Good morning Oliver. Whatever you call it, it’s genius I’m about to go into my modest workshop and turn perfectly respectable pieces of timber into shavings and dust 🌞
Genius! I looked at the Unosand multi sl-300 last year as I was sanding quite a lot of mouldings- but at £9000 + vat it was about 9 grand more than I had! I did look at those sanding flappers (?!) which could fit onto a spindle, but obviously the spindle runs way too fast. Perhaps a vfd on the spindle? Not looked into that yet. This looks like another workshop project added to my list! Cheers Oli 👍🏻
You were saying that the top notch machine was £18K, NOT within my budget either. But the principle of the idea is great. A thought would be; extend the base board, add a second power drill with a 2nd sander wheel, you've already got the power feed unit. The first drill running in reverse and the 2nd running either reverse or forward depending on how the finish comes up with say 220 grit. At only £25 per sanding head with an extra bit of time to make the jig, I think you have stumbled onto a gem of an idea.
Just a thought on this if you made a similar sort of set up at the end of your outfeed fence as you do the moulding you could do the moulding and the sanding in one operation.
Absolutely genius idea. The only thing I'd do is keep developing it now while the project is fresh and exciting. I imagine it'll kill that drill in not time, so at least fit a proper motor. Three-phase with a speed controller would be amazing.
Fantastic idea using the power feeder. I'm a big fan of the BMS 180 for a texture brushed finish... but it's a time consuming process with 3 to 4 passes with each of the 3 heads. I digress. The real magic happens (the smoothing final passes) with the sisal brush head, so maybe your supplier does a similar one. And yeah, a dust collection hood would be a boon as it's a real man-glitter generator 🙈
Used to have something similar attached to an angle grinder, for cleaning aluminium before welding… except it was a stainless bristles, shaked like mad, and would run away across the shop if you let go of the grinder. Called it the “wheel of death”.
I have enjoyed to see. Thank you for sharing. If you could lower the speed of your spindle moulder to 1500 RPM than would be able to use the same kind tool fitted. This could benefit to allow a proper dust extraction as well.
Thanks Chris, yeah I wanted a spindle moulder version, but the speed is too much, it would be possible I guess if used a speed controller on the spindle motor alongside slow belt setting, but didn't want to mess with my spindle just yet 😂👍
Did something similar but using those large nylon bristle wheels and by hand. Unfortunately there's not enough actual bristles on the wheel and even at 180 grit they were too aggressive. It got rid of the chatter but left the surface of the wood looking like beach drift wood! For a name? How about simply 'Basil'?
Nice job again there mate , would you be able to get an insert fabricated to allow you to mount it on the spindle. Then run the spindle at it's slowest speed or similar to the drill speed and you can tilt your spindle to suit the profile. Just a thought.
I wonder if it would be possible to use the spindle moulder to shape the brush so that it perfectly matches the moulding? I think it would need a mirror image of the moulding cutter, but it's making my brain hurt trying to visualise it.
i think the new brush and abrasive works best when its not profiled to shape, (i may be wrong) but the bending and pressing of the abrasive as it runs over the timber is the sanding action. im not sure, it works really well tbh and sanded about 60 lengths twice no sweat.
@@BradshawJoinery You may have problems running a hand drill like that backwards reliably. Those hand-tighten chucks tend to loosen up when running backwards, so it is likely to keep dropping the wheel shaft. If you can find a drill that does what you want and has a real Jacobs-type chuck you would probably get better results. I'm not saying running the head backwards isn't a good idea, or to not try it. Just suggesting that you may have disappointing results with that particular type of chuck, so a little more ingenuity may be required to make it do what you want.
I’ve said it before mate, you are a genius! What about a hinge on infeed side and just wedges at outfeed, for height adjustment? Of the ‘eh by gum binator ‘
There seem to be something special with the two English youtubers named Oliver. Bradshaw Joinery and Snowball Engineering - both from farmer families and masters of tackling challenges on top of being excellent craftsmen. There are good hopes for England despite Brexit 😉😉 Thanx for sharing - already shared with Norwegian woodworkers
Good morning Oliver. Whatever you call it, it’s genius I’m about to go into my modest workshop and turn perfectly respectable pieces of timber into shavings and dust 🌞
Haha nice one Ray! Enjoy yourself!!
Genius! I looked at the Unosand multi sl-300 last year as I was sanding quite a lot of mouldings- but at £9000 + vat it was about 9 grand more than I had! I did look at those sanding flappers (?!) which could fit onto a spindle, but obviously the spindle runs way too fast. Perhaps a vfd on the spindle? Not looked into that yet. This looks like another workshop project added to my list! Cheers Oli 👍🏻
You were saying that the top notch machine was £18K, NOT within my budget either. But the principle of the idea is great. A thought would be; extend the base board, add a second power drill with a 2nd sander wheel, you've already got the power feed unit. The first drill running in reverse and the 2nd running either reverse or forward depending on how the finish comes up with say 220 grit. At only £25 per sanding head with an extra bit of time to make the jig, I think you have stumbled onto a gem of an idea.
I like this.
The Flippin' Flappinator ... LOL
Hahaa!!! I see an american guy has made the "chatternator"
Just a thought on this if you made a similar sort of set up at the end of your outfeed fence as you do the moulding you could do the moulding and the sanding in one operation.
im going to have to make one of these myself
Absolutely genius idea. The only thing I'd do is keep developing it now while the project is fresh and exciting. I imagine it'll kill that drill in not time, so at least fit a proper motor. Three-phase with a speed controller would be amazing.
Flapulous 👌👌
Fantastic idea using the power feeder. I'm a big fan of the BMS 180 for a texture brushed finish... but it's a time consuming process with 3 to 4 passes with each of the 3 heads. I digress. The real magic happens (the smoothing final passes) with the sisal brush head, so maybe your supplier does a similar one. And yeah, a dust collection hood would be a boon as it's a real man-glitter generator 🙈
Used to have something similar attached to an angle grinder, for cleaning aluminium before welding… except it was a stainless bristles, shaked like mad, and would run away across the shop if you let go of the grinder. Called it the “wheel of death”.
I absolutely love that! The Wheel of Death!
😂😂😂
cool profile paddle you made there
Flaptastic! Cheers Jim
Cool contraption.
The Flappinator!
I have enjoyed to see. Thank you for sharing. If you could lower the speed of your spindle moulder to 1500 RPM than would be able to use the same kind tool fitted. This could benefit to allow a proper dust extraction as well.
Thanks Chris, yeah I wanted a spindle moulder version, but the speed is too much, it would be possible I guess if used a speed controller on the spindle motor alongside slow belt setting, but didn't want to mess with my spindle just yet 😂👍
Nice job !!! well taught out !!!!
Flappy-McFlapp-wheel.. 😊
The Industrial Smoother!
👍👍👍. Thank you
An interesting solution and one which I imagine will save quite some time over having to hand sand.
Absolutley!!! im chuffed how it performed!! made a huge difference
Just observing,, would the finish be better if you ran the drill in the opposite direction of the feed,
If you use a drill with light hammer action you may get the oscillation you desire.
Did something similar but using those large nylon bristle wheels and by hand. Unfortunately there's not enough actual bristles on the wheel and even at 180 grit they were too aggressive. It got rid of the chatter but left the surface of the wood looking like beach drift wood!
For a name? How about simply 'Basil'?
clever man
Nice job again there mate , would you be able to get an insert fabricated to allow you to mount it on the spindle.
Then run the spindle at it's slowest speed or similar to the drill speed and you can tilt your spindle to suit the profile.
Just a thought.
that was my initial plan, but they run far too quickly for a sanding head unfortunately :(
thanks bud!
Thought that you would have considered it and also thought that it maybe the case regards the RPM.
Remember that the business end of a brush is the tips of the bristles, so not to much pressure, or the bristles will bend and drag the tips behind…
Looks like the a wheel deal to mne 😅
I wonder if it would be possible to use the spindle moulder to shape the brush so that it perfectly matches the moulding? I think it would need a mirror image of the moulding cutter, but it's making my brain hurt trying to visualise it.
i think the new brush and abrasive works best when its not profiled to shape, (i may be wrong) but the bending and pressing of the abrasive as it runs over the timber is the sanding action. im not sure, it works really well tbh and sanded about 60 lengths twice no sweat.
@@BradshawJoinery thanks for the explanation.
You were doing sooo well until you've named it 😂😂 now I can only think of the fartonator....
Call it the flogger basically what it’s doing haha
the flip flopper
How much was the head because making a diy version of the $20,000 machine for sub $2000 would make it a lot more justifiable for small shops.
💪👍
Flappy McFlapFace
Not 'the whipping boy'' then?
add a second drill so you only need to do one pass!
im tempted!!! i think i will progrss the idea into a standalone machine thats really compact!
@@BradshawJoinery You may have problems running a hand drill like that backwards reliably. Those hand-tighten chucks tend to loosen up when running backwards, so it is likely to keep dropping the wheel shaft. If you can find a drill that does what you want and has a real Jacobs-type chuck you would probably get better results.
I'm not saying running the head backwards isn't a good idea, or to not try it. Just suggesting that you may have disappointing results with that particular type of chuck, so a little more ingenuity may be required to make it do what you want.
Fladagast the brown?
No?
I'll show myself out..
"Oliver Twister" ??
title here
Sonic the hedgehog sander.
👊🫡
I’ve said it before mate, you are a genius!
What about a hinge on infeed side and just wedges at outfeed, for height adjustment? Of the ‘eh by gum binator ‘
that could work! i have a few ideas, next time i need to use it ill update the design haha
There seem to be something special with the two English youtubers named Oliver. Bradshaw Joinery and Snowball Engineering - both from farmer families and masters of tackling challenges on top of being excellent craftsmen. There are good hopes for England despite Brexit 😉😉
Thanx for sharing - already shared with Norwegian woodworkers
What's a badly executed Brexit got to do with the creativity of English people