Most likely because jp and en are not close because of the language barrier, kiara and haachama aside. Matsuri's english is just as good as gura's japanese and that barrier is what allows matsuri to be able to be a fan of her. Plus, shes a loli.
The pure confidence to be able to say live to thousands of people (and through clips, millions) that you read comic LO is a level of confidence I will never attain but have the utmost respect for.
@@steventan7420 Just what I was gonna say. Coming from a woman, it seems, maybe a little twisted, but overall pure. Coming from a guy, he just sounds like a creepy pervert that needs to be put away.
Sorrow Because Matsuri is in love with Hoshikawa for real? I don’t know how to answer because we can’t know everything that happens in their lives but we know that she is in love with her in real life . It’s a unrequited love on Matsuri’s part. I think it started around October/November of 2019.
"I'm waiting for young girls" "Young Girl? It's me" "........You're at the opposite side of young girl" I don't know why but this one makes me Laugh so hard 🤣
1:17 A *more-loli lolicon* attacks a *more-auntie loli* Matsuri: _"I'm a lolicon..."_ Marine: _"No... I'll be attacked!"_ Me: confused noises 4:39 Most kawaii V-Tuber according to Matsuri is surprisingly not a loli, it's Hoshikawa Sara
Nice Bronya profile pic. Also yeah, it's wild to see one v-tuber profess her very real love for another v-tuber. Its not gonna end well for Matsuri, but we need to support her when she eventually ends up going through heartbreak.
I think people are getting a little too excited. Matsuri doesn't hold that much influence and she's only one of the idols. If you get caught reading Lo, you're still gonna end up on a list and lose your job.
@@Phatnaru0002 In most? It's only in Canada where they would throw you into prison, and it doesn't matter if it's hentai or not, which is absurd, in UK you just get your stuff confiscated and in that prison island called Australia, on which woman with A cups are considered childs (not even kidding) and ban at least one game every month, you also get your stuff confiscated, nothing about jail.
There has always been 2 of them. ... Hell, there's always been millions of them. You just never noticed. Unrelated, ofc: With the Coronavirus, the more cases there are, means that the likelihood of dangerous cases is a much lower percentage than originally thought.
So...this is how ladies of culture behave when talking about subjects of culture. It does mirror that of men of culture's. Also, Senchou has the same tastes I do. /runs
0:58 Matsuri: Sencho is not old lady Sencho is not old lady Sencho is not old lady Marine: Hey stop that. Matsuri: But i have to memorize this. So this is the truth
@UCfOkV_27aknousv_dhGeRgg only the chosen few know it name. It start with n and end with i, it have a word that sound with gentai. The n come before the h. That is all the clue.
I think I understand her point. After all, Marine seems rather carefree, and her energy is rather contagious. And I think that if she really is in the older side of the Hololive spectrum, that only adds more to that idea. I'm sure she respects her a lot.
Girls talking about being lolicon : Chat about their favorite loli, artist, manga, doujin Guys talking about being lolicon : Guy 1 : "I like loli" Guy 2 : " *FBI ! ! !* " Guy 3 : " *FBI ! ! !* " Guy 4 : " *FBI ! ! !* "
@@mrchezsandvich.4096 i don't either (not a lolicon) but on another matsuri video she started talking about her favourite h manga and said one or two by this quizlax, people in the comment helpfully provided the six digits as well as short descriptions and the tags were some of the most heinous stuff i've heard. Loli is arguably the least bad part about it.
Ngl, for someone who's female and a degenerate myself, I'd totally love to befriend both Matsuri and Marine or at least have someone who's like them. It's just hard to act innocent around my irl female friends when I'm as degenerate as these two 😂 Maybe one reason why these two were the members I focused more when I got into the hole followed by Coco and Haachama.
Thank you! Everybody talking about all the culture in this video, but among all the degeneracy there was a heartwarming moment at the end. I think Matsuri meant it too. In the bad timeline where Marine isn't Hololive, Matsuri would surely be a fan of hers.
(1:50) I sense a disturbance in the force (2:28) Correction, it's Quzilax... and I just confirmed my hypothesis... she mentioned it before, I believe she said her favorite eromanga was Geiger Counter... (2:50) WTF!?!? WHAT DO YOU MEAN PURE LOVE!?
Got kind of heavy when Marine accidentally brought up Hoshikawa. It definitely seemed like she asked without really thinking about it expecting a loli meme answer (Luna or Shion maybe). After a beat she realizes she fucked up because of course it's Hoshikawa and Matsuri's crush is either a deep AF character bit or a really sad one sided thing.
Visualization. It's a skill you get for practicing and drawing alot with proper anatomy. I mean, you just draw each part but your mind/eyes are already filling in the blanks. There's also a tutorial for exercising such skill. I think Ethan Baker was the one who mentioned about those stuff. Edit: Ethan Becker. Dammit auto correct.
@@tofugakiraidesu good luck! Ethan is actually great when it comes to breaking down art. He recommends other good artists and you can fetch some good stuff for improving. There's also Mikey Mega but mostly focuses on a fanservicey style. But still not bad per se, if you want to draw sexy girls or something. Otherwise, he makes useful tuts that's actually better than other videos. Gesture/figure drawing is a big help when it comes to filling in the blanks btw. So watch out for gesture/figure drawing tips.
Matsuri: I like Vtubers that have their own belief, that they do whatever they want - like they say "I just want to do this" me: well uh... I think Matsuri would like Mea a lot.... probably.
Anyone else bothered by the fact the subtitles are not neatly at the bottom but instead around the person who says them? Made it much harder to follow personally.
Just like Geiger Counter, I'm pretty sure I've read Loli Tomodachi and have subsequently purged all memory of it, because I think I've seen that page before lmao I can see why Matsuri loves them though, the lolis Quzilax draws are god tier cute.
It's like my illusion of Japanese prudence and girls being flustered at the mere mention of "chinchin" is being shattered by each second I am watching these Vtubers
Tsk the links are incomplete. We need to link to the manga too. Oh wait why is the FBI outside my house? No wait please this is a misunderstanding! This is for educational purpose I swear!
![Princess Bijou donates her fanfic Nerissa x Elizabeth and shocked Fauna [Biboo/HololiveEN]](/img/n.gif)
Yagoo: "I wanted to make an idol group just like AKB48"
Every time they speak, YAGOO's dream is crushed
Instead he made one that fires out content like an AK-47
@@D.b._Lord This is a really good comment to be hidden here
“You’re the opposite of a loli”
Oooof the 40 years old truth has come to light
She's only about 30 lol
*cough* 28
Boomer cosplay pirate girl
>be me
>1300 years old
But what if the opposite of a loli is an anti-loli?
1:41 Matsuri went "heh heh heh" like she's been waiting years for someone to ask her about the specifics of her loli preferences
It must be lonely having pretty much nobody to freely talk about your passions.
It had a very "Ah, one of my people" vibe
"I've been waiting for this moment"
@@CBRN-115 *air drum intensifies*
When passionate, it's hard when you find opportunities to talk about niche things.
Matsuri then: "There's some girls I'd be a fan of if they weren't in Hololive."
Matsuri now: Openly shrimping for Gura. "You my wife."
Ride wife. Life good.
Most likely because jp and en are not close because of the language barrier, kiara and haachama aside. Matsuri's english is just as good as gura's japanese and that barrier is what allows matsuri to be able to be a fan of her.
Plus, shes a loli.
Dating Luna.
According to YAGOO'S plan:
You can't be *Hololive* without *LOLI*
Remember, Ho'loli've
@@calebbutler5566 You shouldn't unsee it
Hororaibu
@@user-we4kf5xm5u That's just a disguise YAGOO planned
Hoveloli
The pure confidence to be able to say live to thousands of people (and through clips, millions) that you read comic LO is a level of confidence I will never attain but have the utmost respect for.
Gender makes the difference.
@@steventan7420 ugh true
@@steventan7420 Just what I was gonna say.
Coming from a woman, it seems, maybe a little twisted, but overall pure.
Coming from a guy, he just sounds like a creepy pervert that needs to be put away.
@@steventan7420 did we all forget kenmouchi touya existed or what
@@Phatnaru0002 sexism will never go away completely...
Ah yes. Just two """""pure""""" idols talking about their favorite manga.
Nothing lewd here
Not enough qoutes
【 yep, nothing wrong here, just two "pure" garl 】
The most seiso idols
there's no pure in the first place ☻
"You cannot corrupt anything if it's already corrupted in the first place" probably yagoo at this point
“I love Hoshikawa the most”
[Fubuki will remember that]
I might have missed some stuff, why is Matsuri getting closer to Hoshikawa? Didn't she swear eternal love to Fubuki?
Sorrow Because Matsuri is in love with Hoshikawa for real? I don’t know how to answer because we can’t know everything that happens in their lives but we know that she is in love with her in real life . It’s a unrequited love on Matsuri’s part. I think it started around October/November of 2019.
@@sorrow_4 That's more like a joke, matsuri says that to a lot of people and fubuki is one of the ones who tag along the most, if not the one
@@esadajeti7881 they were saying matsuri to fubuiki was a joke, not hoshikawa
@@MrMagnetron2 dude dont mix the real life with her character. She is not in love with her, that whole love thing is a joke.
"I'm waiting for young girls"
"Young Girl? It's me"
"........You're at the opposite side of young girl"
I don't know why but this one makes me Laugh so hard 🤣
its the matsuri x luna thing all over again lol.
@@uteriel282 seriously... I think Luna is... Old 🤣🤣🤣 Or not..By the interaction between Luna and Marine
No medicine can treat that burn
Now I wonder how was Matsuri able to join Hololive with all of those “quirks” . She’s like the most corrupted “idol” I’ve ever seen Lol
she came in with her head already shaved
she only show her good singing/dancing/drawing. The whole packet come out later.
@@victortran2962 The side effects show after drinking the medicine, usually.
@@RandomL0s3r
Asacoco?
@@sufianramli8017 It's an analogy, but yeah.
Asacoco does this to you aswell
1:17 A *more-loli lolicon* attacks a *more-auntie loli*
Matsuri: _"I'm a lolicon..."_
Marine: _"No... I'll be attacked!"_
Me: confused noises
4:39 Most kawaii V-Tuber according to Matsuri is surprisingly not a loli, it's Hoshikawa Sara
You are everywhere XD
Nice Bronya profile pic. Also yeah, it's wild to see one v-tuber profess her very real love for another v-tuber. Its not gonna end well for Matsuri, but we need to support her when she eventually ends up going through heartbreak.
Idols openly admitting they read Comic Lo.
Ahhh we truly live in the best generation.
I think people are getting a little too excited. Matsuri doesn't hold that much influence and she's only one of the idols.
If you get caught reading Lo, you're still gonna end up on a list and lose your job.
@@Phatnaru0002 no
@@chamnabsonn282
Yes. In fact, in most English-speaking countries, you could be arrested and put in prison for a very long period of time.
@@Phatnaru0002
In most? It's only in Canada where they would throw you into prison, and it doesn't matter if it's hentai or not, which is absurd, in UK you just get your stuff confiscated and in that prison island called Australia, on which woman with A cups are considered childs (not even kidding) and ban at least one game every month, you also get your stuff confiscated, nothing about jail.
@@TaigaGaoo
US citizens have literally gotten 10+ years in prison for it. It’s not common, but it has happened.
This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!
There has always been 2 of them.
... Hell, there's always been millions of them. You just never noticed.
Unrelated, ofc: With the Coronavirus, the more cases there are, means that the likelihood of dangerous cases is a much lower percentage than originally thought.
So...this is how ladies of culture behave when talking about subjects of culture. It does mirror that of men of culture's. Also, Senchou has the same tastes I do. /runs
It could be subject of research haha
Men of culture talks :
*Akkun and non-tan dad talks about non-tan*
Ladies of culture talks :
YAGOO rolling in his grave with these conversation topics
He would ask for the sauce then roll into the coffin.
@@HalAnime2
And then Fubuki would coffin dance him to the grave with the other girls
@@HalAnime2 hes into high school girls not loli
rolling with joy.
@@HalAnime2 【 lmao, u killed me 】
0:58 Matsuri: Sencho is not old lady
Sencho is not old lady
Sencho is not old lady
Marine: Hey stop that.
Matsuri: But i have to memorize this.
So this is the truth
Matsuri: "Fans might be put off"
Me: Finally, I know there is a aplace for me.
@@kingchickenwing4887 Basically, Hell yeah. Its 2d, it's fine. Go cry a river elsewhere.
@@kingchickenwing4887 just stop with this nonsense already
@@kingchickenwing4887 yessir
@@Majorav2 Why?
@@raisp6073 What am I saying that is nonsense?
1:40 Matsuri's laugh just says "you don't know what you just got yourself into"
I really don't know about the first one.
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Wow, just wow.
@@gunz2233 Thanks! Got another code for my list.
Thanks for the sauce my dear man , my sphaget was rather dry.
@UCfOkV_27aknousv_dhGeRgg only the chosen few know it name.
It start with n and end with i, it have a word that sound with gentai. The n come before the h. That is all the clue.
Them drawing perfectly with no sketches gives me anxiety
I can see some faint outline where they draw, but matsuri can draw without it anyway xd
it's impressive yeah
S P E E D
thanks for the translations.
Now imagine a guy said this... the internet would blow up...
i'm surprised touya kenmochi hasn't been cancelled by english speakers for being a lolicon
Meanwhile talking about Quzilax-sensei
here just brings up Geiger Counter
The author who drew that is truly sick in the head. Fortunately he didn't went guro for that manga.
6:09 Sudden confession and what a weak reaction from Marine
6:28 Another sudden confession. She really had a thing for marine.
I think I understand her point. After all, Marine seems rather carefree, and her energy is rather contagious. And I think that if she really is in the older side of the Hololive spectrum, that only adds more to that idea. I'm sure she respects her a lot.
because she already know that
"im bit sad cuz people cant understand"
a criminals defense
I want to cry
Also a misunderstood person's defense.
*lolicons defense
the moment they mentioned hoshikawa...... feels sad
Such an intellectual conversation going on.
Otaku Auntie? Houshou Marine
Loli Hunter? Natsuiro Matsuri
Hotel? Trivago
LOL I love this comment!! I love the Hotel? Trivago comments a lot and this one was very fitting xD
As a drawing enthusiast , i cant focus in the conversation, I need to rewatch the whole clip hahahaha
4:40 Stepped on a landmine there senchou.
Oof
@Alvi Syahri Matsuri is serious about it, its unrequited and she knows it is.
Yeah Matsuri's sudden sad voice make me oofed out loud. Knowing her love for Sara make this so sad :(
At the same time, Matsuri talking with Senchou about this might be the best thing since she experienced the same situation back in school.
@Alvi Syahri This was recorded on May 1.
"I cant focus on someone if there in Hololive"
>Gawr Gura has entered the chat
I guess Gura has some separation, since she's from the EN branch
@@sanny8716 Nah, Matsuri is just a fucking simp
Knowing these two that they read loli doujins and knows Quzilax feels right and wrong at the same time
scary
"What's ur favourite loli"
Me:kobayashi kanna,sagiri and the platelets...
Matsuri:Nozomi from ecchi manga
Me:SHE'S OUT OF THE LEAGUE!
Girls talking about being lolicon :
Chat about their favorite loli, artist, manga, doujin
Guys talking about being lolicon :
Guy 1 : "I like loli"
Guy 2 : " *FBI ! ! !* "
Guy 3 : " *FBI ! ! !* "
Guy 4 : " *FBI ! ! !* "
its the same stupid meme repeated over and over. its so annoying
*Insert we will lock you by fubuki here*
@raynaldo arlen k.eman send invite owowhatsthis#7389 👀
@raynaldo arlen k.eman nice try FBI
You know you've a lolicon degenerate when you know Quzilax-sensei.... I hate myself...
I don't even know them, that just means Matsuri is in the deepest of the deep
@@mrchezsandvich.4096 i don't either (not a lolicon) but on another matsuri video she started talking about her favourite h manga and said one or two by this quizlax, people in the comment helpfully provided the six digits as well as short descriptions and the tags were some of the most heinous stuff i've heard. Loli is arguably the least bad part about it.
@@bonogiamboni4830 True that. I got the codes for some of them and holy jeez man. I don't mind the content but Matsuri really is a full on lolicon lol
Their levels of drawing are so high like i can't even draw Frogadier with a side by side picture of Frogadier or maybe i just really succ at drawing
Ngl, for someone who's female and a degenerate myself, I'd totally love to befriend both Matsuri and Marine or at least have someone who's like them. It's just hard to act innocent around my irl female friends when I'm as degenerate as these two 😂
Maybe one reason why these two were the members I focused more when I got into the hole followed by Coco and Haachama.
Same XD
Sometimes you just really want friends who can vibe on the same wavelength as you
This is yabai duo I can feel the degeneracy in my veins
insert "men discussing porn meme" here.
this was a video for intellectuals.
Why would you find it impressive for people to watch porn?
Matsuri is one of my people and must be protected at all costs.
I love it when they talk about things like this because you know that they really are otakus and lewd especially matsuri
I applause you for including pics from those "manga"
Well my favorite loli isnt even the canon version of herself.
Loli Tsubasa from Monogatari
Awwe that ending “you’re in that” that was sweet lol
Thank you! Everybody talking about all the culture in this video, but among all the degeneracy there was a heartwarming moment at the end. I think Matsuri meant it too. In the bad timeline where Marine isn't Hololive, Matsuri would surely be a fan of hers.
Yea was disappointed I haven’t seen anyone bring up it up
Me: haha funi funi lolicon matsuri
Matsuri: starts listing out hentai books
Me: wait no this isnt funny anymore
S T O P
No, keep going, we need sources
Quzillax is too dark... geiger counter was horrible...
@@cheeseball2967 The fucked up it is the hotter it is too
So why do people still like them?
@@kingchickenwing4887 Because tastes
(1:50) I sense a disturbance in the force
(2:28) Correction, it's Quzilax... and I just confirmed my hypothesis... she mentioned it before, I believe she said her favorite eromanga was Geiger Counter...
(2:50) WTF!?!? WHAT DO YOU MEAN PURE LOVE!?
Got kind of heavy when Marine accidentally brought up Hoshikawa. It definitely seemed like she asked without really thinking about it expecting a loli meme answer (Luna or Shion maybe). After a beat she realizes she fucked up because of course it's Hoshikawa and Matsuri's crush is either a deep AF character bit or a really sad one sided thing.
Yeah man that was some major oof vibes
It's one-sided and unrequited. Also Hoshikawa is strictly heterosexual so she never had a chance in the first place.
Comic Lo? Ah, she truly is a lolicon.
No one's talking bout the drawing, but they did the head and hands first, then the body without a sketch... HOW DO YOU DO THAT???
practice
With enough practice and experience...you can do that..pretty easy tbh
Visualization. It's a skill you get for practicing and drawing alot with proper anatomy. I mean, you just draw each part but your mind/eyes are already filling in the blanks.
There's also a tutorial for exercising such skill. I think Ethan Baker was the one who mentioned about those stuff.
Edit:
Ethan Becker. Dammit auto correct.
@@FSenseii
I see... maybe this is what I need to reach my 2nd stage!
I'll be back from my 3 years of training with Ethan sensei!
@@tofugakiraidesu good luck! Ethan is actually great when it comes to breaking down art. He recommends other good artists and you can fetch some good stuff for improving.
There's also Mikey Mega but mostly focuses on a fanservicey style. But still not bad per se, if you want to draw sexy girls or something. Otherwise, he makes useful tuts that's actually better than other videos.
Gesture/figure drawing is a big help when it comes to filling in the blanks btw. So watch out for gesture/figure drawing tips.
the crossover we all needed
Matsuri sound sad when she mention Hoshikawa.....
"The video title is probably exaggerating. It's probably just light etchi stuff."
*Opens up Google*
"Jesus Christ."
"Matsuri-chan, what's you favority type of loli?"
Oh god, here we go...
Now i understand why the stream just got cut off halfway, i presume is this?
The boys talking about whos the best girl: *almost killing each other*
The boys talking about lolis:
Nekuro Shouichi *the girls talking about lolis
@@tdwl2802 im sorry to say this but they are males in real life
Nekuro Shouichi Even better then
i see youre a man of culture as well
2:50 - 3:20 Damn just listen to how Passionate Matsuri is when talking about her favorite Loli Hent@i.
Matsuri : I love hoshikawa sara
Fubuki : i'm not happy with that answer
at first I thought marine might be thinking of loli as a fashion statement, then I was proven wrong, she is a full on intellectual.
0:15 is that Matsuri's stream?
It's deleted by youtube? lmao
The drawing they're doing is adorable.
They even talked about LO magazine... They were too far in this stream
When 2 Gods are speaking bible languages where human can't understands :
That moment when you look up the sauce but it turns out you already read it all a while back.
Anything Matsuri lays her eyes upon.... it is LOLI
SO WHO'S THE GOOD SAMARITAN WHO WILL PROVIDE ALL THE SAUCES?!
This is the discussion between Woman of culture and Lolicon.
Me: *Sitting there just to watch cuz you get out-league by them*
Matsuri: I like Vtubers that have their own belief, that they do whatever they want - like they say "I just want to do this"
me: well uh... I think Matsuri would like Mea a lot.... probably.
Matsuri and Senchou doing as a huge favour by dropping all the good sauces.
おしっこ先生という漫画がやはり一番好き
I like how I can see that despite that's the same picture, they're in different styles, there's differentiating characteristics in terms of the eyes.
Matsuri is the queen of degenerancy ALL HAIL THE QUEEN
I just realized that Senchou and Hoshikawa have the same eye color just in opposite eyes
Anyone else bothered by the fact the subtitles are not neatly at the bottom but instead around the person who says them? Made it much harder to follow personally.
Ah, a truly intellectual's debate. Nothing quite says high culture!
A little too extreme for me after seeing the glimpses of those said pieces
Yamete!!, you’re taking us to jail
As a man of culture I have to support women of culture as well, it is my duty.
if 2 guys having a conversation like this it would be very yabai
Just like Geiger Counter, I'm pretty sure I've read Loli Tomodachi and have subsequently purged all memory of it, because I think I've seen that page before lmao
I can see why Matsuri loves them though, the lolis Quzilax draws are god tier cute.
3:22 so it appears I have competition
*Aggressively takes off fedora*
Time to research now.
😏👌
I love Matsuri. I hope she can always be this way, but I have a feeling she's going to get in a little too much trouble someday.
At this point I'mma call you the Johnny Test of Hololive Fansubs cuz I always be hearing whip cracks
So what's the hentai with Kobayashi Nozomi called? Couldn't find anything and my research came to a stall.
I'm glad I have something in common with my favorite Vtubers ;)
the level of confidence to talk about depraved shit like that is off the charts
It's like my illusion of Japanese prudence and girls being flustered at the mere mention of "chinchin" is being shattered by each second I am watching these Vtubers
dude, don't compare otaku with regular people
Marine is young in spirit
I got out-degenerated by two anime waifus.
Unexpectedly wholesome ending.
They are truly the most cultured of hololive
Yagoo is laying in coma in a hospital rn
I think I actually happened to catch this bit live and just thought of course they'd be talking about lolis
Interested in this removed video now.
Tsk the links are incomplete. We need to link to the manga too. Oh wait why is the FBI outside my house? No wait please this is a misunderstanding! This is for educational purpose I swear!
Think we can commission Matsuri fav Doujinshi artist to do a Matsuri loli hentai manga and send it to her?
I have many questions and the answer to all of them is "just hololive things"
I swear these two are a *dangerous* pair.
I knew they were degenerates...BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THE DEPTHS OF THEIR DEGENERACY OMFG WTH???
Loli tomodachi is a little much for me because the art style makes em look REALLY YOUNG