Why Are The Most Expensive Transfers Always Failures?
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- Whether it be Eden Hazard joining Real Madrid, Philippe Coutinho's transfer to Barcelona, or Harry Maguire signing for Manchester United, there has been a spate of hugely expensive transfers that have gone very badly in recent years - in the Premier League and beyond.
In this video, HITC Sevens investigates why that is the case, and specifically why it has become more common within the world of football in recent years. - Спорт
It's unfair to say Maguires been a failure. He's been great for Liverpool, City, Everton and most teams in the Prem.
Yessir
McGuire is the greatest goal scorers of all teams
And great for England too. In Man U he's struggling in a dysfunctional team with erratic fellow defenders and little protection from an attack-minded midfield.
Il u😢y
Maguire is a scapegoat at United. That team has a lot of problems and one of them isn't Maguire, he plays for the shirt.
The problems weren't players like Di Maria, Memphis or Pogba either (notice they were all fine outside of United). The problem was those players were signed to fix a problem that wasn't there - Manchester United didn't need a world class signing, they needed stability and a respect for the shirt again. Which was more of a backroom issue at United than a player one. Ole was hung out to dry. Although two of them were definitely CR7 and Falcao. The club is just a shitshow.
Less than a minute and we got a Hull City reference for the second straight video. Alfie is not wasting time anymore. He knows why we're here
Pretty much
Criticism of harry maguire?🙃
Ha ha ha
He could only keep up the façade for so long.
For Zidane. He won the Champions League when Madrid had a plan.
When Real sold Makelele to sign Beckham, no matter how good Zidane can perform, the team is unbalanced and a mess.
Zizu even said it himself
Beckham however, being the professional that he is, worked his ass off and developed himself into a hardworking/great passing/tactically aware CM, under Capello and they won the league, even Capello was impressed with that, as he was not in his initial plans.
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Are you serious? Beckham didn't start half the games in the League.
The reason they won was Van Nistelrooy and Raul's great goalscoring season.
They only won it with 76 points, if Barcelona didn't have a dreadful season, they would have lose it. It was an one horse race and they nearly failed as Barcelona caught up with the signing of an actual center midfielder, Davies.
The only thing Beckham had for him during that period was his image and his crosses.
@@WERTYUIO821 He worked his way into Capello's plans 2nd half of the season, I remember Madrid even trying to undo his transfer to LA Galaxy. Don't let your bias against Beckham blind you to reality. He even scored when Capello allowed him to rejoin the team, against Mallorca.
@@Mad_Intalect
He scored once, he was also a mess in the last game of the season and the man that substituted him enter and scored twice to get the man upside down and win Real the game and the League(Reyes if I recall correctly)
Beckham was a big merchandise. That is why Real wanted to keep him as money talk more than football.
Capello was also gone soon enough so that is not much either.
I have no bias for Beckham, I don't support any English team to have a bias.
Monopolisation of trophies has become a bigger thing in the modern game. Back around the 2000s, Deportivo won la Liga with 69 points, Valencia won it twice, Porto won the Champions League. The top teams weren’t as dominant then as they are now.
The jeopardy is now being taken out of football. There is no threat that Man City etc. will not qualify for the Champions League or finish in top three of EPL. When global corporations and countries start investing in football they will change the rules to make sure the cash keeps flowing in.
How long before fans start to get bored of football as competition winners are known at the start of a season before a ball is even kicked.
Leicester won the EPL not too long ago Mate
@@infamouscfc793 the exception that proves the rule
Times change buddy
To be fair even in the 2000s, teams like Porto winning the champions league was a rare occurrence. Back then you would expect the Man utd's, bayern's, madrid's, milan's to win the ucl. Porto winning it was considered a big surprise
"it was a case of watching them, seeing they were completely brilliant, and... Well that was about it" - Alfie (2022)
The perfect quote to sum up stat obsession #alfieforfifapresident
That's true, but Messi and Ronaldo managed to be impressive to watch, and have insane stats, just when stats began to be a big concern for everybody.
@@5minutemovies977 In my opinion, Ronaldo stopped being brilliant to watch post his unfortunate knee-injury with some obvious exceptions. In fact, his decline and transition into a pure 9 in his last years at Madrid was evidenced by how the Bernabeu fans kept booing him.
@@DBrealmadrid9606 I agree, except I forget (if I ever knew) that he had a knee injury.
I didn't notice that and the booing and such because I don't watch Real much.
My favourite Ronaldo was the fast, dribbling, long ranger from Manchester, and even then, he was irritating to me because of how arrogant he was.
The reason why Liverpool have such successful recruitment is possibly ironic given what you said about statistics - they use analysis to identify players who represent value. for money and will fit the system.
That's how Klopp operated at Mainz and then Dortmund. Find players that fit the system regardless of reputation.
They only sign asthmatics. Narrows the transfer targets
@@christopherr3676 maybe other clubs should start signing asthmatics then if it's that simple
@@jackrichardson4089 makes you wonder tho 🤔 . Very strange , cough cough caffeine cycling cough
*Klopps secret: find talented players that are dark/brown they tend to be warriors. Think about it, look at the liverpool squad before and after*
Arteta's 2 8th placed finishes followed by a 5th place finish suggests that there is at least one set of owners with a degree of patience. Much to the chagrin of many of their fans.
Yup, and everyone likes to point at the first 8th place as being Arteta's fault, but he had half a season and took over a team in crisis and then covid hit.
I do wish arsenal fans had more perspective, sacking Arteta doesn't guarantee success
they didnt seem 2 hv the same set of patience w emery. the truth of it is that once emery's sack caused controversy and his success elsewhere triggered the board that if arteta didnt succeed theyd look bad. so instead they injected a large sum of money into the club, add 2 the fact that leicester, united, west ham fell off, a higher place finish was inevitable. i dont think u wouldve said artetas doing a good job, last season
@@mosalahmosalahrunningdownt5579 Emery and Arteta are two different examples. The players had clearly given up on Emery, they bottled 4th despite needing 6 points from 5 games and Auba and Laca both having their best Arsenal seasons. They also went on to lose the UEL final 4-1 despite being 0-0 at half time. They started his second season poorly and he was making tactical decisions that were crazy like playing Torreira as a no.10. They spent money in Emerys first transfer window and in his second summer. They just didn't give Emery the players he wanted in his second summer and Raul Sanelli lost his job by the next summer due to how badly the Pepe deal went. Arteta has had to completely rejuvenate the squad, get rid of players from both of the previous two managers including 2 superstars whose form practically fell off a cliff after signing big boy contracts for 300k a week. He's started again with a squad of young players attempting to make the UCL for the first time rather than a squad of overpaid mercenaries happy to slum in the UEL. These guys lost out by a single point with three strikers scoring a total of 13 goals. Emerys team had Auba in golden Boot form but was still conceding 22 shots at home at Watford. Emery is an excellent manager, but he exceeds with mid level Spanish teams that he can elevate beyond their resources. Both the massive clubs he's managed he failed to make the grade. At PSG he fell to the Remontada after a 4 nil first leg and with Arsenal he failed to get us back into the UCL, losing his only UEL final
I must say Paul Pogba has been a huge disappointment at Man Utd considering the huge transfer fee they signed him from Juventus he plays excellent for Frsnce but those type of performances for Man United have always been few and far between he's never looked a good fit for the club at all.
Wait what first time seeing pep busting cigar
and juventus about to get him free for a second time lmao
I feel a Reason pogba does so well for France is because he has a reliable CDM next to him. At Juve it was Vidal, France it’s Kante. Why? Because pogba’s defensive awareness is non existent. With players like Kante and Vidal doing the defensive work, Paul can stay up and do his thing
At United he has mctominay. A very mediocre player. In the trio of Matic abs herrera he could show some glimpses of his quality
After Ander left and Matic’s legs went, no more defensive safety blanket. Paul has been a huge disappointment after all the promise, but United’s biggest crime was not signing a quality CDM
@@thebigquack6945 Pogba really shined in Oles interim period with Herrera and Matic. I was in shock when Herrera left, no new cdm, and the change away from 4-3-3. Pogba suffered the most from that shift.
It's pretty obvious to anyone with eyes that Pogba doesn't have the positional awareness to play as a part of a midfield 2, as a three he's wasted too because of that and the fact he offers nothing defensively either, and anyone who watched Juve would have seen him being so good because he's played at a no.8 pushed up the pitch, given a free role and allowed to shirk defensive responsibility, just needed to shuffle back into a position to fill a space and that's it. He's like Steven Gerrard only a lot worse in a positional sense, he going to leave United, end up somewhere that plays him as I stated above again and end up world class again, because there is a world class player in there if you know how to use him. Don't get me wrong, he's never playing under Klopp or Pep, but there are negative managers out there, like Conte, who can get the best out of him simply because their tactics are so cowardly, just let Pogba do his thing with the strikers while you cram the other 8 inside your final 3rd with absolutely no ambition, classic Conte theft tactics, make sure you don't lose first and foremost so you can get lauded as a genius if you nick a win with 28% possession and 2 shots on goal, even though that's not genius it's cowardly. How Spurs and Juve fans could stomach winning 1-0 at home to the worst sides in the league is beyond me, especially when you consider the attacking talent he had at both clubs.
Shearer was never a flop.
Ronaldo excelled at Inter, and Real.
Figo, Zidane.
VVD was worlds most expensive defender for a bit, as was Alisson the most expensive GK. Neither are flops.
Some clubs scout better, buy for their team ethos better, and/or only spend big on proven talent.
It's more over the last 5 years. Dembele coutinho pogba maguire kepa hazard griezman felix have all been disasters
Did you just read the title and not watch the video?
@@TheMightofDab 100% correct.
The latest big money moves are all very easy to see why they failed.
Though, I did also point out that VVD and Alisson, 2 recent big transfers, were not failures.
My point was, through the decades, there have been world record transfers, or country specific records, that have all gone very well.
Which is why I finished with, scouting, conection of player to club philosophy, tried and tested, have all played a part in the successful transfers vs the unsuccessful ones.
@@elliotcoffman2643 Felix is harsh, he played well once injury free, just had a lot of trouble with injuries
@@maciejbala477 Maguire was way too expensive but he made United’s defense very good for 2 years and this is coming from a city fan
You've explained the insanity and irrationality surrounding football player transfers very well in this video.
Zidane and Ronaldo won the WC, I think national team performance was probably seen at a higher degree at the time, as a bit less football was on TV and the WC, Euros had bigger impact than now maybe.
Both also scored braces in the finals. It wasn't just a case of watching them like Alfie says.
Yeah performing well and winning the champions league or World Cup will always be on top of everything else. In England it’s like we only focus on performance in the prem but everyone else in the World sees them two competitions as the ones to perform in to get real galactico type status
agreed. I think now that football has been globalized to a higher degree and clubs can make super squads more easily, national team performance isn't as valued, and rightly so. It's much more interesting to watch a squad that has been training together for seasons on end than 11 players who played a handful of games and barely know the manager's game plan
Neymar: *leaves Barcelona to escape from becoming the shadow of Messi
Messi: *Follows Neymar like a shadow.
It was Neymar who convinced Messi to come to PSG. It was also Neymar who wanted to go back to Barcelona to play with Messi again a couple seasons ago.
@@DaybreakPT no it was Barcelona 's finance that made Messi leave Barcelona. Neymar has nothing to do with it. You really think Messi can't think for himself and need convincing? No. He is his own man.
@@benedictjajo No bro you are not understanding. Messi could’ve gone to literally any club he chose PSG because of Neymar
@@jessedaniels4494 actually no, the only club that could afford him at the time was City and PSG and he went to PSG because PSG was the only club that made an offer to him.
I'd not say that Antoine Griezmann was an absolute flop.
Imo this transfer didn't made sense from a beginning. There wasn't position for him on the pitch. They expect from their wingers to make dribllings. The Frenchman just doesn't do it at all, not because he isn't able to dribble, but because that's not what he played for Atletico nor France. And most importantly - in the position where he would feel best - was Messi. It couldn't success.
In Barcelona he maybe scored max 60% of him. The mere fact that he did not score so few goals, because he was probably the second best scorer in the club in the 2019/20 season is kinda shock.
Anyway, he wasn't worth it that money, but rather on level of Grealish (at least for now), not Coutinho.
It never made sense why Barca signed players like Coutinho and Greizman when they would not be able to play in the positions they found success at their previous clubs and the positions they were good at
Who is on the level of Grealish or Coutinho
He's not a flop, his 2nd season was good, a 7/10 overall but he didn't meet the high expectations put on him.
Also AG7 isn't on Grealish's level because Jack isn't world-class like Grizou btw.
Your English is excellent.
Griezmann has been by far the best signing out of that Barcelona 100m+ trio. All things considered he was pretty good for Barcelona, especially in his second season where he was key to their Copa del Rey win and title challenge with 33 goal contributions (more than in his last season at Atlético). On top of his output he always brought immense defensive work rate, very valuable when your strike partner is Messi, and was always available. He was shuffled around different positions within different systems as Barcelona went through three managers during his stay, and was never fully accommodated in favour of Messi and Suárez, but still managed to perform to a decent level and remained a starter throughout. Still an awful transfer given how much they paid for him in transfer fee and especially wages, but they are probably recouping more for him than for Coutinho and Dembélé, who might still leave for nothing, and he cost slightly less than they did in the first place. Coutinho was an unmitigated disaster outside of his first six months, he struggled to perform and to stay fit and was desperately flogged off to Bayern on a loan where he embarrassed Barca in the Champions League. Dembélé has performed much better, but even when fit has spent a lot of time on the bench. Out of all three, Griezmann cost the least, will probably get them the most money back and contributed the most on the pitch.
Loved the video! It would be interesting if you explained the causes behind the inflated value of singings in the PL since it's clear for most of us that these prices are far out of mark. A player like Jack Grealish for example is not worth 100 mil right now. He could be worth 100 mil but most of his market value comes from an expectation created by the media but not from reality. Same can be said about Eden Hazard or other transfers that just didn't came to fruition.
There is a premium on being a player who counts as "homegrown" as there is a limit on the numbers in a. PL squad who are not. Of the maximum 25 man squad only 17 at most can be "not homegrown". This means the homegrown status has a value. Homegrown does not mean British but a player who played for an FA-affiliated club for three years before they were 21. So taking Liverpool players as an example as I know about them better than other clubs, Kelleher who is Irish is homegrown as he signed up at the LFC academy as a youngster but Robertson counts as not homegrown as he played for Scottish teams as a young man.
Inflated values almost entirely traces back to the Neymar PSG transfer, which then caused a chain reaction of ‘if this player was bought for x amount, this player must be worth x amount’.
I know it’s a very simple and anti-climatic answer, but it is what it is.
Neymar 200 mill
He also had a release cause and city paid it to avoid protracted, hopeless negotiations
Grealish is a weird one as I don't think Villa sell at £100m, and City paid it as there would be no need to negotiate, so without a release fee he is neither bought nor sold for £100m.
PSG is the very definition of mercenary a team full of stars but not a team full of players.
It is pretty hilarious that PSG aren't in the Champions League final... again.
I know that obviously you can't make all your videos this detailed and long, nor should you, but it legitimately amazes me how much quality you put into your videos on average. Your investigative skills are incredible and I certainly appreciate your sense of humor too.
Excellent work as always. Please keep it up!
Cristiano to Madrid is the greatest signing of all time and was the record in 2009.
This is an incredibly interesting discussion video. The examples brought up and the comparisions between major signings of the past and now highlights a very interesting point and i enjoyed watching it. Keep it going HITC
Maybe because of pressure to live up to the transfer fee I would've thought
It’s only been a recent issue. Bale did live up to his fee, Ronaldo also did, as well as Suarez or Neymar at Barcelona. It’s a problem that’s happened since around 2016. From Pogba to present almost
@@FLZ_FCB It mostly has to do with the manager, the position they play in, talent surrounding them, outside factors, motivation..e.t.c, pretty weird tho.
@@Leonessi10 so basically blame everything except for the player?
@@JonasRodgers Not my point, just naming other factors, plus isn't outside factors and lack of motivation part of the players problem? These expensive players are worldclass, they don't just flop cos they're shit, I'm not saying it isn't their fault, I'm just mentioning other contributing to the cause.
Interesting
TBH, Griezmann wasn't a disaster in Barcelona, his performance just wasn't worth the transfer fee
Loved this anaylsis keep up the good work 👍
Especially loved the part were in today's world, footballers are judged on stats n not on their actuall football ability
Alfie:some of you may be old enough to recall when florentino Pérez was first elected Real Madrid president in the year 2000.
Me who was 16 that year: thanks now I feel old af. But great video as always my man.
2000 was only 10 years ago wasn't it.....
@@benjammin9471 you know I went back and ran the numbers and it turns out you're right thanks, it's good to know that I'm younger than I thought.
Day 6 - The Fall and Rise of FK Velež Mostar
From a Club that has beaten Borussia Dortmund, Twente, Derby County and many others to a club that was forced from their own stadium, reduced to nothing during the Bosnian War, becoming a mediocre top-level team in the 00s to nearly being forced into folding in 2016 to its amazing rise back to the top-level football which culminated in return to Europe after 33 years which has seen elimination of Coleraine before a suprising win over AEK Athens before exiting 3rd Round against Elfsborg IF and recently continuing in the Cup win this season which has ensured another European summer next season
Been questioning this for a long time aswell, really interesting fact, I had the same conclusion as you a couple of years back.
how about you make a video on 7 clubs that overcompensated for a departure of oneof their players. i.e spurs with bale, villa with grealish
I've never been this early to one of your videos so this is cool! I would love to see a what on earth is going on video of Real Zaragoza or 1860 Munich if you were interested in making one!
The timing of the photo of the Pope is perfect lol
Expensive transfers come with lot of expectations,
CR7 to Madrid and to Juve perhaps is one of the transfer that met and exceeded the expectation, but other recent expensive transfers have not lived up to the hype
Pogba, Neymar, Mcguire, Dembele, Coutinho, Hazard. BALE did perform well and he did deliver the Champions league with his two goals against Liverpool in the final, but Bale did not seem to be that committed to REAL Madrid as other players at Madrid, Maybe Bales attitude seems so, but he is 100% committed to performance.
This was excellently explained and described
It would be interesting to hear your opinion on which (if any) larger clubs could not survive a relegation or major fall from success. Love your videos!
I love your content. Keep them coming
Personally, I don't think he's a bad player, but I feel Jack Grealish maybe should have done more this season since he was 100 million instead if having the same amount of goals and assists as Joel Matip and not really impressing. Maybe he needs time, but for now he has been a bit of a let down for city
Good player but not worth that money in a million years
They paid 100 million pounds for nice legs and hairband.
I have to say that the content of this channel continues to push the boundaries of football analysis and what I thought was possible to achieve.
There better be Hull City talk in this video
High expectation = higher demand, therefore what a player did for a club even if its better than average is negated by the price tag's expectations.
Thing is right objectively speaking that still doesn't justify the move. Hazard has been by far worse than someone like rodrygo
When Ronaldo signed for Real in 2009, they won no ECLs for nearly 5 years, After Bale joined in 2013 they won 4 ECLs in the next 5 years.
Bale better than Ronaldo
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You're one of the first people on UA-cam I've come across who correctly used the term West Asia, instead of Middle East. Good job Alfie!
Id also note that the big rich teams like PSG, madrid, barca arent really buying a player to win them trophies or perfrom well. They want their marketability and they get there money back that way. You did touch on this but it has gone on for years, especially with madrids galacticos era, it was only the names and pretty faces they cared about.
Potentially the most rambling and best intro ever "Surely not Alfie" hahahaha 😂
U started with a hull city reference i bloody knew it 😂
I think it's also notable that with some of the deals it was down to release clause fees and not the player's perceived value on the market. for example, Kepa wouldn't have the expectations of the most expensive keeper in history if he'd gone for around 50m
Great video, as usual. A bit of forgotten context from Neymar's signing was that, besides the politics you just mentioned, Barcelona had also been trying to tempt Verratti into declaring himself in rebellion to force a move to them, with Barcelona's president Bartomeu even declaring PSG "a small team." Way to poke a wasp's nest, huh?
Man. That intro was the entire video. Kudos to you
I think you could split the ‘Failures’ into ‘Great players who didn’t live up to expectations’ and ‘Disasters’
Some examples of the first category for me would be:
Neymar
Mbappe
Grealish
Disasters would be:
Maguire
Coutinho
Hazard
Pogba
Edit: removed Lukaku to Inter from first category.
Lukaku did great at Inter and they sold him for more than they bought him for
Also I'd put Pogba into the first category
I wouldn't say Pogba has been a complete disaster
@@ernestodeh1409 you’re right about Lukaku. for some reason I forgot that Inter won the scudetto last season. I’ll remove him from the post
With Pogba. I put him in the second category because while he is immense for France over his 6 years at Man Utd he has had more bad performances than good IMO.
Lukaku absolutely lived up to expectations at Inter, if not exceeded them. He scored loads of goals both in Serie A and Europe, he formed a terrific partnership with Lautaro Martínez and helped Inter win their first scudetto for a decade. What more could he have done?
@@andrew7taylor agreed. Lukaku and Martinez was a great partnership. I originally put him in first category because I thought Inter didn’t win anything with him. For some reason I completely missed that Inter won the scudetto in 2021… should think more before I posted
14:36 I can't call it an emergency transfer deal, because they lost a midfielder for a striker. It's clear that without Pogba, Juventus wouldn't have been able to afford his buyout clause, but they are two players in different positions.
I think another thing that has changed people's perception has been their ability to not watch players, and therefore kind of being able to claim naivety to their brilliance. With access to essentially all the games in most of Europe's top leagues throughout the season, people can choose watch or not watch what ever they want. They're not limited to what's on TV like it used to be where you would be forced to watch team x vs. team y if you wanted to watch any foot ball at all. Where you would see lots of the top signings a handful of times throughout the season, and it became hard to label them failures after seeing them play even often just a handful of times.
Totally true by you regarding this topic indeed in this world and other planets,good friend Alfie!!!:-D
21:11 It was at this moment, Alfie knew, he created a monster
If Firmino played as he did during his Liverpool-era in the 90's or mid 2000's, we'd remember him as a generational talent. The man was almost as important defensively as he was offensively, he had brilliant link-up play, a staggering amount of flair, ungodly amounts of stamina, 100% selfless, and all in all he had 111 goals and 72 assist in 362 games. Liverpool legend ❤
Day 32: Considering that the last player who played in the miracle of Bern died about 6 months ago, I would really like to see a video about the whole story between Germany and Hungary, especially because it meant so much to at least the German population
This video got me thinking about goalscoring, thinking a list of superb non goal scoring strikers might be a good video? Looking at the likes of Firmino, Sheringham, Guti etc
Video idea.. look into why so many former serie A clubs have folded not so long after competing in top flight... Messina, Siena, Catania, Palermo, Reggina for example
IMO, if you pay over 50M for a player you would expect them to be able to adapt to whatever team they join fairly well and, maybe not have astronomical impact, contribute to the success of the team. But the market inflates the prices of lots of players and adds stupid amounts of pressure on players.
I forget which podcast I was listening to that described some of these transfer fees as having “The Zaha tax” or something to that affect. When a specific player is important to their club than they would be to whatever club wants to sign them and thus their value is insanely inflated. So a player that is really worth about 20M costs 50M to sign.
Kane is a good example of this. He is worth 150M to Spurs bc he is their star player, a leader in the squad and (until this season) their top scorer (also Levy is a notoriously tough negotiator). But his actual value is probably 80-100M
There’s also a league tax if the player is moving within the same league. Which is probably one reason why Maguire, who at the time might have been worth 30-40M, ended up costing United 80M (as he was one of Leicester’s best players, English and moving within the Prem)
Alfie, we need a video on that Gareth Bale point!
Good one Alfie👍🏻✊🖖
Also, player are more aware than ever to this criticism and have more difficulty escaping it with the prevalence of social media. In the past Zidane or Ronaldo could turn off the TV or not read a newspaper and be done with it, but with a phone in hand almost 24/7 players nowdays really struggle to ignore and get over that criticism. Also the media has become more "violent" and exaggerated for clickbait, like a vicious cycle of creating hype and then destroying these players reputations.
Please do 7 best footballers not signed by their managers/coaches e.g messi to psg
The reason for this is because of the high inflation of money in the football world, certain teams, players and agents have started exploiting transfers for their own profit, thus the majority of recent high money transfers have been failures, because those players aren't worth even close to what they have been sold for and once they got their big paycheck, they don't even bother playing to their actual value, so it turns out even worse.
this explain to harry maguire
Psg are in Paris, a city where the capital of France whom are currently the rotating current heads of the eu . Ramos and Messi as Thiago Silva proved will age well and do some big things in ligue 1 , I’m sure French fans are really loving the team
Simple answer: Higher price, higher expectations. You may perform mostly well, but if you cost a lot, you may still be considered a flop
In the past, you've done Players who were amazing at an international level but never as good at a club level. On a similar note, could you do, players that were amazing in Champions League/Europa League, but poor in their national competition?
It doesn't make sense
The average transfer fee has increased a lot in recent years. In any given year or period of time, you have a X% failure rate for transfers. If you keep it, by the sheer increase of average transfer fees it will seem like the most expensive transfers are failures, when it's more a case of more money being paid in general than the players themselves. In other words, teams have been willing to spend more money to secure their targets than 10 or 20 years ago.
Your comments on Bale got me thinking...could you possibly make a documentary on Bale's time at Real Madrid and where it all went wrong please? It would make for an amazing video!
What??!! Bale did really well
@@richardloach610 He did, but it did turn sour at Real. His car being attacked springs to mind.
did you forget how brilliant bale was early on in the madrid move
shockingly brilliant, his injuries fucked him up but even then, the champions leagues WERE worth the signing probably
Maguire was good at Leicester can't blame united For not seeing it coming
Been out best defender until this season, people forget this
@@jhaych Shaw was better than him last season tbh
@@marko9463 on the attack yes, defensively I'd argue that
@@jhaych also to be fair theres not like that much of a competition as well
@@marko9463 but I remember him being out for the final last season and we all panicked
Gareth Bale was instrumental to Madrid winning their CLs and even the Copa Del Ray. I would say he was an excellent signing
Bale’s certainly not a failure at Madrid. 4 Champions League, twice scoring the winner. May add another on the weekend.
Balled for Spurs and at the Euros last season and continues to ball for the National Team.
Not his fault Real Madrid fans are awful and he loves the Cymru x
Excellent video though, content is sublime
Are UA-cam speeding your voice up on earlier casts?
expectations might have been low south of the border for Robertson he was held in extremely high regard in Scotland
Everything you said, was the absolute truth. Taking all consideration into consideration, everything said is true
please do a video on the player who has played in the most teams ever
While a lot are straightup disappointments, some are still good but people expect them to perform miracles. Neymar just had a ridiculous price tag but he played mesmerizing football for psg. But he alone can't win the CL. He's been more injury prone and that's a disappointing part but any time he played he was class and calling him a disappointment is a bit harsh
Can't agree that it's only in the last few years that there have been high-profile failed expensive signings. How about Veron, Torres, Shevchenko, even Berbatov? Some transfers work out, others don't, and that seems to be true at all prices and all leagues.
That chances created bit while Bruno was on the screen was quite good
I think the problem is that genuine world class players would cost crazy money. for example if Shearers transfer happend today it would be mental. that leaves us with fairly average players who are comanding 100m+ transfers because the elite are too much money to sign now.
The only insanely high transfer fees that look like absolute value for money (that immediately come to mind) are:
1. Zinedine Zidane to Madrid
2. Cristiano Ronaldo to Madrid
3. Virgil Van Dijk to Liverpool
The difference between players twenty years ago and now is social media. Purely and simply…
James Rodriguez really fell off didn't he.
Big money transfers are the definition of buying high on an investment. Rarely does an investment of that size become more valuable, and when it does it's usually more to do with the general rising of the market value as a whole than anything to do with the actual investment.
Me, thinking of Alisson being the most expensive goalie at the time and Virgil being the most expensive defender at the time, plus the successes of Ronaldo at both Real and Juve, and Neymar and Mbappe at PSG (more in a commercial sense): "What is the title on about?"
Most cases are for young players that are brought to totally different leagues to play totally different roles.
There needs to be a lot more context when talking about Zidane, he had a very short career at top clubs he was even knocked back by Newcastle the first people really saw of him was when juve signed him and he dominated their performances in two champions league campaigns both times beaten in the final then the World Cup 98 happened and the euro 2000 and he was arguably the best player in both tournaments
Can you make a video on why players brought from the Portuguese league always successful in the premier league
Back when Ronaldo and Zidane played, the feat of wining the World Cup meant a lot more than it does now. This is because back then, Boca Juniors won the Intercontinental Cup in 2000 and 2003 (could've won the Club World Cup in 2001 had it been contested) and three Brazilian clubs, Corinthians, Sao Paulo and Internacional, won the Club World Cup in a row in between 2000, 2005 and 2006. So clearly, club competition was much more even between Europe and South America (at least the big two) and to prove oneself it was imperative to win the World Cup.
Today however, the world is much more focused on UEFA than ever before, so being decisive in winning the Champion's League even just a couple of times undoubtly means a player is on his way of becoming Ballon d'Or candidate, this is simply because the gap in level between South American and European top clubs have become astornomical since the mid 2000s, and thus winning the Club World Cup has become almost a cake walk for European teams, and the same can be said about the World Cup in regards to the big 4 or 5 National Teams in Europe since their players mostly play in their leagues and often for the same teamsas well.
I remember back in the late 2000s when I read comments from European fans, talking about the Champions League as if it was the utmost competition in the world and myself shrugging it off as blatant shenaningans on their behalf; now, while a part of me still thinks winning the World Cup is a lot more difficult than winning the Champion's League, I do concur, and can't help but agree, that besides an incredibly outlandish chance in a million such as M'Bappe, the top 10/20 best players in a World Cup will undboutly have been amongst the top 10/15 players in the last three to five UEFA Champions League.
The thing Neymar having been labeled as a faluire is because not only has him being unable to win the World Cup with Brazil like Ronaldo did, but because he left Barcelona at a time the team was still debatible a top3 team in the world, to go for a club such as PSG, that, even at that time, were seen as perennial underachievers, even more so than these days, and after five years (one more year than his former club Barcelona) of ever perfecting PSG with better and better top class signings, has remained trophy-less at the Champions League nontheless.
Before watching the full video, is the solution to this not as simple as no footballer is worth 90+ million the pressure and expection is too much and no one can achieve 90+ millions worth
Lol you should check out Serie A transfer fees from the 90's and 2000's. Crespo was €56m in 2000/01, Buffon €50m in 01/02, Mendieta €48m in 01/02, Vieri €47m in 99/00.
22:24 I fully agree, I think one explanation may be the relative decrease in the importance of the world cup in relation to the champions league. Zidane and Ronaldo, in addition to being a treat for the eyes, earned the status of one of the greatest of all time for their performances in 98 and 02 respectively.
"That was my logic" 😭👏🏽
Zidane have 1 UCL like Mount but Mount don't have a world cup i think that sums it up same will be with R9 2 World Cup
I have a suggestion. Can you do a video on Real Madrid's champions league history. More specifically, why they won 5 in a row. Then after 62' they didnt win again for over 3 decades. Then starting 98' won 3 in 6 years. Then starting 2014' won 4 in 5 years. Am i the only one who finds that very strange?
add one more ucl to that total haha
Liverpool gets back their money worth. Amazing how they do their scouting and negotiating. I think Man City has a good deal for Haaland too.
A player has to be mentally strong, physically fit and actually an excellent player who fits the squad and tactics to live up to expectations. Take Ronaldo to Real Madrid or Mbappe to PSG. It checks all the boxes.
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I am not from Great Britain. Here the Liverpool fans I know where screaming for Moreno to be sold and Robertson to start since the first day.
When transfers have weight they weren't.
Cruyff as first 1mil sinning to Barsa, Maradona to Napoli, Zidan to Real Madrid, than Ronaldo and Bale all of those were really good signings.
Once when everyone started to put big numbers with inflation now 50 mil is nothing like average players is worth like that. So anyone who is little above average is worth tones.
And let's be honest Neymar and Mbape aren't that big miss transfers, PSG with them got to UCL Finale.
also clubs have more money to spend on risky transfers.
jury still out on Grealish, two more seasons before i can pass judgement on him
TDo he dont fit in with their new teammates nor are they playing in the same System that made them successful. “Modern football Tactics” have rendered the “transfermart” estimates obsolete since you can’t equate a playing thriving under Klopp to replicate that with Valverde. But De Jong doing well at Barca from a club with similar tactics is an example.
Ok Zidane may not have won or been top 3 ballon d'or during his time at Madrid but he won World Player of the Year, which is arguably more prestigious.
I would like to say that the jury should be out on one of two things - whether Maguire was a failure at all, and further if that’s deemed too controversial whether his form was the sole reason.
If you look at the goals conceded totals for the two seasons prior to this just gone, they’ve conceded less goals than when they signed him. He is, for those who actually see games, the player before Fernandes who they build around. His progressive passing is integral to their build up play and has been ever since he joined. He was an important player as they finished second, and there’s a clear reason why he’s been a favourite of United managers. He’s a very competent centre back. It’s easy to make someone look awful if you scrutinise every single mistake they make, and that’s given a false impression of his form for the club. The only true criticism could be that he hasn’t played to the level of Van Dijk…
But then, the club he joined, and this is the main point, was an utter mess then and still is now. There’s a large contingent who are simply incompetent (no, not him, Fred, Matic, Mata, Rashford, Lindelof, Dalot, AWB, Telles, Greenwood, McT) and another who have awful attitude (Pogba and Martial have also been woeful - they’re definite failures) and the blend is poor because United signed talented individuals with no view to chemistry. Expecting anyone to be the steadying ship of that United team was going to be an impossible task regardless of transfer fee. Take Varane - he has performed far worse than Maguire having arrived from a much more successful team. If Maguire played for a club with genius tactics and players who gel together, he would be much more highly regarded. Because he deals with unholy levels of responsibility both defensively and offensively because of team mate limitations, his merits aren’t recognised because they’re too regular and expected, whereas his gaffs are too easy to spot and easy to use as bait.
That said, there are two reasons he’ll always be a “failure” in popular opinion. The price (and if they win a league title at any point when he’s still there, he’s been worth every penny, this team is beyond help), and the abhorrent hate he receives from systemically prejudiced social media mobs. Is it true? To the level of failure alleged by most, not in the slightest. But yes, he hasn’t worked out. And given the United team, it’s hard to see how anyone could’ve, whether they came for four figures or nine.
Varane worse than maguire!!!!!!
I was thinking you were making a decent point up until then, although I think you're giving maguire way to much benefit of the doubt. His positional sense has been awful this season which greatly affects him because he's incredibly slow, his attempts to carry the ball from the back have mostly been laughable and worst of all he constantly stands off attackers allowing them extra space to either shoot or dribble past him. Is there a decent dominant in the air centre back in him??, Yes and he was exactly that last season but his form this season leaves serious question marks over his starting spot and leadership qualities. I personally would keep him only because he fills a homegrown quota and is a decent rotation option for a top side but realistically he wouldn't start for man City or Liverpool, which is exactly why city didn't sign him. They probably thought 80 million was a massive over spend for a rotation option, turns out city's recruitment team were 100% spot on.
Man United is a club where any player joining is only six weeks from "Announce" to "Out" twitter posts.