@@SWEETVENOM100 it’s a good car as a daily driver I like it.. drives smooth takes corners really well.. comfortable to me at least… sounds amazing. Like a v8
GlassTopRX7 Maybe just a good NA tune up should suffice. Its 3500lbs, maybe lose the back seat. Replace stuff to make it lighter. Who knows really. Its a really good chassis and the engine revs really smooth too.
Mark Speed6 There isn't much room to tune modern engines these days, sure you might squeeze a little more out of them with a tune as the manufacture has to keep emissions in check but it's not going to be much at all. The stock exhaust and intakes are often as good or better than most aftermarket stuff in term of performance.
Texarmageddon Heat soaking is easy to deal to solve with the large frontal area of the Camaro. As for handling you could leave it stock as it's only going add 50-75lbs to the nose. I'm nearly certain you wouldn't need to do a thing to take it 400-450 at the wheels. Might even be able to pull that off with a cheap ass procharger kit. Now if you want it be a better track car you're going to upgrade the suspension anyway.
Got my 2017 V6 1LE for $30k, otd...took it to the track twice. Keeps up with most M cars and is insanely fun to drive. Also gets a ton of looks on the road.
Camaro has pretty much escaped the stereotypical trope of muscle cars being about straight line speed only and not being able to corner. A V6 Camaro is basically Chevrolet's answer to Nissan's 370Z. Getting the 1LE track pack on it makes it a Porsche 911 killer.
This car is quick. I love that there is a serious performance v6 version. I actually believe this car is more fun/usable on the road because you can use more of what it has. Sub 5 sec 0-60 times are no joke. From what I understand a simple tune unlocks another 30-40hp. Dang... Could be looking at my next car. My only issue? I hate that stupid hood wrap.
Like they say it's much faster to drive a slow car fast than it is a fast car slow.. Not saying the V6 Camaro is slow but it's not as fast as the V8 and those are some very impressive times from that car.. I've always been a V6 hater if it's in a Camaro or Mustang but with these motors I don't know how you can hate anymore because their way faster than what the old V8's were
@@honda116969 ohhhh yea I feel the same way. I feel bad for all the people who bought a 2010 Mustang GT and the 2011 V6 was faster than the ole 3V. I have never owned a Chevy yet but I'm really impressed with the track capabilities of the Camaro! I'm a Ford guy but there is no question Chevy has a much better chassis for track use. I'm currently looking because I have a 2018 GT but it's just not up to par for track duty.
The 2015 Mustang GT turned in a 3:05.2, 1.2 seconds slower than this car. The GT had the Performance Package. www.caranddriver.com/features/ford-mustang-gt-at-lightning-lap-2015-feature Interestingly, it's also 11.6 seconds faster than the 2015 Mustang Ecoboost with the Performance Package. That car may not have been healthy for that test, though. www.caranddriver.com/features/ford-mustang-ecoboost-at-lightning-lap-2015-feature
it would still be nice to see what the 3.7l mustang would do if it wasn't govern at 115mph. Did they ever do a LL wit the ecoboost mustang? also this Camaro sounds great.
Not aware that C&D ran the 3.7 EB, or 5.0 at LL. Ford ran the GT350R. The Camaro V6 1LE did best the '15 Mustang GT, '11 Shelby GT500, '11 CTS-V, '13 M5, '16 Lexus GS F, and was within .5 seconds of the 707HP '16 Charger Hellcat.
They did run several other Mustangs... The 2015 Mustang GT ran 3:05.2 and the 2015 Mustang Ecoboost PP ran 3:15.6. So Ford's got some catching up to do in the tiers below the GT350. www.caranddriver.com/features/lightning-lap-2016-results-historical-lap-times-and-more-feature
Where does this car get it's class-crushing speed? Tires? HP/weight, and balance are similar to others that are much slower. Possible that it's delivered with UHP summers vs. all-seasons on the others?
Price problem for the V6: V6 1LE as tested was $43,185 (lap 3:04) while the V8 1LE as tested was $45,700 (lap 2:54) so for $2,515 more you can get the V8 which was 10 seconds faster. Hard to make an argument for buying the V6... but i guess I could point out the V6 is 227 lbs lighter and probably feels more responsive and better balanced.
Sounds like the V8 was a 1SS and the V6 was a 2LT. Luxuries play a big role in cost. You can get a similarly equipped V6 for about $7500 in savings with the 1LE package. I'd say it's worth it, especially considering the performance is adequate for most people considering the weight savings allow the V6 to breathe in this new gen. But I'm biased.
The A/C compressor is *supposed* to shut off when going full throttle. I don't know how efficient that all is, but the bigger loss likely comes from the condenser generating extra heat in front of the radiator.
imo, sounds meh, turn in and exits seem stable but guess i expected better results from that much suspension tuning. idk maybe drive error, just need to test drive one for myself. i like how they put up number from cars that are years old and 2 of them are over 10 years ago.
Has a lower, less exciting tone than a VQ but with exhaust tuning that changes, trust me, haha. I agree its annoying they put up such incomparable cars but at the same time... 8 seconds faster. That's a lot of time on a track... A lot.
I don't know what you're trying to achieve... do you think I'm a GM fanboy or something... I actually prefer Nissan and older Datsuns to American motoring companies like GM but I think GM is putting out a better product than Nissan currently. The 370Z is played out and Nissan is being lazy on new releases. 8 or 9 years later and the facelift the GTR... good job. I think the best days of Nissan are in the past and the worst days of GM are in the past as well.
Dear Chevrolet, Make a new compact, weighing less than 3000lbs, with this motor driving the rear wheels through a manual transmission. Price it around $22k, starting. Call in the Monza. Build it, and they will come. Regards, Motoring Enthusiast
Texarmageddon Not that Subaru or Mazda couldn't hit that price point if they wanted to... GM is a lot higher volume manufacture. So, start it at 22k with a 4cly. But the point is that a lightweight compact with that motor could be a performance bargain.
idriwzrd Subaru and Toyota Collaborated together for one car and they didn't even hit that price range. Anything coming in less than 3000lbs making making anything over 250hp will never start at 22k. Nor would it sell enough... nor would they want it to take sells from the vette. Again, it's a nice dream but that's not even possible anymore.
They did make the Solstice GXP which was 2800lbs and 260hp for ~$25k a few years ago...and it sold allright, but not great. I agree, this engine in a smaller sports car would be great...but I don't think a Monza will happen.
Dolby 109 Its too bad Pontiac (and Saturn) were killed off before that car could really be developed. The same platform with a coupe or small four-door would be great, but the Monza name is just wishful thinking. Chevette, maybe?
Well this is still an excellent option for people who care more about track performance than power, and are on a tighter budget. But if you have the money the SS 1LE with the LT1 V8 and other upgrades spanks everything in its price range until the GT350R.
One of the best sounding V6's I've ever heard. Nice job Chevy!
I live my 2021 v6 1le
@@legend_of_louie649 how is it to daily!? Tell us moar
@@SWEETVENOM100 it’s a good car as a daily driver I like it.. drives smooth takes corners really well.. comfortable to me at least… sounds amazing. Like a v8
@@legend_of_louie649 what care some cons? And that’s awesome to hear!
@@SWEETVENOM100I’ll fill his place (2018 v6 1LE) the main con is definitely the visibility
That 3.6 V6 runs hard !!!
Man this 1LE package on a V6 is very enticing. I think I just found my track car.
Strap a set modest turbo's on it and would it would be a 700hp beast.
GlassTopRX7 and mess up the handling and have to worry about fixing heat soak?
GlassTopRX7 Maybe just a good NA tune up should suffice. Its 3500lbs, maybe lose the back seat. Replace stuff to make it lighter. Who knows really. Its a really good chassis and the engine revs really smooth too.
Mark Speed6
There isn't much room to tune modern engines these days, sure you might squeeze a little more out of them with a tune as the manufacture has to keep emissions in check but it's not going to be much at all.
The stock exhaust and intakes are often as good or better than most aftermarket stuff in term of performance.
Texarmageddon
Heat soaking is easy to deal to solve with the large frontal area of the Camaro.
As for handling you could leave it stock as it's only going add 50-75lbs to the nose. I'm nearly certain you wouldn't need to do a thing to take it 400-450 at the wheels. Might even be able to pull that off with a cheap ass procharger kit.
Now if you want it be a better track car you're going to upgrade the suspension anyway.
Fantastic car and best sounding car in that price range.
Considering it was almost 10 seconds faster than a 2010 Mustang GT V8, it's more than impressive.
Crazy that the 2011 V6 Mustang was a second faster than the 2010 GT!
Impressive. Most Impressive. And still the LL1 Class Leader 5 years later by nearly four seconds.
Got my 2017 V6 1LE for $30k, otd...took it to the track twice. Keeps up with most M cars and is insanely fun to drive. Also gets a ton of looks on the road.
Vincent Calicchia, I went from an SUV to a 1LE (V6) and find that the left lane clears way more often for me. Noticeable difference!
Class record of over 8 seconds. Damn thats impressive
Chevrolet is easily the king of performance
am I the only one that like that machine gun v6 sound?
Dang! That was faster than last years Mustang GT with the performance pack! 0_0
Camaro has pretty much escaped the stereotypical trope of muscle cars being about straight line speed only and not being able to corner. A V6 Camaro is basically Chevrolet's answer to Nissan's 370Z. Getting the 1LE track pack on it makes it a Porsche 911 killer.
This makes me respect the V6 Camaro, I also hate it because it beat my car in time haha
That was a nice run... Very impressive...
After 6 years the V6 1LE is still the quickest in the LL1 price range. The V6 is still the quickest by around 2 seconds. Excluding the turbo 1LE
I just hope people buy this car! Priced one out on their site, 1ls with a 1LE pack.. 33k! not bad at all.
It sounds a bit like a E34 M5 for me :D Like dat sound :)
Now that just kicks ass for a V6 !!!!
faster than an evo? And faster than a mustang gt? Wtf?
And 8 seconds difference?
Its a new game folks =)
This car is quick. I love that there is a serious performance v6 version. I actually believe this car is more fun/usable on the road because you can use more of what it has. Sub 5 sec 0-60 times are no joke. From what I understand a simple tune unlocks another 30-40hp. Dang... Could be looking at my next car. My only issue? I hate that stupid hood wrap.
Like they say it's much faster to drive a slow car fast than it is a fast car slow.. Not saying the V6 Camaro is slow but it's not as fast as the V8 and those are some very impressive times from that car.. I've always been a V6 hater if it's in a Camaro or Mustang but with these motors I don't know how you can hate anymore because their way faster than what the old V8's were
@@honda116969 ohhhh yea I feel the same way. I feel bad for all the people who bought a 2010 Mustang GT and the 2011 V6 was faster than the ole 3V. I have never owned a Chevy yet but I'm really impressed with the track capabilities of the Camaro! I'm a Ford guy but there is no question Chevy has a much better chassis for track use. I'm currently looking because I have a 2018 GT but it's just not up to par for track duty.
Faster than V8 base mustang GT :D
That GT is a 2010 lol
Ok :) lol. Why they compared it to so irrelevant time then?
The 2015 Mustang GT turned in a 3:05.2, 1.2 seconds slower than this car. The GT had the Performance Package.
www.caranddriver.com/features/ford-mustang-gt-at-lightning-lap-2015-feature
Interestingly, it's also 11.6 seconds faster than the 2015 Mustang Ecoboost with the Performance Package. That car may not have been healthy for that test, though.
www.caranddriver.com/features/ford-mustang-ecoboost-at-lightning-lap-2015-feature
Hell the V6 1LE exactly matched the 2011 Shelby GT500!
I think GM said that the V6 is as fast around a track as the previous gen 1LE V8, which I owned for a while.
Impressive V6, I have wondered why GM did not develop more of them when they had the 3800 that was so good esp when super or turbo charged.
Its outdated. Pushrod design. Now that old tech would be fine in a V8, but for a v6? No. They need something better and thus they made the DOHC 3.6
Considering that the ZL1 1LE ran a 3:45 on the same track that's impressive
I love this V6 Camaro 1LE but if I had that then I would do the ATS-V engine swap with the Tremec TR6060 gearbox
it would still be nice to see what the 3.7l mustang would do if it wasn't govern at 115mph. Did they ever do a LL wit the ecoboost mustang? also this Camaro sounds great.
Not aware that C&D ran the 3.7 EB, or 5.0 at LL. Ford ran the GT350R. The Camaro V6 1LE did best the '15 Mustang GT, '11 Shelby GT500, '11 CTS-V, '13 M5, '16 Lexus GS F, and was within .5 seconds of the 707HP '16 Charger Hellcat.
They did run several other Mustangs...
The 2015 Mustang GT ran 3:05.2 and the 2015 Mustang Ecoboost PP ran 3:15.6. So Ford's got some catching up to do in the tiers below the GT350.
www.caranddriver.com/features/lightning-lap-2016-results-historical-lap-times-and-more-feature
That V6 went H.A.M.
Where does this car get it's class-crushing speed? Tires? HP/weight, and balance are similar to others that are much slower. Possible that it's delivered with UHP summers vs. all-seasons on the others?
Very good drive 👍
impressive for a V6 Camaro
Damned awesome for the $, 1LE on the V6 was a smart move, hope sales improve
Great car wow
is it worth to buy a camaro v6 1le ?
Price problem for the V6: V6 1LE as tested was $43,185 (lap 3:04) while the V8 1LE as tested was $45,700 (lap 2:54) so for $2,515 more you can get the V8 which was 10 seconds faster. Hard to make an argument for buying the V6... but i guess I could point out the V6 is 227 lbs lighter and probably feels more responsive and better balanced.
Sounds like the V8 was a 1SS and the V6 was a 2LT. Luxuries play a big role in cost. You can get a similarly equipped V6 for about $7500 in savings with the 1LE package. I'd say it's worth it, especially considering the performance is adequate for most people considering the weight savings allow the V6 to breathe in this new gen. But I'm biased.
Faster than an evo 👀
It sounds like they added REV match to the 1LE V6?? Can anyone confirm
no they didn't ...
Why does he have the AC on full blast? Doesn't that draw power?
It wastes more fuel but it doesn't take power from the engine
That is not true necessarily. If the compressor is belt driven by the motor then yes it will take power from the engine.
yeah it does but modern Ac compressors draw like maybe 1/3 of a horsepower
The A/C compressor is *supposed* to shut off when going full throttle. I don't know how efficient that all is, but the bigger loss likely comes from the condenser generating extra heat in front of the radiator.
I knew the was a 6banger. The SS would have it at least 150 in the straight away easily, this barely hit 120.
It's the manual actually, the auto would of had that thing doing atleast 128-130
What is this car able to do with an actual good tire on it?!
So much for previewing your product! 335 horse power? Are you sure?
This car has a GM LFX 3.6L V6 outputting 335HP and 284 lb-ft tq to the crank. I think they're sure.
its it a V6?
Yes.
Yes, they still have the SS 1LE as well...but now they added the 1LE to the V6 (which basically gets you the SS suspension and brakes).
Lots of body roll, Camera shows it almost rolling over in the corners. LOL. Naw...runs decent for a V6 though.
imo, sounds meh, turn in and exits seem stable but guess i expected better results from that much suspension tuning. idk maybe drive error, just need to test drive one for myself.
i like how they put up number from cars that are years old and 2 of them are over 10 years ago.
Has a lower, less exciting tone than a VQ but with exhaust tuning that changes, trust me, haha.
I agree its annoying they put up such incomparable cars but at the same time... 8 seconds faster. That's a lot of time on a track... A lot.
TonyisGaming it only took GM 11 years to catch up.
8 seconds = catching up... ok.
yeah, and at the end of the day it is still a GM = Government Motors
I don't know what you're trying to achieve... do you think I'm a GM fanboy or something... I actually prefer Nissan and older Datsuns to American motoring companies like GM but I think GM is putting out a better product than Nissan currently. The 370Z is played out and Nissan is being lazy on new releases. 8 or 9 years later and the facelift the GTR... good job. I think the best days of Nissan are in the past and the worst days of GM are in the past as well.
Dear Chevrolet,
Make a new compact, weighing less than 3000lbs, with this motor driving the rear wheels through a manual transmission. Price it around $22k, starting. Call in the Monza. Build it, and they will come.
Regards,
Motoring Enthusiast
IF Subaru and Mazda couldn't hit that price point with 100-200hp engines.... I dunno why you'd bother to ask lol.... but you can dream I suppose.
Texarmageddon
Not that Subaru or Mazda couldn't hit that price point if they wanted to...
GM is a lot higher volume manufacture. So, start it at 22k with a 4cly. But the point is that a lightweight compact with that motor could be a performance bargain.
idriwzrd Subaru and Toyota Collaborated together for one car and they didn't even hit that price range.
Anything coming in less than 3000lbs making making anything over 250hp will never start at 22k. Nor would it sell enough... nor would they want it to take sells from the vette.
Again, it's a nice dream but that's not even possible anymore.
They did make the Solstice GXP which was 2800lbs and 260hp for ~$25k a few years ago...and it sold allright, but not great.
I agree, this engine in a smaller sports car would be great...but I don't think a Monza will happen.
Dolby 109
Its too bad Pontiac (and Saturn) were killed off before that car could really be developed. The same platform with a coupe or small four-door would be great, but the Monza name is just wishful thinking. Chevette, maybe?
wow....that wasn't even the V8...
Hellcat 3:?? lol
V6 Camaro - no thanks
Well this is still an excellent option for people who care more about track performance than power, and are on a tighter budget.
But if you have the money the SS 1LE with the LT1 V8 and other upgrades spanks everything in its price range until the GT350R.