Because she broke she killed her sister which was the only family she had and she's been looking for her since she was a child Atlas wanted family members dead to show loyalty so they did a order 66 on the town her sister was in and she didn't realize it until it was over kind of like how kratos killed his wife and child but then realized what he has done.
@@noahdean9685 he watched the same video bruh. All he said was he liked that line he didn't need a someone who just watched that same video explaining what occurred to explain it to him
How awkward would it be if she went back to Atlas to train a new Omega Squad from Rhys's constantly Echo begging her after the attack from Maliwan. Of course she would be calling the shot from there on in training along with Springs being a Mechanic to Atlases new experimental vehicles.
@@mistermann4163 yeah I feel like maybe athena could be put into b3 maybe in season 2 of dlcs and she could be working with atlas in someway I'd love to see that since in tales she was working eith Rhys
It was super weird how Athena and Watcher just kinda disappeared, had it not been for their use of Aurelia, I would have sworn they completely ignored TPS but with how they handle Rhys and Vaughn, it almost feels like didn't care for TftBL
Yeah, Athena and Watcher missed, but as well as Helios and Scooter, so tales from the borderlands is somehow cannon. But if it is cannon, then TPS as well, because Tales has direct reference to everything happened in TPS (Nakayama's Jack copy is from mission in Helios, Janey + Athena love). So in reality we should see reference, while we don't. Also in the end of BL3 there is a meeting between Vaughn and Rhys in arts
@@GaryTurbo Well after TTBL and going into her capture to retell the events of TPS, I'm pretty sure Athena would have had some level of a role after The Watcher's warning. But lets say she did completely retire after all that, there's still the fact that she was completely missing from the game all together and no where to be seen, not even a mention.
i wish knoxx had survived, then retired to record audio books, his voice is so full of gravitas. the sort of gravitas you can only get after 50 years of smoking cigars and swilling scotch...
Knoxx would’ve been extremely happy & proud to see Rhys Strongfork running Atlas as both a respectable corporation, one that genuinely cares about the well-being of it’s people.
Yeah let's hope she doesn't have that bloodlust of killing every single Atlas member whenever she's brought back up in bl3...gonna be awkward for her when she sees Rhys as the CEO of it or founder I think
@RoboPotato if she was in borderlands 3 Junior could have hired her to kill the new CEO of Atlas but when she finds out who it is she turns her back on man who hired her
@RoboPotato Well I hope they do bring her back maybe like she gets back into bounty hunting but Janie said if you're going to get in danger then I am too if we're going to die we're going to die together.
I still like the original a lot too. I really enjoy the desolate empty feeling of it. The screaming of bandits and stuff gets a bit tedious after a while but I think the sound design improves in the later games so that kind of thing is less redundant. Consider though how there's actually quite a few years in between games. B2 is 5 years after B1. B3 is 7 years after B2. So 12 years between B1 - B3. That's actually a pretty realistic chunk of time for people to settle on Pandora/Elpis/etc. for corporations to rise, for even things like celebrity phenomena to occur within a culture. Although I get where you're coming from, I think these developments are only natural within their own context. So the franchise might as well capitalize on them. After all, I wouldn't want just more of the same. That's what made the original special in the first place.
I mean, the first game had a mission in which a guy pays you over $40,000 to get his semen-stained pornography magazines out of the trash and a place called Midgetville. Like, I get what you're saying, but let's not pretend the original wasn't super fucking silly, too.
Knoxx Is probaply the only Atlas soldier that is actually nice. He cares about his Assasins and soldiers, diesnt want to start a fight without any reason, doesnt underastimate the Vault Hunters. Knoxx is a well done character and It woulnt have hurt to see echos in bl 2 about him or atleast a mission to try to revive him after his death in the robolution/Claptrap döc.
Athena has a special place in my heart. She's so strong, vulnerable, tragic, and ultimately hopeful. If that doesn't describe basically all of my relationships then I don't know what does! ... Wait, what does that say about me?!!?
Athena is great. Despite being raised as she was, she still has moral compass which was seen well in the pre-sequel when compred with Nisha or Wilhelm. Her story in TftB was also very good. Of course like many things in that messed up in the New TftB. The one who had an idea of making Athena CEO of Hyperion should be fired from a cannon into a moon.
Remember how Lilith wanted her dead even though Lilith was no better than Athena if not worse than Athena since Lilith is the reason so many people are dead
Remember How ITS a game with flawed characters in a planet with no saints and they have the right and ITS more interesting If they mess UP and have chance of making mistakes as real people You know...? Like a bunch of other characters did... Because they have flaws...
And responsible for WHAT, for fuck sake?!? Jack made his OWN CHOICES, a the dude was a Full grown man with a sadistic since side since the start of TPS, Jesus Christ these Jack stans are the worst shit I ever Saw. ITS like he isnt responsible for anything, its like ITS supposed to be ALWAYS fault of other characters
I always wondered if Athena was a fake name. I mean the Omega assassins had names of goddesses from Greek or Roman mythology like Minerva or Hera and Athena is also a name of a goddess from Greek mythology. And since she was leading the whole brigade of Lance Assassins on Pandora it's logical that Athena was one as well. Also Atlas itself is also a name from Greek mythology. Additionally Athena's sister's name was Jess. And while this could be a Jaime - Tyrion situation, something tells me that it's not. So my theory is that Atlas took those girls from their parents, trained them, brainwashed them, gave them a new name and killing their parents and perhaps other family members was not only show of loyalty but also a proof that their former selves were dead.
Because she lost a lot she was forced to kill her own sister because Atlas didn't want any family members getting in the way something that has to do with loyalty but in a dark way and she was trying to find her sister and leave but it was too late so she decided to fight back and destroy Atlas.
Maybe a video about Cassius, or just a general series on the origin/history of Companies, id love to know more about the chain of Presidents through hyperion, or the fall of dahl.
I dont know if you have done this yet but please do the History of Claptrap he's like the face of the franchise and was one of the first characters ever introduced
Knox reminds me a lot of George Washington after the revolution. He's a tired "old man" who just wants to retire, gets pulled into another conflict and leads with distinction, but is too capable to leave and too strong to die. The man just wants to sit under his Olvine and Fig trees and read a book.
We're on Earth did you get that footage at the 8:30 looks like you recorded it on your phone that being you downloaded a ROM of the game and somehow played it on your phone
In ancient Greece, Athena is the goddess of wisdom. And Atlas is the Titan that held the world on his shoulders. So is Athena in Borderlands named after the goddess or is that just a coincidence? And if not are all Atlas assassins named after ancient Greek goddesses? If so they're gonna run out of names really fast and lots of women are gonna share the same name.
Rhys should reach out to Athena and see if she would Join new Atlas as an instructor and train new female assassins in the better work environment. Her wife, Janey, can come too.
I still find it strange that Lilith, Brick, or Mordecai bring up their missions together during the General Knoxx DLC. And that the Crimson Raiders would work with known gangster, Valerie.
@@nicholassmith7984 a dev posted a tweet that said that it was a known character and that Shields on the guns were a big hint to who, plus athena was helping Rhys, who had the rights to hyperion
@@baaddooshgaming609 I would be interested to see how this came about, and why Rhys didn't just merge both. Though it's a little funny that they basically switched companies.
She only in borderlands one dlc and borderlands per sequel also tails of the borderlands game did not show up in borderlands 2 or borderlands 3 maybe 🤔 she could come in borderlands 4 if makes it I hope 🤞 there do would be awesome 👏
still got no idea how a assassin with a pair of swords transitions into a "defensive" gladiator the polar opposite of what she was trained to be since a child
it's sad and pathetic they set up this "war is coming" thing with watchers that are eridian guardians and they didn't deliver on it instead we got a disappointment that was boredlands 3 with miserable story
The fact that literally NO ONE knows where Fiona is... is the biggest mystery to be solved... hopefully she returns in a Future DLC or something And yes I know that this video was about Athena, but come on, where is Fiona?!
In this it makes Knoxx seem like a really good character
He was interesting. His Echo Logs were fun to listen to.
Btw as good character I meant like a good guy not as in interesting cause he prob is really interesting
If you found the echos throughout the commander Lilith dlc in borderlands 2, you tend to feel that way as you’re taking him out
@@JustinCglass I don't think Knoxx appeared in the Commander Lilith expansion.
@@nicholassmith7984 i think he said echo logs tho
Athena was pretty awesome. Her skillset in Presequel were alot of fun. Literally the equivalent of a Reverse Uno Card.
Especially with skills invested in here shield, she can litterally absorb all 5 elements and practically just say "no u" and fling it back at them
Every time I see Athena and Janey banter together, it makes me smile
same
Nah, always found Janey annoying.
One of my favorite lines:
She got a little stabby
Because she broke she killed her sister which was the only family she had and she's been looking for her since she was a child Atlas wanted family members dead to show loyalty so they did a order 66 on the town her sister was in and she didn't realize it until it was over kind of like how kratos killed his wife and child but then realized what he has done.
@@noahdean9685 he watched the same video bruh. All he said was he liked that line he didn't need a someone who just watched that same video explaining what occurred to explain it to him
One of my favorite character. Hope we get to see her in the future.
Hopefully.
How awkward would it be if she went back to Atlas to train a new Omega Squad from Rhys's constantly Echo begging her after the attack from Maliwan. Of course she would be calling the shot from there on in training along with Springs being a Mechanic to Atlases new experimental vehicles.
Yeah
@@mistermann4163 yeah I feel like maybe athena could be put into b3 maybe in season 2 of dlcs and she could be working with atlas in someway I'd love to see that since in tales she was working eith Rhys
Same here too
Athena is my favourite vault hunter and character in the series. Her ability is the most fun in my opinion.
Knoxx has such a good voice.
I love how Athena’s eyes glow red in her hood. Gives her a evil and sadistic presence
And yet she's not
It was super weird how Athena and Watcher just kinda disappeared, had it not been for their use of Aurelia, I would have sworn they completely ignored TPS but with how they handle Rhys and Vaughn, it almost feels like didn't care for TftBL
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Yeah, Athena and Watcher missed, but as well as Helios and Scooter, so tales from the borderlands is somehow cannon. But if it is cannon, then TPS as well, because Tales has direct reference to everything happened in TPS (Nakayama's Jack copy is from mission in Helios, Janey + Athena love). So in reality we should see reference, while we don't. Also in the end of BL3 there is a meeting between Vaughn and Rhys in arts
Because BL3 is a poorly written fanfiction of a game.
Actually Athena retired due to Janey didn't want her to be running around doing all that
@@GaryTurbo Well after TTBL and going into her capture to retell the events of TPS, I'm pretty sure Athena would have had some level of a role after The Watcher's warning. But lets say she did completely retire after all that, there's still the fact that she was completely missing from the game all together and no where to be seen, not even a mention.
Athena should be the New leader of the crimson raiders
Ooooooh I get it (she's crimson)
We need to use siren powers to bring back General Knoxx, kill Ava, make Knoxx a siren, and he will lead the Crimson Raiders
@@mightymonz Assuming you're serious: Wouldn't Knoxx suffer a curse similar to what Troy had?
Lol God no, but probably, I would assume he would get Mayas power from ava, who knows who has the leech power@@voltaicwinter9327
When I say God no I mean this being serious, all hypothetical lol
In online class:
*sees Eruptionfang uploads*
Me: IDC IM WATCHING BRO
Literally right now
imma be honest knoxx would have been awesome if he was alive to join the crimson raiders.
i wish knoxx had survived, then retired to record audio books, his voice is so full of gravitas. the sort of gravitas you can only get after 50 years of smoking cigars and swilling scotch...
Knoxx would’ve been extremely happy & proud to see Rhys Strongfork running Atlas as both a respectable corporation, one that genuinely cares about the well-being of it’s people.
After re-watching this again, I still can’t see how she would eventually end up as Hyperion’s CEO🥲
She deserved to just live happy with her wife, 😢.
It’s interesting to think how they’ll add Athena back into BL, since Rhys brought Atlas back from the dead.
Yeah let's hope she doesn't have that bloodlust of killing every single Atlas member whenever she's brought back up in bl3...gonna be awkward for her when she sees Rhys as the CEO of it or founder I think
@loafhero ok yes you have a point, I kinda forgotten about that since I never really had a chance to play TFTB (which I'd love to)
@RoboPotato if she was in borderlands 3 Junior could have hired her to kill the new CEO of Atlas but when she finds out who it is she turns her back on man who hired her
@RoboPotato Well I hope they do bring her back maybe like she gets back into bounty hunting but Janie said if you're going to get in danger then I am too if we're going to die we're going to die together.
I miss how serious borderlands used to be... I feel like every game since the first has been a parody of the previous.
I still like the original a lot too. I really enjoy the desolate empty feeling of it. The screaming of bandits and stuff gets a bit tedious after a while but I think the sound design improves in the later games so that kind of thing is less redundant. Consider though how there's actually quite a few years in between games. B2 is 5 years after B1. B3 is 7 years after B2. So 12 years between B1 - B3. That's actually a pretty realistic chunk of time for people to settle on Pandora/Elpis/etc. for corporations to rise, for even things like celebrity phenomena to occur within a culture. Although I get where you're coming from, I think these developments are only natural within their own context. So the franchise might as well capitalize on them. After all, I wouldn't want just more of the same. That's what made the original special in the first place.
I mean, the first game had a mission in which a guy pays you over $40,000 to get his semen-stained pornography magazines out of the trash and a place called Midgetville. Like, I get what you're saying, but let's not pretend the original wasn't super fucking silly, too.
Bro the games were never serious.
I really like the way you've gotten the style of these videos down. The music is also a nice touch. Nice vid
Knoxx Is probaply the only Atlas soldier that is actually nice. He cares about his Assasins and soldiers, diesnt want to start a fight without any reason, doesnt underastimate the Vault Hunters. Knoxx is a well done character and It woulnt have hurt to see echos in bl 2 about him or atleast a mission to try to revive him after his death in the robolution/Claptrap döc.
*dlc
Tha j you for finally doing Athena! She’s my favorite vault hunter throughout the entire series!
Well She's in charge of Hyperion, and with mora vaults still out there, as well as the corporation wars happening, safe to say she'll return.
Athena has a special place in my heart. She's so strong, vulnerable, tragic, and ultimately hopeful. If that doesn't describe basically all of my relationships then I don't know what does! ... Wait, what does that say about me?!!?
I do hope she somehow comes back. Not sure how or when, but I’d love to see it. She’s always been one of my favorites
knoxx has an awesome voice actor i wish he was a side character in the franchise
Athena is great. Despite being raised as she was, she still has moral compass which was seen well in the pre-sequel when compred with Nisha or Wilhelm.
Her story in TftB was also very good. Of course like many things in that messed up in the New TftB. The one who had an idea of making Athena CEO of Hyperion should be fired from a cannon into a moon.
I fell in love with her character in takes everyone was just so likable in that game
Well since we're on the topic how about the history of Janee Springs
She’s a scrap dealer, and she’s gay. That’s literally all they portrayed about her.
I hope athena returns in a borderlands 3 dlc or in borderlands 4
I hope she makes another appearance soon :o
I swear this series is just one massive mythology reference/joke
Who else wants them to make a borderlands 4 already?
Only if they bring back Maya. The fuck was that shit?
@@WorldzMo5t3pic Yeah it was so stupid and also AVA!?!?!? get her powers... like what
Yeah, lets wait 4 to 6 years.
After the shit narrative that was bl3, no. Just let sleeping dogs lie
I’m tempted for GB to come out saying they’re j gonna make the Bl3 story not cannon
Remember how Lilith wanted her dead even though Lilith was no better than Athena if not worse than Athena since Lilith is the reason so many people are dead
Remember How ITS a game with flawed characters in a planet with no saints and they have the right and ITS more interesting If they mess UP and have chance of making mistakes as real people
You know...? Like a bunch of other characters did... Because they have flaws...
And responsible for WHAT, for fuck sake?!? Jack made his OWN CHOICES, a the dude was a Full grown man with a sadistic since side since the start of TPS, Jesus Christ these Jack stans are the worst shit I ever Saw. ITS like he isnt responsible for anything, its like ITS supposed to be ALWAYS fault of other characters
I always wondered if Athena was a fake name.
I mean the Omega assassins had names of goddesses from Greek or Roman mythology like Minerva or Hera and Athena is also a name of a goddess from Greek mythology. And since she was leading the whole brigade of Lance Assassins on Pandora it's logical that Athena was one as well. Also Atlas itself is also a name from Greek mythology. Additionally Athena's sister's name was Jess. And while this could be a Jaime - Tyrion situation, something tells me that it's not.
So my theory is that Atlas took those girls from their parents, trained them, brainwashed them, gave them a new name and killing their parents and perhaps other family members was not only show of loyalty but also a proof that their former selves were dead.
I think that Borderlands 3 should have a dlc of where Janey and Athena get married.
Athena made the pre-sequel playable
seemed kind of bunk that they made her a siren and lost the swords
One thing I like about her character is that she always look so grumpy.
Because she lost a lot she was forced to kill her own sister because Atlas didn't want any family members getting in the way something that has to do with loyalty but in a dark way and she was trying to find her sister and leave but it was too late so she decided to fight back and destroy Atlas.
@@noahdean9685 I don't why r u telling me everything I already know about her in such details, but u do u.
@@panrevan758 I wish she was in borderlands 3 she would have fit in the promethea story of the game.
Who has ever played the pre sequel and said what is going on in Athena’s head
i miss athena, hope she returns...
Ahh Thank you for continuing this series :)
Athena was my fav, ahead of axton. Loves these stories
Maybe a video about Cassius,
or just a general series on the origin/history of Companies, id love to know more about the chain of Presidents through hyperion, or the fall of dahl.
FINALLY THANK YOU
Last time we actually seen Athena was the ending of Borderlands: Pre-Sequel
Teeechnically last time was in tales of the borderlands no?
@@JohnyMCness yes on that one
Every EruptionFang "the history of" video:
having made his/her debut...
I dont know if you have done this yet but please do the History of Claptrap he's like the face of the franchise and was one of the first characters ever introduced
Probably I'm wrong, but I think the claptrap we see in the first borderlands it's the same that appears in borderlands 2, and pre sequel probably is.
@@Kelquir The claptrap from 1 is the same as 2, Pre-Sequel and 3.
@@justataco1776 well that guy passed through a lot of shit
Hey can you do a history of crazy Eral... Eril...
Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr guy you give iridium to...
Earl aint that difficult, just early without the y.
Dammit i had to edit for typos.
Crazy eral erl erel?!
Claptastic Voyage best Borderlands DLC... anyone else?
Tiny Tina's assault on dragon keep better (just because of old school RPG vibes is better then chaotic nature of claptrap)
Knox reminds me a lot of George Washington after the revolution.
He's a tired "old man" who just wants to retire, gets pulled into another conflict and leads with distinction, but is too capable to leave and too strong to die.
The man just wants to sit under his Olvine and Fig trees and read a book.
I've been waiting on this one!
We're on Earth did you get that footage at the 8:30 looks like you recorded it on your phone that being you downloaded a ROM of the game and somehow played it on your phone
lmfao
Oh, I was just wondering about this
One of my favorite characters by far
In ancient Greece, Athena is the goddess of wisdom. And Atlas is the Titan that held the world on his shoulders. So is Athena in Borderlands named after the goddess or is that just a coincidence? And if not are all Atlas assassins named after ancient Greek goddesses? If so they're gonna run out of names really fast and lots of women are gonna share the same name.
In case you did not notice there was a theme going on with 'em
There are a quite a few greek names in BL. Look at "Pandora".
Can you do a history of crap trap I also want to know who made him and his brothers and sisters
Rhys should reach out to Athena and see if she would Join new Atlas as an instructor and train new female assassins in the better work environment. Her wife, Janey, can come too.
When is the War coming that the watcher warned us about? BL3 DLC?
Hope one day we get to see Athena and janey married!!!!
That's Mr. Shank
You heard of elf on a shelf, now get ready for Athena on Athenas
I still find it strange that Lilith, Brick, or Mordecai bring up their missions together during the General Knoxx DLC. And that the Crimson Raiders would work with known gangster, Valerie.
I feel bad for general knoxx.. he seemed like a nice guy.
Didn't we lost Jess to the Rakks?
Please do Maurice next!
do Mr. Torgue next
one of my fav chars after rhys and zero
Athena is now CEO of Hyperion
One woman in pre sequel she's my second main for it otherwise she's a beautiful character besides moxxi as one of my favourites
12:38
you should probaly do a video of gaige or maybe ZER0 or Janey!
What's the BGM used in this video? It's very nice and I'd like to listen to it on my own :D
Oh hi, didn't Typhon De _see_ on you there
This made me like knoxx so much more.
one question, how did you get general knoxx's echo in borderlands pre-sequel?
Who is running the hyperion in borderlands 3 btw The weapons has built in shield system any relation to Athena ?
History of Handsome Jackie PLZ
what about that hint from gearbox, hinting she was put in charge of hyperion
Where did that appear?
@@nicholassmith7984 a dev posted a tweet that said that it was a known character and that Shields on the guns were a big hint to who, plus athena was helping Rhys, who had the rights to hyperion
@@baaddooshgaming609 I would be interested to see how this came about, and why Rhys didn't just merge both. Though it's a little funny that they basically switched companies.
I don't recall the Pre-Sequel featuring Knoxx
She only in borderlands one dlc and borderlands per sequel also tails of the borderlands game did not show up in borderlands 2 or borderlands 3 maybe 🤔 she could come in borderlands 4 if makes it I hope 🤞 there do would be awesome 👏
How come athenas head look like 0 but in prequel it look like o
I feel terrible for Athena
Can you do a history of sanctuary or cl4p tr4p
Now we need hammerlock or eista
Now I know how Athena got captured
still got no idea how a assassin with a pair of swords transitions into a "defensive" gladiator the polar opposite of what she was trained to be since a child
Can you do the history of Roland
Crap never mind ummm Marcus? If you haven’t done his history
Athena is the best character in all bl franchise
Athena!!
History of Dr. Cassius?
I love me a powerful woman, and Athena is the top of my list above Moze and Amara.
what ? i thought vallory hired brick and mordecai ? anyone help
can you do gaige if you havent already
Ye that would be dope
History of loaderbot when?
Pog
it's sad and pathetic
they set up this "war is coming" thing with watchers that are eridian guardians
and they didn't deliver on it
instead we got a disappointment that was boredlands 3 with miserable story
Do Claptrap
Damn I miss SupMatto, no offense to you man, but he used to do this shit. Fuck
Do the history of claptrap
Athena is that b****!!!
I prefer Her to lead crimson raiders
History of F1AK?
The fact that literally NO ONE knows where Fiona is... is the biggest mystery to be solved... hopefully she returns in a Future DLC or something
And yes I know that this video was about Athena, but come on, where is Fiona?!
Agreed!
Didn’t she get teleported by the vault
@@yeetyeup3392 yes but so did Rhys 🤔 right?
@@HellHell71 I think they got teleported different places but I could be wrong
@@yeetyeup3392 Yeah, but no one knows where she went