Chris Simms on Deshaun Watson's play: 'The magic is gone' | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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- Mike Florio and Chris Simms don't expect an elite version of Deshaun Watson any time soon after a disappointing outing to start the year for a Cleveland Browns team that remains a "giant wild card." #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #NFL #DeshaunWatson
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Chris Simms on Deshaun Watson's play: 'The magic is gone' | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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Quit calling this trade awful…as a Texans fan, we thought it was the bomb
Rebuilt the team with those picks
I think it's the second biggest robbery in training ever. An amazingly Texas teams were on the winning end of both
We fleeced the doodo browns 😂
Yea texans got them foos 😂
You were bound to get one go your way after the Tunsil trade with ol' Billy at the helm lol
Both Baker Mayfield and the Texan won this Cleveland Browns trade. 😂
What has Faker won? I’ll wait. Lmao 😂
@@Lawrence-sk8ttanother playoff game
@@eliotoledo7980 garbage
Baker was the perfect QB for Cleveland. Hard working blue collar never give up.
@@Lawrence-sk8tt Exactly Another playoff game, and a new contract as a starter for a team that wants him
He just looks soulless on and off the field. You can see it in his eyes and body language. Hes done. Period.
100%!!
He is pretty soulless as a human so it makes sense
Baker is having a wonderful Monday morning in Tampa.
One game, let’s calm down, so did Derek Carr.
@@jo0123 ehh. Baker had last season too.
@@jo0123Carr has always been ok. I don't think anything in week 1 was different than the past
@@jo0123 Any real Browns fan would go back in time and keep Baker over Watson.
@@scottsodyssey2485that's not saying much
Watson has been trash last 3 years! On sunday Deshaun 53% 169 yards 1 td 2 int 55 rating. Baker 80% 289 yards 4 td 0 int 146 rating. Baker is clearly the better qn now and has been since the trade. Berry made a huge mistake.
Baker sukd during the trade,horribly, but he is better now
Dudes confidence is shot. Massive contract plus he knows that pretty much everyone hates him.
He just needs a helping hand.
@@softjones3128 😂😂😂
It's probably 50/50 cause you got some people that call bs on that me too 💩
@@softjones3128 😂
Seems more like he lives in an echo chamber where he actually believes everyone loves him and he has done nothing wrong
Man, if Deshaun doesn’t get better, this sets the Browns back for years. They’re stuck with him until 2027, they lost their first round picks, they’ll need to find a new QB which is not easy. By the time Deshaun is gone a lot of good Browns players will probably be gone too. This could put them back to complete 5 year rebuild that doesn’t even start until 2027.
Haslam says this a decade decision, they won;t ever walk away because this is Haslam's pick. He is now 0-2 when it comes to choosing a QB, 0-3 if you count dumping Baker who is going to the playoffs again this year.
They can, and will, dump DeShaun after the 2025 season because it won't be a huge cap hit.
It's already starting & Baker is laughinggggg 😂
@@pete6705 This could be another 10 year setback for them
@@SladeBling his cap limit keeps going up because they are adding defer years.
it is like 76 million this year and over 90 mil next year.
As a devoted Browns fan going back to Brian Sipe's Cardiac Kids, I look forward to the day Watson is gone so I can once again root for them as I did. It's so bad, I'm actually happy for Baker's success in Tampa!
Ditto!
As a Ravens fan, I look forward to that day also! Maybe then I can finally concentrate most of my energy cursing the Steelers again, as it should be! ;)
100%!
@@RomeeRaven As a Steeler fan, I agree. Eff the Ravens and the Browns ; )
Same bro, I love Baker. He played with such passion, really helped dig us out the 1-31 hole. I'm happy he got another chance to shine, I still love watching him.
He doesn't care. He got his bag. He can retire very wealthy. Cleveland blew that trade. 😢
That's literally why he went to Cleveland.
He laughed at cleveland and was gonna go to atl and then cleveland did this.
@@thestarisalie never go full browns
@@talldreamyopposum
Never go full b l a c k at qb.
The magic has been gone since the allegations 💀
You can clearly see his shoulder is damaged
@@excaliburofthelevant5750 cope harder
No more happy endings 😢
The allegations had 0 effect on me personally, as everyone is innocent until proven guilty. This trade itself was stupid across the board. The value that they were letting go (Baker) and replacing him with (A D. Watson that was already out of the league for a year) didn't make any sense unless they literally made a SB appearance at minimum. The Cleveland Clowns deserves every bit of this. The fans unfortunately do not.
@@excaliburofthelevant5750 how long does it take to get your shoulder healthy? dude took like 2 years off.
Intimidating a professional NFL defense is a tad harder than intimidating a masseuse.
The magic ain't the only thing gone. So are the happy endings! 😂😂😂😂😂
Even is Watson does play like his old self, I will never feel as special towards this team as I did watching Baker, Chubb, and Landry taking on the Chiefs in the Divisional round of the 2020 playoffs. That team, although "less talented" was so special and fun to watch and we threw that magic away. 😪 Honestly it hurts so much thinking about it. I'm just happy I knew to enjoy it while it lasted.
💯
That was the only year they had a chance with that team.. landry was on the downside, Chubb blew his knee out again. No way that team would have been a contender after that season
Exactly!
The Browns need a new owner as much as they need a new QB. The owner wanted Watson and he got what he paid for. Watson is not worth 4 million a year, to say nothing of $46 million.
I agree. You'd have to be nuts to take a coaching job with that franchise.
Thumbs up if you want Jameis Winston to start next week.
They traded 3 firsts, 2 fourths, 1 third, gave away Baker, and paid $230M guaranteed to Watson. Baker is the guy that went to an 0-16 team and lead them to the playoffs in his third year.
That one playoff win, was the only playoff win the Browns has had since 1995
The year baker was born and he wasn’t even born at the time they won it crazy work🤣🤣🤣
Baker was garbage at that time. He was barely an NFL player and was lucky to get that Carolina contract. He was not going to figure it out in Cleveland.
@@tArchStantont yea bro was hurt but hey at least Deshaun Watson an upgrade I’m mean yall upgraded his life to produce less than what bakers done for yall🤣🤣🤣
@@tArchStantont Baker played with a shoulder injury his last year with the Browns. How have the Browns been with Watson under center?
I never thought we'd see a worse trade than Cutler to Chicago, but this one managed to even outdo it.
Watching the game I noticed those 'dead eyes' on Watson.
I always say that to the people I’m with. Dead eyes. You can tell his spirit is gone empty
@MichaelSmith-uy4ui what are you doing to the people in your life that you consistently notice that they don't have life in their eyes...
@@chenzomutumbo9140dude is a predator and you think people wont notice his soulless eyes???? 🫵😅 imagine defending this creep
Dolphins fan here!
The media ripped the Dolphins for not taking this guy!
Who’s laughing now?
Really Chris? "Everybody looking at him [Deshaun Watson] weird because of what **happened to him**". What happened to HIM? Nothing happened to him--he did it to himself.
You’re reading too deep into his choice of words. He was just trying to keep the pace of the conversation, we all know what he did.
The majority of people knew what he meant. Clearly wasn't being sympathetic to deshaun and his allegations back in 2020. As Aaron Rodgers says R-E-L-A-X
Here's a thought. . . Baker Mayfield: 23 for 29, 247 Yards, 4 Touchdowns, ZERO Interceptions against Commanders. Great Deal Jimmy Haslam!
vs a 31st ranked defense...he had 2 wins last year vs teams with winning records...is he better than DW right now yes...but he's not a HOF QB...AB took a shot on what he thought was a top 5 QB, and missed...Check out Baker's stats down a score with less than two minutes to go...he's a front runner who always throws the killer pick...yes, this trade looks terrible now, but staying with just, an OK QB, wasn't good for me either...there were a lot of teams who wanted Watson, so, it's just not The Browns...
@@MarkJones-rl9ph AB only did what Haslam told him to do. This is 100% haslam's pick just like Johnny Manziel was haslam's pick.
Here’s a thought. Faker has won nothing
Baker is destroyed under that pass rush.
Mayfield definitely looked good lol
Are Browns fans done being in denial about this awful trade? 😅
As a browns fan I called exactly how this would play out the minute we traded for him… I have documented video proof as well…. We aren’t all delusional.
We never were, the front office was and continues to be.
Not completely.
As a Browns fan I wanted us to keep Baker.
@HomeDefender30 good think you documented it! Sorry bro, it really is a messed up situation for the fans most of all. I'm a Pittsburgh fan and even I feel bad for thr Browns fan base.
Is Flaco still available???
No. Absolutely not.
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This won't have a happy ending.
Don't forget to bring a towel.
Great point by Chris…”They called the game like they don’t trust him”. That’s exactly right. You could also say they called the game like it’s his first preseason appearance.
I didn’t watch a lot of the game (I was watching Red Zone), but I noticed the same thing. It looked like they were calling plays you’d call in practice or something.
They actually saw him in practice. They knew.
not many people trust him tbf
Nick Caserio deserves a freaking statue at the facility for this trade
Deshaun is not just a broken quarterback; he is a broken human being. I believe that this is because he never acknowledged his wrongdoing. He continues to deny that all those things he did were heinous and disgusting. When he finally admits that those things he did were so very wrong, and that he terribly damaged a bunch of fine young women, only then will he be able to get past the consequences of the evil that he committed. When he finally takes true responsibility, it will be freeing for him.
how do you know what he's done. he definitely don't owe you anything. you wilding bruh that's not how life works. DW is bad because he is just bad rn
he is making alot of money to be bad so he gone be alright. whatever he did has nothing to do with you dude go fix your own heart
@@livingstone1974 why do people always come to the defense of others who have fallen short of their potential, or done wrong things? We need to hold professional athletes to very high standards and not let them get away without criticism when they fall short
@@TomReichner who is people?why do people always say why do *people"? You see how that works? Take your emotions out and see what's really going on. Nobody is defending DW. The theory of the comment is being challenged. Know the difference
@@TomReichner he’s defending that those allegations never went anywhere, so you can’t really say anything about it, he said hes bad lmao
Baker: Does Cleveland miss me now??? Watson is beyond trash!
Facts
Most of us didn't want to get rid of Baker. Blame the ownership and front office for this debacle.
The guy has been mostly off the field for the past 3 years due to a combination of different reasons. I'd like to see him play a few more games before reaching any kind of verdict on him.
Bring back Tyrod Taylor!
Trash franchise
Browns should cut him after this season and start all over again, swallow your pride and accept the worst trade of all time.
They should have cut him at halftime last night. LoL
That’s be a 120,000,000 cap hit ….not gonna happen
when they first showed Deshaun on camera during the pregame, he already had that defeated look in his eye. dude looks lost
He looks lost. Like I feel he wants to just ride out 2 years and drift into being over rich for the rest of his life.
He doesn’t have that look. Remember baker mayfields look? Dude is confident and driven and looks right into the camera
Something Chris Simms is actually qualified to talk about - bad QB play.
Says the loser who couldn't even play high school football, making your opinions invalid based on your own logic
@@StephenNatoli-l6j Says the successful NFL QB, right? That you, Peyton?
The worst part of the whole Watson trade, besides his poor play, is that he's never once admitted to doing anything wrong in Houston. Regardless of the suspensions where the NFL confirmed that he did all the things he was accused of, he still tries to act like that never happened. I think having to dance around the reality of what's happening to him is why he'll never be the player he was in Houston.
Yeah - Not owning up to it makes the situation worse. It's why "everyone" hates him, not ~ 50% of everyone.
Even when he was in Houston, he used to play good against bad teams and struggle against quality teams. Texans won 4 games with him at QB in his last season with them.
he was a beast in Houston. let's not change history
Yes after trading away every other star and firing their coach. That alone don’t end up well for teams.
I think people also overlook that Watson took tons of sacks in Houston and was always bottom 5 in the nfl. He is a qb that gets sacked easily. Shallow passing stats look great if you take sacks at a higher rate instead of trying to make a play that might risk incompletions or interceptions and worsen your passer rating. His passing stats did not tell the whole story about his play
Literally had his best statistical season when we won 6 games and less help.
@@diehardeaglesfansince1994 with DHOP
DeShawn "can somebody give me a hand" Watson
You media clowns built Watson up into something he wasn’t.
IF he was even half the player you guys pretended he was, the Texans would have kept him. Ask Texans’ fans how they felt about the guy before he left…………
The problem with Watson is that he is really dumb. He can’t process information, read defenses, and make quick decisions. That’s why he runs around in circles and throws balls up for grabs. He’s an athlete not a quarterback
Every time he looks at his bank account he gets a spark in his eye.
Serves them right for how they treated Mayfield. The dude was playing hurt, trying to will his team to wins but they tossed him under the bus.
💯 percent correct
That is for sure, Baker has heart.
I feel bad for Brown's fans. They can't even be the lovable losers anymore because of what the front office did. I can't feel any sympathy for the brows as long as Watson is on the team. The way they structured his contract so he would have almost no financial consequences for the suspension they knew he would get.
Watson has an excuse every game for why he sucks. Hopefully after Johnny Manzeil and now Watson Haslam will never "pick" another player.
I kept telling everyone that Watsons best season his team was 4-12, a fact no reporter seems to remember.
Meanwhile the average QB they dumped had a QB rating of 146 compared to watson's 50
I’m not a big Baker Mayfield fan but what the Browns did to him was completely unprofessional. 😊
@@matthewwalsh2404 Made me a buccaneers fan. I still watch the browns but the defense can't dominate when the offense is going 3 and out every drive.
The D was gassed before halftime.
It is going to be a long 7-10 year for the browns. Meanwhile the Buccaneers will be in the playoffs again.
Browns fans deserve better
No they don’t
One of the worst fanbases in sports. LeBron shouldn't have came back either 😂😂
Naaaah.
Florio used to play with his hair in high school
Burrow gets excuses... wonder why?😉
Game had no happy ending for Watson…Lmfaoooooo
Watson's ego is broken so all his confidence is gone. He is done imo.
It seems like No one cares that the man lost his father🤦
Cleveland is where QB’s go to die that’s the problem…
Watson has the audacity to take 45M a year like a bish.. If Im he Browns, we are going to have a sit down and discuss his contract.. Either take much less, or get the F out of here. Either way the Browns are screwed with a hopeless Ahole at QB and a contract that will stunt their plans moving forward.. Haslem is to blame, he wanted Watson, now look at the Browns.. Counting this year, he has 3 more years on the books, it will be another 10 years before the Browns make the playoffs or even sniff a winning record.. He has to go and he has to go NOW!!!
“ok, I’ll get the F out. You can wire my remaining guaranteed $134 million to my bank tomorrow. Good luck fielding a team with a $100M cap hit next year.”
He's a bum. Time to move on. He said been out of the game too long. Baker was pure Cleveland...underdog. I'd rather have him than this bum.
It’s not just Watson. Stefanski is the most overrated coach I have ever seen. And Cleveland is missing Callahan, offensive line coach and assistant, who went to Tennessee.
Same people praising baker now were hating on him when he was in Cleveland lol. Just admit y’all love to hate on the browns and I know Deshaun sucks
Crocodile tears for Watson. My concern is for all the women that were traumatized by this molester.
This contract will hurt the Browns for years to come. Barry should be fired just for this.
How are the Texans doing? Full of character and integrity!!!
I have to say i love this. The fact that they traded for him knowing those allegations means im not rooting for them anymore.
As a long time Steelers fan I find this absolutely hysterical. Any semi knowledgeable fan could see this coming a mile away.
and yet, people still believe watson is "special"
The only special is the punk is a multimillionaire now.
Steelers tried to trade for him lmao
Both him and Russ got traded and played pretty bad yet Russ got all the hate and not Watson this world makes no sense.
@@OTGEEZY Watson gets plenty of well-deserved hate.
@@rdspam Yah but at that time Russ was #1 hated
Watson is completely washed. Browns set their organization back a decade letting Mayfield go and giving up everything for this bum.
His Dad just died
Give him a break
He doesn't deserve it
Watson r’’ping the browns worse then art modell did
What’s funny is that Bryce young and Watson looked good under bill o brien. And now they look like straight busts.
I dont care about Cleveland but I bet Jameis Winton could win some games with that team.
He has never dealt with his misdeeds.
His dad died 3 days ago man 🤦🏼♂️ give him a break
Watson’s magic all got rubbed off
I would trade him straight up for Flacco and pay 75% of his salary. and that team would just hang up the phone.
Browns just getting what they deserve
I don’t know. He was solid against Baltimore in Baltimore last year, just before the injury. This could be the result of no preseason play. I’m hoping for the best but prepared for the worst.
Without his athletic running he has to rely on his accuracy in the pocket which is not his forte.
Deshawn was never a good QB, decent, yes, but not elite!
TRUMP is no better then Watson.
It’s all because Garrett didn’t want baker on the team anymore they don’t wanna talk about that tho
Everything happen in Houston ? Not Cleveland ? Blame Houston they let it happen ? A Browns fan since 1967.
"What happened to him" - oh dear Chris!!!!!! WOW!!!
Maybe Cleveland doesn't have good enough massage parlors.
I seems like Houston has the best rub n tugs
I don't feel bad for the Browns or the coaches they could have kept Baker, they treated Baker so bad that it made me a fan
As a browns fan, I have been done with Deshaun for a while but it’s 100% now. He doesn’t have “it” anymore. He’s not the same guy. This team will be mid this year and suck for at least 2 more years while they try to rebuild after losing all those picks and paying all that money for nothing. Were going to be the same old browns for a while with zero playoff hopes
I agree
No magic in Watson's game is because he won the payoff for life and doen's need the NFL any more! He is set for life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEVER underestimate the Browns, Bears, and the Jets to screw up good QB prospects!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PFT doesn’t need Sims!
Although he is not in prison, He is inside his own prison. The women he treated bad can watch his downfall slowly and know that those who treat the people like he did will feel pain and agony in embarrassing fashion. Karma!
That’s the crazy thing to give up those four first rounders the Browns have still somehow ended up pretty good. Think if they would’ve had those first four first round picks.
Here’s the rub
Broncos fans, I know Bo Nix will have some growing pains. I know our O line is overpaid. I know our defense is young and I still hate our D coordinator. I know we're paying 80 mil for someone to not play for us. But we're not in Cleveland's shoes, and I'm grateful.
Browns DESERVE what they get because of how they treated Baker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Fact-D Watson's father passed 2 days prior to game* . If you have an axe to grind Cleveland fans, grind it w Jimmy Haslem the Vaccine King.
Should've used the back up qb then. Also he ahould've played in the perseaon.
1:43... People don't look at him weird because of WHAT HAPPENED to him...
We look at him weird because of WHAT HE DID.
(allegedly).
Dude escaped like 8 sacks then threw the wimpiest passes to the ground. He had fear in his eyes
Maybe deshaun never wanted to go to clevland but he wanted the money so hes trying to get released lol
my fantasy team name is "give deshaun a hand!!" and the team logo is the hotdog in a bun 🤣🤣🤪
Everyone in Cleveland is hoping he has a season ending injury. We are done with this guy
No trade backs
That sad excuse of a receiving corps CANNOT separate, they can't run the ball, they can't protect him, and they're banged up on top of that. Now hes got ANOTHER 4 year old "assault allegation" thats probably going to get him suspended again. You're wondering why he doesn't have that look in his eye? Bruh
There never was any magic with Desaun Watson. His career QB rating is 99. Jim Haslam is the dumbest owner in pro sports.
"You gotta essa cute"
Stefanski is at fault for the play calling! He has been terrible since day 1! Watson......is he really the problem. Maybe. But Stefanski and Baker Mayfield did not get along and it was always Baker. Well....Baker went off and is playing quite well. And yet....we look the same. What has not changed? Stefanski and the lousy play calling. Yes....there are tons of questions about Watson! And it might be time to move on.....but ownership needs to look real close at Stefanski. You can not keep blaming the quarterbacks....especially when they go to another team and they look good!
Their have been 45 QB's in the NFL with 300 pass attempts since Watson became a Cleveland Brown. Of thoes 45 Quarterbacks Watson is 42/45 in completion % 43/45 in yards per attempt and 43/45 in passer ratting. Their are only 32 teams. So is their 13 backups setting on the bench better than Watson ? Bryce Young and Zack Wilson are the only Quarterbacks worse than Watson . Bottom line superbowl potential or not this BS is not worth it . Depodesta needs to go !
Stfu
About DAC he always does this and then first round of the playoffs. He going to get waxed.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
17 hits on QB…drop ball, int…forced tip int off parson………😫😫🤔..ima wait till week 6 b4 I judge…also deal Amari cooper…feel like I can find another dynamic threat…ADD TAIL BACKS…..Oline who worth a meal ticket
Wouldn't be surprised to hear one day that Watson has taken his own life
Good
I was saying that myself after I watched a back-to-back analysis of his game mixed with a rehash of his past.
Carson Wentz will be available to the browns next off season. Chiefs have Bailey zappe on practice squad,likely the backup next season.
Stfu
About DAC he always does this and then first round of the playoffs. He going to get waxed.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Joe
He gotta play with a stiff back now because y'all hated on his massage therapy routine. I blame the therapists.