Am I crazy or when Venom answers "Yes we will" to Kraven (I assume it's Kraven) and then we see the black spider logo, this alludes to a playable Venom?
It could be so many things. Additionally to what you theorized, it could be that Kraven ends up getting a venom suit and the "we" refers to themselves. It could be that Venom also will fight Kraven. We saw coop moves with Miles so maybe Venom eventually teams up against Kraven and then... you have coop moves with Venom.
Game will be first half half miles/peter vs venom (with peter trying to win Harry over), then kraven beating all of their asses leading to a team up/playable venom.
Weird thing is I had Kid A ripped to my OG Xbox and listened to it a LOT while playing Tony Hawk 2X. So where everyone else has Superman ingrained in their head as indelible to Tony Hawk, I have Everything In It’s Place. Incidentally, punk is great, but Tony Hawk is way better with a moodier soundtrack.
If you watch the Spider Man 2 trailer, the number 1048 is the address of the restaurant in the first shot 50:28. You can also see it at 46:47 on the fridge in the Wolverine teaser. Earth 1048 is the earth that the first two Spider-man game's took place in so a connected game universe is basically confirmed!
not sure if anyone picked up but the Forspoken engine is the evolved Luminous engine that was used for FF15. The DNA is clear as day but so much more glorious.
@@dannysandoval8296 Jackman isn’t even going to be playing Wolverine in the cinematic universe anymore anyways, so why would he voice the game? Wouldn’t make much sense really.
Castlevania music? How dare you, that’s the GT4 theme! Put some respect on the Gran Turismo name. Also this is a joke but seriously Moon Over the Castle, great tune, check it out.
Who's fault is it in this case? Did Sony announce it too early? Cause since then they've been plugging it EVERYWHERE. Did Arkane make too many trailers and they tried to plug it at even more events? I guess we'll see if sales are on their side to be certain if it worked or not.
That wasn’t Dishoneored 2a problem. Dishonored 2 sufferered from their marketing leaning way too heavily on marketing “story” to a market where only 30% of players finish games. It’s the same problem Halo is having now. Nobody cares about story as much as everyone pretends to care about story. The statistics speak for themselves. Nobody is finishing these stories.
@@dreamerabe I mean, that's what people say, but are they actually out or were they already skeptical? What about the amount of people reached by having so many trailers. They're probably banking on winning more people over by having "too many" trailers than the people they'd lose.
@@JazGalaxy Oddest take I've seen in a while. People can't finish games because games take long to finish and most gamers aren't that hardcore, but that doesn't mean people don't like stories or playing narrative driven games.
@@samfincher45 how is it disrespectful if you don't acknowledge things like these? Ian can do whatever the flip he wants, I still respect his opinions and everything. But I am against transitioning as I think this thing has deeper roots then wanting to be a different gender, it's more like being lost with your own identity, in my opinion people should try to find the reasons why they are unhappy instead of changing their sex to whatever they like and wanting other to accept this. Trans people have one of the highest suicide rates, do you think this comes from nothing or could it be that this is an issue that is not talked about because of political correctness? So please before saying I'm disrespectful read my words and try to understand them.
I guess I'm in a camp all by myself with my hype for Guardians of the Galaxy. I think it looks decent, the squad commands for gameplay, I'm excited about, the jokes work for me, and I'm overall excited about it. But I guess that's just me at this point
now that it’s out, how do you feel about it? I loved it but it would be cool if there was a horde/wave mode or something similar to the combat simulator in FF7R, the game just reminds me of FF7R in certain elements haha
@@NickKS57 really enjoyed it all the way throught. And I agree I wish there something extra to do after the game, or maybe so unlocks to go along with new game plus.
I can't with Isla's incidental Pikachu ears!!!... that's way too cute. Can we make it so Isla only shows with Pikachu ears from now on!!! Let's start a petition on it! 😊😊
The Guardians of the Galaxy, remind me so much of the 80s Transformers the animated movie (The-Greatest-One-and-half-hour-Transformers-Music-Video-Ever). It nails the 80s space/ rock video for me
It's tough watching people insist something is one thing when you know for a fact it's not. Isla and Huber: "Parasite Eve, Parasite Eve!" Me: It's not. They are speaking Korean. I wish I could talk through the stream and tell you that. Isla and Huber: Is it Parasite Eve?! Me: Ugh...
For me it's the gameplay that I'm on the fence with. What they showed was very very mediocre looking. I think it's very worrying that they are so shy to show more or an actual walkthrough so close to launch. The rest looks fine and the art direction is pretty cool looking.
@@Ayoul the worst shot of the game is where they show Starlord running forward shooting his guns while they flash different landscapes as background. It’s meant to be a cool shot showcasing the different environments but really it looks like they are saying you do the same boring thing across the entire game.
Castlevania's reaction was hilarious, but no, that's the main theme from GT4. I agree though, a new Castlevania needs to happen, with the popularity of the Netflix show I feel like it might be time for a 3D entry to try again.
while everyone trying to capitalize on the Avengers trend with groups of super heroes like Guardians of the Galaxy, Sony here just slowly taking the solo Marvel character approach, imagine if the announce Dead pool from insomniac games xD
Not sure why you are reading some Kind of genius into that. There’s been singular hero games and team hero games as long as there have been hero games. There was a Wolverine game not all that long ago. (Depending on how old you are and what counts as not that long ago)
I do think people should keep expectations in check for that one. I feel like people expect Demon's Souls scale, but it's just not the same caliber of studio.
There is NO licensing issue for Marvel _games._ Sony owns the Spider-Man movie rights, but has no legal hold over him in any video games. The fact that Spider-Man projects often _favor_ Sony platforms is more of a "brand loyalty/cross promotion" thing, so if Marvel ever wants to do something with Spidey as a game, Sony has no say in the matter. I don't see any reason they could not tie the Wolverine and Spidey games into the same universe, especially with Insomniac doing both. There shouldn't even be any reason why they wouldn't be able to cross over a game made by an entirely different company. The _only_ issue would be that when Insomniac makes content unique to their game, like Spidey's PS4 costume, they own that, and Marvel then had to license those rights back to use it in some other project. So if they did a crossover game with a different company, they might have to clear some art assets or something. No reason they couldn't just "declare" a shared universe though.
Some of those things sound off. There's no way Marvel has to license things from Insomniac. It's the other way around. The only reason why Spider-Man things favor playstation is because Sony is paying for it. The rest about characters hopping between games is right though. The only reason why they might not (at least of now) is more about creative control, cohesion and the challenges of working with different studios. Making movies in a single universe is quite easy since multiple movies come out in a year, a single person can oversee each 2 hours or so story, etc. Games take much longer, get delayed (which would impact other projects) and are much more iterative. That said, no reason why you couldn't see winks or a quick mission where either character shows up if the licenses are cleared up.
@@Ayoul Copyright is complicated. The work Insomniac does is typically their property, they are just leasing out the stuff Marvel gave them too. This has happened in the past where a licensed game has done a thing, and then the comics or other projects has not been able to use it. It's definitely been an issue with the movies, where any costume used for a Fox/Sony movie character could not be used in a Marvel game, while MCU costumes could. Now Marvel's handshake with Sony over Spider-Man means that his MCU costumes and stuff can be in Marvel games, but it's not 100%. If Marvel rents out the license to Insomniac to make a Spider-Man game, _typically_ that is a one-way street. That doesn't mean that Insomniac can just make figures or t-shirts of Spider-Man from their game without penalty, but ti does mean that Marvel cannot use those costume for anything of theirs without Insomniac agreeing. It's possible that their current contract automatically hands those rights over, but not always. Think of it this way, since it's a fairly simple example, say there's a song, "Yesterday" by the Beetles or something. A musician licenses out that song because they want to make a cover, and they do so, changing up a lot of elements, but still being close enough that he would get sued without the license. This does not, however, mean that the Beetles license holder would then be allowed to just use this altered version of the piece as they see fit, the second musician would own _this_ version of the song and its unique features, just as a sub-license of the original. To the second point, yeah, having games where A leads directly into B which leads directly into C would be a production nightmare, but they could at least _reference_ each other in ways that are not spoilery, on the off chance that B comes out before A, and they could also work in "stages," where A, B, and C are only loosely connected, but so are D, E, and F, which come out years after any of them, so don't need to worry about spoiling anything from the first three games.
It's a marketing/business move. If anyone other than Insomniac comes up with a Spiderman game... will you play it, will it be better? It could happen, but it'll be really hard for anyone to eat up the upfront cash to get rights to publish/develop such game. You'll need to guaranty millions in sales to pay just for the license deal.
@@Ayoul Actually, getting a Spider-Man game out that is not taking any content from the current MCU or Sony Movie space will be very hard. You'll need to dig really deep into the comics from the past or come up with an entirely new universe for Spidy, because if Sony puts it in a movie, you will have to go with the Avengers route, were you have alternate versions of characters and will alienate the fans/consumers.
@@KravenVanDrakken Not exactly. A Spider-Man game could NEVER get in trouble for "overlapping" content from a Spider-Man movie. Not unless they got _super_ close. Like if you basically made a game that was "Spider-Man: Far from Home," but didn't call it that, then yeah, Sony might get involved. They would have an uphill battle claiming you were stealing from _them_ though, especially if you were just borrowing and combining elements that had already appeared in the comics. If you just did a movie about Spider-Man vs. Mysterio, even in Europe, you could probably get away with that. Marvel would, of course, eat you alive if you didn't have _their_ permission. So the existence of the Sony movies does almost nothing to hamper creativity in Spidey games. Now, when Marvel signed the deal with Sony/Insomniac to make Marvel's Spider-Man PS4, and the subsequent games, they might have included language that would prevent any other types of "Spider-Man solo games" for a limited time, and _that_ might prevent any other studio from makign a Spider-Man game, but that would be separate from the Sony movie deal, and likely much more limited in timeframe. Like if Marvel was annoyed at Insomniac and didn't approve of Spider-Man 2, they could likely already have a different game in development elsewhere.
I’d love to get some clarification from Isla on how Project Eve is “tone deaf” for having parasite and eve in the trailer? Like seriously, Parasite Eve is nearly a quarter of a decade old. Then in the post show mentioning how you don’t like character action games. Sure that may very well be true but you were still very much hyped watching the trailer until you didn’t get what you want. It just seems like a salty take.
I don't know much about Norse Myth. So I could've really done without the Tyr spoiler. Now I will pay the game with that constantly in the back of my mind. Please be mindfull of that in the future, Isla.
Does anyone know what Barlog was going on about at the end of the GOW interview? I can't tell if he was making a joke I didn't get, or he was rambling while tired. Cuz sounds like something i would've said without my coffee haha
As someone that really likes japanese games, i was let down but i can understand that this showcase was good for most people.......still no silent hill ? ( i mean did you guys see the PT demo, its still impressive so imagine a whole Game!)
Sometimes the Allies are too caught up on their own inside jokes or ideas, like constantly thinking Project EVE had anything to do with Parasite Eve when anyone could see it was basically a korean version of Bayonetta.
It's not even a new game either. I feel like it's the kind of thing at least one of them should be aware of. Also, pretty clearly korean language and not japanese (which Blood knows some of and could've pointed out).
@@lucasromerova6150 I mean, she's right though. I think some of those jokes fell flat due to bad editing, but it's a recurring thing with that game's trailers.
Lol I love Huber when he goes “just a 10/10 game, no big deal” when talking about Uncharted. He’s so right though, just two 10/10’s. I think Uncharted 4 is the best one made - I think Isla should go back and play it
This was a solid showcase, good announcements, but some pacing issues. And some fat that definitely should have been trimmed (Deathloop again, seriously...). 1 or 2 additional announcements would have been nice. Sony seems to prefer keeping a lot of things under wraps this time around. They told us there are 25 first party games in development and even after this showcase we still only know a handful of those.
The guy at 1:38:28 with his squid really looks like Richard Schiff imo.. They may have ruined this character bc for me it seems like he is Odin who will meet Kratos and Atreus along their way. He’s also wearing a monocle on his right eye (which is the eye he payed with for the acquisition of wisdom).
38:30 I had the same reaction, this 5th? trailer with literally nothing new to show really annoyed me and was what cemented that I'm absolutely not buying deathloop on release or anytime soon. Whoevers in charge of marketing for this game needs to fired. And I'm talking like fired out of a canon. Who
Closer to last 10 if we include the wolverine tease and for me who's not a racing game guy, it's more like the last 7min that saved the show. Super hyped for those 7 mins, but I can't help but feel like most of it was not all that exciting. I don't even mind seeing some older games again, but at least show something cool. Guardians, Deathloop, Forespoken, etc didn't do that for me. Maybe I'm super jaded now though lmao.
@@Ayoul I feel you, I couldn’t care less about anything that doesn’t have the PS Studios logo on it. Might have to buy a PS5 now. Good thing they didn’t tease or showed anything Metal Gear at the end, I would of literally gotten a heart attack.
PS audience is larger and more diverse than you might think. I'd admit to a Deathloop fatigue... and I have not even played the loop of that game 🤭🤭🤦🏽♂️
Great show. Really fun to see their reactions to Wolverine and some others. Great energy allies. :) I know it’s stupid but I kinda wish I didn’t hear some of the rapid fire lore nuggets from Norse mythology. I know spoilers for mythologies is an inherently stupid thing to worry about since I can go read about it at any time, but yeah. I guess it’s time to go media blackout if I’m feeling this cautious. Probably not worth worrying about. I’m sure the game will take creative license anyhow.
When we have big new games being shown my next thought is how the easy allies guys and girls react that wolverine pop off was the best 👌 love you guys and girls
Just realized that it's a bit weird that in the previous God of War they meet Jörmungandr the world serpent whose parents are Loki and Angrboda but they haven't met yet... I wonder if they will explain that in some way with time trickery or if that's a change they've made from the source material. They also mention Fenrir and Hel within the game who are the other two children of Loki and Angrboda...
They do allude to Jörmungandr travelling back in time, before his own birth, after battling Thor in Ragnarok. Also, Jörmungandr does tell Atreus he looks familiar, which would give creedence to that idea/theory.
Huber pulled his devil trigger when Wolverine was revealed.
Its always a great day when Easy Allies gets to react to a gaming conference! Love it!!!
Definitely dude!
Class thumbnail work, Blood.
Super pumped for "Spiderman 2" and "Wolverine" but I think I'm most pumped for the fusion of Isla and Pikachu being teased throughout this stream.😏😂
Thank you for actually making that the thumbnail Blood
Am I crazy or when Venom answers "Yes we will" to Kraven (I assume it's Kraven) and then we see the black spider logo, this alludes to a playable Venom?
It could be so many things. Additionally to what you theorized, it could be that Kraven ends up getting a venom suit and the "we" refers to themselves. It could be that Venom also will fight Kraven. We saw coop moves with Miles so maybe Venom eventually teams up against Kraven and then... you have coop moves with Venom.
true
Game will be first half half miles/peter vs venom (with peter trying to win Harry over), then kraven beating all of their asses leading to a team up/playable venom.
I hope so man
@Viper01 The symbiote was just being used to keep Harry alive, no reason to believe Eddie won't be in it.
The only reactions i wait for anymore. Love you all.
I appreciate Isla recognizing the Radiohead section lol. Think that was actually what I was most excited for from this show.
Weird thing is I had Kid A ripped to my OG Xbox and listened to it a LOT while playing Tony Hawk 2X.
So where everyone else has Superman ingrained in their head as indelible to Tony Hawk, I have Everything In It’s Place.
Incidentally, punk is great, but Tony Hawk is way better with a moodier soundtrack.
@Michel Nunez Why be mean when you can be nice?
If you watch the Spider Man 2 trailer, the number 1048 is the address of the restaurant in the first shot 50:28. You can also see it at 46:47 on the fridge in the Wolverine teaser. Earth 1048 is the earth that the first two Spider-man game's took place in so a connected game universe is basically confirmed!
"Is this deathloop again?" Is my whole mood for 2021.
This was so long ago...now the next PS showcase is rumoured for the 25th and i cant wait
I need to know whether Isla’s pikachu ears were planned
Ian*
@@XxT0kY0DrfTstYlExX she transitioned this year. It's Isla
@@slowlyprocessing5814 They know, they just don't care what she wants. Report them and move on.
I hope it is a heavenly coincidence.
@@slowlyprocessing5814 it's Ian. Every cell in his body would say he's a male lol
Isla recognizing radiohead immediately made me not feel so alone.
Who's Isla?
@@Hymeleon the girl duh
@@tahmkenchi4974 Even if Ian wear a dress it doesn't turn him into a girl all of a sudden...
@@Hymeleon I think he is a transgender
@@tahmkenchi4974 still a dude to be honest
Isla representing radio head! Mad respect
Wolverine hype!
Amazing shot with Atreus walking into shot of the GOW trailer with the deer making it look like the classic Loki look with the horns.
Isla seeing Atreus "helmet" when he bring the deer while she herself got pikachu ears made me laugh out loud
He is called Ian i believe
@@XxT0kY0DrfTstYlExX It's ok if you're out of the loop, but she's called Isla.
@@joed5150 She/Isla, she's a woman now.
@@LordDrakath You only waste time, if he is not able to refer to her as she wants, you simply do not exist.
@Michel Nunez Doesn't matter, she identifies as a woman.
not sure if anyone picked up but the Forspoken engine is the evolved Luminous engine that was used for FF15. The DNA is clear as day but so much more glorious.
Luminous Studios uses Luminous engine? What a surprise :P
came back to watch this again! what a hype this showcase was!
Can’t wait for Project Eve. I thought it was the best gameplay showcase of the show. It looks really good.
Had the same reaction as Isla when I heard Radiohead.
I just really want David Hayter to do the vo for Wolverine. He’d be perfect!
Nah Steve Blum is the best Wolverine.
@@mohdkhairul9701 Blum is good, but nah.. David Hayter is Canadian. Wolverine is Canadian. Couldn’t be more perfect! 🇨🇦😉
@@nicodemus82 There’s also the fact that Steve Blum has actually voiced Wolverine before so he has experience with the character.
Fuck that they HAVE to get Hugh Jackman
@@dannysandoval8296 Jackman isn’t even going to be playing Wolverine in the cinematic universe anymore anyways, so why would he voice the game? Wouldn’t make much sense really.
Castlevania music? How dare you, that’s the GT4 theme! Put some respect on the Gran Turismo name.
Also this is a joke but seriously Moon Over the Castle, great tune, check it out.
Moon over the castle is one of the greats
Never heard
And it's spelled RESPEK
Huber channelling every gamer in the world during that deathloop trailer
This showcase was impressive. NF as the outro? Yeah they killed it
I swear, there are going to be studies done about Deathloop on how over-marketing a product is a bad thing
Who's fault is it in this case? Did Sony announce it too early? Cause since then they've been plugging it EVERYWHERE. Did Arkane make too many trailers and they tried to plug it at even more events?
I guess we'll see if sales are on their side to be certain if it worked or not.
That wasn’t Dishoneored 2a problem. Dishonored 2 sufferered from their marketing leaning way too heavily on marketing “story” to a market where only 30% of players finish games.
It’s the same problem Halo is having now. Nobody cares about story as much as everyone pretends to care about story. The statistics speak for themselves. Nobody is finishing these stories.
@@dreamerabe I mean, that's what people say, but are they actually out or were they already skeptical? What about the amount of people reached by having so many trailers. They're probably banking on winning more people over by having "too many" trailers than the people they'd lose.
@@JazGalaxy Oddest take I've seen in a while. People can't finish games because games take long to finish and most gamers aren't that hardcore, but that doesn't mean people don't like stories or playing narrative driven games.
Amazing thumbnail Blood 👍
I love Isla's Pikachu ears!
😊
Good job Blood on that thumbnail!
The more I watch the Spider-Man trailer the more I think Venom might be a playable character.
I haven't watched Easy Allies in a while but good for Isla for transitioning, that couldn't have been easy to do
I liked him better as a snarky hipster to be completely honest.
@@arkiststark *her
@@marv2507 hahahaha im not Bowing down to the PC crowd so my words stay as they are
@@arkiststark "bowing down to the PC crowd" = being nice and respectful to others apparently. what a good person you are.
@@samfincher45 how is it disrespectful if you don't acknowledge things like these? Ian can do whatever the flip he wants, I still respect his opinions and everything. But I am against transitioning as I think this thing has deeper roots then wanting to be a different gender, it's more like being lost with your own identity, in my opinion people should try to find the reasons why they are unhappy instead of changing their sex to whatever they like and wanting other to accept this. Trans people have one of the highest suicide rates, do you think this comes from nothing or could it be that this is an issue that is not talked about because of political correctness? So please before saying I'm disrespectful read my words and try to understand them.
So is Forspoken just the lovechild of Final Fantasy and Infamous?
And anime industries' obsession of isekai genre.
God of War Ragnarok: Game of the year 2022
Spider-Man 2: Game of the year 2023
Knack 3 GOTY 2024
@@Ayoul PlayStation All-stars 2:Game of the year 2025
I am from future both are not 🤣
@piyushdhauni we both know Xbox exclusive is never winning Game of the year 😆 🤣
Isla's unplanned pikachu ears are either bothering or fun to look at lmao
who
The White Chess pieces were Playstation and the Black ones were Xbox. That is the only purpose/meaning I found in that intro.
I'm sure they think they're so clever with that one, but it was pretty eyerolling.
Damani: is the thumbnail the cat?
Blood: No
Love it :D
Edit, I see it is indeed the cat 😺 :D
I guess I'm in a camp all by myself with my hype for Guardians of the Galaxy. I think it looks decent, the squad commands for gameplay, I'm excited about, the jokes work for me, and I'm overall excited about it. But I guess that's just me at this point
now that it’s out, how do you feel about it? I loved it but it would be cool if there was a horde/wave mode or something similar to the combat simulator in FF7R, the game just reminds me of FF7R in certain elements haha
@@NickKS57 really enjoyed it all the way throught. And I agree I wish there something extra to do after the game, or maybe so unlocks to go along with new game plus.
Disappointed that most of you did not know of Project Eve, even though it was shown few times.
I love Wolverine , spiderman 2 , Star wars the old republic and god of war Ragnarok 😍💥💥🎇🎇🎇🎇
I've seen so much Deathloop in these damn showcases that I honestly don't want to buy it or know anything about it anymore.
What an amazing ending
I can't with Isla's incidental Pikachu ears!!!... that's way too cute. Can we make it so Isla only shows with Pikachu ears from now on!!! Let's start a petition on it! 😊😊
The Guardians of the Galaxy, remind me so much of the 80s Transformers the animated movie (The-Greatest-One-and-half-hour-Transformers-Music-Video-Ever). It nails the 80s space/ rock video for me
It's tough watching people insist something is one thing when you know for a fact it's not.
Isla and Huber: "Parasite Eve, Parasite Eve!"
Me: It's not. They are speaking Korean. I wish I could talk through the stream and tell you that.
Isla and Huber: Is it Parasite Eve?!
Me: Ugh...
I still think Guardians of the Galaxy looks alright.
For me it's the gameplay that I'm on the fence with. What they showed was very very mediocre looking. I think it's very worrying that they are so shy to show more or an actual walkthrough so close to launch. The rest looks fine and the art direction is pretty cool looking.
Yeah I am so not hype for it
@@Ayoul the worst shot of the game is where they show Starlord running forward shooting his guns while they flash different landscapes as background.
It’s meant to be a cool shot showcasing the different environments but really it looks like they are saying you do the same boring thing across the entire game.
It's a preorder for me. Looks awesome
@@Ayoul tbh they showed so much gameplay in the reveal I don't think we really need more.
This is the beginning of the MIU
Marvel Insomniac Universe 😎👍
Ghostwire gave me Breakdown vibes. That's a game that needs a remake.
Castlevania's reaction was hilarious, but no, that's the main theme from GT4. I agree though, a new Castlevania needs to happen, with the popularity of the Netflix show I feel like it might be time for a 3D entry to try again.
while everyone trying to capitalize on the Avengers trend with groups of super heroes like Guardians of the Galaxy, Sony here just slowly taking the solo Marvel character approach, imagine if the announce Dead pool from insomniac games xD
Not sure why you are reading some Kind of genius into that. There’s been singular hero games and team hero games as long as there have been hero games. There was a Wolverine game not all that long ago. (Depending on how old you are and what counts as not that long ago)
Not a fan of Borderlands, but Baby Metal is a great music choice for it.
Yeah. A pretty decent trailer for more of the same game.
Old republic remake has me geeking out hard!!!!!
I do think people should keep expectations in check for that one. I feel like people expect Demon's Souls scale, but it's just not the same caliber of studio.
today was too much Hype Playstation showcase & Matrix Resurrections reveal...
What an awesome day.
@@dreamerabe fam I only dream of a Dreamcast 2 someday.
that was intense
There is NO licensing issue for Marvel _games._ Sony owns the Spider-Man movie rights, but has no legal hold over him in any video games. The fact that Spider-Man projects often _favor_ Sony platforms is more of a "brand loyalty/cross promotion" thing, so if Marvel ever wants to do something with Spidey as a game, Sony has no say in the matter. I don't see any reason they could not tie the Wolverine and Spidey games into the same universe, especially with Insomniac doing both. There shouldn't even be any reason why they wouldn't be able to cross over a game made by an entirely different company. The _only_ issue would be that when Insomniac makes content unique to their game, like Spidey's PS4 costume, they own that, and Marvel then had to license those rights back to use it in some other project. So if they did a crossover game with a different company, they might have to clear some art assets or something. No reason they couldn't just "declare" a shared universe though.
Some of those things sound off. There's no way Marvel has to license things from Insomniac. It's the other way around. The only reason why Spider-Man things favor playstation is because Sony is paying for it.
The rest about characters hopping between games is right though. The only reason why they might not (at least of now) is more about creative control, cohesion and the challenges of working with different studios. Making movies in a single universe is quite easy since multiple movies come out in a year, a single person can oversee each 2 hours or so story, etc. Games take much longer, get delayed (which would impact other projects) and are much more iterative. That said, no reason why you couldn't see winks or a quick mission where either character shows up if the licenses are cleared up.
@@Ayoul Copyright is complicated. The work Insomniac does is typically their property, they are just leasing out the stuff Marvel gave them too. This has happened in the past where a licensed game has done a thing, and then the comics or other projects has not been able to use it. It's definitely been an issue with the movies, where any costume used for a Fox/Sony movie character could not be used in a Marvel game, while MCU costumes could. Now Marvel's handshake with Sony over Spider-Man means that his MCU costumes and stuff can be in Marvel games, but it's not 100%.
If Marvel rents out the license to Insomniac to make a Spider-Man game, _typically_ that is a one-way street. That doesn't mean that Insomniac can just make figures or t-shirts of Spider-Man from their game without penalty, but ti does mean that Marvel cannot use those costume for anything of theirs without Insomniac agreeing. It's possible that their current contract automatically hands those rights over, but not always.
Think of it this way, since it's a fairly simple example, say there's a song, "Yesterday" by the Beetles or something. A musician licenses out that song because they want to make a cover, and they do so, changing up a lot of elements, but still being close enough that he would get sued without the license. This does not, however, mean that the Beetles license holder would then be allowed to just use this altered version of the piece as they see fit, the second musician would own _this_ version of the song and its unique features, just as a sub-license of the original.
To the second point, yeah, having games where A leads directly into B which leads directly into C would be a production nightmare, but they could at least _reference_ each other in ways that are not spoilery, on the off chance that B comes out before A, and they could also work in "stages," where A, B, and C are only loosely connected, but so are D, E, and F, which come out years after any of them, so don't need to worry about spoiling anything from the first three games.
It's a marketing/business move. If anyone other than Insomniac comes up with a Spiderman game... will you play it, will it be better? It could happen, but it'll be really hard for anyone to eat up the upfront cash to get rights to publish/develop such game. You'll need to guaranty millions in sales to pay just for the license deal.
@@Ayoul Actually, getting a Spider-Man game out that is not taking any content from the current MCU or Sony Movie space will be very hard. You'll need to dig really deep into the comics from the past or come up with an entirely new universe for Spidy, because if Sony puts it in a movie, you will have to go with the Avengers route, were you have alternate versions of characters and will alienate the fans/consumers.
@@KravenVanDrakken Not exactly. A Spider-Man game could NEVER get in trouble for "overlapping" content from a Spider-Man movie. Not unless they got _super_ close. Like if you basically made a game that was "Spider-Man: Far from Home," but didn't call it that, then yeah, Sony might get involved. They would have an uphill battle claiming you were stealing from _them_ though, especially if you were just borrowing and combining elements that had already appeared in the comics. If you just did a movie about Spider-Man vs. Mysterio, even in Europe, you could probably get away with that. Marvel would, of course, eat you alive if you didn't have _their_ permission.
So the existence of the Sony movies does almost nothing to hamper creativity in Spidey games. Now, when Marvel signed the deal with Sony/Insomniac to make Marvel's Spider-Man PS4, and the subsequent games, they might have included language that would prevent any other types of "Spider-Man solo games" for a limited time, and _that_ might prevent any other studio from makign a Spider-Man game, but that would be separate from the Sony movie deal, and likely much more limited in timeframe. Like if Marvel was annoyed at Insomniac and didn't approve of Spider-Man 2, they could likely already have a different game in development elsewhere.
Forspoken has some infamous vibes with the traversal and powers
I’d love to get some clarification from Isla on how Project Eve is “tone deaf” for having parasite and eve in the trailer? Like seriously, Parasite Eve is nearly a quarter of a decade old. Then in the post show mentioning how you don’t like character action games. Sure that may very well be true but you were still very much hyped watching the trailer until you didn’t get what you want. It just seems like a salty take.
Yea he’s sour
I don't know much about Norse Myth. So I could've really done without the Tyr spoiler. Now I will pay the game with that constantly in the back of my mind. Please be mindfull of that in the future, Isla.
Thanks Blood for the cat!
Does anyone know what Barlog was going on about at the end of the GOW interview? I can't tell if he was making a joke I didn't get, or he was rambling while tired. Cuz sounds like something i would've said without my coffee haha
47:06 me when someone busts out the pizza rolls
*Sees a heavy Japanese character action game*
"Is this Parasite Eve?" XD
As someone that really likes japanese games, i was let down but i can understand that this showcase was good for most people.......still no silent hill ? ( i mean did you guys see the PT demo, its still impressive so imagine a whole Game!)
That ain’t Sony fault silent hill isn’t here
Huber : Zelda on PlayStation! XD😆😆😆
Sometimes the Allies are too caught up on their own inside jokes or ideas, like constantly thinking Project EVE had anything to do with Parasite Eve when anyone could see it was basically a korean version of Bayonetta.
Yeah that really bugged me and she said Starlords joke didn’t land but her constant thinking it was Parasite Eve was more annoying lmao
It's not even a new game either. I feel like it's the kind of thing at least one of them should be aware of. Also, pretty clearly korean language and not japanese (which Blood knows some of and could've pointed out).
@@lucasromerova6150 I mean, she's right though. I think some of those jokes fell flat due to bad editing, but it's a recurring thing with that game's trailers.
@@lucasromerova6150 what do those two things have to do with one another?
@@Ayoul There's also that, the trailer was entirely spoken in korean, which would be pretty weird for a new Parasite Eve game anyway
Lol I love Huber when he goes “just a 10/10 game, no big deal” when talking about Uncharted. He’s so right though, just two 10/10’s. I think Uncharted 4 is the best one made - I think Isla should go back and play it
Huber "Zelda on playstation!" Hype
gahhh Isla thanks for reminding me about GOT season 8 =/
the gta5 trailer was: here is the pc version for ps5, enjoy.
47:16 gran turismo 7
"YOU CAN'T BE USING CASTLEVANIA MUSIC FOR GRAN TURISMO!" XD Agreed!
1:13:24 they really did it
Can anybody point me towards that eve game soundtrack?
I was hoping that intro was the royal flush gang in either Gotham knights or suicide squad game
This was a solid showcase, good announcements, but some pacing issues. And some fat that definitely should have been trimmed (Deathloop again, seriously...). 1 or 2 additional announcements would have been nice. Sony seems to prefer keeping a lot of things under wraps this time around. They told us there are 25 first party games in development and even after this showcase we still only know a handful of those.
October 5th is NOT Metroid Day, October 8th is Metroid Day! I can assure you you can finish Alan Wake in those three days.
The centaur looks like a deer, not a horse.
37:01 that was absolutely the case, i love the game but this trailer did it no justice at all
What's the timestamp for the cat?
It’s part of the Forspoken trailer, dude -> 0:25:08.
Im only here for the baby metal reaction
Shout-out to Damiani for recognising it!
I really don't get why deathloop gets so much hate.
It just feels overexposed at this point and people are tired of seeing it
Honestly. While I agree that this particular showing was too much, it’s one of the only games I was interested in.
The guy at 1:38:28 with his squid really looks like Richard Schiff imo.. They may have ruined this character bc for me it seems like he is Odin who will meet Kratos and Atreus along their way. He’s also wearing a monocle on his right eye (which is the eye he payed with for the acquisition of wisdom).
Uh that's interesting.
That's not Odin, that's a dwarf, Durlin.
Insomniac's shoulders must be hecking sore after all this carrying they've been doing.
It's ridiculous.
Huber at 33:22 lmfao
38:30
I had the same reaction, this 5th? trailer with literally nothing new to show really annoyed me and was what cemented that I'm absolutely not buying deathloop on release or anytime soon.
Whoevers in charge of marketing for this game needs to fired. And I'm talking like fired out of a canon.
Who
Them not having heard of Project Eve prior makes the reaction a little difficult to watch lmao.
About 6 games on there I am hyped for
The last 15 mins saved this show.
Soo good.
Closer to last 10 if we include the wolverine tease and for me who's not a racing game guy, it's more like the last 7min that saved the show. Super hyped for those 7 mins, but I can't help but feel like most of it was not all that exciting.
I don't even mind seeing some older games again, but at least show something cool. Guardians, Deathloop, Forespoken, etc didn't do that for me. Maybe I'm super jaded now though lmao.
@@Ayoul I feel you, I couldn’t care less about anything that doesn’t have the PS Studios logo on it. Might have to buy a PS5 now.
Good thing they didn’t tease or showed anything Metal Gear at the end, I would of literally gotten a heart attack.
@@Dhbdhjdbd where do they sell those budds?
PS audience is larger and more diverse than you might think. I'd admit to a Deathloop fatigue... and I have not even played the loop of that game 🤭🤭🤦🏽♂️
young girl at end isnt a love interest.. she is one of the giant 'gods' like kratos' wife who died. (obv young)
WATCH THE CLAWS COME OUT
That castlevania song fooled me. I thought was a new game
Zelda on Playstations XD 0:30
PlayStation miles ahead of the competition 😁
Is the year of dreams back?
Great show. Really fun to see their reactions to Wolverine and some others. Great energy allies. :)
I know it’s stupid but I kinda wish I didn’t hear some of the rapid fire lore nuggets from Norse mythology. I know spoilers for mythologies is an inherently stupid thing to worry about since I can go read about it at any time, but yeah. I guess it’s time to go media blackout if I’m feeling this cautious. Probably not worth worrying about. I’m sure the game will take creative license anyhow.
When we have big new games being shown my next thought is how the easy allies guys and girls react that wolverine pop off was the best 👌 love you guys and girls
Just realized that it's a bit weird that in the previous God of War they meet Jörmungandr the world serpent whose parents are Loki and Angrboda but they haven't met yet... I wonder if they will explain that in some way with time trickery or if that's a change they've made from the source material. They also mention Fenrir and Hel within the game who are the other two children of Loki and Angrboda...
They do allude to Jörmungandr travelling back in time, before his own birth, after battling Thor in Ragnarok. Also, Jörmungandr does tell Atreus he looks familiar, which would give creedence to that idea/theory.
Gta 6 😂.that dude comes from 2024
Can’t wait to get Forspoken in my hands.
Sorry but I’m confused, not seen this channel for a long time. Did one of them get a sex change ?
Isla Identified herself as a woman.
I dont know the correct terminology for it.
@@M00SHTY I know the correct terminology "mental illness"
@@TacitusKillgore1 oh. you're one of those
@@M00SHTY I guess yea, if it means of normal mindset and not a soy cuck beta male or “thing” then yes I’m one of “those”
0:15 GTA 6
Come On Rockstar