The Rewatchables: ‘Goodfellas’ | Martin Scorsese's Apex Mountain
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- As far back as The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey can remember, they always wanted to be a gangster. After years locked away in witness protection, we are releasing the often-requested full-video version of the 2021 'Rewatchables' episode on Scorsese's classic gangster movie, starring Ray Liotta, Robert De Niro, Joe Pesci, and Lorraine Bracco.
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When a Rewatchables episode is Rewatchable
Very true Henry
If there was ever a movie that needed two…
Have rewatched The Godfather II pod countless times
I’m shocked they have 99k subscribers thought they had like a million. Been watching bill for a few years now he’s absolutely the best in the business
Is this your Apex Mountain?
Worst real life Goodfellas moment - Henry Hill used to be a regular on Howard Stern's show. On one appearance (after the movie came out), Spider's real life sister called in begging Henry to tell them where they buried Spider. He just kind of laughed it off and ignored her - it was one of the most uncomfortable things I've ever heard.
Yikes
Turns out radio shows do things that stir up drama. It wasn’t real. I know this is hard for you to comprehend.
@@JKLeScH777 Why would it be hard for me to comprehend? Did I say that I personally know them? No, I said that I actually heard the conversation on the radio. Make of it what you will.
My God 😣😣 yea the real Henry did his rounds of interviews and I hated him. I watched 1 and never again. My friends kept telling me there are new interviews cuz they know I love the film, I said just don’t mention him again. He even made fun of De Niro & it was funny to Hill the details De Niro wanted to know. He made me sick
@@JKLeScH777 Not sure how you know when Henry Hill was lying or telling the truth. Just more things the rest of us can't understand I guess.
One thing to mention when analyzing Goodfellas is how Martin Scorsese uses subtle hints and motifs to point out what will eventually become with the characters and their situations. A sort of circular foreshadowing. For example:
1./ When the character of Morris Kessler (aka Morri the Wig Man) is introduced, it is made clear that he owes Jimmy Conway a fair amount of money that Jimmy lent him to help fund his cheap TV spots. When it looks like Morri doesn't want to repay Jimmy, Jimmy comes up behind him, wraps a phone cord around his neck and threatens that he'll kill him if he doesn't come up with his money, plus the interest, that day ("TODAY! TODAY!"). Later on, the situation is reversed. It is Jimmy that owes Morri money - his cut of helping discover and organize the infamous Lufthansa heist. When it looks like Jimmy is the one who will now not come through with the money, Morri becomes very pushy and insistent and demands that he gets paid. Because of this, Jimmy gets annoyed and has Tommy unexpectedly come up behind him and put a knife into the base of his skull - killing him instantly. The moral of this - crime does not pay and the house always wins.
2./ When Karen gets back from the get-together with the other wives, she lets Henry know how nervous she is about hearing all their horror stories regarding their husbands getting busted and going to prison. Henry assures her that will never happen to him because he has things organized, and the only ones who get caught are the ni**er stick-up men who get sloppy and fall asleep at the wheel in the getaway vehicle. Later on, Henry turns to trafficking narcotics, gets himself hooked on them in the process, loses control and organization of his situation and goes to prison. At around the same time, Stacks Edwards, an African American associate of the crew, puts the crew that much closer to getting busted for the Lufthansa heist because he didn't get rid of the getaway vehicle with incriminating fingerprints inside of it. Instead, he went back home and fell asleep. As a result, Tommy had to take care of business once again, and kill him from behind.
3./ The snub-nosed .38 revolver is a recurring motif throughout the film. It is the piece of equipment that makes Karen that much more attracted to Henry after he uses it to beat Bruce with to defend Karen's honor, and then he hands her the bloody firearm to stash so the police can't find it. Years later on, after Henry and Karen are married with children and Karen suspects Henry of being unfaithful to her, she wakes him up out of a drunken stupor one morning, pointing a .38 snub-nose revolver at him, threatening to kill him for his infidelities. I'd like to think that this was the same gun he gave to her years before when things were good between them, and now giving her that gun was biting him in the ass when things were bad. A .38 snub-nosed revolver was also the gun used by Tommy to beat Billy Batz to unconsciousness - the one isolating event that started bringing things from good to bad for the crew.
4./ Near the start of the movie, when Henry is narrating exposition to the viewer of how a boss like Pauly and an organized crime crew operates ("They're like a police department for wise guys."), there is a scene of an outdoor bar-b-cue in Pauly's backyard. In that scene, the camera lingers for a bit on a circular coil of sausage roasting on the grill. The sausage coil is in one piece, just like the crew, and is roasting outside in the fresh air on a beautiful summer day where the crew is together, prosperous and happy. "These are the good times." Years later on, when the use and trafficking of narcotics enters into the picture, it soon puts the crew into jeopardy because the FBI and DEA are now keeping close surveillance on everybody. This forces Pauly to pull the plug on everything and have everybody lay low and operate on their own, at their own risk. Henry eventually gets caught for the narcotics trafficking and is eventually forced by the FBI to rollover on everybody to buy his freedom and save his life and the lives of his family. Before this happens though, he goes to Pauly one last time to plead for a cash loan since he's about to lose all his assets due to his arrest. He pleads with Pauly in the back of some dingy kitchen where Pauly is slowly pan-frying sausages that are cut up and divided - just like the crew. "These are the bad times."
5./ A bit of foreshadowing. When the character of Lois the babysitter is first introduced, Henry, very subtly and inadvertently, removes the hat from her head while standing behind her looking at the baby she has in her charge. This is the same hat (Lois' lucky hat) that brings the whole house of cards crashing down since she can't travel without this hat. So while Henry and Lois go back to Lois' place to retrieve the hat, that's when the FBI and DEA move in and the big arrest happens. The hat was not so lucky after all.
I loved this movie from the first time in the theater. The acknowledgement that Goodfellas is one of the all time greats came much later.
As the '90's rolled on, I was amazed at how many people had never watched the movie. I would insist on getting friends to watch the movie, and loved watching the reactions as I saw more people seeing a classic movie for the first time.
This is Simmons at his best.
I’ve listened to this pod so many times. So glad I get to watch it now.
They should do a rewatchable on the rewatchables
I know it's cliche but Goodfellas is one of my favorite movies of all time!
There are 2 movies that I saw at the theater 2 days in a row in my life. Goodfellas and Pulp Fiction.
Fuck all the contrarians, there's nothing wrong with recognizing greatness
Saw it on opening day in Toronto. Not surprised that it has become THE mob movie of all time.
Does this mean Bill will drop the two part Boogie Nights rewatchables video?
Re: most influential movies of the past 35 years (37 now), the other contenders are Die Hard, Batman, and When Harry Met Sally
80's: After Hours is a good movie, Color of Money is a good move, King of Comedy, also good, Raging Bull (of course). These are also some of Marty's all-time best movies.
He followed up Goodfellas with a remake of Cape Fear and The Age of Innocence, which are also both good films.
I usually hate listening to young people talk about film. It usually feels like they are trying to say the correct thing or be interesting. But this felt genuine and informed. A truly enjoyable listen. You just got a new subscriber.
I mean these guys are like 40 😅
Simmons is over 50.
2:17:54 unfortunately there isn’t anymore 😔
Lol the podcast is as long as the film it's about, a very Scorsese move 👍🏼
That was Scorsese's apex of his apex.
2:03:53 “We're doing cruising” LOL
Acting like Lorraine Bracco was a small part of The Sopranos is criminal. Another dumb take from Billy. His surface level knowledge on movies makes me question his sports opinions even more.
Sean, Chris and Bill are the best big three in the league.
"Who played Harvey Dent in Batman?" Billy Dee!
Billy Bats is the OG. Jimmy should have been in his crew
Pesci was from NJ, not Bronx
Fun fact about ketchup on pasta: no one really did that. Also, those double sided DVDs usually had the movie on one side, and the special features on the other. They never split the movie in half. DVDs could handle 2.5 hours...
The thing is that it is basically true about poor quality pasta and sauce in other states. It's not ketchup but it's not much better. I grew up in Chicago and went to Indiana University and it was hard to find good pasta there. I think they had 1 good Italian restaurant.
That cut to CR's face 💀
My favorite use of the word fuck is when Tommy killed Maury and said to Carbone you dizzy mfer you and wouldn't Heat be apex mountain for Deniro? Or was that already the downslope?
Goodfellas. Apex Mountain for the word Fucko. 😂
Kathy Bates was phenomenal in Misery.
my nr 1 movie by far
Scorsese's use of popular music is so often imitated and almost never duplicated. The juxtaposition of a pop song over violent/degrading scenes is really overplayed now
How do you rate Wes Anderson's efforts, i think he gets close, would be interested in your opinion
@@adamcullen2988 I love Wes Anderson soundtracks. Rushmore, Tenenbaums, Life Aquatic and Darjeeling especially. However, I think while Anderson also pulls heavily from the 60s and 70s, I think his intentions are much for straightforward and less jarring than Scorsese. Anderson's soundtracks are much more direct in their emotional equivalency to the scenes. "I am Waiting" by the Stones in Rushmore is a gentle ballad that perfectly matches the tone of the scene. Anderson also splits his movies with scores. So I don't think he is copying Scorsese.
The song choice trend I'm talking about could also be attributed to Tarantino. Like "Stuck in the Middle" with a violent ear chopping scene. Sort of like edgelord tendencies to play nostalgic or "gente" music with a violent scene.
Bill and CR are gold together. I could do without Sean. He's insufferable and condescending....
Nice try Sean, but everyone knows that Apex Mountain for "kid actor who looks like their adult counterpart" is the boy who plays young Jack Black in The Pick of Destiny!
Sean forgot Liotta is not in this world for Tarantino's finale.
This was recorded before Ray Liotta passed away
@@ry8102good catch this guy!
Did that haircut in the middle actually call Taxi Driver probably the best movie of the 70s? lol, it isn't even top 5 or top 10 in that phenomenal decade of films.
I'll give a slight nudge to Tombstone for pistol whipping Apex Mountain. It's super close though.
"apex mountain" is just the kind of stupid phrase that bill simmons would use
Nicky Eyes is "What's up guy?"
Anthony Stabile catches sht from Tommy in 2 scenes
HOLY SHIT FINALLY
Is this a movie podcast or sports with brief movie mentions. Damn cmon
Billy batts was a gambino made man
Simmons-Ryan-Fennessey, true power trio.
They are good guys
@@KeithSweat89some would even call them Goodfellas ..
Finally showing us Goodfellas full episode in person. It had to be done
I watched it back to back in the theater. It’s my favorite movie by a long shot. Absolute masterpiece.
Amen brother. Rewatched today, still love it.
The break on the dvd was when Karen was talking to Janice through the speaker at her apartment if memory serves correctly
It was nice of Karen to let the superintendent know that there was a whore living in 2R. 😂😂😂
Your memory doesn’t serve correctly. Why comment this when your memory is wrong? Delete it
I think it's basically the best movie since, um, Goodfellas. Maybe the best since 1980 let alone 1990. I go back and forth on whether Goodfellas, Taxi Driver, or Raging Bull is his best....They all have an argument to be his best......Though Dances With Wolves beating it was ridiculous, I think an even more ridiculous snub was Liotta not even getting NOMINATED for best actor.....Imo, he owns this movie more than anyone (including the great Pesci)....To me, it's Liotta's movie more than anyone else and he gives one of the great performances in any movie ever. I have always thought he never got enough credit for his performance and influence in and on this film, including his incredible almost Morgan Freeman level narration. What a wondrous film it is.
Please upload all of these, I absolutely love watching them all on UA-cam! It's so fun watching the way you all interact discussing my favorite films.
Rest in Peace Tony Bennett, I saw the news of his passing as I was listening to this Rewatchable... Life is a trip
Ray Liotta's passing was one of the saddest days of my life, Goodfellas is a precious movie for me and my #1 gangster movie
I met him at Berdgorf Goodman in 2017. He was a super nice guy and even took a picture with me and my buddy.
What a life you must have
@@Edd_LShore what does that mean?
@@darlingtonatuba5910 If thats your saddest... you are pretty lucky, dont you think?
Black Bird - the series he finished before passing is excellent. I rewatched Goodfellas dozens of times, mostly for him. He was also in a cutesy comedy movie with Sigourney Weaver & Jennifer Love Hewitt.
Yes, it's Scorsese's best movie. The gang outlined why it is the best movie of all time. When I was in college, my roommates and I had this movie on repeat for five years straight. We spoke to and interacted with each in the language of this movie.
goodfellas deserves a re-re-re-re watch to complement HEAT
In terms of pace and cinematography, i see goodfellas as 70s rock where The Godfather is classical
In terms of everything I would add.
Straight away - you can call this Scorsese's best movie ever, I have no problem with that. However, you can't call it the culmination of his career when Casino doesn't come out for another five years. That's a little disrespectful to Casino, but these conversations are amazing. These are the conversations we all want to have over a beer with a friend but don't have the attention span or time. Love it.
I'll start by saying that I love Casino. But in some ways Casino is Goodfellas pt 2. again no disrespect. I love taxi driver and raging bull, but I agree that Goodfellas is the pinnacle of Scorsese's artistic vision and commercial appeal
That’s because Casino completely sucks!
KAREN!!!!!
Mean streets is the most overrated underrated film I ever saw. Underrated as a lot of people haven't seen it but it's pretty boring. Good performances but Nothing really happens for most of the movie.
I can't remember if the question was asked in this episode or another one, but Yes, Jimmy was married. His wife is in a bunch of scenes. They're not shown together much, maybe only in the vacation photos and at the wedding, but she's shown at the wives hangout, in the bar, and at Jimmy's trial.
Wolf of Wallstreet was not even close to the level of the ALL TIME MASTERPIECE that Goodfellas was! Goodfellas washes TF out of it! It’s on so many peoples Mount Rushmore for a reason!
Goodfellas didn’t need to be watched 3 times to know it was ILLmatic the first time!
This is possibly the reason why we love, The Rewatchables. The Big 3…………😂😂😂😂
You should do Unwatchable episodes for bad movies 🎥!
Liotta was amazing in that role
One “crucial characteristic” of Goodfellas is the fact that most of the main characters, as well as Scorsese, were all from the NY/Jersey/PA region. This gave a rich authenticity to the whole vibe of the movie.
Their personalities, ragging on each other…talking shit, mannerisms, vernacular and puns were things I heard everyday growing up in the Bronx.
I'm tired of people saying the Departed is some kind of make up oscar or sympathy award. The Departed while not as good as other Scorsese films, is literally the best film of 2006. No other film from that year is as good as The Departed. Yeah it's a flawed film but that oscar was earned. I mean what else was there in 2006? What, freakin Dream Girls?
I forgot about Casino Royale. That's a contender. But the Departed was well directed and Scorsese earned that directors award.
The Prestige, Children of Men, The Lives of Others, A Scanner Darkly, and the Last King of Scotland, I'd take over The Departed (and obviously I'm a huge Scorsese fan)
@@kojiattwood I still feel the departed was better directed. The direction is the reason the film works. The script is good but messy. As far as best picture....my favorite film of the year was Casino Roayle. I didn't like last King of Scottland. I remember not liking children of men but I am interested in revisiting it. I was young at the time and feel it deserves a second watch.
The DVD flipped right before Karen showed up to Henry's mistresses apartment with the kids. Her hitting the call buttons was the first frame of the second discovery.
This new Clipper team is a worse version of the 2011 OKC Thunder with Harden,Ibaka, Durant,Westbrook, Perkins, Ivey, Robinson
This is a film critique lol take your sports elsewhere
I watched a good documentary about how Oscars are handed out because “Shakespeare In Love”? Please. I was so disappointed by the entire process - it’s not about the performance, or even the movie, it’s about how many gifts and face time with actors and actresses the Hollywood Foreign Press gets. And when u find out who these people actually are, u wanna spit at the screen. They’re not serious journalists, 98% don’t even speak english, they are just like if a group of paparazzi had passes to the stars. Absolutely disgusting and so disappointing.
** As far as Goodfellas goes, it is phenomenal. Everything and anything about the movie or about the 5 infamous families, I read or watched.
1:41:36 Billy Dee Williams played Harvey Dent in Batman.
Probably the best episode of the Rewatchables ever.
So when I was a kid I had two basketball posters in my room... However every late 70s, early 80s Basketball poster I see I'm like "Yep I had that one" --The Kareem poster "might" have been on my wall.
For a deeper dive into that era, overlapping with some of the same key characters, read The Sinatra Club. The movie looks terrible, but the book might be better than Wiseguy.
I'd love to see you do Casino which is my personal favorite of Scorsese's films.
EVERY. FUCKING. SCENE. HOT. DAMN.
Dancing with Wolves win is the biggest mistake of the Oscars. Also, Liotta not winning an Oscar for Goodfellas. Absolutely ridiculous he wasn’t nominated .
The entire Oscars is a mistake. Our guy Rog never got nominated for Beyond the Valley of the Dolls.
Great analysis! My favourite film of all time and most quotable 😊
I remember my dad watching this when I was like 10 years old and I never enjoyed watching stuff he watched. And this one clicked with me and I sat and watched with him and it became one of my all time favorite movies
That's a lovely memory
Wonderful. Thanks guys. THE perfect podcast.
“I got to f*cking come HOME for this?!”
Billy Dee Williams played Harvey Dent in Batman 89
Put out all of the video versions of the Rewatchables, we'll eat 'em up.
I wouldn't bet my left *** (Toe) that there was a Good Fellas Rewatchables already
They are posting the full videos on YT finally!
Yes you are right. this is the full version of it. The old one was couple of minutes this one is for 2 hrs:
This is one of the best mob movies! Bill, I also have that DVD where they play half the movie on one side and then I have to get up and flip it over. There's only one other DVD, I have to do that with and it's Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. I should look for some new copies. Without a doubt, Jimmy would've had Karen killed. If she didn't decide to leave at the last min. Chris' impression of Ray Liotta saying Karen was hilarious! BTW! I'd pick Goodfellas over Dances with Wolves anytime!
The eat the food part, when Robert D tells the mom the food was delicious, delicious... After commiting that murder and enjoying the food.... Devilish 😈😅😅😅
I've watched this pod like 4 times in last 6 months. Brilliant
That dang 2 sided DVD!! Also, during the crew intro. Fat Andy is played by one half of the real Cocaine Cop’s (Eppolitto) & Frankie the Wop is played by Tony Lip (Green book/Sopranos) Great Job guys!!
You actually do see Jimmy's wife. They show her in the scene where Tommy tells his date if she looks at anyone else he'll kill her. She tells another woman "He'll really do it, too!" And the other woman, Jimmy's wife, says "Yeah! That's great!!" with a look of horror. You see pictures of her and Jimmy with Henry and Karen on vacation. Very surprised I remember this and you guys don't
BAd was shot inside the Hoyt-Schermerhorn subway station in Brooklyn.
It's "IT'S WHAT IT IS" not "IT IS WHAT IT IS" in The Irishman.
Anybody have a mini-stroke when they saw this just uploaded and thought they did it again?
I think Best Supporting Actor in 1991 should’ve been
Robert De Niro, Goodfellas
Andy Garcia, The Godfather III
Al Pacino, Dick Tracy
*Joe Pesci, Goodfellas*
Robin Williams, Awakenings
I think you guys are selling Pacino short. Dick Tracy wasn’t great but Pacino was.
Crazy that Micheal francheze is now a UA-camr
Goodfellas is back when being a Karen was considered cool
Everytime my girl and I make spaghetti sauce I keep telling her:
“Don’t let the sauce stick!”
Oscars are irrelevant ...wasted discussion
No they arent when movies are made trying to win them
I agree. When I think about “vintage film” vs “present day”… Goodfellas is ground zero.
What kind of research did all of you three do when you don't even know DeNiro is HALF Irish? His mom was Irish. Just as in the movie itself, Jimmy was only half-Irish so he couldn't be a made man. Smeh.
when Saving Private Ryan lost to Shaeksespeare In Love....THAT was the straw that broke the camel's back...I've never watched another Oscars since.
Love this. Love a good deep dive.
That said, Chris screaming “Karen” repeatedly was brutal. Make it stop.
In my opinion he has the best sense of humor out of all of them. Bill and Sean are like 2 cranky old men.
I don't think anyone knows that Mike Starr's brother is Henry Hill's father, and shocked Sean doesn't know he played for the Jets.
IMO guinea is a worse slur for Italians than dago.
Oh whoa!! All these years I was fine making up in my mind what u guys would look like… and here we are 😂… love this damn show so much!! Glad to be able to watch it now!
46:30 a "fictional" representation of christ. As if there is any other kind?
I always assumed Tuddy was a nickname for Arturo or “Arthur.”
I cant see what everybody (wants to) see on Liotta. I didnt believe 97% of his lines. He low key ruined the movie for me.