Difference Between Hybrid Tea and Floribunda Roses
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- Let me show you the difference between a hybrid tea rose and a floribunda: the two most dominant classes of modern roses. Here I'll compare the flowering structure, shape. fragrance and size as well as the overall growing qualities of the shrubs.
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For me, your channel is addictive because you're so informative with just the subject matter I'm looking for. Thanks again Jason, I appreciate you and your postings.
@Sky Z totally feel the same way, I'm addicted to this channel. You nailed it with your comment.
Man that's one beautiful landscape, what a place to have a rose farm.
Thanks! As always, clear, concise and really helpful, especially for beginning rose fanciers!
Another GREAT informative video Jason, always appreciate your posts !
That was a really great explanation of the differences thanks so much
I had a vague idea of the differences between the floribunda and the tea thanks for bringing the concept into full flower.🌹
Thanks Jason, just what I was looking for! I really appreciate all the videos and your willingness to transfer your knowledge. I hope to order a couple of roses and visit the farm sometime soon.
Your videos are tutorials and a great source of information for an amateur like me. Thanks, Jason.
Thanks so much Jason. Looking forward to seeing more videos on roses.
Thanks Jason. I was confused with these two you cleared it.
Thanks so much for this Jason. I love roses, but didn’t know the lineage of the various groups. Your schematic helps a lot. As always, your videos are both enjoyable and very educational!
Thank you so much!!❤️Can’t wait to see your shrub roses video as I’m ordering roses and not finding much detailed quality information in the internet about them!
Thanks so much for your videos! I love how you explain everything
Thank you for sharing! You have an extensive knowledge of roses and I appreciate your videos.
Living in Alberta, I watched my dad gamely plant a single Peace Rose every spring all the while knowing it would die over the winter. I decided that tea roses weren’t for me, despite their beauty. I make due with my ferocious Explorer and Morden varieties that bless me with blooms despite the horrendous winter temperatures we can have. I have tremendous respect for a rose that can survive -45 C. 😊🌹
You bet - those have earned their spot in the garden!
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm hey buddy you think you can grow tea roses in minneapolis MN
Thank you, your videos are so informative, helpful and easy to understand and follow.
Very informative! Waiting for the next one. Thank you.
Always enjoy your videos and learning so much about roses. Thanks.
I'm so glad you're finding them useful Rick!
I love watching your channel Jason.. you explain each part so clearly and all of it is so informative.
Thanks for your good work
My pleasure. Thanks so much for the feedback Roshan
Very amazing video Jason, I like this video a lot.👍
Thank you yet again … the best place to go for superb advice …. 🌹
Thanks Hazel
As always super helpful, concise, and enjoyable to listen to. I genuinely appreciate your content and presentation style.
Thanks for the feedback Jay!
An excellent explanation with examples. Thank you.
I am so glad you did this video! Definitely looking forward to your other videos explaining the growing habits of other types of roses.
Thank you Jason!
I love your channel and how you’re so to the point. So sincere also. No drama.
Thanks so much
I bought 3 withe Iceberg 2 days ago and love them...I can't wait to buy the burgundy version 🤗
Thank you! This is very informative and succinct lecture about rose. I love this style of lesson from your channel. Thank for your hard work and keep it up.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Thank you again! Wonderful information.
Just starting growing roses. I find that I gravitate towards the Hybrid Tea. Anyway, thank you so much for the information. You explained many of the things that I was questioning.
Thank you Jason, really interesting! I love roses and when I lived in southern California I had some gorgeous ones. Here in Georgia I struggle with them a lot!🤗💗🤗
Great tutorial as always thank you
Thank you for sharing this information 🙏 😊
'South Africa' is a great rose, just like 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦! Sunny, warm, glowing flowers, that doesn't fade too drastically. Even under the hot African sun. She's a healthy and reliable rose, and a standout in the garden. Thanks for the special mention! 😜🌹☀️
Thanks Marthin. I take it you're familiar with both the rose and the country! It's on my bucket list.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm SA is home! 😜 A very fitting rose named after a special country. 💛
Love your videos - I appreciate your knowledge!
Thanks Dawn.
Thanks this is very informative!
Thank you for this incredibly informative video!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching
Outra aula excelente, dá uma boa idéia sobre os tipos des rosas
Great Info thank you
Now I know we have 2 Floribunda in the garden and which they are, thank you.
Thank you Jason❄️🌷💚🙃
I’m looking forward to your shrub rose video ❄️🌷💚🙃
Wow just what I wanted to know!!! Thank you so much 😊
My pleasure Gloria
Jason, my friend, I JUST bought an Angel Face rose and planted it yesterday in the afternoon. Ive been looking up info about it and whatnot, and ive been watching a bunch of your videos and seeing you mention it was nice. Keep up the great work, excellent video
Thanks - great rose!
More on the Roses please! Such a vast area of learning and such an amazing plant,
Will do. Thanks Harold.
Woops. I probably should have watched before i planted my four new roses. 😊
Interesting video thank you 😍
Awesome video really enjoyed it! Make videos talking about what’s in bloom in your farm and what the rose is like 👍
Thanks Jason.
It’s great that you talked about some roses that do well in our area. I like roses that are bigger in sizes though so some of DA or hybrid teas would fit my criteria better. Would be able to talk about some that do well in our areas, especially the ones that are more disease resistant, easy to care for and flowers freely. Thanks!
So well explained. Can't help to push the like button :)
Thanks J L
Awesome video, thank you!
You're very welcome!
Good day Jason! I mix floribundas with hybrid teas and David Austins. I enjoy the mixed look of all of them in my formal rose garden. I find that my grafted hybrid teas are a bit less hardy, as you said. My floribundas are tough, especially my Julia Child. It is my favorite floribunda. 🌹💖
Thanks Jason..I just got a Joseph's coat rose I'm looking forward to seeing her grow this yr.
Nice - excellent colorful rose!
The hybrid tea roses are my choice because they can go in my vase and look like they came from a florist shop but actually came from my own garden. I already know the answer to this question but I would like to know about other groups that I haven't heard about before until I found your channel.
wow beautiful
I love your chanal,it is the best❤
I have both floribunda roses and a hybrid tea rose. The iceberg rose is a floribunda and smells great. But when it comes to good smells, my double delight hybrid tea rose floors the iceberg. Hybrid tea roses are usually smell sensational.🙂❤️
This is a great video. I bought 2 Outrageous Floribunda (JACzap) roses from J&P 2 years ago. They are a beautiful orange color. The funny thing is, they check almost every box that you mentioned for a hybrid tea rose and virtually none for the floribundas. It easily grew to 6-7 feet tall with long stems and medium sized solitary flowers. The flowers are very fragrant. It is a repeat bloomer, though not as prolific as others I have. I’m overall very happy with the rose, but the one characteristic of the floribunda that I was expecting, the clusters of flowers, seems to be absent in both of my plants. Thank you for your channel. I always learn a ton from your posts!
Thanks Justin. I haven't grown 'Outrageous' but that's interesting to hear. It goes to the point of the interbreeding, and I wonder how they make the final call on the class. It's only declared parent is a floribunda ('Summer Fashion') which is itself 1/2 hybrid tea. We don't know the other parent, but it could also have strong HT lineage, making it no surprise that that offspring could express that side of the family.
Nice video. Pretty cool there's an amateur rose on the market like that one. As a side note, floribundas and shrub roses confused me for the longest time. If I'm being completely honest, they still do lol. Every mature bush I see from either class looks basically the same. I'd be interested in seeing how those two compare in your eyes.
Oh my! Every time you said "cluster flower", my brain heard "cluster f...." and thought of a completely different phrase. Dang!! 🤣
Great...
I’m your silent viewer. I love roses and I learned a lot from your videos
Thanks so much! Good to hear from you
i love the polys..more cold hardy and fragrant most often!!!!
Thanks Rourke!
Can you make some video about spray roses...
This is great info Jason. I have bad news, about 75% of my 60 roses I planted last year look dead. I bought most of them from Tractor Supply and I noticed this year that the same brand Roses are not labeled for Zones. I'm sure that is because they will not survive in Zone 5 but they are selling them here. Well lesson learned, don't buy if not labeled unless you are planting them as annuals.
Agh. Sorry to hear it - and it is a little disappointing that they won't label the hardiness zones. The zone ratings may not be perfect (like you may still need to protect marginal varieties) but it at least gives you some idea where to begin!
Always helpful, Jason, Thank you - Hope Spring is prevailing! Yes, I get confused about shrub roses - Say you inherit a garden - how in simple terms do you go about 'classifying' your roses? I've got floribunda clear (abundant flowers!) but when things start climbing & the blooms aren't like Bonica or Cecile Brunner, Pierre de Ronsard or Iceberg I get a bit lost...
Sometimes I even question the value of the rose "classes" because for every rule, there seem to be so many exceptions. It's a matter of what you're going to *use* the classification for: if it's to sort out care requirements (pruning timing & severity) it turns out that the careful observation of the growing and flowering (and how the plant responds to your initial pruning) will give you most of the information you need. If it's to try to narrow the plant down for a specific identification, the class information can be useful, but is so mixed at times that it can also throw you off track. The classifications are just a way, it seems to me, for humans to wrap their minds around the nature of these roses, but nature doesn't always fit into tidy rules or boxes.
Great video Jason iam doing a small rose garden with maybe 4-5 roses would like fragrance ones is it best to do them in the same color or in a mix of colors
Sounds great Val. The color mixing is all a matter of personal style and preferences.
Hey Jason. I was wondering if when you put the boxes if information if you could make the font bigger? I am visually impaired and even with my glasses I cant make out what it says. It would be a huge help and I would be extremely grateful. Thank you so much.
Thanks. I'll see what I can do when I edit the next video. One other option is to manage the magnification on your device - depending on how you're watching it. In my browser it's a fairly easy ctrl + or crtl - to quickly adjust the size.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm unfortunately all i have is my phone at the moment. Financially the internet is out of my reach. I tried the accessibility feature on the phone but it only goes so big. Lol. I am as blind as a bat lol.
Great episode! Any way to get your family tree of roses as a PDF, so I could study it more closely?
Thanks Pat. It's from this video: ua-cam.com/video/1g0Dl7jap0o/v-deo.html and I do give a few long shots of the document, but you just have to put up with my nattering in the background (or hit mute!). I don't offer the pdf but there's a link in the description if you're looking for a printed copy.
I love your channel! Thank you for all the information you share. I have shared your channel with several friends. I have an iceberg rose gifted to me & newly planted last year. Now that it is spring it has grown exponentially with a taller strong center cane. Is it possible to prune (at an appropriate time) away the lower stems and turn it into a “standard”? I planted it near the candy tuft that was already in place, not realizing how big the rose would get. Both plants are crowding each other but both seem to be thriving in their spot. If the iceberg rose were shaped into a standard the area would look more pleasing, but I certainly do not want to harm the rose!
Thanks Jill. I'm pretty sure you won't cause any harm in trying, but from what I've seen it's pretty hard to maintain a standard shape without it being initially grafted and trained in that form.
Oh THANK YOU SO MUCH for replying! I think I had better go with my initial plan which is to cut back the candy tuft in favor of the rose❣️I can’t tell you how grateful I am for your responding with your advise & expertise‼️ I have a rose bush that was planted by the original owners of my house in 1963. Just this past weekend some friends visiting from out of town asked what the name of the rose is. Since I have no idea, I gave them each some cuttings and told them to go to your channel for the best instructions to propagate. I know they will find it as informative & inspirational as I do! Continued success!
Double delights grow amazingly here in the Willamette Valley of Oregon. I just bought two double delight standards! You must try and get "Distant Drums". It is my newest love, due to the morphing color all season and the warm peachy pink, mauve, cream and brown tones. Check it out!
Thanks Mary. Yes, 'Distant Drums' has impressed me a lot (but not on its own roots!).
Hi I live in northern PA
Zone 5b are there any steps i can take to prevent black spot frome even starting in my roses !
Thanks so much
It's pretty difficult to exclude entirely - it's in the air, and susceptible varieties will almost always pick up some level of infection during the season. The best you can usually achieve is to start the season relatively clean, and after that, a preventive spray of potassium bicarbonate every week or two on the most susceptible plants can help to reduce severity.
can you do a video describing grandiflora ?
I might revisit them a little bit, but for the most part just know that they're a hybrid between the HTs and Floribundas with both large flowers and a cluster-flowering manner.
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😊 Hello Jason!
Thank You So Much For Sharing Your Skills! I Love Your Video So Much! I learned so many things from you.
I hope you will make more videos.
In two years I’ve been moving to Florida, I was told I cannot grow roses in Florida? Please let me know.
I alway grow roses in containers &
Plants. The Roses Is One Of My Favorites Flowers. I always want it longstem roses. Do you have long stem roses?
I am looking forward to hear from you.
Thank You So Much!
God Bless.
Stay Safe!
Thanks Maria. There are loads of good rose growers and rose gardens in Florida! Best of luck
Was wondering if there is something I can add to my roses to help improve their fragrance? I have 4 very old hybrid tea rose bushes that have seemed to of lost their fragrance over the last few seasons. I live in N. Idaho where we start to have our first buds come on late may and bloom well into September. Thank you
No, other than just selecting roses noted for strong fragrance and growing them in good conditions
I can't imagine how hard it is waiting for your roses to start flushing and making ready for flowers this time of year.
The anticipation must be intense.
I've only had my 6 plants barely a month and a half and the wait for each one to flower is killing me.🤪😆😅😂🤣
Actually Don Juan flowered first with 1 flower and hip, Olympiad has given 3 flowers (the third this week), 1 White Honor rose just opened a week ago, and 1 Mr. Lincoln opened this Wednesday. I'm impatiently waiting for Queen Elizabeth and Carabia.
Of course mine are all young plants, so the anticipation is more of a confirmation that each plant is what it's label says as well as survival. The good news is that they all look healthy. I think Don Juan is going to develop just fine, that first flower was definitely small, but the hip and stem seem to be doing just fine.
Looks like I will be reviewing many of your previous videos to become reacquainted with all of these wonderful flowers.
Today's video shows me just how much has changed and yet stayed the same over the years.
Jason, you are a fantastic resource for the rose community around the world.👌
Thanks so much - and I'm glad to hear your new additions are starting to put on a show!
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Slowly but surely.👍
Hopefully your show will begin soon as well.🤙
Hungry hens tend to unearth newly planted bulbs and rose bushes, so I've started planting them in used tires. I noticed you have a new rows of radials as well. Do you do anything particular in the painting process to help the paint adhere? Thom
Thanks - no just exterior latex.
I am looking for a rose from 1976a Razzle Dazzle- (red). It was my moms favorite and I’m trying to find one. Any suggestions?
Sorry it doesn't ring a bell from any of my regular sources.
Can you plant these to different types side by side in a garden?
Yes, they're fine together. The HTs tend to be a little taller, but who says they have to match?
Jason...Could you talk about how climbing roses with medium-sized tea flowers in clusters are classified?
Sorry for my bad English. I am from Brazil.
No worries. If it's a repeat-bloomer it's most likely to be classified as a modern climber. There are classes like the teas & tea-noisettes that can also have climbing varieties, but unless you know the cultivar it's hard to say for certain.
Great video Jason. I was browsing your website looking for roses. I noticed the box only has "within Canada". Is there another option to purchase some of your rose varieties ?
No, we're a local nursery mainly. But if you're in the US there are loads of other options for mail order roses.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm absolutely. I like supporting the little guys and up and comers lol.
My rose garden is a combination of teas and floribundas. Last year I had a rash of witches broom on the floribundas but not the teas. Evan thou they were right next to each other? I do not know if you have had this desise but would be interested in your thoughts or experience.
Hi Glenn. When you say witches broom, it makes me think of Rose Rosette Virus. You may want to google some pics to see if it matches what you saw. I'm not sure of anything else that looks quite the same. If it is RRV, that's not good news for those roses. Because it's a virus, there's no effective treatment except removal.
I have a random question for you
What do you think of rosa champneys pink cluster?
Hi Jerome. I haven't grown Champney's Pink - the closest I have is Blush Noisette, which is I think an early seedling of Champney's. I think it's wonderful!
My david Austin's are spindly. Planted last yr. They get a good 5 hrs of afternoon sun. But maybe not enough?
That's not too far from what they want. If you have a sunnier location, it might be worth a move, but otherwise I'd just give them good care where they are and a little bit of time - roses don't always show their best in their first year.
I have a hybrid tea rose which was planted last fall and growing well. I just noticed a very red stem growing from the bottom and looks to be from same canes (I can’t tell if there is a graft line or it). Is this normal? It does not have excessive thorns but just very red. All other areas of the plant look fine. Should I wait for more signs before determining it as rosette disease?
Very red stems are okay - good in fact! That's fresh vigorous growth. You should only be concerned if you see the "witch's broom" effect, or outrageous prickles, or if the red color persists for weeks without the stems ripening to green.
Hi Jason, does rose bud out later if the winter was colder? My roses are late this year provided that last winter in Toronto was terrible.
Yes, they'll take their cues from the late winter weather.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thanks. Guess I'll be more patient then.
If you live Fragrant Cloud, then consider its parent, Prima Ballerina by Tantau, a truly wonderful rose.
Thanks. I'll look out for it.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Prima Ballerina is a parent of Fragrant Cloud, which I should have said early. It’s an interesting lineage, Fragrant Cloud is in turn the parent of Just Joey and Prima Ballerina is a child of Peace. I was hoping that perhaps you could make a video on roses with the best fruity fragrance. All the best
Oye, podrías hablar acerca de cómo hacer mis propias variedades?
Here you go: ua-cam.com/video/olFFFYW1a44/v-deo.html
Thank you, Jason, for the clarification between these two classes. I always thought the Grandiflora 'Queen Elizabeth' to be more a tall version of a floribunda rather than a hybrid tea. What are your thoughts?
The rose that made the Grandiflora class! I'm sure the American Rose Society agreed with you to some degree, because it was so popular and they wouldn't leave it as a hybrid tea (even though it didn't quite fit the mold of the floribundas). The lines between these classes will, I'm sure, be blurred beyond recognition eventually and will only be useful for historical reference. Seems to me if I were breeding roses I'd follow the path of Ralph Moore, and pick parents from all over the classes (hybrid musks, minis, shrubs, old garden roses, and of course HT's and floribundas) - then leave it to those inclined to sort out my mess and give it a "class"
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm, worth noting that the classification Grandiflora isn't recognized in most of the world.
Good point! It makes some sense to me to stick with either cluster or solitary flowering modern roses, if nothing else for the sake of simplicity.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm God Save The 'Queen Elizabeth'. 😊
This isn’t related to this video but I have a question that has been in my head since a video you did on propagation. You had said that some roses are easier to propagate than others. I have found Bonica propagates easily for me! Friends asked what ones propagate easier so wondering what other varieties are good for beginners. I’ve suggested trying hydrangeas too.
Yes, Bonica for sure. Also another Meilland rose: Alba Meidiland. Sally Holmes, Ghislaine de Feligonde. If we're including other landscape shrubs: gooseberry, currant, butterfly bush, elder, willow.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank-you I will pass that on!
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My husband was digging posts holes for a fence and in one of the scoops of dirt I found what I thought was a dog tag; Turned out it was a Showbiz Floribunda tag with the Patened number on it. I looked it up and it was a 1985 award winning rose. I have 3 that I had no idea the name or variety when I bought my place 6 years ago. It is pretty cool to put a name to these roses.
I do want to move 2 of them as I have hydrangea and rhododendrons over crowding the space. Can I move them now?
If you're in a similar climate to mine, right now (spring) is a great time to transplant.
I know absolutely nothing about roses, so I'm just learning. Just wondering if any variety is particularly drawing for pollinators.
My absolute favorite for pollinators is Darlow's Enigma - but many of the hybrid musk roses are fairly good too.
Awesome. Thanks!
Hi Jason how do you know all the names of rose varieties? Where can I download a complete list?
Hi Raymund - better than a list is a database of rose varieties searchable by category and other growing characteristics: www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you very much Jason! See you in the near future!
What is he Polyantha rose?
Where do buy multiflora rootstocks?
Sorry Miles - I don't do any grafting, so I'm not sure where you'd get the rootstock.
I have a spot in my garden where I've been trying to to grow roses. So far I've only tried hybrid tea. But they seem to last one season and then they either died or stop blooming all together. I'm wondering whether it's because of the other plants I have around where the Roses planted. I have a yew on one side and a ground cover evergreen on the other.
Could that be the problem?
Only if you suspect strong root competition. They're not generally fussy about their neighbors.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you for the help. I absolutely love your channel. I like how informative it is, and how straightforward. A lot of other channels just give superficial information but yours really is very helpful.
which roses have flowers from the very bottom of the bush?
Many repeat bloomers (both hybrid tea and floribunda) will bloom down low with appropriate pruning, although I'd have to give floribundas the edge in this regard.
I have two roses. A white one and a red one. That's as far as I went with it. I bought them from a catalogue because they looked nice.
I wonder if you have done a video on licencing or restrictions on breeding registered varieties for sale. I know with strawberries and raspberries it can be hugely expensive to buy the rights to reproduce commercial varieties (thing actual millions) and even dearer still to buy a cultivar so you can reproduce it exclusively. I'd be interested to hear what situations you have run into with your own nursery.
Cheers for the content as usual.
Thanks Brad. I did a couple of (older) videos on plant patents & naming: ua-cam.com/video/940Plg82sfM/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/w9VWtoyJIl4/v-deo.html in my nursery I stick to propagating plants outside of the patent period (after 20 years from the introduction date). Within roses anyway, that's a large group. If I'm selling newer plants, I buy them through other growers so that I don't have to manage licensing. For a small backyard nursery, I don't feel I want to take on the extra administration of these licensing agreements/royalties. I have the advantage of working in an area where there a lots of other growers - so it's relatively easy to supplement my assortment with patented varieties from other growers if it makes financial sense.