@@sSteppingStones If you're not playing the game nothing's stopping you from moving on and I wish you well. But sticking around the peripheral and shouting "Game sucks!" at anyone who is enjoying it is not a good look. You're kinda proving the point GeeNee is making with the whole "Dead...to me" line.
@@JonBardcore SoT means/meant a lot to some competitive players. It took rare years to make the game as casual friendly as possible by lowering the skill ceiling/trying to kill this part of their community. Over those years a lot of people spent hundreds if not thousands of hours in the game. It's not that easy to completely ignore something that had such an impact on you for that long. Some of the people who sound negative in comments like Bee here just want to see the game doing better.
@@Hap_ crazy thing is these are the constant players that have stayed for the game mostly because the PvP is something fresh and not just like what cod is and that there's a little strategy involved, it's a shame that this company doesn't care for those people as the ones they cater to will leave after 50 hours of gameplay because there's nothing to do after hitting PL
I literally played for the first time in 9 months last week. I got 95k on my 1 man sloop after 2 hrs of not seeing anyone, suddenly got chased by a blood thristy trio when near port, dumped my loot in my dingy, swung around the island breaking line of sight, and took off on my dingy in the opposite direction with all my loot as i watched the trio chase my empty ship to the horizon and beyond. Laughed my arse off for a solid 5 minutes. This game is still fire
Something that's always important to keep in mind is that the peak concurrent player count for any given day or month only shows how many people are online at the SAME TIME. It doesn't show how many INDIVIDUALS come online at any point throughout a day or month. There are plenty of people who don't play every day, and people don't all log on at the same time. All game companies keep track of the total individuals who log on at least once during a day/week/month, and those numbers are far more indicative of a game's population than the concurrent player count. That 400,000 number seems realistic to me as the number of individuals logging on at least once per month, and that's DEFINITELY not a dead game!
Yupppp, "concurrents" always trips people up. That 386K actives number is almost certainly *just* based on Steam - it's pretty easy to extrapolate 14K peak concurrents out to 200-400K monthly uniques. Devs have regularly said it gets "millions" of MAUs. So at least over 1M but in the past on big releases (like Disney Pirates) it hit nearly 5M uniques!
@@mrblob107 Monthly logins is a great way to measure monthly logins tho. And Steam gives a rough idea of daily concurrents, including historic activity over time. Do you actually have a point you're trying to make, or...?
3:15 They stopped supporting arena and said they were done updating it. Then they removed chat entirely, so the social aspect of it was completely gone. I don't think the lack of desire for competition was the reason for it dying off.
I feel like it isn't dead, just the community shifted in a way that led to many old players quitting the game (but new ones joining in their place). For me SoT lost its charm when seasons came
The seasonal model in general is one of the worst things to happen to games imo. Fomo and microtransactions run rampant nowadays. Sot is still fun to play but I agree seasons are not good for the game
@@zeeboss7553 sorry if I didn't make it clear. It's not the seasonal models themselves that I have a problem with, it's just that the community adapted to them in a weird way which kinda made the game lose its casual charm
I saw alot of the old players complaining they were changing double gunning mechanics and how they didn't want to have to use a sword again. People like Theb destroying casuals and then complaining Rare changed something they had been exploiting for years.
While the game definitely isn't dead, and dying is probably too strong a word, you can see player numbers dropping over time. Season 10 had one of the lowest player counts on an update day of all time, which is not a good thing to see for the game's health. Steam charts is not an accurate representation of the exact number of people playing, but it's a good indicator of how many people are playing compared to previous points in time.
Xbox numbers could be going up for all we know, would that be proof that the game is recovering? Not really. All I care about is how many players can fit on one server. If they only had 50 total players at a time and they could all be on the same server I’d play more than I do now.
His legend gets it. Competitive gaming is why gaming doesn't feel the same these days. Too man tournaments, too many kids spending all day on the game to play competitively.
I just stopped playing because of how toxic people are. Often times they are on alt accounts and because of this, reporting their accounts does nothing effective :/
He nails the key takeaway: Sea of Thieves is not a competitive PvP game. It's also not marketed as such. So, holding SoT to standards Rare's not even trying to reach is asking for disappointment. It's no wonder a crowd of these folks echo themselves into these arguments of "dead game."
Well, actually it WAS marketed as a pvp game for majority of its launch. Pvp content was consistently promoted in sot trailers for a long while until around when the Pirates life tall tale series was released and they roped in a whole bunch of new players. Because of this massive increase due to a story release, their entire focus shifted from pirate game based on combat and player interaction, to pirate game based on short story missions and pve grinding.
@le_big_monke543 notice how he said COMPETITIVE PvP game? It was marketed as a pirate game that had pirate elements such as yknow stealing shit. But a hard-core PvP experience was never what rare offered with the game. At the end of the day it's a sandbox game with optional PvP and because it's a sandbox some people will love the PvP and some will hate it. For a very long time PvP elements were added to the game with each update. I agree a new ship or type of cannonball/weapon would be cool but at the end of the day it's rares game and they want to tell a naritive and that's what they are focusing on. And like it or not alot of people are excited for that narrative and more PvE stuff to do.
Skull & Bones is dog shit. Even though I do like SoT PvP, I don't like that I'm doing some 2h session and then a Brig Trio comes and makes my 2h a complete waste of time.
I have 1500 hours in the game, after a 2 month break (with sporadic play prior to that), a week into season 9 and I called it quits. Haven’t played since but still love what SoT could be. I just don’t think Rare are actually dedicated to making SoT the best version of itself it can be. We’ve all seen their priorities over the years, the fact that it took 5 and a half years to even work on hit reg, only for it to come out worse than before, speaks volumes (just one example in a long list of many). But as long as we have “new” recolored cosmetics in the store, we’re in it to win it, baby! Amirite?! 😒 Watching streamers cruise around for 2 hours and only encounter one boat, then sink that boat in 14 seconds (while getting hit regged out of their minds, then insert salt mine from brand new pirates who don’t understand the game yet), then back to server hopping for 1-3 hours, rinse repeat, also speaks volumes. Take all that for what you will.
hitreg isn't worse, that was the server stability issues. They said it on a recent video. As someone who has played 2400+ hours, I don't think you like the game that much, if you need the devs working on something new to "spark" your experience.
@@vandrar3n “they said” lol, gotta love when naive people who don’t know don’t know what they’re talking let you know who they are right off the rip. 👍 (They’re claiming that shooting a pirate and that shot hitting, but not registering, ISN’T a hit registration issue, which it is by definition for those keeping track, it’s actually a “server stability issue” because “they said so”, it DEFINITELY CAN’T be the thing they claimed they fixed but turns out it’s not actually fixed but they can’t admit that because holy shit if they did, so they shuck the blame onto some other broken feature, since they have a laundry list to choose from. It DEFINITELY can’t be that, huh-uh, no way! If they actually had 2400 hours in the game they’d be FULLY aware of the insane amount of time Rare has “said” something then went completely the opposite direction or have been caught dead to rights lying: “we will never bring back hard earned time limited cosmetics, as that would ruin their value and achievement” *brings back time limited cosmetics right after, then continues doing so, claiming they never said that*, just one example in another long list) Edit: also hard to “spark interest” when the only thing I wanna do in this game is fight other pirates and my two options are: sit underwater in a queue or 15 minutes, sink a some brand new guy who accidentally voted on hourglass within 5, rinse repeat, OR I can sail around for a couple hours in a dead game looking for someone else to shoot a cannonball at. There’s a reason I quit a week into season 9, literally couldn’t find people to play against and got bored af doin uncontested fofs. And looking at season 10, it’s the exact same except empty fotds instead of fofs. VERY exciting gameplay. Edit 2: peoples’ biggest complaint about the new siren song event? Not enough people contesting it and they’re bored af. Go figure. 🙄
@@vandrar3n i know shit because I actually know shit, not just claim to know it because I heard it from someone else. I love how you think ANY amount of time doing something automatically makes you an expert (that’s called a “call to authority”, look it up, when instead of using your expertise to prove your point or support your argument, you use the FACT that you have “expertise”, in this case purely hours played, as your supporting argument, it’s a hilarious strategy used by real 1heads when they get backed into a corner or defensive about topics they’re passionate about, but aren’t smart enough or articulate enough to actual come to the defense of. It’s actual clown shit 🤡), when in the exact same comment you prove how very little actual knowledge you have. Absolutely ironic, but I somehow suspect you’re completely unaware that. I’ve met pirates with 3000 hours in the game that don’t know what dummy sails are. It’s hilarious that hours played is your metric for expertise, that’s some shit a child would do, homie. 😂 The other term I’d point out is called “pissing contest”, look that up too.
For the millionth time: Arena stopped because RARE wanted it to stop. Players declined because Rare stopped updating it and the mode became literally, LITERALLY unplayable. People got tired of getting kicked out during battles or them never starting in the first place, so they quit trying to play. I was in the lobby and it was full to the brim and the match would not start, then we would get kicked and have to start the wait again. I was there. Player interest declined because Rare forced it to. The lie needs to stop that we, the Arena Players made it stop with lack of interest. Rare did not want the mode to continue, so they started breaking it and we gave up trying to play their broken (on purpose) mechanic.
I think respectfully the game for old players is really deprived of content. They need something more, hourglass was a good step for old people but it fell off. I love this game but I wish there was something more than getting cosmetics. Because everything always comes down to cosmetic value.
1. a dead game could also buy deals with other people. Especially when their game cost 35 bucks and an ingame stores with tons and TONS of cosmetics that you can buy with real money. 2. it's not because a game isn't competitive that it doesn't need fixing. The state of pvp has always been bad since 2019. 3. Rare is just lucky that they don't have major competition. They are lucky that they have a game that fills a certain niche because if they would have any competition they would die in a second seeing all the bugs still remaining in the game. 4. the steam chart may not be accurate to represent 100% of sot community but the curve is still going down to this day. honestly pretty horrible opinion. "bug no need fix because pvp. Game not dead because new disney content!!!!"
No! This game actually slowly begins to make sense. I cant wait for the pve servers. And its so unbelivibou funny that the hardcore pvp players are crying now haha.
Most of the ‘hardcore pvp players’ aren’t even good. The good ones actually like safer seas because they’ll get to play against better than people who don’t even want to try to fight.
game's completely trash , making old and good players leave every day. self-catastrophical devs. I regret and i will regret every day wasting 5k hours to complete every achievement and especially my pvp hours. And if u really believe that SoT have 400k players ... Bro.... Visit a doctor.. Max 20k in all platforms.
This game brought me into a new kind of experience for gaming. It's not the usual type of game I go for, but now it's my new favorite and I don't think any other game has gotten me this addicted before. I finally became pirate legend after 500 hours because I was more than happy to take my time and find adventure along the way rather than grinding super hard.
This is - in my eyes - the first bad video of yours I've seen. So first your player number calculations you keep saying OH would they do this would they do that if there are only 30k players. Nobody is saying that there is only 30k active players. There is 30k players at every hour of the day. Lets say the average session length is 2 hours, this is including some folks only playing on weekends and so on. Now we get 360k active players, much closer to the number from your weird website and very realistic that the devs would say hey 360k players lets keep making content for them, lets make a treasure hunt for them and so on. You believe that every player that plays and or likes PvP is a competitive player? Random Timmy diving for HG because he wants that ghost curse is a competitive player? The vast majority of the PvPvE playerbase and even the mostly pure PvP playerbase is not competitive and most certainly not "hardcore competitive". Of course you do not need to be a NAL player to be competitive, but like right now the actual competitive playerbase is found in like League of Thieves and not broadly in hourglass. Now the official PVP event. At this point you are just on purpose cherry picking facts to fit with your narrative here: Yes the event you point to has almost no vod views. But what about all the other last ship standings we can see in that screenshot. They have plenty of views, thousands, a few less than the non pure PvP stuff sure but not significantly less. The one you point at is quite an outlier there. And if that page is meant to be sorted chronologically the event you point at isn't even the last "Last Ship Standing" that happened. But even if it is the last of those events what are supposed to believe that the playerbase over night lost interest in watching PvP leading to this steep af decline from 7k views to like 100? And you just like don't address any of the legitimate concerns that people have. I personally don't even think the game is dying, but if someone who believes so points at clear evidence of what absolutely undeniably looks like the game sailing off into maintenance mode, the game being in a terrible state performance wise and so on then yea I get why people may think the game is dying. Additionally to suggest that Skull & Bones may fill any sort of void here is ludicrous at best - the games are nothing alike really apart from youknow pirates being a thing. Sure the playerbases will have some overlap, but I have seen a lot more people that wanted to and have indeed quit Sea of Thieves for The Finals than people voicing any sort of eagerness to leave SoT for Skull & Bones. Much more realistic for your "hardcore competitive" players to leave SoT for a shooter, 1st or 3rd person, than for them to go over to Skull & Bones. I am sorry if this comment comes off as rude, I usually quite enjoy your videos, but this one disappointed me.
Oh my Gods above, are people finally starting to realize that SoT has always been a PVE game that just allows PVP to happen? Has the wool been ripped from their eyes for the first time when the much-requested PVP voyage came, and nobody was taking part in it? Another PVP supportive UA-camr just released a video about how a week after the new voyage she can just do the voyage back-to-back without being attacked once. And if she joins into a voyage already going on, the crew doing it either dumps the loot or just logs out. People are sick and tired of being attacked by people that don't do anything else in their life but play SoT constantly. They have been sick and tired of it, and the numbers reflect this. The valleys in the player count on the chart are the points after a sale happens for SoT and all those new players get pushed away by the number of people we see remaining in the lowest count. Those "bottom of the barrel" numbers from each dip are the long-term players and the hardcore PVP supporters. These are the constant players that are the SoT community, the higher numbers that everyone wants to keep putting neon signs pointing to are just temporary players that don't stick around for very long. Getting attacked all the time, never being able to progress due to constant attacks, never being able to do anything because they just don't have enough time to sit around an area long enough to get quest done, all of these factors make them quit playing. Sometimes for good. And as the graph shows, that "bottom of the barrel" number is going down too. Rare is sick of the lower number of players forcing their higher numbers to plummet too. That's why we are getting safer seas in the first place. Finally, players can get the game or hopefully return to the game for the first time and do what they want. Simply, play the game. No longer will we have to keep an eye on the horizon for other players approaching, finally we can spend an hour figuring out a puzzle, FINALLY we can actually keep all the loot we gather. And as I have said to all the doubters out there calling out the 70% reduction of value in SS, 30% of anything sold is still 100% more than everything stolen from me in HS. I don't do PVP in SoT, I don't want to do PVP in SoT, I don't care to do PVP in SoT, I hate PVP in SoT, I wouldn't cry if they disabled PVP in SoT. So, when I bring a chest on board my ship, I do want to be able to keep it there and to eventually sell it for gold and XP. And if the only way for that to happen is to waste 90% of my very little free time to play a game fighting for my life just to progress less than 1% in just 1% of the total progression within the game, I'd just rather not play the game at all. Or at the very least stop playing it at the time when I see someone approaching because I know that in this game, someone come straight at you isn't doing so to be friends. The game is "dying" because what it was is slowing being chocked out. Rare is finally removing players ability to exploit in anyway, they are adding a whole new playstyle to the game to finally allow players to just play the game for once. And for the first time, they care more for the longevity of the game rather than the crybaby ego maniacs that have been ruining their game from the day it launched. Hardcore PVP Twitch streamers and UA-camrs are having to start innocently picking on other players rather than going all out to fight them just to be able to make any content at all now. They can't just PVP any longer because everyone either runs away, logs off, or is another PVPer that is just as good or better than them, and who wants to watch a 2-3 hour stream of two boats sailing in circles unable to sink each other, and gaining nothing as a reward should one be able to sink the other in the end. Because PVPer's don't have any loot to begin with, they don't pick any up that just spawns in the world, they don't do any quest to get any of their own loot, they just spend an hour gathering supplies so they can then destroy all the other players that have been questing for that hour for their loot. But they can't do that anymore can they? Everyone just gives up and gets off the game now because they are done with it all. They are tired of being used as an ego boost for people that know that's the only thing they have going for them in life. That they can click buttons better than other people. So no, the game as a whole isn't going away or dying off, but what the game is, is dying and going away. There will be a huge shift in how the game operates from now on, and the numbers will be on the rise (probably higher than it has ever seen) and that could have massive effects on the future path of the game, but only time can tell. As pointed out a few months ago by a UA-camr on the state of the game then, "Sea of Thieves can't survive on PVE alone" to which I responded with, "But it can't exist without it, either." PVP was killing the game, now PVE will hopefully save it.
You say it's not made for the pvp community yet it has one of if not the most complex and fun naval pvp combat i've ever seen, if it's truely casual then i don't understand why they would make the skill ceiling of naval so high.
Im so excited for skull and bones to release then subsequently flop, leading the games industry to conclude “people dont like pirate games” and we just never get another one
People say "game is dead" as the most negative thing in the hopes of scaring Devs into listening to them. They are frustrated with the game; i.e. they didn't get what they want, or experienced something annoying. Every major online game has these 'game is dead' comments
Iv only just came back after not playing since launch and im enjoying my solo sloop travels so far. To me it really depends what time of day it is. If I play early morning I find its quiet and I can usually get things done I can't when more people are on. Then in the evening I dont even bother trying to do FOTD or SOSS because that's when all the try hards are on. I played for like 3 hours yesterday just doing gold hoarder vaults and digs and had like 30 chests on my ship before handing in. Sometimes the game being quiet is good for us newer players. I will say one thing tho. Rare need to kind of step up their game with adding content. One thing id like to see is something other then a Meg or a Kraken attacking you, maybe add some more sea monsters like the Hydra.
Me and a friend just started playing again for the first time since 2019 after me only having like 20 hours in it previously and it is MILES better than I remember it. So much fun, we’ve been grinding every day for like 3 weeks now lmfao
Been playing daily about 4 years now (xbox), and still play every day but it is not the same as it was a couple years ago you can feel the difference for sure. If you want an idea of the player base, take a look at the monthly ledger stats. They average like 60,000 players in the stats per month and that only counts those making enough emissary money to rate in the ledger. So there's still a lot of players on it. But even as a long time player who still plays daily, I'm pretty bored with it now and only continue playing because there's nothing else like it. There's no other naval or pirate type open world sandbox, which is kinda surprising. I have most the cosmetics, am sitting on like 23 million gold on top of that with nothing to really spend it on, and have most the commendations I'm interested in. Lately I've just been hopping open crews and that keeps it spicy because different people bring a different experience and I've landed on some cool crews.
With the game devs being absolute idiots and removing everything in the game that requires any type of skill in the game. Along with monkey island was terrible. The game devs don’t care about half the player base so yeah the game devs are trying to get the og’s off the game
I mean rare is actively trying to kill there game I mean it’s what it seems like at least. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE SERVER QUALITY. Hit reg has been a big problem for soooooo long. hackers were a problem for a YEAR straight it almost seems like they gave up on the game. I mean sot could not die if the game devs worked more then 3 days a week instead of throwing party’s at there headquarters half the time
the most vocal people online are those who view the game as a competetive pvp game. people dont engage in pvp very often, so they see the game as dead, and vocalise their thoughts on places like twitter. thats why most people talking about the game are complaining. also, people who are happy with things are less likely to speak about it, so barely any people vocalise how they love the game
i was agreeing to everything he said up to "maybe skull and bones can fill that void". lol big NO, we play for the unique mechanincs and tools that this games provides to paint the white canvas that is a PvP encounter. You can do harpoon turns, use stationary cannons, use blunderbombs to turn boats, activate quests to spawn random pve threats, deck shot, take on anothers person boat, use different type of amunition, win by pouring water to the other boat using only buckets, set a boat on fire, use kegs, hide for the precise moment to strike, be sword lord, be a double gunner, use cannon rowboats, break our own mast to hide behind an island or rock, eat worms to blind the enemy when boarding, you get me. Competitive or PvP lads like me remain here because there is no other game that has this many unique ways to PvP or steal something from someone. It's not all about "iron ball go hit other boat = me happy" skull and bones takes away almost 80% of what is fun for me you dont even have to know how to naval because you have cannons in all parts of the boat making you have 360° angle to shoot
Yeah I feel you, honestly I couldn't care less about them removing double gun, I love this game for all the other things that involve the Player vs Player experience of it. It is such a unique game, a unique feeling, seeing it drift away from what makes me love it is so depressing. I doubt any other game will ever manage to capture this. Why do people call us "competitive" players? I'm not gaining anything by playing the game this way, I'm not raising on any ranking, I don't care about the money from selling loot. I just wanted the experience...
Thank YOU! Tired of these no life hardcore players trying to force things in their direction. They always seem to scream the loudest too. On EVERY popular game they infest it like roaches and try to antifa bully the devs into doing their bidding. I have always looked at the game as an adventure game not some sort of ocean Fortnight pvp match. You're supposed to explore, find treasure, and even steal treasure when you can. NOT spend the day harassing people over and over again with your 1337 exploits. The game isn't dead, the tryhards just got bored and moved on, all except for the most dedicated streamers and hackers.
I must be playing another game, cause my servers are occasionally close to full. If your servers aren't full, it's because a lot of people play the game hence the need for a lot of servers.
Whenever i play: doesnt see another player ship for hours on end to the point i can complete world events solo without worrying about other pirates tucking
@@ElroyTheTwost so i say its rare to find people and u say its not rare but then u proof my point by saying theres more to do so crews are more spread out... so what is it? :D
Ships being able to catch fire kind of ruined it for me as a solo player. Not only do you have to manage everything in the sloop alone, now you need to fend off fires as well. It became annoying
Game may not be dead but is sure feels dead when playing it. The lobbies I’ve been getting are virtually empty and boring. I’ve experienced everything there is in the game, and since I’m not encountering people at all most of the time there is nothing new for me.
I noticed this as well, but it turned out that my geographical region is just not very populated. Using a VPN to connect to game servers in California, Texas, or Great Britain and I'm constantly finding full lobbies with forts of the damned going on, minute or less hourglass queues, active skull of siren songs. I think Rare needs to look at how their network infrastructure connects people.
Due to work and other boring things I play maybe once a month and everytime I log on something new is happening. Theres no way a game that consistently releases video updates and listens to players for quality of life changes is a dead game. Getting bored in a game doesn't mean its dead, its just not what you expected or you've changed taste in your game preferences.
May sound dumb but if im being honest, the only reason i stopped playing SoT is because of the sailing part in between the fun parts. Sometimes the sailing just drained all my longing to keep playing out of me, nothing really happens, i know it sounds dumb but i really felt like i was wasting my time because the sailing parts were longer than the other parts. I just wish they would add some distractions/small events for players to just enjoy while sailing. Imagine dolphins or a whale coming out of the ocean for a split moment. Or Birds flying alongside your ship. Just something that will make the ride pass faster, distractions basically.
@@patrickk5806 Yup. Im more talking about some random world events, maybe some dolphins next to the ship, a whale sighting, flock of birds flying next to your ship for a moment yk
I want to pick up the game again but now its a "make your own fun" game wich is more fun to do in GTAV or any game so if they dont add BOUNTIES for GOLD into the game or MAELSTROMS i dont find myself wanting to pick this up again even if my channel is centered around it
just bc sot isn't INTENDED to be a comp pvp game, doesn't mean you should actively punish those players who, after playing the game normally, get bored and get good at pvp. All the people crying about qs are NOT in the comp community and aren't really affected by it anyway. You can still 2 tap people before they can eat and any competent player, especially comp players, will still be easily able to sink those people. Catering to the comp side of a game is one thing, and it's ok sot isn't doing that. But ACTIVELY alienating those who spent thousands of hours on sot pvp because they simply enjoyed it, now that's kinda fucked. at least in my opinion it is. When people go as far as spending thousands of hours playing pvp, hosting their own tournaments, etc. you don't just remove such a huge chunk of what makes it fun and possible. if you don't want these people in adventure, give them back arena with private proxies. let them host their tournaments, play their tdms and queue for pvp outside of adventure. I believe the #1 problem IS HOURGLASS. with pve people, who don't play sot for the pvp and who possibly despise pvp, the hg rewards are OBVIOUSLY still very tempting. but when they run into more competent players, instead of blaming themselves and getting better, they blame ANYTHING other than their own mistakes. and these players are sadly the majority. by putting comp pvp into adventure, rare effectively forced those pvp-loving players onto those, who hate pvp. now the majority of players is complaining about pvp instead of getting good or getting other rewards and rare is forced to take action because those pve players are the players who spent the most amount of money on sot. Rare essentially caused a problem by forcing pvp lovers onto pvp haters and is now punishing pvp players for playing pvp in the pvp gamemode. no pvp player wanted this though. *also, private arena proxies would allow anyone to practice pvp, making pvp more accessible for everyone to get into. they're adding priv servers for pve, why not for pvp too?
They brag about having millions of players starting but never tell us the current numbers playing which should tell you a LOT, willing to bet less than 25% of those "millions" have even logged in in the last 6 months
People always get tricked by Steam Charts, either not understanding how it works or other factors (like playing on other platforms) And aside from that, I think ""dead game"" is a really stupid type of term in the gaming ecosystem. As far as I'm concerned, no game is "dead" as long as people are playing it or talking about it, or developers are updating it. Ironically, by calling SoT a "dead game", you're directly participating by keeping it alive by interacting with its community,, even if it's out of contempt for what's going on with it.
I really hate how divided everyone is on this... Can't we all accept sot is a creative sandbox? There are many playstyles. Getting mad at a sword lord or getting mad at double gunner... Neither are wrong. Double gunners believe the sword lunge to islands IS an exploit and therefore want to keep their quick swap exploit. Sword lords believe quick swapping is an exploit and believe sword lunging to islands is NOT an exploit.
If people don't like it, then they're welcome to leave. I'll leave when Rare switch off the last server. My wife and I love playing it, a few missions, rack a bit of gold, get our asses handed to us every so often, it's all good fun.
The argument is the game is a high risk high reward style of gameplay, but not everyone who wants to play it cares about the risk to reward and just want to sail the seas and find/dig up treasure, without the risk of spending a couple of hours gathering only to lose all the gold and exp earned in that time due to “its pvp bro, it’s sea of thieves not sea of friends” Which makes sense why they finally added safer seas which is pure pve even though you take a 70% hit to earnings and only get 30% of what you would earn in high seas (multiplayer mode), but honestly I think they will revise that when they see how much safer seas draws people in more than high seas.
"Sea of thieves is not dead" Usually posted by content creators who are paid out by the game developers as a last ditch effort to save the game. It's like nobody is listening to us, community who pays into supporting the game and what we as players want. Its always about the money, just follow it. Tomato-Tomato
4:20 its not an exploit 4:43 how come lots of sot content creators think the change shouldn't have happened tho, even blurbs thought that. And their is also that polls show (depending on the poll) between 40 and 60% of voters think the change shouldn't have happened/it was a bad decision. Rare just needs to accept they were wrong and revert it in the next patch.
Honestly man your preaching, if the PvP isn't fun then there's nothing to do after hitting PL and you should just quit since the rest of the game is a slog of commendation grinding
“It’s not an exploit” you clearly don’t know what that word means. It’s very literally an exploit, like, by every single definition and context of the word, my guy. You don’t have to like it, but that doesn’t change facts, bud. Edit: similarly the infamous sword lunge is an exploit too, the devs decided to keep it because they like it so much. I’m a sword main, and would be pissy too if they took it out, but it’s still an exploit (well, started as, but could be argued that it’s not anymore because they deliberately changed it to not be an exploit).
game is fun .PVP can be fun - but usually its boring af .If i want pvp thare are alot of games that are specialized in it and much more fast phased .You can waste hours in pvp fight to get nearly nothing . Its just not worth to participate in .Unless you are selfegobooster .
These sweats always make me laugh out loud. 'Get gud' Gosh I cannot WAIT for them to find something else to do with their lives. Their constant nagging, criticism, childish behavior... They are just plain weird. Weird because no matter what : THEY ALWAYS COME GRINDING THAT GAME LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW. They are, for most of them, the most addicted individuals in the game. Better ignore EVERY word coming out of their disgruntled mouths.
Well the thing is they don't allow players to just play the game look at any other competitive games like WoW or CoD you dont need to be competitive it has other things to do in WoW you can turn world pvp on or off you can play in a pvp world or a pve world it allows players to play the game while SoT is all pvp you cant just play rhe game without worrying someone gonna get you it been like that since day 1 and what is the answer that they give people is "its okay to be toxic that what we want" well that gonna lead to a empty game like it is now how are you gonna get more pvp players when they cant even learn to play the game hence why people leave and come back
nah its dying rare is killing the skill ceiling of this game and they can't keep hold of newer players long after an update because the engine sucks and the skilled players are going to chase them out
SOT is dying or already died due to the fkn trolls, its a great game and I love it, but I don't bother playing it anymore due to trolls like GTA online...
@infinitypeaches3329 no no like legit troll players hahah, they just screw around and bother you and your mates after grinding for literal hours only to loose everything to some randoms which keep tracking you down just cause they saw you sail by them like wtf
@@nickh4280 they want your loot and treasure, if you wanna to keep it, fight for it. but if you mean to say that you keep on sinking them and they keep coming back, that would be a little bit rude on their part. but that's not trolling, its just them being abit hard headed to come back again and again.
@captainshelf7 I rather grind and enjoy my loot than fight people for nothing just cause they are elazy to get the hard work done themselves mate. The fact that we try to fight em off and they keep coming back is sad af and that's why they are killing the game. Same like GTA online and Reddead, I love to go fishing, driving, hiking and all sorts in the game, but get ass clapped by some muppets. Where is the fun in that?
@@nickh4280 you've gotta fight em off so hard, they don't return. grinding for loot isn't difficult, just very time consuming. though it does suck when you sink an attacking boat only for it to not have any loot, and no supplies. The only issue MAYBE is fighting a war of attrition, but you could always stack back up. Btw If you're running an emissary, then the flag does mean you accept the risk of pvp and turns you into a shiny loot boat. If loosing loot is this much of a problem then just sell at every opportunity to keep your boat light.
I think the best thing about Sea of Thieves is you can make the game whatever you want to. My favorite part of the game is player interactions; and that's where I've had the most fun. Shenanigans!
He literally said Sea of thieves is a CASUAL game, And was the whole point Arena got removed, Gee i wonder why theres no players in hourglass, Its almost as if no one wants to play competetive :o
I came back near the end of Season 9? Just before guilds and what not. I don't remember what season we're on even though I play lmao. This game I got sick of in Season 6, because it seemed lackluster. But right now, the people I'm meeting and such. The game is feeling way better (when hit reg works) and I LOVE the game more than ever. I'm casual kinda. I'm not a hardcore PvPer I'm good at it, but pure pvp has become more dead since S6. A lot of people will just run from you, or aren't as amazing as it used to be in the old seasons. Which I don't love nor hate, it feels genuinely fair now. Because even in season 6. I knew about a friend of mine, who was cheating and I knew cheaters were getting away with it since he hasn't to this day been banned.
SOt can be better.. but its mean we need a SOT II but.. to have more people on, the PVE thats is coming will help for that! SOT is my favorite game, but i stop playuing it.. going on sea after work, having fun... but if someone take all my stuff in 2 minutes because is a tryharder.. fock thats sad. But with the pve server, lots of people like me that dont want the pvp all days will be there!
Yeah, SoT is not really a competetive game. Not like Battlefield or COD at all. But mate, the groundwork of SoT is stealing treasure and fighting each other for it. That aspect needs to work right. And some new weapons would be dope... 🙄
Games dying. Just like many before it. Mostly because the developers aren't addressing the issues many that left the community had with it. A stark lesson to be sure. Especially as a development team. You don't want your game to die? Listen to would be customers and or current ones. You show your player base you really don't care, what do you think happens? Certainly not having your product thrive. 🧐
I personally don't think the game is DEAD.. but its dying, seeing as it's not as popular as it used to be. and Rare doing big things like Pirate life and Monkey island.. well how else will you get players back? ofc they need to come up with new things to bring back more players. that is just common sense. It will take a Long time before the game is Dead Dead.. but losing Players it has and keeps doing, so Dying yes.. Dead No. lets just hope Rare can fix all the Bugs and things that make the game so frustrating.
I noticed when you check emissary stats there's like 80 thousand in the gold ranks alone. That's 80 thousand players who have done Gold Hoarders emissary this month.
As much that I agree sea of thieves is casual AF, you can't deny that PvP forces you to play the game completely differently. Read, not in a casual AF way. You can vibe in PVE, not in PVP.
People that are complaining about PvE servers are just sad they cant grief players now. Since you cant grief a true PvP player since they WANT to PvP and will fight back. lol
You know the funniest part? Even the sweatier stuff like Hourglass is more fun when you take it casually. Sure is sweating your balls off and going for huge streaks a better gold/rep gain? Sure. But you know what's more fun? Loading up your bow with a bunch of kegs, wait to be invaded, and then ram them with the kegs.
I’m all for PvP, but oh man did this game fall off for me when the average player I ran into was some ex rust double gunning giga sweat. I completely agree, sea of thieves is a casual game, and given how janky the models look and how badly the game performs when players attempt to play this game at a really high competitive level, it’s pretty clear to me rare never intended this game to be played the way a lot of the really sweaty players play it. I think this confusion is mostly due to the fact that the current PvEvP market is pretty much completely filled with very competitive games. As far as I’m aware I don’t think there is another casual PvEvP game out there. I’m at the point with the sea of thieves where I’ve done all I’m really interested in doing with it, and am currently just waiting for a content drop large enough to that will give me enough to do to return to playing this game regularly again. That being said, I did play when they dropped the sirens song world event and had the most fun I’ve had in the game in years. The removal of double gunning allowed for more drawn out fights between myself and the crews who were very obviously more skilled. The lack of hit reg as well made it feel so much better and overall I felt like I was back to when I only had 200 hours in the game. As much as people bemoan these changes, for me personally as someone who enjoys PvP but also doesn’t care enough to do aim trainer for the casual pirate game, and doesn’t have the dexterity in his digits for doing consistent specific button presses to hot swap my weapons, these changes have been nothing but good. To me the joy with this game has never been dominating another crew with my impressive ability to click on people or by showing off my prowess of performing unintended exploits on a consistent basis, all of my joy has spawned from coming up with rat brained strategies to steal treasure. For example, with the skull of sirens song, my crew mate and I were clearly outmatched by the three other crews who were also competing for it, so, instead, we took a rowboat to the island where they were going to sell it, allowed them to fight it out, and waited for them to approach the island close enough for brigsy to spawn. We then found her spawn location and hid a keg in a nearby bush and waited. The crew discovered my friend, but his death served as a good distraction as the crew seemed to assume they were safe after killing one persistent tucker. They approaches brigsy and I let fly a well placed blunder bomb and killed 2 of the 3 crew members on the spot, then before the third could react I stole the skull and sold it. That is the core of sea of thieves I love. That is what makes this game unique to me, that knowledge and strategy can and often will beat skill. If I wanted to tdm with players I’d go play cod, but I can’t steal treasure from people in cod who’ve been fighting back and forth over a single piece of loot for hours can I?
I don't know about all that, it seems to take forever to find someone to fight in PVP and if there is hundreds of thousands of players on all at once all of the server instances should be full and the gold reaper chest should always be on the horizon. But no, there is always server merges happening and sometimes the match making for PVP just gives up and spits you back at port.
You really have to differentiate what is consider a "competitive game" and what's an "e-sports game". Sea of Thieves is a game with PVP, stealing loot, fighting other crews and sinking ships, it's about heists, sneak plays and the urge of coming out on top. It's 100% a competitive game in that regard. You are competing with the other crew, no matter if it's a random encounter in Adventure or in Hourglass, you want to sink the other crew, you want to be victorious, you are competitive. Sure alot of people don't play Sea of Thieves this way, who only want to go on adventures, dig treasures and only fight if necessary. But in any game, if there's PVP=reward, there's going to be competitiveness.
I thought I could only enjoy SOT as a hardcore pvp master and sinking ships to gain dat booty but then I found myself relaxing on nice nights moving cargo :p and then promptly unloading 20 cursed cannon balls on the reaper ship coming for me
I wonder if the game its really dying, if they will remove the game or let the their game for offline play. Because i hate that i have bought Minimum on Steam, and they killed all the things, didnt let the offline part working, and i hate that, if i pay for a game i want to keep it Forever working(offline)
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"Game Is Dead" - Usually posted by people who are actively playing the game. Just another lesson to avoid echo chambers! Love your work, GeeNee!
i stopped playing sot and i say that the game stinks because they are making it worse with 'updates'
@@sSteppingStones If you're not playing the game nothing's stopping you from moving on and I wish you well. But sticking around the peripheral and shouting "Game sucks!" at anyone who is enjoying it is not a good look. You're kinda proving the point GeeNee is making with the whole "Dead...to me" line.
yep! but i still have hope that rare will make it better again + some people takes are some of the best laughing i have ever done
@@JonBardcore SoT means/meant a lot to some competitive players. It took rare years to make the game as casual friendly as possible by lowering the skill ceiling/trying to kill this part of their community. Over those years a lot of people spent hundreds if not thousands of hours in the game. It's not that easy to completely ignore something that had such an impact on you for that long. Some of the people who sound negative in comments like Bee here just want to see the game doing better.
@@Hap_ crazy thing is these are the constant players that have stayed for the game mostly because the PvP is something fresh and not just like what cod is and that there's a little strategy involved, it's a shame that this company doesn't care for those people as the ones they cater to will leave after 50 hours of gameplay because there's nothing to do after hitting PL
I literally played for the first time in 9 months last week. I got 95k on my 1 man sloop after 2 hrs of not seeing anyone, suddenly got chased by a blood thristy trio when near port, dumped my loot in my dingy, swung around the island breaking line of sight, and took off on my dingy in the opposite direction with all my loot as i watched the trio chase my empty ship to the horizon and beyond.
Laughed my arse off for a solid 5 minutes. This game is still fire
So it was you my kids were cursing... just kidding.
Broken ankles Pirate edition
Well played
If i did that my rowboat would glitch out when it dropped and i wouldnt be able to drive it and would just jitter up and down
Just came back to SOT after a few years and I’m loving all the quality of life improvements
Welcome back!
Do you play solo or with others?
@@dan65l.s.62 10% solo, 90% with others, the game is so much better with shipmates.
Same bro, i havnt played properly since 2020. Been absolutely loving the convenience + there’s way more to do now
@@HPsawus Hell yeah, welcome back!
Something that's always important to keep in mind is that the peak concurrent player count for any given day or month only shows how many people are online at the SAME TIME. It doesn't show how many INDIVIDUALS come online at any point throughout a day or month. There are plenty of people who don't play every day, and people don't all log on at the same time. All game companies keep track of the total individuals who log on at least once during a day/week/month, and those numbers are far more indicative of a game's population than the concurrent player count. That 400,000 number seems realistic to me as the number of individuals logging on at least once per month, and that's DEFINITELY not a dead game!
Yupppp, "concurrents" always trips people up. That 386K actives number is almost certainly *just* based on Steam - it's pretty easy to extrapolate 14K peak concurrents out to 200-400K monthly uniques. Devs have regularly said it gets "millions" of MAUs. So at least over 1M but in the past on big releases (like Disney Pirates) it hit nearly 5M uniques!
He really struck a nerve with you lads eh
@@TheCAPITALgenius uh we're agreeing with him?
monthly logins is not really a great way to measure activity.
@@mrblob107 Monthly logins is a great way to measure monthly logins tho. And Steam gives a rough idea of daily concurrents, including historic activity over time. Do you actually have a point you're trying to make, or...?
3:15 They stopped supporting arena and said they were done updating it. Then they removed chat entirely, so the social aspect of it was completely gone. I don't think the lack of desire for competition was the reason for it dying off.
I feel like it isn't dead, just the community shifted in a way that led to many old players quitting the game (but new ones joining in their place). For me SoT lost its charm when seasons came
Exaclty man I loved this game maxed everything nearly and once seasons arrived it just didn’t feel the same
The seasonal model in general is one of the worst things to happen to games imo. Fomo and microtransactions run rampant nowadays. Sot is still fun to play but I agree seasons are not good for the game
@@zeeboss7553 sorry if I didn't make it clear. It's not the seasonal models themselves that I have a problem with, it's just that the community adapted to them in a weird way which kinda made the game lose its casual charm
I saw alot of the old players complaining they were changing double gunning mechanics and how they didn't want to have to use a sword again.
People like Theb destroying casuals and then complaining Rare changed something they had been exploiting for years.
Losing long time dedicated players for new players who quite possibly will be gone within a month or two. Doesn't really add up long term
While the game definitely isn't dead, and dying is probably too strong a word, you can see player numbers dropping over time. Season 10 had one of the lowest player counts on an update day of all time, which is not a good thing to see for the game's health. Steam charts is not an accurate representation of the exact number of people playing, but it's a good indicator of how many people are playing compared to previous points in time.
Xbox numbers could be going up for all we know, would that be proof that the game is recovering? Not really. All I care about is how many players can fit on one server. If they only had 50 total players at a time and they could all be on the same server I’d play more than I do now.
@@tobyonatabe2601you cant know, because xbox numbers are not posting officially
Im sure some of us can agree that competitve players are a bad influence for the game community
His legend gets it. Competitive gaming is why gaming doesn't feel the same these days. Too man tournaments, too many kids spending all day on the game to play competitively.
I just stopped playing because of how toxic people are. Often times they are on alt accounts and because of this, reporting their accounts does nothing effective :/
He nails the key takeaway: Sea of Thieves is not a competitive PvP game. It's also not marketed as such. So, holding SoT to standards Rare's not even trying to reach is asking for disappointment. It's no wonder a crowd of these folks echo themselves into these arguments of "dead game."
Well, actually it WAS marketed as a pvp game for majority of its launch. Pvp content was consistently promoted in sot trailers for a long while until around when the Pirates life tall tale series was released and they roped in a whole bunch of new players. Because of this massive increase due to a story release, their entire focus shifted from pirate game based on combat and player interaction, to pirate game based on short story missions and pve grinding.
@le_big_monke543 notice how he said COMPETITIVE PvP game? It was marketed as a pirate game that had pirate elements such as yknow stealing shit. But a hard-core PvP experience was never what rare offered with the game. At the end of the day it's a sandbox game with optional PvP and because it's a sandbox some people will love the PvP and some will hate it. For a very long time PvP elements were added to the game with each update. I agree a new ship or type of cannonball/weapon would be cool but at the end of the day it's rares game and they want to tell a naritive and that's what they are focusing on. And like it or not alot of people are excited for that narrative and more PvE stuff to do.
R.I.P. Sea of Thieves
The capstan will never be centered on the sloop now
You know it’s a good day when this legend uploads
The game is not dead, but it is lacking a lot of new content that retains the player base and keeps the seas lively
Skull & Bones is dog shit.
Even though I do like SoT PvP, I don't like that I'm doing some 2h session and then a Brig Trio comes and makes my 2h a complete waste of time.
I have 1500 hours in the game, after a 2 month break (with sporadic play prior to that), a week into season 9 and I called it quits. Haven’t played since but still love what SoT could be. I just don’t think Rare are actually dedicated to making SoT the best version of itself it can be. We’ve all seen their priorities over the years, the fact that it took 5 and a half years to even work on hit reg, only for it to come out worse than before, speaks volumes (just one example in a long list of many). But as long as we have “new” recolored cosmetics in the store, we’re in it to win it, baby! Amirite?! 😒
Watching streamers cruise around for 2 hours and only encounter one boat, then sink that boat in 14 seconds (while getting hit regged out of their minds, then insert salt mine from brand new pirates who don’t understand the game yet), then back to server hopping for 1-3 hours, rinse repeat, also speaks volumes. Take all that for what you will.
Nope you're right. But people just don't wanna hear it.
hitreg isn't worse, that was the server stability issues. They said it on a recent video.
As someone who has played 2400+ hours, I don't think you like the game that much, if you need the devs working on something new to "spark" your experience.
@@vandrar3n “they said” lol, gotta love when naive people who don’t know don’t know what they’re talking let you know who they are right off the rip. 👍
(They’re claiming that shooting a pirate and that shot hitting, but not registering, ISN’T a hit registration issue, which it is by definition for those keeping track, it’s actually a “server stability issue” because “they said so”, it DEFINITELY CAN’T be the thing they claimed they fixed but turns out it’s not actually fixed but they can’t admit that because holy shit if they did, so they shuck the blame onto some other broken feature, since they have a laundry list to choose from. It DEFINITELY can’t be that, huh-uh, no way! If they actually had 2400 hours in the game they’d be FULLY aware of the insane amount of time Rare has “said” something then went completely the opposite direction or have been caught dead to rights lying: “we will never bring back hard earned time limited cosmetics, as that would ruin their value and achievement” *brings back time limited cosmetics right after, then continues doing so, claiming they never said that*, just one example in another long list)
Edit: also hard to “spark interest” when the only thing I wanna do in this game is fight other pirates and my two options are: sit underwater in a queue or 15 minutes, sink a some brand new guy who accidentally voted on hourglass within 5, rinse repeat, OR I can sail around for a couple hours in a dead game looking for someone else to shoot a cannonball at. There’s a reason I quit a week into season 9, literally couldn’t find people to play against and got bored af doin uncontested fofs. And looking at season 10, it’s the exact same except empty fotds instead of fofs. VERY exciting gameplay.
Edit 2: peoples’ biggest complaint about the new siren song event? Not enough people contesting it and they’re bored af. Go figure. 🙄
@@zebdawson3687 oh, you're so funny, mate. You know shit because you played 1500 hours, which is esentially nothing.
@@vandrar3n i know shit because I actually know shit, not just claim to know it because I heard it from someone else. I love how you think ANY amount of time doing something automatically makes you an expert (that’s called a “call to authority”, look it up, when instead of using your expertise to prove your point or support your argument, you use the FACT that you have “expertise”, in this case purely hours played, as your supporting argument, it’s a hilarious strategy used by real 1heads when they get backed into a corner or defensive about topics they’re passionate about, but aren’t smart enough or articulate enough to actual come to the defense of. It’s actual clown shit 🤡), when in the exact same comment you prove how very little actual knowledge you have. Absolutely ironic, but I somehow suspect you’re completely unaware that. I’ve met pirates with 3000 hours in the game that don’t know what dummy sails are. It’s hilarious that hours played is your metric for expertise, that’s some shit a child would do, homie. 😂
The other term I’d point out is called “pissing contest”, look that up too.
For the millionth time: Arena stopped because RARE wanted it to stop. Players declined because Rare stopped updating it and the mode became literally, LITERALLY unplayable. People got tired of getting kicked out during battles or them never starting in the first place, so they quit trying to play. I was in the lobby and it was full to the brim and the match would not start, then we would get kicked and have to start the wait again. I was there. Player interest declined because Rare forced it to. The lie needs to stop that we, the Arena Players made it stop with lack of interest. Rare did not want the mode to continue, so they started breaking it and we gave up trying to play their broken (on purpose) mechanic.
5:20 That's the most enthusiastic Absolute Pixel I've ever heard
I think respectfully the game for old players is really deprived of content. They need something more, hourglass was a good step for old people but it fell off. I love this game but I wish there was something more than getting cosmetics. Because everything always comes down to cosmetic value.
1. a dead game could also buy deals with other people. Especially when their game cost 35 bucks and an ingame stores with tons and TONS of cosmetics that you can buy with real money.
2. it's not because a game isn't competitive that it doesn't need fixing. The state of pvp has always been bad since 2019.
3. Rare is just lucky that they don't have major competition. They are lucky that they have a game that fills a certain niche because if they would have any competition they would die in a second seeing all the bugs still remaining in the game.
4. the steam chart may not be accurate to represent 100% of sot community but the curve is still going down to this day.
honestly pretty horrible opinion. "bug no need fix because pvp. Game not dead because new disney content!!!!"
All this is true but doesnt give Rare an excuse for the game being super buggy, and for hitreg to still be broken 🤷🏼♂️
No! This game actually slowly begins to make sense. I cant wait for the pve servers. And its so unbelivibou funny that the hardcore pvp players are crying now haha.
Most of the ‘hardcore pvp players’ aren’t even good. The good ones actually like safer seas because they’ll get to play against better than people who don’t even want to try to fight.
game's completely trash , making old and good players leave every day.
self-catastrophical devs. I regret and i will regret every day wasting 5k hours to complete every achievement and especially my pvp hours.
And if u really believe that SoT have 400k players ... Bro.... Visit a doctor.. Max 20k in all platforms.
This game brought me into a new kind of experience for gaming. It's not the usual type of game I go for, but now it's my new favorite and I don't think any other game has gotten me this addicted before. I finally became pirate legend after 500 hours because I was more than happy to take my time and find adventure along the way rather than grinding super hard.
Sorry but this video is crazy cope
This is - in my eyes - the first bad video of yours I've seen.
So first your player number calculations you keep saying OH would they do this would they do that if there are only 30k players. Nobody is saying that there is only 30k active players. There is 30k players at every hour of the day. Lets say the average session length is 2 hours, this is including some folks only playing on weekends and so on. Now we get 360k active players, much closer to the number from your weird website and very realistic that the devs would say hey 360k players lets keep making content for them, lets make a treasure hunt for them and so on.
You believe that every player that plays and or likes PvP is a competitive player? Random Timmy diving for HG because he wants that ghost curse is a competitive player? The vast majority of the PvPvE playerbase and even the mostly pure PvP playerbase is not competitive and most certainly not "hardcore competitive". Of course you do not need to be a NAL player to be competitive, but like right now the actual competitive playerbase is found in like League of Thieves and not broadly in hourglass.
Now the official PVP event. At this point you are just on purpose cherry picking facts to fit with your narrative here: Yes the event you point to has almost no vod views. But what about all the other last ship standings we can see in that screenshot. They have plenty of views, thousands, a few less than the non pure PvP stuff sure but not significantly less. The one you point at is quite an outlier there. And if that page is meant to be sorted chronologically the event you point at isn't even the last "Last Ship Standing" that happened. But even if it is the last of those events what are supposed to believe that the playerbase over night lost interest in watching PvP leading to this steep af decline from 7k views to like 100?
And you just like don't address any of the legitimate concerns that people have. I personally don't even think the game is dying, but if someone who believes so points at clear evidence of what absolutely undeniably looks like the game sailing off into maintenance mode, the game being in a terrible state performance wise and so on then yea I get why people may think the game is dying.
Additionally to suggest that Skull & Bones may fill any sort of void here is ludicrous at best - the games are nothing alike really apart from youknow pirates being a thing. Sure the playerbases will have some overlap, but I have seen a lot more people that wanted to and have indeed quit Sea of Thieves for The Finals than people voicing any sort of eagerness to leave SoT for Skull & Bones. Much more realistic for your "hardcore competitive" players to leave SoT for a shooter, 1st or 3rd person, than for them to go over to Skull & Bones.
I am sorry if this comment comes off as rude, I usually quite enjoy your videos, but this one disappointed me.
Oh my Gods above, are people finally starting to realize that SoT has always been a PVE game that just allows PVP to happen? Has the wool been ripped from their eyes for the first time when the much-requested PVP voyage came, and nobody was taking part in it? Another PVP supportive UA-camr just released a video about how a week after the new voyage she can just do the voyage back-to-back without being attacked once. And if she joins into a voyage already going on, the crew doing it either dumps the loot or just logs out.
People are sick and tired of being attacked by people that don't do anything else in their life but play SoT constantly. They have been sick and tired of it, and the numbers reflect this. The valleys in the player count on the chart are the points after a sale happens for SoT and all those new players get pushed away by the number of people we see remaining in the lowest count. Those "bottom of the barrel" numbers from each dip are the long-term players and the hardcore PVP supporters. These are the constant players that are the SoT community, the higher numbers that everyone wants to keep putting neon signs pointing to are just temporary players that don't stick around for very long. Getting attacked all the time, never being able to progress due to constant attacks, never being able to do anything because they just don't have enough time to sit around an area long enough to get quest done, all of these factors make them quit playing. Sometimes for good. And as the graph shows, that "bottom of the barrel" number is going down too.
Rare is sick of the lower number of players forcing their higher numbers to plummet too. That's why we are getting safer seas in the first place. Finally, players can get the game or hopefully return to the game for the first time and do what they want. Simply, play the game. No longer will we have to keep an eye on the horizon for other players approaching, finally we can spend an hour figuring out a puzzle, FINALLY we can actually keep all the loot we gather. And as I have said to all the doubters out there calling out the 70% reduction of value in SS, 30% of anything sold is still 100% more than everything stolen from me in HS. I don't do PVP in SoT, I don't want to do PVP in SoT, I don't care to do PVP in SoT, I hate PVP in SoT, I wouldn't cry if they disabled PVP in SoT. So, when I bring a chest on board my ship, I do want to be able to keep it there and to eventually sell it for gold and XP. And if the only way for that to happen is to waste 90% of my very little free time to play a game fighting for my life just to progress less than 1% in just 1% of the total progression within the game, I'd just rather not play the game at all. Or at the very least stop playing it at the time when I see someone approaching because I know that in this game, someone come straight at you isn't doing so to be friends.
The game is "dying" because what it was is slowing being chocked out. Rare is finally removing players ability to exploit in anyway, they are adding a whole new playstyle to the game to finally allow players to just play the game for once. And for the first time, they care more for the longevity of the game rather than the crybaby ego maniacs that have been ruining their game from the day it launched.
Hardcore PVP Twitch streamers and UA-camrs are having to start innocently picking on other players rather than going all out to fight them just to be able to make any content at all now. They can't just PVP any longer because everyone either runs away, logs off, or is another PVPer that is just as good or better than them, and who wants to watch a 2-3 hour stream of two boats sailing in circles unable to sink each other, and gaining nothing as a reward should one be able to sink the other in the end. Because PVPer's don't have any loot to begin with, they don't pick any up that just spawns in the world, they don't do any quest to get any of their own loot, they just spend an hour gathering supplies so they can then destroy all the other players that have been questing for that hour for their loot. But they can't do that anymore can they? Everyone just gives up and gets off the game now because they are done with it all. They are tired of being used as an ego boost for people that know that's the only thing they have going for them in life. That they can click buttons better than other people.
So no, the game as a whole isn't going away or dying off, but what the game is, is dying and going away. There will be a huge shift in how the game operates from now on, and the numbers will be on the rise (probably higher than it has ever seen) and that could have massive effects on the future path of the game, but only time can tell.
As pointed out a few months ago by a UA-camr on the state of the game then, "Sea of Thieves can't survive on PVE alone" to which I responded with, "But it can't exist without it, either." PVP was killing the game, now PVE will hopefully save it.
yeah sure almost 400.000 players and I can't see people in 2 hours of playing
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Thanks for making this video! 🏴☠👍🏼
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Nobody's playing. I should inform the dude who robbed me of my Fort of the dams that he doesn't exist. Maybe he'll give them back
Been rewatching ur vids, makes me wanna boot up the Xbox and play
For me Sea of Thieves sadly lost it's charm when it became more about Thieves than Sea :(
You say it's not made for the pvp community yet it has one of if not the most complex and fun naval pvp combat i've ever seen, if it's truely casual then i don't understand why they would make the skill ceiling of naval so high.
>Player count going to the abyss
"Nah bruh game is fine, if you have any negative feedback just switch games"
Im so excited for skull and bones to release then subsequently flop, leading the games industry to conclude “people dont like pirate games” and we just never get another one
People say "game is dead" as the most negative thing in the hopes of scaring Devs into listening to them. They are frustrated with the game; i.e. they didn't get what they want, or experienced something annoying. Every major online game has these 'game is dead' comments
Iv only just came back after not playing since launch and im enjoying my solo sloop travels so far. To me it really depends what time of day it is. If I play early morning I find its quiet and I can usually get things done I can't when more people are on. Then in the evening I dont even bother trying to do FOTD or SOSS because that's when all the try hards are on.
I played for like 3 hours yesterday just doing gold hoarder vaults and digs and had like 30 chests on my ship before handing in. Sometimes the game being quiet is good for us newer players.
I will say one thing tho. Rare need to kind of step up their game with adding content. One thing id like to see is something other then a Meg or a Kraken attacking you, maybe add some more sea monsters like the Hydra.
I plan to be one of the last people on the sea of thieves, the game won’t die as long as the developers keep supporting the game like they’ve been
Then we should die togehter on the Sea of Thieves when Day X arrives one day, raising our tankyard and playing our instruments for a last time 🙂
And with the release on PS5, it stepped out of the grave entirely...if it's even been in there to begin with
Me and a friend just started playing again for the first time since 2019 after me only having like 20 hours in it previously and it is MILES better than I remember it.
So much fun, we’ve been grinding every day for like 3 weeks now lmfao
what killed the game for me is the aggressive pvp in the game.
If Sea of Thieves isn't dead, then why don't they update it more? For a "live-service game", their offerings are pitiful.
its still great but the current issues that they have made trying to fix stuff and the lack of content isnt brilliant
Been playing daily about 4 years now (xbox), and still play every day but it is not the same as it was a couple years ago you can feel the difference for sure. If you want an idea of the player base, take a look at the monthly ledger stats. They average like 60,000 players in the stats per month and that only counts those making enough emissary money to rate in the ledger. So there's still a lot of players on it. But even as a long time player who still plays daily, I'm pretty bored with it now and only continue playing because there's nothing else like it. There's no other naval or pirate type open world sandbox, which is kinda surprising. I have most the cosmetics, am sitting on like 23 million gold on top of that with nothing to really spend it on, and have most the commendations I'm interested in. Lately I've just been hopping open crews and that keeps it spicy because different people bring a different experience and I've landed on some cool crews.
Just downloaded the game on PS5. Watch out, here I come!
I wish PlayStation could play SoT. That would expand the community so much
I feel this way too, I've wanted to play since it was first announced, but I have no inclination to get the lastest xbox game station.
With the game devs being absolute idiots and removing everything in the game that requires any type of skill in the game. Along with monkey island was terrible. The game devs don’t care about half the player base so yeah the game devs are trying to get the og’s off the game
I mean rare is actively trying to kill there game I mean it’s what it seems like at least. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE SERVER QUALITY. Hit reg has been a big problem for soooooo long. hackers were a problem for a YEAR straight it almost seems like they gave up on the game. I mean sot could not die if the game devs worked more then 3 days a week instead of throwing party’s at there headquarters half the time
the most vocal people online are those who view the game as a competetive pvp game. people dont engage in pvp very often, so they see the game as dead, and vocalise their thoughts on places like twitter. thats why most people talking about the game are complaining. also, people who are happy with things are less likely to speak about it, so barely any people vocalise how they love the game
i was agreeing to everything he said up to "maybe skull and bones can fill that void". lol big NO, we play for the unique mechanincs and tools that this games provides to paint the white canvas that is a PvP encounter. You can do harpoon turns, use stationary cannons, use blunderbombs to turn boats, activate quests to spawn random pve threats, deck shot, take on anothers person boat, use different type of amunition, win by pouring water to the other boat using only buckets, set a boat on fire, use kegs, hide for the precise moment to strike, be sword lord, be a double gunner, use cannon rowboats, break our own mast to hide behind an island or rock, eat worms to blind the enemy when boarding, you get me. Competitive or PvP lads like me remain here because there is no other game that has this many unique ways to PvP or steal something from someone. It's not all about "iron ball go hit other boat = me happy" skull and bones takes away almost 80% of what is fun for me you dont even have to know how to naval because you have cannons in all parts of the boat making you have 360° angle to shoot
Yeah I feel you, honestly I couldn't care less about them removing double gun, I love this game for all the other things that involve the Player vs Player experience of it.
It is such a unique game, a unique feeling, seeing it drift away from what makes me love it is so depressing. I doubt any other game will ever manage to capture this.
Why do people call us "competitive" players? I'm not gaining anything by playing the game this way, I'm not raising on any ranking, I don't care about the money from selling loot. I just wanted the experience...
Thank YOU! Tired of these no life hardcore players trying to force things in their direction. They always seem to scream the loudest too. On EVERY popular game they infest it like roaches and try to antifa bully the devs into doing their bidding. I have always looked at the game as an adventure game not some sort of ocean Fortnight pvp match. You're supposed to explore, find treasure, and even steal treasure when you can. NOT spend the day harassing people over and over again with your 1337 exploits. The game isn't dead, the tryhards just got bored and moved on, all except for the most dedicated streamers and hackers.
Sea of thieves is such a good game. i just wish more people played 😭
If all it took was PvE'rs saying "Leave us alone" to chase off PvP'ers, more would.
hopefully PvE servers brings in money for rare so they can afford better servers and bring arena back
@@sSteppingStones they won't brig Arena back, cause only you and four other guys (obviously exaggerating, but you should get the point) liked it.
I must be playing another game, cause my servers are occasionally close to full. If your servers aren't full, it's because a lot of people play the game hence the need for a lot of servers.
@@nerddotcom5817 L take the game is supposed to be both pve and pvp.
If you don't like it the game is not for you
Whenever i play: doesnt see another player ship for hours on end to the point i can complete world events solo without worrying about other pirates tucking
Yea nowadays its rare to find other players. Back then u found way more
@@NoisRit's really not now theirs just more shit to do so crews are often more spread out
@@ElroyTheTwost so i say its rare to find people and u say its not rare but then u proof my point by saying theres more to do so crews are more spread out... so what is it? :D
The fact the game is not on its death bed, doesnt mean its healthy. In terms of new content added and existing issues, were going in a downward curve
Ships being able to catch fire kind of ruined it for me as a solo player. Not only do you have to manage everything in the sloop alone, now you need to fend off fires as well. It became annoying
I just think you need to micromanage better
@@Criispy___ Such a brain dead reply lmao
@@beardedlonewolf7695 sure buddy, just get good
Game may not be dead but is sure feels dead when playing it. The lobbies I’ve been getting are virtually empty and boring. I’ve experienced everything there is in the game, and since I’m not encountering people at all most of the time there is nothing new for me.
I noticed this as well, but it turned out that my geographical region is just not very populated. Using a VPN to connect to game servers in California, Texas, or Great Britain and I'm constantly finding full lobbies with forts of the damned going on, minute or less hourglass queues, active skull of siren songs. I think Rare needs to look at how their network infrastructure connects people.
Due to work and other boring things I play maybe once a month and everytime I log on something new is happening. Theres no way a game that consistently releases video updates and listens to players for quality of life changes is a dead game. Getting bored in a game doesn't mean its dead, its just not what you expected or you've changed taste in your game preferences.
I personally believe sea of thieves is on the decline
This never even crossed my mind, and I love this game
The game may not be dead but it may as well be tbh.
May sound dumb but if im being honest, the only reason i stopped playing SoT is because of the sailing part in between the fun parts. Sometimes the sailing just drained all my longing to keep playing out of me, nothing really happens, i know it sounds dumb but i really felt like i was wasting my time because the sailing parts were longer than the other parts. I just wish they would add some distractions/small events for players to just enjoy while sailing. Imagine dolphins or a whale coming out of the ocean for a split moment. Or Birds flying alongside your ship. Just something that will make the ride pass faster, distractions basically.
Have you tried fishing?
@@patrickk5806 Yup. Im more talking about some random world events, maybe some dolphins next to the ship, a whale sighting, flock of birds flying next to your ship for a moment yk
I want to pick up the game again but now its a "make your own fun" game wich is more fun to do in GTAV or any game so if they dont add BOUNTIES for GOLD into the game or MAELSTROMS i dont find myself wanting to pick this up again even if my channel is centered around it
just bc sot isn't INTENDED to be a comp pvp game, doesn't mean you should actively punish those players who, after playing the game normally, get bored and get good at pvp. All the people crying about qs are NOT in the comp community and aren't really affected by it anyway. You can still 2 tap people before they can eat and any competent player, especially comp players, will still be easily able to sink those people. Catering to the comp side of a game is one thing, and it's ok sot isn't doing that. But ACTIVELY alienating those who spent thousands of hours on sot pvp because they simply enjoyed it, now that's kinda fucked. at least in my opinion it is. When people go as far as spending thousands of hours playing pvp, hosting their own tournaments, etc. you don't just remove such a huge chunk of what makes it fun and possible. if you don't want these people in adventure, give them back arena with private proxies. let them host their tournaments, play their tdms and queue for pvp outside of adventure.
I believe the #1 problem IS HOURGLASS. with pve people, who don't play sot for the pvp and who possibly despise pvp, the hg rewards are OBVIOUSLY still very tempting. but when they run into more competent players, instead of blaming themselves and getting better, they blame ANYTHING other than their own mistakes. and these players are sadly the majority. by putting comp pvp into adventure, rare effectively forced those pvp-loving players onto those, who hate pvp. now the majority of players is complaining about pvp instead of getting good or getting other rewards and rare is forced to take action because those pve players are the players who spent the most amount of money on sot.
Rare essentially caused a problem by forcing pvp lovers onto pvp haters and is now punishing pvp players for playing pvp in the pvp gamemode. no pvp player wanted this though.
*also, private arena proxies would allow anyone to practice pvp, making pvp more accessible for everyone to get into. they're adding priv servers for pve, why not for pvp too?
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT!
This is not a competitive game! Stop trying to make every game that has multiplayer out to be a damn E-sport! Seriously!!
I play sea of thieves
kinda feels like sot is trying to get rid of me
They brag about having millions of players starting but never tell us the current numbers playing which should tell you a LOT, willing to bet less than 25% of those "millions" have even logged in in the last 6 months
People always get tricked by Steam Charts, either not understanding how it works or other factors (like playing on other platforms)
And aside from that, I think ""dead game"" is a really stupid type of term in the gaming ecosystem. As far as I'm concerned, no game is "dead" as long as people are playing it or talking about it, or developers are updating it. Ironically, by calling SoT a "dead game", you're directly participating by keeping it alive by interacting with its community,, even if it's out of contempt for what's going on with it.
I really hate how divided everyone is on this... Can't we all accept sot is a creative sandbox? There are many playstyles.
Getting mad at a sword lord or getting mad at double gunner... Neither are wrong.
Double gunners believe the sword lunge to islands IS an exploit and therefore want to keep their quick swap exploit.
Sword lords believe quick swapping is an exploit and believe sword lunging to islands is NOT an exploit.
Yea it is dead rn. The server is dead💀
If people don't like it, then they're welcome to leave. I'll leave when Rare switch off the last server. My wife and I love playing it, a few missions, rack a bit of gold, get our asses handed to us every so often, it's all good fun.
The argument is the game is a high risk high reward style of gameplay, but not everyone who wants to play it cares about the risk to reward and just want to sail the seas and find/dig up treasure, without the risk of spending a couple of hours gathering only to lose all the gold and exp earned in that time due to “its pvp bro, it’s sea of thieves not sea of friends”
Which makes sense why they finally added safer seas which is pure pve even though you take a 70% hit to earnings and only get 30% of what you would earn in high seas (multiplayer mode), but honestly I think they will revise that when they see how much safer seas draws people in more than high seas.
"Sea of thieves is not dead"
Usually posted by content creators who are paid out by the game developers as a last ditch effort to save the game.
It's like nobody is listening to us, community who pays into supporting the game and what we as players want. Its always about the money, just follow it.
Tomato-Tomato
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if absolute pixel was being paid by the devs he would probably upload more. get your head out your ass
4:20 its not an exploit 4:43 how come lots of sot content creators think the change shouldn't have happened tho, even blurbs thought that. And their is also that polls show (depending on the poll) between 40 and 60% of voters think the change shouldn't have happened/it was a bad decision. Rare just needs to accept they were wrong and revert it in the next patch.
Mad double gunner lmao
Honestly man your preaching, if the PvP isn't fun then there's nothing to do after hitting PL and you should just quit since the rest of the game is a slog of commendation grinding
@@killzone1401 what would u think if sword lunge 'exploit' got removed
yeah it would be stupid and most people would dislike it
“It’s not an exploit” you clearly don’t know what that word means. It’s very literally an exploit, like, by every single definition and context of the word, my guy. You don’t have to like it, but that doesn’t change facts, bud.
Edit: similarly the infamous sword lunge is an exploit too, the devs decided to keep it because they like it so much. I’m a sword main, and would be pissy too if they took it out, but it’s still an exploit (well, started as, but could be argued that it’s not anymore because they deliberately changed it to not be an exploit).
@@zebdawson3687 i refer you back to me previous reply
What is certain is that this game is definitely dead in Korea.(Maybe Japan too...)
I had no idea it would be run in such a mess.🤣
game is fun .PVP can be fun - but usually its boring af .If i want pvp thare are alot of games that are specialized in it and much more fast phased .You can waste hours in pvp fight to get nearly nothing . Its just not worth to participate in .Unless you are selfegobooster .
2:12 the website is bs :/ i saw a game with around 400 players (with players on servers) showing 50.000 players ._.
They have also stated that they have capped the number of players per server to a much lower amount in order to fix server preformance.
not true, they removed at most one crew. It's always been five ships, was briefly six now back to five.
wasn’t an exploit
I haven't seen anyone else online in weeks. Where is everyone?
These sweats always make me laugh out loud. 'Get gud' Gosh I cannot WAIT for them to find something else to do with their lives. Their constant nagging, criticism, childish behavior... They are just plain weird. Weird because no matter what : THEY ALWAYS COME GRINDING THAT GAME LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW. They are, for most of them, the most addicted individuals in the game. Better ignore EVERY word coming out of their disgruntled mouths.
Well the thing is they don't allow players to just play the game look at any other competitive games like WoW or CoD you dont need to be competitive it has other things to do in WoW you can turn world pvp on or off you can play in a pvp world or a pve world it allows players to play the game while SoT is all pvp you cant just play rhe game without worrying someone gonna get you it been like that since day 1 and what is the answer that they give people is "its okay to be toxic that what we want" well that gonna lead to a empty game like it is now how are you gonna get more pvp players when they cant even learn to play the game hence why people leave and come back
nah its dying
rare is killing the skill ceiling of this game and they can't keep hold of newer players long after an update because the engine sucks and the skilled players are going to chase them out
SOT is dying or already died due to the fkn trolls, its a great game and I love it, but I don't bother playing it anymore due to trolls like GTA online...
what ''trolls'' are you talking about, actual trolls or pirates in a pirate game?
@infinitypeaches3329 no no like legit troll players hahah, they just screw around and bother you and your mates after grinding for literal hours only to loose everything to some randoms which keep tracking you down just cause they saw you sail by them like wtf
@@nickh4280 they want your loot and treasure, if you wanna to keep it, fight for it.
but if you mean to say that you keep on sinking them and they keep coming back, that would be a little bit rude on their part. but that's not trolling, its just them being abit hard headed to come back again and again.
@captainshelf7 I rather grind and enjoy my loot than fight people for nothing just cause they are elazy to get the hard work done themselves mate.
The fact that we try to fight em off and they keep coming back is sad af and that's why they are killing the game.
Same like GTA online and Reddead, I love to go fishing, driving, hiking and all sorts in the game, but get ass clapped by some muppets. Where is the fun in that?
@@nickh4280 you've gotta fight em off so hard, they don't return. grinding for loot isn't difficult, just very time consuming. though it does suck when you sink an attacking boat only for it to not have any loot, and no supplies. The only issue MAYBE is fighting a war of attrition, but you could always stack back up. Btw If you're running an emissary, then the flag does mean you accept the risk of pvp and turns you into a shiny loot boat.
If loosing loot is this much of a problem then just sell at every opportunity to keep your boat light.
Thanks for making this video! I started to ignore these comments and play how I want to. And my life got better.
I think the best thing about Sea of Thieves is you can make the game whatever you want to. My favorite part of the game is player interactions; and that's where I've had the most fun. Shenanigans!
so why can i que with my buddy in hourglass everytime cuz we are the only ones on aus servers
He literally said Sea of thieves is a CASUAL game, And was the whole point Arena got removed, Gee i wonder why theres no players in hourglass, Its almost as if no one wants to play competetive :o
bro oce servers r dead idk what ur talkin about
@@luminaaaaa
I came back near the end of Season 9? Just before guilds and what not. I don't remember what season we're on even though I play lmao.
This game I got sick of in Season 6, because it seemed lackluster. But right now, the people I'm meeting and such. The game is feeling way better (when hit reg works) and I LOVE the game more than ever. I'm casual kinda. I'm not a hardcore PvPer I'm good at it, but pure pvp has become more dead since S6. A lot of people will just run from you, or aren't as amazing as it used to be in the old seasons. Which I don't love nor hate, it feels genuinely fair now. Because even in season 6. I knew about a friend of mine, who was cheating and I knew cheaters were getting away with it since he hasn't to this day been banned.
There are 30 million sea of thieves sales, an active player base of around 250,000 seems more likely
SOt can be better.. but its mean we need a SOT II
but.. to have more people on, the PVE thats is coming will help for that!
SOT is my favorite game, but i stop playuing it.. going on sea after work, having fun... but if someone take all my stuff in 2 minutes because is a tryharder.. fock thats sad.
But with the pve server, lots of people like me that dont want the pvp all days will be there!
Yeah, SoT is not really a competetive game. Not like Battlefield or COD at all.
But mate, the groundwork of SoT is stealing treasure and fighting each other for it.
That aspect needs to work right.
And some new weapons would be dope... 🙄
Games dying. Just like many before it. Mostly because the developers aren't addressing the issues many that left the community had with it. A stark lesson to be sure. Especially as a development team. You don't want your game to die? Listen to would be customers and or current ones. You show your player base you really don't care, what do you think happens? Certainly not having your product thrive. 🧐
I personally don't think the game is DEAD.. but its dying, seeing as it's not as popular as it used to be.
and Rare doing big things like Pirate life and Monkey island.. well how else will you get players back? ofc they need to come up with new things to bring back more players. that is just common sense.
It will take a Long time before the game is Dead Dead.. but losing Players it has and keeps doing, so Dying yes.. Dead No.
lets just hope Rare can fix all the Bugs and things that make the game so frustrating.
I noticed when you check emissary stats there's like 80 thousand in the gold ranks alone. That's 80 thousand players who have done Gold Hoarders emissary this month.
As much that I agree sea of thieves is casual AF, you can't deny that PvP forces you to play the game completely differently. Read, not in a casual AF way.
You can vibe in PVE, not in PVP.
People that are complaining about PvE servers are just sad they cant grief players now. Since you cant grief a true PvP player since they WANT to PvP and will fight back. lol
You know the funniest part? Even the sweatier stuff like Hourglass is more fun when you take it casually.
Sure is sweating your balls off and going for huge streaks a better gold/rep gain? Sure.
But you know what's more fun? Loading up your bow with a bunch of kegs, wait to be invaded, and then ram them with the kegs.
Or they blow up your kegs in your stupid face and call gg but you log off in silent anger and disappointment.
@@Razta_S Nah if they get the kegs before the ram goes off it's GGs.
Kegs are just funny regardless of where they are imo.
I’m all for PvP, but oh man did this game fall off for me when the average player I ran into was some ex rust double gunning giga sweat. I completely agree, sea of thieves is a casual game, and given how janky the models look and how badly the game performs when players attempt to play this game at a really high competitive level, it’s pretty clear to me rare never intended this game to be played the way a lot of the really sweaty players play it. I think this confusion is mostly due to the fact that the current PvEvP market is pretty much completely filled with very competitive games. As far as I’m aware I don’t think there is another casual PvEvP game out there. I’m at the point with the sea of thieves where I’ve done all I’m really interested in doing with it, and am currently just waiting for a content drop large enough to that will give me enough to do to return to playing this game regularly again. That being said, I did play when they dropped the sirens song world event and had the most fun I’ve had in the game in years. The removal of double gunning allowed for more drawn out fights between myself and the crews who were very obviously more skilled. The lack of hit reg as well made it feel so much better and overall I felt like I was back to when I only had 200 hours in the game. As much as people bemoan these changes, for me personally as someone who enjoys PvP but also doesn’t care enough to do aim trainer for the casual pirate game, and doesn’t have the dexterity in his digits for doing consistent specific button presses to hot swap my weapons, these changes have been nothing but good. To me the joy with this game has never been dominating another crew with my impressive ability to click on people or by showing off my prowess of performing unintended exploits on a consistent basis, all of my joy has spawned from coming up with rat brained strategies to steal treasure. For example, with the skull of sirens song, my crew mate and I were clearly outmatched by the three other crews who were also competing for it, so, instead, we took a rowboat to the island where they were going to sell it, allowed them to fight it out, and waited for them to approach the island close enough for brigsy to spawn. We then found her spawn location and hid a keg in a nearby bush and waited. The crew discovered my friend, but his death served as a good distraction as the crew seemed to assume they were safe after killing one persistent tucker. They approaches brigsy and I let fly a well placed blunder bomb and killed 2 of the 3 crew members on the spot, then before the third could react I stole the skull and sold it. That is the core of sea of thieves I love. That is what makes this game unique to me, that knowledge and strategy can and often will beat skill. If I wanted to tdm with players I’d go play cod, but I can’t steal treasure from people in cod who’ve been fighting back and forth over a single piece of loot for hours can I?
I don't know about all that, it seems to take forever to find someone to fight in PVP and if there is hundreds of thousands of players on all at once all of the server instances should be full and the gold reaper chest should always be on the horizon. But no, there is always server merges happening and sometimes the match making for PVP just gives up and spits you back at port.
You really have to differentiate what is consider a "competitive game" and what's an "e-sports game". Sea of Thieves is a game with PVP, stealing loot, fighting other crews and sinking ships, it's about heists, sneak plays and the urge of coming out on top. It's 100% a competitive game in that regard. You are competing with the other crew, no matter if it's a random encounter in Adventure or in Hourglass, you want to sink the other crew, you want to be victorious, you are competitive. Sure alot of people don't play Sea of Thieves this way, who only want to go on adventures, dig treasures and only fight if necessary. But in any game, if there's PVP=reward, there's going to be competitiveness.
You really just said everything I am thinking right now
I thought I could only enjoy SOT as a hardcore pvp master and sinking ships to gain dat booty but then I found myself relaxing on nice nights moving cargo :p
and then promptly unloading 20 cursed cannon balls on the reaper ship coming for me
I wonder if the game its really dying, if they will remove the game or let the their game for offline play. Because i hate that i have bought Minimum on Steam, and they killed all the things, didnt let the offline part working, and i hate that, if i pay for a game i want to keep it Forever working(offline)