Let's Talk About Nattramn & Silencer
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- Опубліковано 10 бер 2021
- Nattramn and Silencer, two names you've most likely heard of before. But how much do you know of the story of both? In this video essay, I attempt to explain a bit of the background of one of the darkest stories within heavy metal in general; a depiction of a man afflicted by extreme madness, mental illness and so much we couldn't hope to know, and how the recording of one of the most influential DSBM albums of all time turned into one of the most horrific stories ever told.
Do you believe these things are true? What is fact or fiction? Is there validation to these claims? Let me know your thoughts of Silencer, Nattramn and this general story in general down below. Can't wait to hear what you all think about this! Have a great one!
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Hey there! What're your thoughts of Nattramn and Silencer's stories as a whole? How do you feel about the music? Let me know down below! Thank you so much for watching! Cheers, and rock on, Review Family!
Phenomenal video, man
I just listened to the album and loved it. It's pretty sad and scary. However I feel like your video was kinda overblown and silly, lol (it was a good video tho). I seriously doubt Nattramn cut off his own hands.
Well, tbh, most of the stories surrounding Nattramn is just made up. I don't what and how much though. The most obvious one is that he cut off his hands and replaced them with those of a pig. That one is most certainly a made up story/rumor. I don't believe he got institutionalized, but it's more plausible. There's also another story where he almost killed a young girl with an axe, but that's definitely another rumor or fake story. If it was real, there surely would've been much more info and coverage about this event. It is most likely that he had or has some kind of mental illness though. Self harm is also possible. Though if it was to the extent that's been claimed, I doubt it. There's a DSBM band I really like called Shining. The vocalist & frontman of the band occasionally self harms. On photos you can often see his scars. I think Silencer & Shining introduced me to DSBM. It's not for everyone, but I absolutely love it!
Perhaps bit lengthy response, but hey.
sounds like my grandma when she caught me smoking pot in my room
Also you forgot about the time Nattramn attacked a 5 year girl with an axe
I don’t know if someone already said this but: In Swedish folklore a nattramn is the ghost of someone who took their own life. They usually appear as a bird, most often a raven.
I wonder if Dead (Per Ohlin) from Mayhem knew that, and that's why he picked a dead raven to inhale before concerts?
And yes, he did that to get himself "in character" before shows, in addition to burying his clothes in dirt
@@kh22912 oooh yes that’s a very interesting thought!
@@kh22912 Dead was just a tortured soul.
Died young. Died violently.
Fun fact: He died April 8th, 1992. The very same day that two years later, Kurt Cobain would be found dead. Both died the same way, both were in their mid 20's.
@@FortyWink what a crazy coincidence
@@FortyWinkfun fact??
Nattramn didn't commit suicide, never axed a 5 year old girl and never replaced his hands with pig feet. Everything about Nattramn on the imternet is just rumors. In his book called "Grishjarta" that consists pictures of Nattramn where he has normal hands.
He doesn't have a book. He cannot write, he has pigs feet for hands....
Of course he did "wink wink"
You'd have to be so gullible to believe he actually did that to himself. First of all, even a surgeon couldn't do it with fresh pig's feet that were JUST cut off a live pig that isn't sick or anything, as the human body would likely reject it as it even rejects human parts unless maybe taking meds that prevent the body from rejecting it. But no way he could just do that to himself or have an amateur do it and the pig's feet wouldn't likely be fresh enough to heal properly and not be rejected by the body. I've never even heard of pig organs being used you'd think if that were possible it'd be done all the time and there wouldn't be such demand for human donors.
Of course someone with bad enough mental health could ATTEMPT to do it with complications, that's a different story. But that myth implies they actually healed on properly. TBH I haven't watched this full video yet lol and have only heard this rumor before.
@@brians1793 I was joking I put "wink wink" ya cucklestein slobknobbin dokisbokisine
@@brians1793 I agree, but maybe he like taped them on and just “put” them on when he was taking a picture, idk that’s just what I thought it meant
"Alright, so now I've cut my hands off. Time to pick up the pigs feet... Oh, shit..."
Exactly what I thought
Yeah i don't think the whole natramn controversy is real at all but it's very interesting to read about none the less. Would definetly make a good creepypasta.
Haha, the creepypasta comparison's valid, honestly! It's sometimes hard to figure out what's true or false with some of the origins of those.
@@harley9804I've self-harmed while recording. I don't know why it is so hard to believe Abruptum have done that...
@Sergio-nb4hj It's not unbelievable ... Many people do it.. During recording, live shows, and simply doing mundane things... Nobody is denying that... But cutting your hands off with an axe and sowing pigs feet on them!?.. come on now!! That's physically impossible ... Silencer is an art project.. I am willing to bet that the blood in the pictures is fake ( although I might be wrong but I doubt it).. It's an art project telling the story of a fictional deranged man
Personally I find his vocals silly and not disturbing which makes it hard to take the music seriously. Hence why I've never been into this album as much as other people
Maybe he just works a very boring job and uses Nattram as a character to escape the mundane-ness
Seems like a very human thing to do. You’re probably onto something.
So like every guy in every metal band ever?
That is exactly what is going on... It's an art project.. Music, a novel, Photography... Nothing but art
Prepared myself for terror… then I heard the vocals and burst out laughing. Sounds like golem and cartman’s love child.
The screams are terrifying and great, but the actually singing does sound like cartman crying for his MEAM!!!! 😂
makes it more horrifying imo, cause it doesnt sound cool whatsoever its more deranged
This band is like a living creepypasta story.
I can not take nattramn seriously, he sounds like Mr Hanky the Christmas Poo. All I can picture is Mr Hanky saying "Oooo Cut me kill me take my life" and it's hilarious.
The story of him chopping off his hands are absolute garbage, but it’s still shocking if your not familiar with the story. I personally find his vocals to be hilarious because he sounds like old school Eric Cartman at times
Or like the clown from deathclock lol
Someone compared Attila's vocals on Seventh Day of Doom to Cartman and I can't unhear it
He sounds loke Yoda dying of throat cancer!
Yes living in the north can cause depression and mental illness. I live in Northern canada, full blown winter lasts from October to May and the darkness is lingering. There is a suicide once if not twice a month in my town.
I don't believe that.
@@gordonpeterson678 he’s not even lying that’s the thing
I live in northern Canada too and for me it's the summer that is depressing lol I love cold and dark days
These dives into obscure black metal are really really great. Your review videos are not my thing, but if you keep making stuff like this I'll be coming back! Keep it up
Thank you so much! I'm DEFINITELY planning a TON more video essay related videos upcoming, some of which already have scripts ready and are awaiting recordings, so just look out for those! Some might not be up your alley, but I'm definitely going to do more of them as I really enjoy it! :)
What’s weird is that their videos have like 3 million views
The begining of the first song sounded like Yoda 😂
I heard it years back, a german Metal UA-camr (Der Dunkle Parabelritter) made a Video about the most legendary crimes in Black Metal, and this Story was part of it too. It is very interesting and I guess the truth is one of the best kept secrets in Metal. And even tho I am not a fan of this muic, I have Lots of respect for the story alone.... Anyway, cool Video, I like the series 👍 Another interesting topic would be the Stallagh project
This is such a well-produced video, really awesome work, I just wish more people knew about it...
One of the very best DSBM albums ever made, if not the best
Halmstad is the best dsbm album
@@joeyperez6584 Respectfully disagree. Death Pierce Me is much, much stronger imo
I always thought he sounded like 2 cats fighting
One of a kind artist even in mental illness and the sorrow.. still put out one of a kind material
I’m sorry but the way he sounds during his shrieking sounds like the equivalent of a looney tunes character shouting “whaaaa-hoooo” after sitting on something hot 😂
i wont be able to unhear it now PLSS
That guy just saw the cover art from Embrace's 1987 album and said "I wanna do that! ... with a bs backstory"
The first song sounds like drunk Yoda doing karaoke 😂 The second one sounds like SNL did a black metal sketch. 😂😂
I only just got around to commenting on this. Yeah, let's just say the music displayed in this video is quite unsettling, to say the least, and that's coming from somebody who has heard and seen the weirdest shit. 🙂
Also sick intro by Michael! Adds a really nice eerie touch to your editing specifically in this video. I appreciate how much effort you put into your video essays. ♡
Thank you so much! I REALLY enjoy making video essays as a whole and I am happy others enjoy and appreciate them as well. Makes it feel worth it to share these stories! And yeah! Coming from someone that's heard just about everything that could freak someone out, it still makes me feel uneasy, haha.
3:46 did you misspeak here? This isn't a picture of anyone in Silencer, it's Jan from Trist, another legendary DSBM band
Nah, haha. Considering there is minimal imagery associated with this project, I included various images that correlated to the genre for ambiance/to carry the story along. :) cheers
Best part is the papyrus font.
Varg style
Nattramn is one of my favorite music artists
Probably top 10 or Top 5
I love all of his projects.
What other projects does he have?
This side of black metal is rubbish that I really couldn't care less for. As for Nattramn, I have heard this story in the past. As soon as you mentioned the pig's hands, I immediately remembered it. Mental illness is definitely a factor in all of this. There seems to be something very wrong in the minds of many of these Scandinavian musicians. I do notice some patterns with them, but that's a discussion for another time. In some cases, it has to do with art and expression, but I also think that there is a little more to it. Part of me wonders if this kind of stuff--"art", as they call it--can be traced back to Vincent van Gogh, the painter who cut off his own ear.
@@UJJYY Oh, I totally agree with you! The weather and depressing landscape has an impact on people's psyche. I was born and raised in Canada, and it's the same northern shit of a culture. Cold attitudes, white-people paranoia, everything is expensive, mental health is thrown into everything... I totally get it. I just wonder, about the part where people don't fit the societal mold, how does that affect a cis-straight man to that extreme extent? That's something I wish to have explained one day. Cheers.
Edit: Anti-depressants are extremely common here as well.
@@UJJYY Interesting. What you describe sounds exactly like Canada and America. You can be white, cis, heterosexual, rich, married, and have the entire American dream, but there is always something that's still wrong with you. The West is a funny place.
@@ademcanvaner2567 eh.... i personally love DSBM but i can see why someone would dislike it
Bethlehem does nsbsm much better than silencer.
I’m super late to replying to your comment, but have to say I 100% agree. I used to be pretty into black metal when I was like 15. I was going through a really hard time and found that black metal in particular, with the agonising vocals and all, helped me a bit to get through it & sort of resonated with me. However, the history regarding all of these weird Scandinavian metal musicians is super dark & twisted, and there definitely seems to be something messed up about them. They all seem to have really traumatised minds/psyches or often just straight up become psychopaths & criminals. It’s weird for sure, and some of the more outrageous and outlandish behaviour of certain edgy metal musicians really puts me off from still enjoying the genre & the various subcultures from it.
"The following music may be disturbing / unsettling to some. Depression is advised."
u didnt show us the intro of sterile nails - the most melancholic intro of all dsbm genre
Great storytelling.. this was seriously creepy asf.
I would argue that Silencer was heavily influenced by dictius te necare, and Bethlehem probably had the biggest influence on the DSBM.
This is a crazy story! 😰
Thanks for checking it out! Really is something huh?!
The pig's hands were held under the bandages, you can see his fists under them in a couple places
While I do think most of the things people have talked about him whether you believe it or not. The only thing that I would say that is the most BELIEVABLE story is about him self-harming during the recording of his album.
As a complete black metal fan and listen to these lot all the time, I like to watch these to see what speople have to say about these lot
He sounds like a fuckin skeksis but i really dig the album.
The problem is that I can’t listen to them without laughing at the ridiculous noises he makes.
I was really listening to this with reverence and rapt attention. Then you played their music and it sounded like Spongebob when he thought the Hash-Slinging Slasher was gonna get him.
Is it bad that i can achive simular vocals to him?
it's actually good
make a band please
Make a band or link up with an instrumentalist
Quite a complex and scary story. Take it fact or fiction, it is scary great. Though I feel bad for the man.
Also, heard your recent Pokemon-based rap battle, you did awesome. Also, a Pokemon RPG is coming in 2022 and Diamond and Pearl remakes are coming this Fall.
Agreed. Glad you enjoyed! And thank you very much, I'm glad you liked the battle! I'm very excited for those remakes as well, as they were my first gen!
@@TheMetalTempestYT Anytime.
This Video is great!
Even Niklas (Shining ) finds Casado and Nattramn to be two poseurs of the highest order ...that alone should speak volumes...
lmao. You where hyping his vocals up as unsettling and disturbing.. when the clip played I couldn't hold my laughter over that autistic screetching that sounded like a 10 year old who discovered Mayhem and wants to emulate the vocals
It's autistic screeching and that's why I love it
Great Video!
You should totally do a video like this on GG Allin 😁
That's funny I'm down a GG Allin rabbit hole and that's what led me here
Um, this shit was just a joke, I am laughing my ass off at his LANDFERMANN impression.
Lol. I wasn't expecting it to sound like a Skeksi in mating season.
1:19 can someone please tell me where that picture is from?
Good luck
When I heard their music for the first time I was 13 years old and I gave up listening to metal for a week bc I legit thought he did all that stuff. 8 years later I cant help but laugh at how ridiculously stupid his voice sounds.
Probably I'm insane too I consider this high quality art... besides all criminal things he was supposed to have done, his music and bloody art was straight out of his soul, mentally ill yes, but still pure art. I don't support self harm and ffs don't do it, but I still find his art haunting and appealing to my soul.
love this band and love this video
Cool costume.
Hail Nattram!
It’s a showbiz baby, do not believe in bollocks
Nothing about this is complex at all. The amount of comments I'm seeing about it and your video show how poorly researched and how little any of you know. His brother was the one who committed the attack on the girl and he killed himself in the psychiatric hospital not long after. The fact any of you have to state that he didn't actually cut his hands off and sew pigs hands on is just laughable - of course he didnt do it. Nattramn was the main suspect of a double murder of an 8 year old and a 54 year old in 2004, however only recently were they able to use DNA to prove who did it. A 34 year old man has been sent to a psychiatric hospital for the crimes and according to his website this is not Nattramn. Research better next time its embarrassing you call this a "video essay".
It's the Skeksis Chamberlain!
I really don't understand that persons who think the vocals are laughable.
Holy shit thats such a good album tho
To me bethlehem sounds much sicker, especially on their album "dictius te necare"
Good vid
I've heard that he saw the Kentucky Derby last year & he's gonna replace his pigs feet hands to horse hoofs hands.
God forbid he watches the Daytona 500 next year, tires are expensive
papyrus font
Oh yeah.. the band Eric Cartman was in...
It's good music lol the rest all an act . Someone like him would have old scars that are clearly visible . His skin look soft and smooth with not a scar in sight like he just plays dnd for life . I bought the death peirce me cd book thing with all the pics they took and they are clear. No scars at all . It's just music
Why did he not talk about Ödelagt?
No!!!
Thanks for this Premium-Content
hail silencer hail natramn
DSBM is one of my favourite kinds of black metal, I understand the pain some artist go through.... Shure some stuff is just a hole lot of bullshit and it's for the sake of Painful artistic showcase or something.乁( •_• )ㄏ But it's still very interesting
I hate Nattramn but i love his music.
Is this depresev black metal
you missed the part where he commited a violent crime against a young girl and thats why he was institutionalized.
idk about now days but back around 12 years ago there were official news stories online about it but the details were as few as most other info regarding Silencer/ Nattram
It was his brother patrik that took an axe and hit 2 girls, one pretty severe..He took his own life shortly after..
What could have pushed him this far tho?
Situation lebensgefer might be a hint
Balls
I’ve read Nattramn drove an ax to a young girl’s head after escaping from the mental institution?
I’ve heard this too I’m not sure if it is true or not
@@IBEXMOON666 it was his brother who did the axing
His brother did that
Love your pigs matey!
Not a fan of black metal, but this is interesting.
Silencer is ok for a Bethlehem copy band
If you actually listen to the music, it becomes pretty clear that this is all a "schtick". The vocals obviously staged, and the backstory is just that, a story.
The pained vocal sounds a lot like the on and off vokills of Bethlehem from Germany forget his name now
But the last Bethlehem i heard was
A lady on vocals ,oneliner from nocturnal mortem .Good stuff
you can see in the pictures he didn’t actually cut off his hands, his hands are visible under the bandages and GOD WE ALL KNOW YOU’D DIE IF YOU CUT OFF YOUR HAND BY YOUR SELF AT HOME DUH. Also people would know if someone tried to kill a kid with an axe, i’d make headlines. They’re just trying gain clout
Stop spreading misinformation!
LOL
He sounds like smeagle
People who need DSBM Are the Luckiest People in the World 🤘
good band. good music. too bad theres just the one album
truekvlt
The bogeyman of metal
What are you talking about man this is not true he never did that why are you trying to fool us or something
songs voice sounds like a kid crying XD
I would call this misinformation or like 10 percent information. Do your research bud.
So we celebrate nutters now, huh ?
This never happened its just good to know about it
it did happen
Hmhm dsbm actually stands for depressive suicidal black metal not depressing suicidal black metal
Fucking hilarious 😂
Or is it just black metal music with a different sound
Well no cause it talks about other stuff but is Similiar
"who knows what" what a load of BS
the official pronunciation of Diagnose: Lebensgefahr is "Di-ag-nose, La-bens-Gha-Far"
i literally woke up to 'pierce me', an jus discovering this band and omfg. the stories behind this whole band..
The most insane people are always the greatest artists, its awful
Dude, the vocals are shit on that silencer album. Look to Dictius Te Necare for excellent suicidal black metal vocals.
No
They’re good lmao