@@JaymzWebb No its definitely a troll. You can literally hear him trying to contain his laughter at several points. The main takeaway is when he said he came up with the "freshly 18" line
Hey bro, my wife works in the Domestic Violence Prevention Business. This ALL sounds like “pre-abuse” behavior (regardless of legality). Google The Duluth Model for Domestic Violence Prevention, And the Power and Control wheel. Can i send you an email on the topic? if so, where and how? thank you!
To be fair it is justified to not let a huge platform call you a rapist and say you sexually assaulted someone. Especially when the same chick said it wasn’t that. I’ll be offended too
@@miri745i think we watched 2 different pod. 2 mins into the show ethan was already calling them names, Myron handled it well imo, ethan lacks integrity, he didn’t come for debate he came for viral clips
@@gideontasanmiwell you can't debate an idiot, so may as well mock them. I can understand not liking Ethan, but I don't understand how anyone seriously like Myron lol. Guess there's lots of kids online who still got a lot of maturing to do.
@@meowcat64 it’s not about liking or not liking lol Ethan is just dead wrong calling this dude a rapist based on his feelings especially when the chick was there and said it wasn’t that.
@@MS-bw8qcfresh and fit were incredibly bad faith in this interview. They played dumb constantly and would never actually give any hardline stances on anything. They tried to compare employers paying their employees less than what they make to employers telling their employees one wage and then paying them less behind their back. They said grapists should be put to death and then immediately changed it to grapists and murderers can change and be reformed when presented with video evidence of them laughing along with a guy explaining how he used to gang grape women(which Charleston White defends to this day btw and says that the white girls deserved it). That’s just the tip of the ice burg with this debate. These guys take literally zero accountability while they simultaneously berate women constantly for not taking accountability. They are absolute scumbags with no integrity. Some of the worst influences on young men I can possibly think of.
I just hate how Myron says Charleston turned his life around but let a former sex worker or a former alcoholic tell him she changed her ways and watch him shit on her for the whole entire podcast.
Ethan's best trait as an interviewer is how quick he is to give up on a small point that he doesn't care much about but his opponent is obsessing over. He calls Tate a sex trafficker and they immediately bpth dive for it so Ethan just goes, "I guess he's not, but how about the other stuff I said." He's great at maneuvering back to where he wants the discussion to be.
lol Making bold assumptions & stating them as fact isn’t impressive: the fact that he went on about Myron not being a “fed” or saying the only person who has anything to do with cases is the prosecutor was downright embarrassing.following it up w “ah well, I guess I was wrong” doesn’t mean much.
@isitoveryet9525 I'm not saying he did a perfect job or anything. He screwed up quite a lot. But as an example of of what I'm talking about, when they tried to sat he was racist by his own logic because he had said the n word, Ethan just goes "I guess I am racist. Anyways...." and just reclaims the whole conversation. It makes him very good at doing these very hostile, gotcha type interviews. Most people aren't that willing to throw negative stuff on themselves in order to keep pushing a point
hes okayish. hes very lax and indifferent which helps but he presses on lost points a bit much and lets em off the hook on other things very easily. but it weirdly worked
@@donniejefferson9554 yea. I mean its good to bring it up but i wouldnt immediately call it rape. But it could definitely be sexual assault if you just pull a girls shirt up out of the blue
Yeah, when they were hanging around Nick Fuentes, it really rubbed off on Fresh and Fit. It's kinda sad, but yeah. On top of that, a good portion of their community had left because one they weren't comfortable with F&F backing up a guy who thinks black people were genetically inferior and thinks the holocaust was overexaggerated or didn't happen. Along with, of course, the "Jews control everything" conspiracies.
Obviously being a holo denier is bad but hearing fresh and fit say these things is like hearing nick fuentes say black people aren’t really his fave type of people…. It’s bad but it’s not shocking in any way shape or form. You kinda expect it from those types of people. That’s what destiny is saying.
They had a known gang grapist on their podcast and laughed along while he told stories of how he gang graped white women, yet Myron says “I wouldn’t associate with Tate if he was that kind of person” clearly this is a blatant lie. Then you got the times that Myron wore the KKK hood and went on racist tirades, and he thinks it’s ok cause he is “black” but he is actually Arab. It’s very clear that these guys have absolutely no morals, it’s all about the hustle.
Lying about the taxes to your employees is 100% illegal. It doesn't matter if I'm making a billion dollars and paying my employees minimum wage, or paying them millions, I can't lie about what they make and the taxes I've submitted to the government on their behalf.
@@Macheako yes plenty of things that aren't addressed by the law. But lying to your employees about the agreed upon wages and paying them less is a crime called wage theft. So making a wage agreement to pay an employee 50/50 of what they bring in and paying them much less would violate that law.
@@samterrell9857 most employees don’t agree to a “cut” though (specifically a percentage) It’s usually a raw number. And while I agree this behavior CAN be pretty shady. But if they agree on a monthly amount and he pays her that amount…. They good
When Myron says Charleston White was a kid when he graped ppl because he was a teen, does he also think the girls Andrew and Tristan target at 15, 16, 17 are “kids?” Or they’re savvy adults who should’ve seen through 30+ year old professional scammers?
@@jalenwalker8790 Oh wow so you just think Andrew and Tristan lie about that? Why would they make that up? We have Andrew openly saying on FnF podcast that he continued to pursue after she told him she was 16. His exact words were do you not know who I am, I don’t give a fck. Tristan tweeted about fcking 15 year olds, he said he took the virginity of a 17 year old, he made video teaching guys how to hunt virgins and he said he wouldn’t mind if a 33 year old man pursued his daughter when she’s 17. They are extremely open about their antics with girls under 18. And don’t move the goal post by saying those ages are legal in other countries because that’s not what you said nor is that relevant to my comment. What you tate supporters do is adore everything he says and does but then deflect when anyone points out that it’s disgusting.
Failure to answer that question makes it look very much like Myron knows full well Tate is guilty and doesn't want to say anything he will have to back track later. He understands the hypothetical full well
Hmm people finding amusement and fun in little things in life tend to be happier. Let's just wish everyone happiness here instead, else projecting sadness might speak more about you than others.
@@RLQFK Not necessarily that format, it's essentially when you restate a statement that has the same meaning but different words. Both phrases will have the same meaning but maybe different words. A good example is when someone says "First and Foremost" these words mean the exact same thing.
If he woke up tomorrow morning with his past sexual conquests erased from his memory & was also suddenly broke with no Miami/F&F status he'd undoubtedly die a virgin.
How is Destiny not more critical about F & F playing dumb? Also having a bad faith conversation with Ethan. Lile seriously this is one of the worst Destiny commentary videos ive watched lol.
seriously... I haven't watched Destiny in awhile, what tf happened to him?? He barely talked and when he did it was running defense for Fresh and Fit. Why is he friends with Myron if he knows about the neo nazi stuff? super gross
Same. I was hoping he would actually be genuine about how much they are dodging and being children. But guess he’s too far involved with them. Myron literally called him at the beginning and is in the chat
@@fibbintiggins2858 Yeah, the whole "of course they are holocaust deniers, there is no point in talking about it" and "Ethan fell into the trap of saying you can't know the exact number!!" was mindbendingly dumb. Somethimes it feels like the priorities in his head are all jumbled from being friends with so many far right people.
My guess is they’re adults and are able to separate work and personal life and recognise that they’re similar kinda dudes, Idk about Fresh but Myron seems like he felt he needed to pander to an increasingly incel, redpilled, nazi audience for their platform to grow and I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t believe most of it, judging by how pathetically he defends it when challenged.
The way they come up with lies and excuses for that Charleston guy is crazy! I watched that podcast, they were super friendly and laughing along, it was not this uplifting story about him turning his life around he said he didn’t regret it and that he enjoys it. He didn’t advocate for people to turn their life around, he was just bragging about his horrific crimes. It’s crazy how they gaslight people and lie about what happened and who this guy is. This is guy is still has evil as he ever was, he hasn’t turned around anything.
I disagree, please watch Charleston White's interviews. He is 1000% playing a character for views. Google his name with prison reform and youth outreach. A 15 second clip does not paint the full story.
@@LoveRocketsable About what story not being true? The guy has a mile long criminal record, those are the facts on the books. So even if he is making up stories for attention, it literally doesn’t matter at all since we have the records showing he committed similar crimes. So why does any of this matter?
@@dylaroo24 he has no record of rape, everything else is absolutely true. But it’s also true that’s he’s a youth advocate, it’s true that he’s been to congress. But the rape thing is what you and most people get stuck on. He talks about it all the time that a lot of the talk is an act. Dude is a product of the black community, I know it’s hard for you to understand because you’ve never been around black people but he does more good than bad.
Ethan:“hypothetically, what if he did it?” fresh:“He didn’t” Ethan:“No what if?” fresh: “ Well he didn’t” Ethan: “Why don’t you answer the f*cking question” Fresh: “….I will not” Myron: “☹️”
I didn't really get why the story of the one guy was supposed to be gang rape. As far as I understood it she wanted to have sex but just with one guy? She wasn't prepared for it but he didn't say anything about if they forced her or if it just turned into a normal gang bang. At least from what I heard there is nothing explicitly saying it was against her will?
The conversation about how much Tate's girls were making really harkens back to when Martin Shkreli went to prison. His classic defense of his fraud with "all of my investors made a ton of money"
Good analogy, but I think it's even worse than that. With Shkreli none of his investors missed out on money IIRC, they just didn't realize he was running a ponzi scheme temporarily to pay each other off. Ultimately nobody was left out of pocket (still a scummy thing to do though as he was illegally risking their investment). (I might be wrong on this, just what I gathered from the case but I'm no expert.) With Tate he's just actively taking their money illegally and never repaying it.
It’s all on rumble and UA-cam has been taken down their videos because of the comments they’ve made on them so they decided to do a mass take down of videos. They’ve talked about this before.
Yes. He started off heavy and then lost the plot but not for getting intellectually outmatched but rather for getting sloppy and submitting to a bit of brow beating rhetorical slams
When you know a hypothetical is just to open the door to more bs obviously you’ll try to bypass it just like Ethan did towards the end when he was presented with a hypothetical he didn’t like.
@@Dwillztx well if he had confidence in his world views, he wouldn't be afraid to "open the door" to hypotheticals that challenge his core beliefs. What is this, weenie hut jr? Where alpha men just run away from any ideas that challenge their beliefs? Sounds weak mined af
There was malicious intent behind the first hypothetical. They are actually friends with tate it would not be a good look to be involved in a conversation about a serious matter about a friend (wether you like tate or not) I’m sure at some point we’ve all delt with someone trying to pit us against a friend. Would’ve been nice to hear a discussion revolving around actually interesting subjects
The salary explanation was so funny and watching them just go quiet cause they couldn't address the point directly without admitting taint was lying/stealing from his employees.
Anyone who watches that video of Andrew explaining how he manipulates them, brings a person in to lie to them and then steals their money and you don’t completely renounce him then wtf else is there to say to you? You’re sick.
I know right, it’s insane. Especially if ur one of the guys who looks up to him. HE WAS SCAMMING MEN LIKE YOUUUU 😭😭 Lonely, impressionable men. Men down. And he fucking, sociopathically, turned sad men into a system he could milk. Like wtf. Evil shit. Literal evil, no empathy type shit. He’s a two-faced snake. And yet these same men love him? What the actual fuck.
@@aslatty9167 You think Andrew sold a satirical course? Do you think he made his money totally legally but then decided to sell a course teaching how to make money illegally? Please, let’s really think this through it’s fascinating.
I genuinely think Myron is that dim. He just usually surrounds himself with yes men or people who are less intelligent than him, so it’s not as glaringly obvious.
@@mariek3460 the only reason I think he’s a bit smarter than what he lets on is because when he talks to Destiny he seems much more mature and able to follow arguments. Maybe it’s because he thinks Ethan is also working in bad faith but it seems like he acts this way with everyone but Destiny.
It wasn’t exactly a good faith collaboration. Ethan was farming for gotcha clips. They weren’t discussing idea, Ethan was just playing clips and pressing fnf to defend themselves. I wouldn’t expect anyone to engage in good faith after that because it would just feel like you’re being attacked. I am so far from a fnf supporter but this conversation would’ve been so much better if they were arguing about actual ideas.
Nothing Myron said is consent to lift up someone’s shirt. Going to your house, using mouthwash and kissing are all not consent. If you’re making out w someone and there are clues to both wanting to take it further then describe that… but he didn’t, he only argued all the non consent cues. I’m sorry but that is a massive issue with the mentality of dudes like that. Because when a guy forces himself on a girl they use all those same argument, well you went to his house what’d you think was going to happen. They don’t care about consent at all.
I was disturbed by both Destiny’s stance on it and everything I was seeing in the chat. It’s evidence that it’s not just MAGA dudes who don’t *actually* understand consent - clearly most dudes still just don’t get it. It really made me upset to see honestly:(
When he's debating people who actually do research and bring facts to the table, he is. Unfortunately, what Ethan was doing was not debating, but weaseling around with "gotchas" to try to --- I don't actually know what Ethan was trying to accomplish.
@@Billy-bc8pkThis is just not true. I hate the idol worship dogshit that is so prevalent online. You can be a redpill retard all you want, but defending these people is legitimately just a joke
Destiny is obsessed with finding some figure to get close with so he tries desperately to pump up people in his mind so he’s comfortable interacting with them. He did it with Lav, Brittany, Mr. Girl, etc I’m gonna edit this to clarify that I think he’s desperate for a friend/companion, not clout
Whether or not you think Myron lifting that girls top was completely fine or SA or whatever, what it did show is that Myron is a massive dork who no one should take advice from.
How does he know they are innocent? He didnt read anything. These men make themselves more important. We cant say exactly how many people died in WW1 does that mean it didnt happen? They will die alone.
Myron bringing up his past professional as knowledge is a double edge sword bc like he said they make arrest when its ready to be brought by court in trafficking like the officers THAT ARRESTED TATE how is no one making that connection
The Romanian authorities and the US authorities are not the same though. The US has extremely stringent standards and thus an incredibly high conviction rate. That could be the case in Romania, but we also don’t know. Myron’s point was that he has the qualifications to look at and interpret evidence brought forth against somebody.
Bro, I wouldn't believe Myron if he said the sky was up. He throws around that Fed shit waaay too much, not just about this. Each time that he references it, I grow more and more sure that he in reality probably just had some low level support job, with a tangential claim to Fed-dom at best
@@TheFloridaBro Pretty obviously a joke this isnt even the main channel and what he saw was probably a glitch since youtube is notorious for not reporting accurate views for awhile, usually to confirm its not botted.
Destiny's reaction when H3H3 makes an unfair accusation: This is so stupid, I can't believe he'd say this, this looks so bad. Destiny's reaction when F&F do some weird ultra-bigotry: Uh yeah? So what? Everyone knows that.
there’s a difference between the definition of a federal agent and the colloquial use of the word “fed” lol. when someone says the feds are on their way, nobody thinks the mailman and the bag boy at the grocery store are on their way😂
True, but he actually had a good line of questioning against them with the “would you support Tate if he was guilty” hypothetical, Ethan just lacked the knowledge I think the nail them on it. Myron said “I wouldn’t have been friends with Tate if he was that kind of guy” which is clearly a lie. Myron had a literal gang grapist on his podcast and laughed along with them as they told stories about gang graping white women. So Myron posturing saying things like “I don’t associate with people like that” is just a lie. Petty that Ethan didn’t have this information to nail them on it.
@@cephas5053 is that a "what about"ism ? What does that have anything to do at all ? I don't like Ethan much either. But then Walter is just as stupid as Ethan.
@@geniphillHis point was that it's people making assumptions -- and Walter made an assumption like Ethan did. The only people who would know they're not friends are people who assiduously follow both content creators.
@@Billy-bc8pk so Walter is dumb for making an assumption that aba and Ethan are friends even though they have never made any content together and both critize each other. the same way Ethan is dumb for thinking Charleston were friends with fnf because they were invited on a podcast while Charleston laughed and talked about white girl grape, with no pushback. Fnf mocks Ethan for doing horrible research, it's just a horrible contradiction on their end.
@@geniphillI might be a bad person I guess, but if someone just admitted to me that they raped a woman I most likely would laugh also out of shock and nervousness because of how crazy that is to say. Btw he was 12 when that happened, I’m not saying that takes away from the rape, but I definitely think that matters a little
I always know coconuts and toupee were stupid but this was mind blowing 😂. I swear they share a braincell. They argue like 13 year old smartasses. I never realised just how antisemitic they are either... Wow!
Myron: Anything against the mainstream media is "based" Mainstream Media: Do not eat your own feces, it is bad for you Myron: Wow, it's totally based to eat my own shit.
What an absolute waste of time this was. Myron is just "clever" enough to avoid questions and just tactless enough to make it blatently obvious that he is utterly biased and not as intellectual as he would like to pretend to be, while Ethan is just "clever" enough to ask a few good questions, but not clever enough to ask good follow ups, avoid making dumb arguments, or deal with the silly non-responses. And Fresh... well... he is who he has always been. Nothing important was said, nothing you didn't already know was uncovered.
By Myron's logic, if UA-cam pays in $1million, even though he's due $3 million, he should have no problem with this because they still made him rich and he had a mere 9-5 before. Meanwhile, Myron had a meltdown that he got demonitized. How do people still follow this guy?
Ethan shouldn't have insisted on that SA shit. He's off on that and too biased against them to see it. It just gave them ammo when they were coming off looking real goofy minutes before when they didn't want to admit that Andrew Tate saying he'd pay someone X and then paying Y (much less than X) was lying and illegal.
Had no idea how anti-Semitic and just generally scummy these people were. Also, shockingly unintelligent. To get destroyed by Ethan is pretty embarrassing.
Destiny is wrong on the Myron encounter, Ethan is also using the wrong phrase, sexual assault instead is sexual harassment but lifting up someones shirt and making fun of there body parts is sexual harassment and i doubt that was a consensual action.
My issue is Sexual Harassment is the making of unwelcome or inappropriate sexual remarks or physical advances. The physical advances is out the window because it’s clear as day that she consented and removed consent later on and then Myron let her go. Which is the right thing to do. But the other is weird. She was consenting to it and he made a sexual remark about her body. A sexual remark could be good or bad. If she consented to them possibly having sex and allowed him to raise her shirt, how could the comment be unwelcome? That would mean I could be in the middle of having sex and say “your pussy taste good” and then she could remove consent right then and there and then that would be considered sexual harassment? So I feel like what people are upset about is that the comment was rude and not that it wasn’t consensual. Cause then so many men could be put up with sexual Harassment because they made some type of sexual remark whether good or bad during sex and she just takes away consent right away. If he said her titties was nice looking would people say the same thing?
@@jalenwalker8790No, because harassing your sexual partner during a progressive sexual advancement in the sexual encounter is counter intuitive to the act your both consenting too. If were having sex, it's assumed we are both most going to do and say things that accentuate the sexual experience. Making unwelcome comments about ones body is not consensual by definition of it being unwelcome/unwanted and saying "your pussy tastes good" isn't unwelcome it's most likely encouraged because it's generally welcomed to accentuate the sexual experiences people have. You might be looking too deep into this.
@mr-h6xIt is by definition, Sexual Harassment. "Sexual harassment refers to any unwelcome behavior of a sexual nature that creates a hostile, intimidating, or offensive environment. This can include comments, gestures, or actions that belittle, demean, or objectify a person based on their body or sexuality." If those comments by Myron were made without consent and are unwelcome, they directly contributed to a harmful or harassing environment for the partner.
@mr-h6xIt would depend on the context of the relationship your in and alot of other factors like communication level and comfort with that person. This is assuming you have a known relationship with this person, Myron did not. Why would you ever need to make derogatory comments about your partner? Why say her body looks weird, in what situation, aside from casual banter, would this be an okay thing to do? This is besides the point as Myron wasn't even in a relationship with this person it was a booty call/one nighter which makes it even worse as the chances for unwelcome comments to increase drastically. "by your logic, if I'm in a heated debate and I call you stupid, I'm harassing you. " This isn't even a sexual harassment example but i'll bite. If you continued to use derogatory comments about my body during a heated flat earth debate constantly over and over, it would be harassment, by every universally accepted definition, we also entered a mutually consenting place were we agreed to be heated and debate ideas. Harassment is not just defined by how many times someone is getting harrassed it's determined by the act itself. If you started berating me and scolding me with personal attacks that would be considered a form of harrasment as that behavior is unwanted, intimidating, hostile, or offensive. If you have an issue with sexual harrasment as a term you can take it up with the people who coined it. I'm merely calling a spade a spade.
Which is super funny because he wields his FBI experience but when Tate is on camera saying he runs his business fraudulently, committing theft of his employees, they all of a sudden run to the “it’s Romania bro.” Like why can’t the same be said about his knowledge in the US versus Romania.
Not true at all. If you have knowledge of how these cases are prosecuted, why not give a take? Sure, they're different countries but they're similar enough that it's relevant
When Myron is going on all about how feds don’t indict until they’re ready for trial, what’s the point? That’s exactly what happened in this case too. I just don’t get what point he thinks he’s making. Seems Ethan got just a bit tripped up on that part but it wasn’t material to the argument.
Well the case isn’t in America so it’s not the same as UK which is takes women’s word at face value more than America does. What he’s saying is that he has experience in bringing evidence to cases such as this so he knows the process that goes along with it and the burden of proof.
@@jalenwalker8790 Absolute nonsense. The UK has a terrible record for prosecuting grape cases. When Andrew was in UK they searched his house and confiscated his electronics and according to him were about to charge him based on the findings, not based on anyone’s accusation alone, but he fled to Romania. That’s where he’s currently inducted based on several months of investigation and a mountain of evidence. The civil suit in UK isn’t even based only on accusations but on Andrew’s own words. Literally nothing Myron said had anything to do with Andrew Tate’s cases. When you go around acting like there’s no evidence and the world is against him you just sound like a cult.
Destiny may shit on me as a socialist all the time, but I understand he's still a good enough liberal & our mutual hatred of Trumpers & their BS makes us the predator arm meme
Bro couldn’t back up a single claim of his💀. He was calling Tate a trafficker for years and folds with a second of pushback. He completely walked back his rhetoric he’s been pushing for uears
@@user-jm9gj9ph6e He literally showed videos and photos proving Fresh and Fit wrong and made them run away from answering questions constantly. What are you talking about? 😂😂
Two grown men in their mid 30's who haven't emotionally matured since 9th grade. That's what Myron and Walter are. Ethan treated them as sport and as if he has no respect for them whatsoever.
@@natediaz1863They really didn't. Ethan did horrible, but he still beat them since he was objectively correct on plenty of topics, FNF were just acting like 9th graders and were being bad faith the entire time.
Fresh and fit aren’t failing the meme hypothetical test. They aren’t answering because even if he is found guilty, they will find a way to say that the evidence is false or something along those lines, so regardless of evidence they’re going to back their dude.
I agree they would do that, but i think that makes them not answering the question even more retarded. Because if you know you are just going to call what ever evidence comes out bullshit you shouldnt be worried about it coming out
“Do you think we breathe oxygen?” Fresh and fit: “what do you think” Bruh this was such a dumb debate it might actually have given me a form of cancer.. Ethan should have really prepared better for this holy fuck..
34:15 I think the easier argument against Tate would be the actual tax evasion. He outlines accepting payment in bitcoin to mask his income to avoid paying taxes.
I think the H3H3 vs F&F debate was really silly. Ethan was trying to debate the way you do but he wasn’t that good at it. As expected Myron and Walter avoided answering questions about Tate.
1:35:58 Oh but when Hasan does the same thing with his tankie beliefs, Destiny has no problem shitting on him for that in multiple videos Absolutelly not carying water for FnF lol...
Didn't Destiny also start this video with lamenting conservatives who never honestly say what they think. He said he missed the Nazis that honestly state their opinions. These fnf guys are nazi level antisemitic but too cowardly to own that.
I say I'm going to give you two apples. I give you one apple and say the other got stolen, even though I still have it. Did I lie? "... Uh...well the thing is...y'know stuff is... well..." Bro, if you work for Fresh and Fit, call the Department of Labor immediately.
Yeah all their advice skips to the part where you somehow have a large amount of capital and can be an entrepreneur or property investor. But they never talk about how to get from 0 to somewhere lol
I never really watched Fresh and Fit because it seemed like a one trick pony devoted to dunking on women, but I had no idea about all of this stuff. Even though I don't like the gatcha format, I'm glad Ethan made this video.
I think he said because at some level he respects Myron. But also , he literally said Myron was the new head of the Red Pill and that was the same day they did the racist stream toward Aba and Preach
he also said if anyone could lose a debate to pearl he worried it would be ethan lolol. not to mention, it is incredibly easy to “win” a debate against someone whose only responses to rebuttals are “mmhm” and “it’s just what i’ve seen”, etc…not that fresh n fit did very well in this case either lol.
Regarding the 19yro caller, I see a lot of comments and youtubers disparaging her with the reasoning that she shouldn't have been in the apartment alone with Myron, but that assumes an untrue context. The issue is that Myron and Walter already planned on splitting them up when getting something to eat. On the back way to his studio apartment, Myron said that they were going to meet up with her friend and Walter again, and that he just needed to get something from his apartment, which was probably bs, so she's there under a false assumption that he's just getting something. She also pushed him off the first time he jumped on her, tells her to use mouthwash for alcohol breath (which conveniently is in his en-suite) then he acts innocent before jumping on her again, after she had already pushed him off. Remember she's 19 and inexperienced, which is probably his type, and he is a self proclaimed "professional womanizer". I'd say the only fault on her, is that she didn't think that Myron and Walter were only interested in getting them (her and her friend) in bed, and would do creepy things for that goal. Again she's 19 and inexperienced, and they're super high body count guys.
"I'd say the only fault on her, is that she didn't think that Myron and Walter were only interested in getting them (her and her friend) in bed, and would do creepy things for that goal." The unfortunate reality is that even if she had made that assumption, she'd get lambasted for that, too. When you're a woman in that situation, you're either a c*nt for "leading men on," or you're a c*nt for assuming a man is just looking to get in your pants. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Destiny And TurkeyTom Get Destroyed By A Troll
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I still think he wasn't a troll. I think he got in over his head and used that as an excuse
@@JaymzWebb No its definitely a troll. You can literally hear him trying to contain his laughter at several points. The main takeaway is when he said he came up with the "freshly 18" line
u are so pathetic bro
At first they said you won't get covid and then you'll get covered but it won't be bad and then you will get covid but you won't die
Hey bro, my wife works in the Domestic Violence Prevention Business. This ALL sounds like “pre-abuse” behavior (regardless of legality). Google The Duluth Model for Domestic Violence Prevention, And the Power and Control wheel.
Can i send you an email on the topic? if so, where and how? thank you!
Myron gets so easily offended. He is like the antithesis of a cool dude.
To be fair it is justified to not let a huge platform call you a rapist and say you sexually assaulted someone. Especially when the same chick said it wasn’t that. I’ll be offended too
@@Officially_Unofficial1 regardless, he should calm down. He's giving I KNOW U ARE BUT WHAT AM I 24/7
@@miri745i think we watched 2 different pod. 2 mins into the show ethan was already calling them names, Myron handled it well imo, ethan lacks integrity, he didn’t come for debate he came for viral clips
@@gideontasanmiwell you can't debate an idiot, so may as well mock them. I can understand not liking Ethan, but I don't understand how anyone seriously like Myron lol. Guess there's lots of kids online who still got a lot of maturing to do.
@@meowcat64 it’s not about liking or not liking lol Ethan is just dead wrong calling this dude a rapist based on his feelings especially when the chick was there and said it wasn’t that.
Ethan’s goal was to treat Myron and Walter the way he treats girls on their podcast using their own disingenuous tactics and word games.
By lying about sexual assault? You're a real chimp...
i dont think so he came into the debate in bad faith. for the most part fresh and fit actually do give solid advice in the modern dating game
@@MS-bw8qclike finding a wife on a sugar babies site?
@@MS-bw8qchell nah
@@MS-bw8qcfresh and fit were incredibly bad faith in this interview. They played dumb constantly and would never actually give any hardline stances on anything. They tried to compare employers paying their employees less than what they make to employers telling their employees one wage and then paying them less behind their back. They said grapists should be put to death and then immediately changed it to grapists and murderers can change and be reformed when presented with video evidence of them laughing along with a guy explaining how he used to gang grape women(which Charleston White defends to this day btw and says that the white girls deserved it). That’s just the tip of the ice burg with this debate. These guys take literally zero accountability while they simultaneously berate women constantly for not taking accountability. They are absolute scumbags with no integrity. Some of the worst influences on young men I can possibly think of.
I just hate how Myron says Charleston turned his life around but let a former sex worker or a former alcoholic tell him she changed her ways and watch him shit on her for the whole entire podcast.
Plus Charleston is still committing crimes, doesn't sound reformed to me, right? 😂
Because she's likely not telling the truth?
@@Billy-bc8pk okay, how would you know that? Lol there goes the f&f fans, generalizing again 🤦🏽♀️
@@nunpho exactly 😂
Hahaha 😂
Ethan's best trait as an interviewer is how quick he is to give up on a small point that he doesn't care much about but his opponent is obsessing over. He calls Tate a sex trafficker and they immediately bpth dive for it so Ethan just goes, "I guess he's not, but how about the other stuff I said." He's great at maneuvering back to where he wants the discussion to be.
lol Making bold assumptions & stating them as fact isn’t impressive: the fact that he went on about Myron not being a “fed” or saying the only person who has anything to do with cases is the prosecutor was downright embarrassing.following it up w “ah well, I guess I was wrong” doesn’t mean much.
@isitoveryet9525 I'm not saying he did a perfect job or anything. He screwed up quite a lot. But as an example of of what I'm talking about, when they tried to sat he was racist by his own logic because he had said the n word, Ethan just goes "I guess I am racist. Anyways...." and just reclaims the whole conversation. It makes him very good at doing these very hostile, gotcha type interviews. Most people aren't that willing to throw negative stuff on themselves in order to keep pushing a point
hes okayish. hes very lax and indifferent which helps but he presses on lost points a bit much and lets em off the hook on other things very easily. but it weirdly worked
@Aryzo Definitely had a few too many bad points that he shouldn't have bothered with. Never should've brought up that "sexual assault" thing
@@donniejefferson9554 yea. I mean its good to bring it up but i wouldnt immediately call it rape. But it could definitely be sexual assault if you just pull a girls shirt up out of the blue
The Nazi stuff kind of caught me off guard, honestly. Didn't realize they were literal Holocaust deniers.
Yeah, when they were hanging around Nick Fuentes, it really rubbed off on Fresh and Fit. It's kinda sad, but yeah. On top of that, a good portion of their community had left because one they weren't comfortable with F&F backing up a guy who thinks black people were genetically inferior and thinks the holocaust was overexaggerated or didn't happen. Along with, of course, the "Jews control everything" conspiracies.
They literally sat with that filth Fuentes and agreed with him on most things. Hardly upstanding men those two
Obviously being a holo denier is bad but hearing fresh and fit say these things is like hearing nick fuentes say black people aren’t really his fave type of people…. It’s bad but it’s not shocking in any way shape or form. You kinda expect it from those types of people.
That’s what destiny is saying.
They had a known gang grapist on their podcast and laughed along while he told stories of how he gang graped white women, yet Myron says “I wouldn’t associate with Tate if he was that kind of person” clearly this is a blatant lie. Then you got the times that Myron wore the KKK hood and went on racist tirades, and he thinks it’s ok cause he is “black” but he is actually Arab. It’s very clear that these guys have absolutely no morals, it’s all about the hustle.
@@LegendInThaMakinI guess it was just of kind an "Ah, so they're THAT bad, then," thing, lol.
Lying about the taxes to your employees is 100% illegal. It doesn't matter if I'm making a billion dollars and paying my employees minimum wage, or paying them millions, I can't lie about what they make and the taxes I've submitted to the government on their behalf.
Are you allowed to lie to your employees about anything?
@@Macheako yes plenty of things that aren't addressed by the law. But lying to your employees about the agreed upon wages and paying them less is a crime called wage theft. So making a wage agreement to pay an employee 50/50 of what they bring in and paying them much less would violate that law.
@@samterrell9857some might argue there’s a distinction between taxes and wages
But your forgetting it’s in Romania, different laws.
@@samterrell9857 most employees don’t agree to a “cut” though (specifically a percentage)
It’s usually a raw number. And while I agree this behavior CAN be pretty shady. But if they agree on a monthly amount and he pays her that amount….
They good
Myron loves giving 304’s hypotheticals…
But now he doesn’t understand the concept
When Myron says Charleston White was a kid when he graped ppl because he was a teen, does he also think the girls Andrew and Tristan target at 15, 16, 17 are “kids?” Or they’re savvy adults who should’ve seen through 30+ year old professional scammers?
Except that never happened lmao
@@elhumild3 What exactly never happened?
@@missinterpretation4984we literally have no evidence of Tate targeting women under that age of 18 years old.
@@jalenwalker8790 Oh wow so you just think Andrew and Tristan lie about that? Why would they make that up? We have Andrew openly saying on FnF podcast that he continued to pursue after she told him she was 16. His exact words were do you not know who I am, I don’t give a fck. Tristan tweeted about fcking 15 year olds, he said he took the virginity of a 17 year old, he made video teaching guys how to hunt virgins and he said he wouldn’t mind if a 33 year old man pursued his daughter when she’s 17. They are extremely open about their antics with girls under 18. And don’t move the goal post by saying those ages are legal in other countries because that’s not what you said nor is that relevant to my comment. What you tate supporters do is adore everything he says and does but then deflect when anyone points out that it’s disgusting.
@@missinterpretation4984woah! Do you happen to know which interview he said this in by chance?
Take no position, deflect every question, have no opinion GIGACHAD
That's a wrap!
They went the “to win a fight just shit your pants they won’t touch you after that” strategy
"you wanna talk in person tho bro?"
@@RandomPerson-eh7mn Lmfao
Can't believe Myron actually failed the "How would you feel if you skipped breakfast this morning" 4chan meme question lmao.
😂
He's black too which makes it even funnier😂
Reference?
Failure to answer that question makes it look very much like Myron knows full well Tate is guilty and doesn't want to say anything he will have to back track later. He understands the hypothetical full well
@@rorynolan2322 I understand that. I thought there's some story behind the question. - "4chan meme question lmao"
Ethan is so fucking funny. Even when his argument or line of questioning was off F&F could not properly counter anything or point it out.
drunk master
Imagine saying Ethan is funny how sad your life must be 🤣
Hmm people finding amusement and fun in little things in life tend to be happier.
Let's just wish everyone happiness here instead, else projecting sadness might speak more about you than others.
@@kamikarmy 👨🍳
Ethan is not even a little funny
“All bachelors are unmarried.” The default example of a tautology.
So a tautology is basically a statement akin to "all x are [synonym to x]"?
@@RLQFK Not necessarily that format, it's essentially when you restate a statement that has the same meaning but different words. Both phrases will have the same meaning but maybe different words. A good example is when someone says "First and Foremost" these words mean the exact same thing.
This is a statement that we can use as true after we accept the definition of bachelor, this would be important for deduction reasoning i guess.
@@StoicFlame well isn’t that the case with anything?
@@RLQFK It's more like "all [x, y, z] are x". E.g. "all [unmarried, men] are unmarried".
Walter talks about sex like a virgin.
If he woke up tomorrow morning with his past sexual conquests erased from his memory & was also suddenly broke with no Miami/F&F status he'd undoubtedly die a virgin.
It's hard to believe even for me, a fan of fnf, but yeah, he does get tons of ass. I don't know how, but he does.
He doesn’t seem like someone about this life.
Even Ethan said so….”you seem like such a nice guy stuck in a bad group”
Acts like one too lol
@@acason4Unless you choose to that’s not real life. Just like most dudes you can just take whatever you can get or pay.
Bros actually did the "How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast?" Meme. Nick's strongest soldiers over here
How is Destiny not more critical about F & F playing dumb? Also having a bad faith conversation with Ethan. Lile seriously this is one of the worst Destiny commentary videos ive watched lol.
I TOTALLY agree
seriously... I haven't watched Destiny in awhile, what tf happened to him?? He barely talked and when he did it was running defense for Fresh and Fit. Why is he friends with Myron if he knows about the neo nazi stuff? super gross
Same. I was hoping he would actually be genuine about how much they are dodging and being children. But guess he’s too far involved with them. Myron literally called him at the beginning and is in the chat
@@fibbintiggins2858 Yeah, the whole "of course they are holocaust deniers, there is no point in talking about it" and "Ethan fell into the trap of saying you can't know the exact number!!" was mindbendingly dumb. Somethimes it feels like the priorities in his head are all jumbled from being friends with so many far right people.
My guess is they’re adults and are able to separate work and personal life and recognise that they’re similar kinda dudes, Idk about Fresh but Myron seems like he felt he needed to pander to an increasingly incel, redpilled, nazi audience for their platform to grow and I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t believe most of it, judging by how pathetically he defends it when challenged.
The way they come up with lies and excuses for that Charleston guy is crazy! I watched that podcast, they were super friendly and laughing along, it was not this uplifting story about him turning his life around he said he didn’t regret it and that he enjoys it. He didn’t advocate for people to turn their life around, he was just bragging about his horrific crimes. It’s crazy how they gaslight people and lie about what happened and who this guy is. This is guy is still has evil as he ever was, he hasn’t turned around anything.
There’s another podcast where he talks about how that story isn’t even true and how he talks like that to get attention. Plus he was about 14-15
I disagree, please watch Charleston White's interviews. He is 1000% playing a character for views. Google his name with prison reform and youth outreach. A 15 second clip does not paint the full story.
@@Gigadrane Did you miss the mile long criminal record? You can’t fake that…
@@LoveRocketsable About what story not being true? The guy has a mile long criminal record, those are the facts on the books. So even if he is making up stories for attention, it literally doesn’t matter at all since we have the records showing he committed similar crimes. So why does any of this matter?
@@dylaroo24 he has no record of rape, everything else is absolutely true. But it’s also true that’s he’s a youth advocate, it’s true that he’s been to congress. But the rape thing is what you and most people get stuck on. He talks about it all the time that a lot of the talk is an act. Dude is a product of the black community, I know it’s hard for you to understand because you’ve never been around black people but he does more good than bad.
Ethan:“hypothetically, what if he did it?”
fresh:“He didn’t”
Ethan:“No what if?”
fresh: “ Well he didn’t”
Ethan: “Why don’t you answer the f*cking question”
Fresh: “….I will not”
Myron: “☹️”
Timestamp? 😂
other way around fresh is coco nuts fit took a major L on a layup
I didn't really get why the story of the one guy was supposed to be gang rape. As far as I understood it she wanted to have sex but just with one guy? She wasn't prepared for it but he didn't say anything about if they forced her or if it just turned into a normal gang bang. At least from what I heard there is nothing explicitly saying it was against her will?
Why would he deal in absurd what ifs lol?
Soprano reference
The conversation about how much Tate's girls were making really harkens back to when Martin Shkreli went to prison. His classic defense of his fraud with "all of my investors made a ton of money"
Didn't even think about that but absolutely true
And not that it matters that much, but the average net salary in Romania is 1000 dollars. Gross its 1500
Good analogy, but I think it's even worse than that.
With Shkreli none of his investors missed out on money IIRC, they just didn't realize he was running a ponzi scheme temporarily to pay each other off. Ultimately nobody was left out of pocket (still a scummy thing to do though as he was illegally risking their investment). (I might be wrong on this, just what I gathered from the case but I'm no expert.)
With Tate he's just actively taking their money illegally and never repaying it.
It's as illegal in Romania, as it is in the US, to lie to your employees about the taxes that the company pays to the state's budget.
F&F showing off that room temperature IQ again
in celsius
Ethan should’ve been able to completely dominate this entire thing….which he didn’t. Theyre all bozos
Once they turn the stream on every time they do
32 Celsius lol
How?
"We don't hide anything."
Deletes the video hiding the evidence
Lol it's all on rumble.
It’s all on rumble and UA-cam has been taken down their videos because of the comments they’ve made on them so they decided to do a mass take down of videos. They’ve talked about this before.
fail
Ethan really out-boxing both of em.
No he’s not lol
@@swiftly5020 Yes he is, he made them look like clowns
For the first 30 mins
He made them look dumb with simple A questions .
Yes. He started off heavy and then lost the plot but not for getting intellectually outmatched but rather for getting sloppy and submitting to a bit of brow beating rhetorical slams
Myron not answering the hypothetical cos he’s well aware he’s stuck in a Tate fan audience capture prison…
When you know a hypothetical is just to open the door to more bs obviously you’ll try to bypass it just like Ethan did towards the end when he was presented with a hypothetical he didn’t like.
@@Dwillztx well if he had confidence in his world views, he wouldn't be afraid to "open the door" to hypotheticals that challenge his core beliefs.
What is this, weenie hut jr? Where alpha men just run away from any ideas that challenge their beliefs? Sounds weak mined af
@Dwillztx why would Ethan answer their hypothetical when FnF couldn't answer any of his actual questions
@@cotopaximusicTo remove any shadow of doubt that ethan isn’t disingenuous.
There was malicious intent behind the first hypothetical. They are actually friends with tate it would not be a good look to be involved in a conversation about a serious matter about a friend (wether you like tate or not) I’m sure at some point we’ve all delt with someone trying to pit us against a friend. Would’ve been nice to hear a discussion revolving around actually interesting subjects
The salary explanation was so funny and watching them just go quiet cause they couldn't address the point directly without admitting taint was lying/stealing from his employees.
Taint 🤣
i think they went quiet because they’re scraping money off the top off their employees salary
@@britchin "MYRON, OPEN THE BOOKS!"
They did, they just ran with the "it's Romania tho" defense whixh is weird asf
Anyone who watches that video of Andrew explaining how he manipulates them, brings a person in to lie to them and then steals their money and you don’t completely renounce him then wtf else is there to say to you? You’re sick.
I know right, it’s insane. Especially if ur one of the guys who looks up to him. HE WAS SCAMMING MEN LIKE YOUUUU 😭😭 Lonely, impressionable men. Men down. And he fucking, sociopathically, turned sad men into a system he could milk.
Like wtf. Evil shit. Literal evil, no empathy type shit. He’s a two-faced snake. And yet these same men love him? What the actual fuck.
BuT He ToLd MeN To Go To ThE GyM.
It’s all satirical
@@aslatty9167 You think Andrew sold a satirical course? Do you think he made his money totally legally but then decided to sell a course teaching how to make money illegally? Please, let’s really think this through it’s fascinating.
@@aslatty9167Everyone is watching your mind shield you from the truth in real time.
"Go to Canada , get healthcare, pump the numbers " - will be my new go to insult from now on 😂
Shorten it to "Canadian healthcare yourself"
Can someone explain this joke to me? I'm boomin it up atm
same D:@@shnitzer7151
@@shnitzer7151 Canadian maid program
@@shnitzer7151MAID is a medically assisted death program
They’re so bad faith. I know Myron isn’t this dim, Fresh might be but I know Myron isn’t.
Well the proof is in the pudding my friend. Both of them 😂
I genuinely think Myron is that dim. He just usually surrounds himself with yes men or people who are less intelligent than him, so it’s not as glaringly obvious.
For real I refuse to believe that Myron as an ex fed thinks that lying about tax in the manner that Tate described is not illegal
@@mariek3460 the only reason I think he’s a bit smarter than what he lets on is because when he talks to Destiny he seems much more mature and able to follow arguments. Maybe it’s because he thinks Ethan is also working in bad faith but it seems like he acts this way with everyone but Destiny.
It wasn’t exactly a good faith collaboration. Ethan was farming for gotcha clips. They weren’t discussing idea, Ethan was just playing clips and pressing fnf to defend themselves. I wouldn’t expect anyone to engage in good faith after that because it would just feel like you’re being attacked. I am so far from a fnf supporter but this conversation would’ve been so much better if they were arguing about actual ideas.
Nothing Myron said is consent to lift up someone’s shirt. Going to your house, using mouthwash and kissing are all not consent. If you’re making out w someone and there are clues to both wanting to take it further then describe that… but he didn’t, he only argued all the non consent cues. I’m sorry but that is a massive issue with the mentality of dudes like that. Because when a guy forces himself on a girl they use all those same argument, well you went to his house what’d you think was going to happen. They don’t care about consent at all.
I was disturbed by both Destiny’s stance on it and everything I was seeing in the chat. It’s evidence that it’s not just MAGA dudes who don’t *actually* understand consent - clearly most dudes still just don’t get it. It really made me upset to see honestly:(
Remember when Destiny said Myron is an "adept debater"
When he's debating people who actually do research and bring facts to the table, he is. Unfortunately, what Ethan was doing was not debating, but weaseling around with "gotchas" to try to --- I don't actually know what Ethan was trying to accomplish.
@@Billy-bc8pkThis is just not true. I hate the idol worship dogshit that is so prevalent online. You can be a redpill retard all you want, but defending these people is legitimately just a joke
Destiny is obsessed with finding some figure to get close with so he tries desperately to pump up people in his mind so he’s comfortable interacting with them. He did it with Lav, Brittany, Mr. Girl, etc
I’m gonna edit this to clarify that I think he’s desperate for a friend/companion, not clout
@@Billy-bc8pkacting like 99% of the dipshit women they bring on FnF are intellectual titans 😂😂
@@Billy-bc8pkthe fact you watched this and that was your conclusion just shows how cooked you are bud 😂
Not gonna lie, “You want me to say it again slower” had me laughing out loud.
Whether or not you think Myron lifting that girls top was completely fine or SA or whatever, what it did show is that Myron is a massive dork who no one should take advice from.
Who are you
10 bucks says you haven't slept with more than 5 women in your life. Nobody is taking your advice, clown.
If fresh and fit got any dumber, they would just stop breathing.
Ethan even when his debate skills arent great is just so entertaining with it.
Replace entertaining with cringe and you are spot on.
@@CytherMeh "Replace entertaining with cringe and you are spot on."
Ja, da hast du sehr recht.
He’s better than 99% of destiny viewers
@@CytherMeh he has way more viewers and subs than fresh n fit your daddies
@@warrioremperor6320 i knew my comment would upset someone.
Are you arguing subscribers equal intelligence? Debate skills? Comedy?
Destiny is too soft on FnF, why?
Because he’s friends with Myron. It’s literally so annoying. They’re awful.
@@Tw00d For real, know hes defending fresh with all this new shit. So wierd
Because he's a contrarian and f and f are on their way ouy
It's so annoying when he goes what are you guys talking about I don't defend them at all. They are racist and spineless con artists
Because he is not blinded by everyone else’s opinions on the matter.
How does he know they are innocent? He didnt read anything. These men make themselves more important. We cant say exactly how many people died in WW1 does that mean it didnt happen? They will die alone.
How you know they guilty?
Because you absolutely think they are 😂❤
@@Macheakobecause there is alot of evidence of them being pieces of shit?
Hard concept for you?
@@Macheako Where did you read I think they are guilty? I haven't read the evidence and neither have you, slow one.
@@eigna8914 you think they’re guilty….
Period.
@@Macheakothinking their guilty and not excepting the possibility of being wrong are different things dumbass. PERIOD.
A woodpecker woke me up 2 hours early, thank you for the sleep background
Happy spring 🌱
I had a woodpecker for 10 years on my powerline poles. Not anymore 😊
Myron bringing up his past professional as knowledge is a double edge sword bc like he said they make arrest when its ready to be brought by court in trafficking like the officers THAT ARRESTED TATE how is no one making that connection
I'm so glad someone else caught that
The Romanian authorities and the US authorities are not the same though. The US has extremely stringent standards and thus an incredibly high conviction rate. That could be the case in Romania, but we also don’t know. Myron’s point was that he has the qualifications to look at and interpret evidence brought forth against somebody.
H3, fnf, dgg all have 1 thing on common. Nobody changed their mind, and everyone enjoys their lane. Awsome colab.
Bro, I wouldn't believe Myron if he said the sky was up. He throws around that Fed shit waaay too much, not just about this. Each time that he references it, I grow more and more sure that he in reality probably just had some low level support job, with a tangential claim to Fed-dom at best
They were desperate for anyone who could speak Arabic so yeah he was probably doing lowest level translation.
There are literally cases files of what he did what are you talking about
He doesnt tho you just don't like it because it complicates your personal view about him.
@@JoeMama-pk5xp search up amour fudl cases and you will see
Search up amour fudl cases and you will see case files of what he actually did
Not even 10 minutes in and Destiny's hit the roof... What a place to start a clip. 😂
6 views in 7 minutes, you're cooked mr borelli.
And 5 of those are hasan. Mr. Bortecelo is fucked
@@TheFloridaBro Pretty obviously a joke this isnt even the main channel and what he saw was probably a glitch since youtube is notorious for not reporting accurate views for awhile, usually to confirm its not botted.
@@TheFloridaBroIts a joke. These comments are everywhere and besides that, the viewcount is updated somewhat intermittently.
177k in 17 hours. Seems good.
@@TheDienhart damn you owned me...
Destiny's reaction when H3H3 makes an unfair accusation: This is so stupid, I can't believe he'd say this, this looks so bad.
Destiny's reaction when F&F do some weird ultra-bigotry: Uh yeah? So what? Everyone knows that.
He sucks Myron off all the time
they were both literally treating walter like a actual dog ahaha
'Feds' also includes agents recruited to be my neighbors, mailman, and the teenager that bagged my groceries last week.
And they still can't catch the Amazon package thief!!!
there’s a difference between the definition of a federal agent and the colloquial use of the word “fed” lol. when someone says the feds are on their way, nobody thinks the mailman and the bag boy at the grocery store are on their way😂
ethan made fresh and fit look so dumb and they do this shit for a living ethan is just an entertainer 😭 goddamn that was embarassing for them
The whole thing wasn't a debate. Just a conversation on who can bait each other in a "gotcha."
Well, literally 90% being Ethan no?
@@ANUKO97pretty much, yeah.
I agree Ethan embarrassed himself.
He just looked like a fat flop chatting shit.
Hard to look bad compared to those two
True, but he actually had a good line of questioning against them with the “would you support Tate if he was guilty” hypothetical, Ethan just lacked the knowledge I think the nail them on it. Myron said “I wouldn’t have been friends with Tate if he was that kind of guy” which is clearly a lie. Myron had a literal gang grapist on his podcast and laughed along with them as they told stories about gang graping white women. So Myron posturing saying things like “I don’t associate with people like that” is just a lie. Petty that Ethan didn’t have this information to nail them on it.
Kind of hard to debate if one side is incapable of answering questions?
1:16:15 damn Walter is so dumb thinking h3h3 and Aba and preach are friends. Lol
Just like how Ethan believes Charleston white are friends of fresh and fit?… 😡😡😡😡
@@cephas5053 is that a "what about"ism ? What does that have anything to do at all ? I don't like Ethan much either. But then Walter is just as stupid as Ethan.
@@geniphillHis point was that it's people making assumptions -- and Walter made an assumption like Ethan did. The only people who would know they're not friends are people who assiduously follow both content creators.
@@Billy-bc8pk so Walter is dumb for making an assumption that aba and Ethan are friends even though they have never made any content together and both critize each other. the same way Ethan is dumb for thinking Charleston were friends with fnf because they were invited on a podcast while Charleston laughed and talked about white girl grape, with no pushback. Fnf mocks Ethan for doing horrible research, it's just a horrible contradiction on their end.
@@geniphillI might be a bad person I guess, but if someone just admitted to me that they raped a woman I most likely would laugh also out of shock and nervousness because of how crazy that is to say. Btw he was 12 when that happened, I’m not saying that takes away from the rape, but I definitely think that matters a little
I always know coconuts and toupee were stupid but this was mind blowing 😂. I swear they share a braincell. They argue like 13 year old smartasses.
I never realised just how antisemitic they are either... Wow!
Myron: Anything against the mainstream media is "based"
Mainstream Media: Do not eat your own feces, it is bad for you
Myron: Wow, it's totally based to eat my own shit.
Yes because he LITERALLY meant anything…
WOW! OMG GOTTEM! Myron would totally eat his own feces 🤓🤓 owned epic style!!!
he trowed his own feces to aba and preach, so is not a stretch imagining him eating feces too.@@peepeepoopoo2749
damn too many shit eaters in the comments..
@peepeepoopoo2749 yes that's exactly their logic and the point of this comment lol 🤡
NO WAY h3h3 VS friday night funkin??
I read it as Finaf
Why does Walter talk like he can only think of 3-4 words at a time. I think it’s for emphasis but it has the opposite effect
I'm pretty sure hes had a stutter his whole life and its probably him trying to keep it in check
Walter has always given me the impression that he's the ret@rded little brother of the two.
@@Section8dc God smiting the words Walter is about to speak
@@Section8dc i'm pretty sure he is not capable of thinking that fast, he has coconuts for brains
What an absolute waste of time this was. Myron is just "clever" enough to avoid questions and just tactless enough to make it blatently obvious that he is utterly biased and not as intellectual as he would like to pretend to be, while Ethan is just "clever" enough to ask a few good questions, but not clever enough to ask good follow ups, avoid making dumb arguments, or deal with the silly non-responses. And Fresh... well... he is who he has always been.
Nothing important was said, nothing you didn't already know was uncovered.
Then you wasted even more time commenting gg
@@hollowoak2610 "HAH you wasted time commenting"
- Guy who wasted time commenting on a comment
@@KonoGufo excellent observation
yeah, but im watching not for new facts but for the funnies
@@KonoGufo He never said that HE think this was a waste of time. Maybe he really enjoys commenting.
40:35 "isn't this theft"
"Taxes are boring bro"
😂 🔫
By Myron's logic, if UA-cam pays in $1million, even though he's due $3 million, he should have no problem with this because they still made him rich and he had a mere 9-5 before. Meanwhile, Myron had a meltdown that he got demonitized. How do people still follow this guy?
Ethan is a good interrogative interviewer tbf.
I don’t see how you can watch this and come to that conclusion, he’s objectively bad to the point where he gets rebuttaled multiple times.
ethan only won bc he’s objectively right
Agreed. How do you interview people that continue to pivot, lie and deflect? Smh
@@toyotathiefso he won lmfao
@@TheSkyrimps3 “gets rebuttaled” 😂🫵
The way Tate says "bottom bytch" really makes it hard to take him serious..
🤣😂🤣
a tautological statement is just a statement that is always true, like "murder is bad", "when it rains, it rains", or "Destiny is a woman's name"
You sneaky fuck😂
Destiny running defense for fresh n fit because he knew they were watching
Salty 😂
not even that, he's literally buddies with myron, who is a neo nazi lmao
Idk I saw him calling them out when he disagree and vise versa he seems unbiased@@fibbintiggins2858
@@CaliMex96 lmao the kind of performance that FNF had here wouldn't make anyone salty on behalf of Ethan or Destiny.
Ethan shouldn't have insisted on that SA shit. He's off on that and too biased against them to see it. It just gave them ammo when they were coming off looking real goofy minutes before when they didn't want to admit that Andrew Tate saying he'd pay someone X and then paying Y (much less than X) was lying and illegal.
Ethan not even trying hard just exposed how fragile and cowardly these 2 are
Had no idea how anti-Semitic and just generally scummy these people were. Also, shockingly unintelligent. To get destroyed by Ethan is pretty embarrassing.
Not an Ethan fan….but he absolutely destroyed Myron and Walter.
He does debate like a child. This was like watching a group of kids fight on a playground
@@buttermilk5364well fresh and fit were acting like children
@@Car-qu2bc they literally all were.
@@buttermilk5364 Explain how Ethan was acting like a child
@@at5203 Did we watch the same debate? It was all bad faith on both sides. With petty insults mixed in.
10:22 Myron not answering the hypothetical yet forces women on his pod to answer hypotheticals.
Destiny is wrong on the Myron encounter, Ethan is also using the wrong phrase, sexual assault instead is sexual harassment but lifting up someones shirt and making fun of there body parts is sexual harassment and i doubt that was a consensual action.
Yeah but Destiny did the same thing when he was drunk once so he can’t as anything he says about Myron applies to him
My issue is Sexual Harassment is the making of unwelcome or inappropriate sexual remarks or physical advances. The physical advances is out the window because it’s clear as day that she consented and removed consent later on and then Myron let her go. Which is the right thing to do. But the other is weird. She was consenting to it and he made a sexual remark about her body. A sexual remark could be good or bad. If she consented to them possibly having sex and allowed him to raise her shirt, how could the comment be unwelcome? That would mean I could be in the middle of having sex and say “your pussy taste good” and then she could remove consent right then and there and then that would be considered sexual harassment? So I feel like what people are upset about is that the comment was rude and not that it wasn’t consensual. Cause then so many men could be put up with sexual Harassment because they made some type of sexual remark whether good or bad during sex and she just takes away consent right away. If he said her titties was nice looking would people say the same thing?
@@jalenwalker8790No, because harassing your sexual partner during a progressive sexual advancement in the sexual encounter is counter intuitive to the act your both consenting too.
If were having sex, it's assumed we are both most going to do and say things that accentuate the sexual experience. Making unwelcome comments about ones body is not consensual by definition of it being unwelcome/unwanted and saying "your pussy tastes good" isn't unwelcome it's most likely encouraged because it's generally welcomed to accentuate the sexual experiences people have.
You might be looking too deep into this.
@mr-h6xIt is by definition, Sexual Harassment.
"Sexual harassment refers to any unwelcome behavior of a sexual nature that creates a hostile, intimidating, or offensive environment. This can include comments, gestures, or actions that belittle, demean, or objectify a person based on their body or sexuality."
If those comments by Myron were made without consent and are unwelcome, they directly contributed to a harmful or harassing environment for the partner.
@mr-h6xIt would depend on the context of the relationship your in and alot of other factors like communication level and comfort with that person. This is assuming you have a known relationship with this person, Myron did not.
Why would you ever need to make derogatory comments about your partner? Why say her body looks weird, in what situation, aside from casual banter, would this be an okay thing to do? This is besides the point as Myron wasn't even in a relationship with this person it was a booty call/one nighter which makes it even worse as the chances for unwelcome comments to increase drastically.
"by your logic, if I'm in a heated debate and I call you stupid, I'm harassing you. "
This isn't even a sexual harassment example but i'll bite. If you continued to use derogatory comments about my body during a heated flat earth debate constantly over and over, it would be harassment, by every universally accepted definition, we also entered a mutually consenting place were we agreed to be heated and debate ideas.
Harassment is not just defined by how many times someone is getting harrassed it's determined by the act itself. If you started berating me and scolding me with personal attacks that would be considered a form of harrasment as that behavior is unwanted, intimidating, hostile, or offensive.
If you have an issue with sexual harrasment as a term you can take it up with the people who coined it. I'm merely calling a spade a spade.
Tiny is pumped today. Fired a bunch of guns with the Texans and now he's going all Falling Down.
This video made me lose some respect for destiny for having respect for Myron
Why?
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@@gjjijji hm it could be because Myron's a neo nazi. But idk that's not a big deal right?
@@gjjijjithis was an extremely weak showing for fnf and destiny let them slide. That’s why
@@JebSpice what you mean Destiny let FnF slide
Destiny, you simp so damn hard for Fresh N’fit.
He doesn’t, Ethan was just bad faith and childish throughout this debate
Myron's experience in FBI is irrelevant, Tate has cases in Romania and UK, not in US.
Which is super funny because he wields his FBI experience but when Tate is on camera saying he runs his business fraudulently, committing theft of his employees, they all of a sudden run to the “it’s Romania bro.” Like why can’t the same be said about his knowledge in the US versus Romania.
@@jdjenk04 Did he say that he did it in that clip or was he only telling others to do it?
@@MissingYouser tate said that he did it
This could have darker connotations.
Helping people how to get off crimes or ways to plausible deniability.
Not true at all. If you have knowledge of how these cases are prosecuted, why not give a take? Sure, they're different countries but they're similar enough that it's relevant
When Myron is going on all about how feds don’t indict until they’re ready for trial, what’s the point? That’s exactly what happened in this case too. I just don’t get what point he thinks he’s making. Seems Ethan got just a bit tripped up on that part but it wasn’t material to the argument.
Facts.
Well the case isn’t in America so it’s not the same as UK which is takes women’s word at face value more than America does. What he’s saying is that he has experience in bringing evidence to cases such as this so he knows the process that goes along with it and the burden of proof.
@@jalenwalker8790 Absolute nonsense. The UK has a terrible record for prosecuting grape cases. When Andrew was in UK they searched his house and confiscated his electronics and according to him were about to charge him based on the findings, not based on anyone’s accusation alone, but he fled to Romania. That’s where he’s currently inducted based on several months of investigation and a mountain of evidence. The civil suit in UK isn’t even based only on accusations but on Andrew’s own words. Literally nothing Myron said had anything to do with Andrew Tate’s cases. When you go around acting like there’s no evidence and the world is against him you just sound like a cult.
Destiny really becoming an unhinged weirdo
His takes on the SA thing were disturbing and disappointing…
That rant about conservatives at the start was legendary lol
Destiny may shit on me as a socialist all the time, but I understand he's still a good enough liberal & our mutual hatred of Trumpers & their BS makes us the predator arm meme
Ethan Klein just spat on the corpse of the RedPill 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bro couldn’t back up a single claim of his💀. He was calling Tate a trafficker for years and folds with a second of pushback. He completely walked back his rhetoric he’s been pushing for uears
How? It doesn’t seem like this conversation went anywhere in actuality
@@user-jm9gj9ph6e He literally showed videos and photos proving Fresh and Fit wrong and made them run away from answering questions constantly. What are you talking about? 😂😂
@@Girth_BrooksC3 Watch it again then 😂😂😂😂🤦🏽
@@DaDa-rg6ts there was no solid evidence in any of that shit and Ethan acted like a child throughout the video. Are you that dense?
kinda weird to see destiny agree with fresh and fit when it comes to consent
you can tell hes done somewhat of the same thing
Two grown men in their mid 30's who haven't emotionally matured since 9th grade. That's what Myron and Walter are. Ethan treated them as sport and as if he has no respect for them whatsoever.
He did a bad job then lol
@@natediaz1863 It was an awful performance by everyone. No one did a good job.
@@nykia31 I think FnF destroyed Ethan on what they COULD talk about.
@@natediaz1863They really didn't. Ethan did horrible, but he still beat them since he was objectively correct on plenty of topics, FNF were just acting like 9th graders and were being bad faith the entire time.
@@paulcashew5795 objectively correct about what? The SA allegations? ✡️s? No lol
Fresh and fit aren’t failing the meme hypothetical test. They aren’t answering because even if he is found guilty, they will find a way to say that the evidence is false or something along those lines, so regardless of evidence they’re going to back their dude.
I agree they would do that, but i think that makes them not answering the question even more retarded. Because if you know you are just going to call what ever evidence comes out bullshit you shouldnt be worried about it coming out
Destiny performing incredibly as Myron’s PR manager
“Do you think we breathe oxygen?”
Fresh and fit: “what do you think”
Bruh this was such a dumb debate it might actually have given me a form of cancer.. Ethan should have really prepared better for this holy fuck..
The correct answer is "I breathe aqueous vapor" because honestly I hate when people ask dumb questions to try and get a gotcha.
@@urstaxfetish1206asking a straightforward question is not a gotcha question lmaoo your brain has been poisoned
34:15 I think the easier argument against Tate would be the actual tax evasion. He outlines accepting payment in bitcoin to mask his income to avoid paying taxes.
I think the H3H3 vs F&F debate was really silly. Ethan was trying to debate the way you do but he wasn’t that good at it. As expected Myron and Walter avoided answering questions about Tate.
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Oh but when Hasan does the same thing with his tankie beliefs, Destiny has no problem shitting on him for that in multiple videos
Absolutelly not carying water for FnF lol...
Didn't Destiny also start this video with lamenting conservatives who never honestly say what they think. He said he missed the Nazis that honestly state their opinions. These fnf guys are nazi level antisemitic but too cowardly to own that.
“How did he get alcohol underage without adults?” Destiny’s never heard of a fake id???
WALTER : We let out guest talk in this podcast we just kick out women, not rapest get it together ethan 😂
W ethan redemption arc
Gonna change his name to Capcom soon lol
Ethan blew his lead so hard with the Fed argument...Jesus.
I say I'm going to give you two apples. I give you one apple and say the other got stolen, even though I still have it. Did I lie?
"... Uh...well the thing is...y'know stuff is... well..."
Bro, if you work for Fresh and Fit, call the Department of Labor immediately.
"Mony monday" is literaly 90% scammers and the rest advice is :
"Invest bro"
"Buy property bro"
"Dont buy 5000 dollar sneakers bro"
Good one Fresh
But they SAVING lives tho
Man those Fraud & Fraud closes are beyond fake
Yeah all their advice skips to the part where you somehow have a large amount of capital and can be an entrepreneur or property investor. But they never talk about how to get from 0 to somewhere lol
I never really watched Fresh and Fit because it seemed like a one trick pony devoted to dunking on women, but I had no idea about all of this stuff. Even though I don't like the gatcha format, I'm glad Ethan made this video.
Lol, Destiny was Ethan's #1 cheerleader when he was roasting Justpearlythings. Why does he simp so hard for Myron?
I think he said because at some level he respects Myron.
But also , he literally said Myron was the new head of the Red Pill and that was the same day they did the racist stream toward Aba and Preach
How dare he treat different things differently…
he also said if anyone could lose a debate to pearl he worried it would be ethan lolol. not to mention, it is incredibly easy to “win” a debate against someone whose only responses to rebuttals are “mmhm” and “it’s just what i’ve seen”, etc…not that fresh n fit did very well in this case either lol.
"With a crystal ball, Walter?" had the same energy as "Sell their houses to who, Ben? Aquaman?".
01:22:40 | Myron: _"I make fun of everybody [...] I hate everyone equally."_
Great defense.
Regarding the 19yro caller, I see a lot of comments and youtubers disparaging her with the reasoning that she shouldn't have been in the apartment alone with Myron, but that assumes an untrue context. The issue is that Myron and Walter already planned on splitting them up when getting something to eat. On the back way to his studio apartment, Myron said that they were going to meet up with her friend and Walter again, and that he just needed to get something from his apartment, which was probably bs, so she's there under a false assumption that he's just getting something. She also pushed him off the first time he jumped on her, tells her to use mouthwash for alcohol breath (which conveniently is in his en-suite) then he acts innocent before jumping on her again, after she had already pushed him off. Remember she's 19 and inexperienced, which is probably his type, and he is a self proclaimed "professional womanizer".
I'd say the only fault on her, is that she didn't think that Myron and Walter were only interested in getting them (her and her friend) in bed, and would do creepy things for that goal. Again she's 19 and inexperienced, and they're super high body count guys.
"I'd say the only fault on her, is that she didn't think that Myron and Walter were only interested in getting them (her and her friend) in bed, and would do creepy things for that goal."
The unfortunate reality is that even if she had made that assumption, she'd get lambasted for that, too. When you're a woman in that situation, you're either a c*nt for "leading men on," or you're a c*nt for assuming a man is just looking to get in your pants. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
If only Ethan approached the situation the way you did… maybe he wouldn’t have looked like he was reaching
Walter sleeping with 1000 plus women is insane. Like is it even possible to know 1000 people.
DGG chat is honestly so funny. I don’t why but watching these debates along with the chat always gives me some great laughs
we starting this out unhinged af i love it
42:18 bro I died at this moment 😂😂
Why they glazing Andrew so hard they can’t answer The question about the legality
They have a saying in law that a “grand jury will indict a ham sandwich”
ethan is actually good at catching guests in traps and knowing when to drop a question
Oh boy I can’t wait to listen to my favorite streamer, Mr. Burcholli, talk about the Israel-Palestine conflict.