put it in the small minus setting to get 8.75. A tolerance of +/- .75 degrees from stamped loft is not uncommon.
@@habitualflipper5640 Good info. I know TM, Callaway & Cobra have sleeves that can go 4°. Interesting.
@@bert1450 I thought the same thing until my fitter at club champion told me that’s only true for TaylorMade. Adjusting a ping’s loft up or down leaves the face alone apparently…