These Games Could Kill Overwatch 2

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  • Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
  • Three hero shooters are coming out to compete for the Hero Shooter throne, Sony's Concord, Valve's Deadlock and Netease with Marvel Rivals. Each game, including Overwatch 2 set to occupy a different flavor of the hero shooter genre. Which game do you think will be the best hero shooter of them all?
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  • @YourOverwatch
    @YourOverwatch  4 місяці тому +14

    Which game do you think will be the best hero shooter of them all?

    • @ZKDaniel
      @ZKDaniel 4 місяці тому +3

      Definitely, Marvel Rivals, from what I've seen and heard the beta on PC, was awesome. I can't wait for console beta

    • @cloudGGs
      @cloudGGs 4 місяці тому +7

      Marvel rivals has the potential to be the most popular. But nothing will ever beat the polish that overwatch has. and nothing will ever beat overwatch map designs. I don’t see valve managing to make a great game either, but they know how to make popular games as proven by CS.

    • @fettbub92
      @fettbub92 4 місяці тому +1

      Star Wars: Battle Front 2, the 00's version on the original X-Box. TF2 takes silver.

    • @luislozano2896
      @luislozano2896 4 місяці тому +3

      OW3 or whatever Papa Jeff has been working on...

    • @Blovmag
      @Blovmag 4 місяці тому

      I doubt there is a "best" game out of them, they are quite different, and I see myself playing them all.
      Rivals is more of a casual ability-first shooter.
      Concord seems to be a more serious gun-first shooter
      Deadlock is barely a shooter, I would call it a 3rd person MOBA, but it has its place for sure.

  • @hidden3880
    @hidden3880 4 місяці тому +423

    List of games that can kill Overwatch 2
    -Overwatch 2

    • @nex5691
      @nex5691 4 місяці тому +21

      List of companies that can kill overwatch 2
      -BLIZZARD
      -ACTIVISION BLIZZARD

    •  4 місяці тому +5

      ROFL exactly my first thought on the title

    • @moyo007
      @moyo007 4 місяці тому +1

      no jeff ow is dead

    • @DJ-pb1vr
      @DJ-pb1vr 4 місяці тому +5

      @@moyo007 jeff killed ow know your ow lore

    • @kaiburofficial5552
      @kaiburofficial5552 4 місяці тому +2

      yep, literally came here to say this

  • @EBM324
    @EBM324 4 місяці тому +113

    Looking at these other games, I'm reminded how much I appreciate having the other team highlighted in red.

    • @therealzahyra
      @therealzahyra 4 місяці тому +2

      Not for me. My gameplay vastly improved when I finally was able to make the enemy lime green and my team dark purple. Too many things lighting up on the screen, it was distracting. Now I can focus on the enemies because I can clearly see them and those that don't stand out, I know to be my teammates.

    • @aabrrrr
      @aabrrrr 4 місяці тому +6

      I had around 70 hours in the marvel rivals beta. Spotting the enemy team was never an issue.

    • @therealzahyra
      @therealzahyra 4 місяці тому +2

      @@aabrrrr for you.

    • @ooooswain
      @ooooswain 4 місяці тому

      ​@@aabrrrrThat's a lot! How do you like it compared to OW2?

    • @olegdusov4273
      @olegdusov4273 4 місяці тому

      @@therealzahyra Marvel Rivals has the other team highlighted in red and GIANT red healthbars
      Imagine looking at the video u r watching :)

  • @bebemax95
    @bebemax95 4 місяці тому +23

    Marvel Rivals is the only game here thats truly an Overwatch competitor. None of the other games listed are like Overwatch.

    • @artmanrom
      @artmanrom 4 місяці тому +3

      Yes and no. Marvel's Rivals is the only one like OW but all the others can steal the OW player base.

    • @nex5691
      @nex5691 Місяць тому

      Concord died very fast it was like hyperscapes but died b4 release
      Deadlock don’t kill ow coz it’s like dota and smite
      Marvel rivals atp is a great competitor to ow

  • @clairemadeinheaven
    @clairemadeinheaven 4 місяці тому +43

    Overwatch killed Overwatch, not these games. That said I'm 100% moving to Rivals when it releases, I miss 6v6

    • @Ajaylix
      @Ajaylix 4 місяці тому

      Honestly in marvel rivals was out 26th 5v5 or 7v7 or 8v8 etc. I don't think it'll make the game worse because there's no role queue

    • @ligmanewtons2523
      @ligmanewtons2523 3 місяці тому +7

      This channel is so full of dishonesty lol.
      Saying something akin to "you'd never catch ME being excited to play a game like Rivals, but players will maybe try it out and then come back to Overwatch when they realize the grass isn't greener on the other side when it comes to the chaos and freedom of expression to have really imbalanced characters..."
      The only thing that was a real issue was Hela... In an Alpha, that he is comparing to OW1 release. I'm going to have a blast playing Magik, Storm, Luna, etc. in Rivals. Heck, even tanks because they are ACTUALLY FUN and the role isn't insufferable. They're even killable too.
      The dude even said take the destructable environment further and let the entire turrain get wrecked by players so there is no competitive element to the game whatsoever, as if by contrast OW was taking itself seriously or had decent hero balance. Sojourn is still untouched. Heroes like hanzo and mei are still gutted with no reworks after a pushed health buff to tons of heroes. What is super competitive about get out of jail free abilities like lamp, suzu, etc?

  • @ZKDaniel
    @ZKDaniel 4 місяці тому +25

    Listen, I still love ow and will love it even during its fall point, but Marvel rivals! Is awesome!!!

    • @ikan5149
      @ikan5149 4 місяці тому +4

      I can agree, I’ll def be playing marvel rivals a lot more than OW2

    • @ZKDaniel
      @ZKDaniel 4 місяці тому +2

      @ikan5149 I always wanted a pvp marvel ow type of game and rivals is THAT GAME! plus, if they add carnage and other Marvel characters

    • @Batcena
      @Batcena 4 місяці тому +1

      ⁠@@ZKDanielhonestly it might not even be just PVP, with the amount of stories Marvel has, it’s entirely possible that there could be some PVE events with skins from those eras!
      Avengers Vs X-Men, Krokoa, MCU, Marvel Zombies 1 and resurrection, there are serious a lot of Things marvel could do if netease actually works!

    • @glasspretender
      @glasspretender 3 місяці тому

      @@Batcenawould LOVE this! Even if it’s just a seasonal PvE event

  • @mraltoid19
    @mraltoid19 4 місяці тому +37

    Why 2k doesn't resurrect "BattleBorn", I don't know. I'm surprised you didn't mention "Paladins", as an existing competition.

    • @thatcactus5451
      @thatcactus5451 4 місяці тому +3

      Battleborn didn't play like Overwatch, very surprised people ever considered them as competition. Yeah they have unique characters with ability based game play, but the game had a fundamentally different way of play in that it was more like a first person MOBA game (if I remember correctly). Paladins was just OW but way worse, but it was F2P, but then OW went F2P so they are more similar now in that respect.

    • @pippo17173
      @pippo17173 4 місяці тому +7

      @@thatcactus5451 Paladins despite their current state, at the very least allows people to play how they want. That and I can at least pull the two tank comp that overwatch refuses to do.

    • @Strategistmaster
      @Strategistmaster 4 місяці тому +1

      Overwatch probably did Battleborn the dirtiest

    • @pippo17173
      @pippo17173 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@Strategistmaster in fairness, gear box screw themselves thinking they can take overwatch

    • @Skycube100
      @Skycube100 4 місяці тому

      @@thatcactus5451 True, many people say that Overwatch is like an FPS moba game but really, Battleborne, Gigantic, and Paladins are more FPS moba than Overwatch is. yes OW can feel like an FPS moba sometimes, but it depends on the meta, really it's not like that in OW all the time.
      Yes Paladins in Overwatch is a lot similar now with F2P scheme and the DPS passive, but Paladins still feels more like FPS moba. Another reason why OW is more popular than Paladins, Gigantic, and Battleborn is that OW is leaning towards, at least most of the time, the FPS side and FPS games are just way more popular right now. Most would rather play an FPS shooter that a 3rd person shooter and most would rather play a shooter game focused mostly on shooter sensibilities and mechanics rather than moba's.

  • @FlavourFool
    @FlavourFool 4 місяці тому +235

    I predict that Marvel Rivals, by comparison will show everyone how well made and designed Overwatch actually is

    • @NANI-hl7pc
      @NANI-hl7pc 4 місяці тому +14

      Exactly!

    • @gmanz5
      @gmanz5 4 місяці тому +12

      Facts we might bitch and complain our Devs are elite

    • @The_Claymores
      @The_Claymores 4 місяці тому +3

      strongly agreed

    • @cheeseblast
      @cheeseblast 4 місяці тому +61

      I dont think that much copium is healthy.

    • @Digger-Nick
      @Digger-Nick 4 місяці тому +18

      It's very fluid and clear.
      That's all overwatch has going for it, game is extremely stale.

  • @toons4934
    @toons4934 4 місяці тому +3

    Freedo you should make videos like this instead of trying to gaslight 6v6ers into thinking they like 5v5 more like we didn’t play both of them lol ??? Crazy ? Might sub again, feels way less shilly when you just cover overwatch or make vids like this.

  • @ktom6757
    @ktom6757 4 місяці тому +22

    5:50 cries as a TF2 fan

  • @The_Claymores
    @The_Claymores 4 місяці тому +40

    finally someone understands that Concord is essentially Destiny. I'm confused by how many youtubers are immediately jumping to Overwatch comparisons when the similarities don't go beyond surface level 'hero shooter'

    • @nex5691
      @nex5691 4 місяці тому +4

      Imo looks like destiny, borderlands, and gotg mixed together
      It ain’t anything like Overwatch
      Ur real problem nowadays is usually whenever a new hero shooter comes ppl will go straight and say it’s OVERWATCH KILLER
      I’m not defending ow but it is annoying like the fact marvel rivals is a third person shooter game and plays more like smite and paladins is good but annoying that many ppl say ITS OVERWATCH ITS OVERWATCH
      OVERWATCH KILLER!!!! Yea it won’t kill overwatch coz atm ow killed itself they shot themselves in the foot like a dozen of times

    • @luminen4051
      @luminen4051 4 місяці тому

      Destiny doesn't have hero kits like Overwatch or Concord. Destiny only has 3 classes with lots of different things to pick between in each class. Overwatch and Concord has each hero locked into their own kit. That's what hero shooter means
      Overwatch is a team based hero shooter. That's all it is. You can compare it closely to every other hero shooter

  • @aerostrafe1075
    @aerostrafe1075 4 місяці тому +28

    For marvel rivals I got my old tank buddy who dropped OW back to play as Venom for my Spider-Man. That alone is enough for Marvel Rivals to exist for me.

  • @DThrow26
    @DThrow26 4 місяці тому +8

    The devs already killed Overwatch 2

  • @OmniVenom
    @OmniVenom 4 місяці тому +21

    I Think DeadLock is a competitor to Smite 2 more than OW

    • @jerrodossa6072
      @jerrodossa6072 3 місяці тому +1

      Or Predecessor for sure. Good comparison.

  • @spaceowl9246
    @spaceowl9246 4 місяці тому +7

    As someone who's been a WoW player for 18 years let me tell you this: there were so many games that claimed to be the "WoW Killer" but nothing came even close. If anything kills Overwatch, it's Overwatch itself.

    • @jerrygyoungii
      @jerrygyoungii 3 місяці тому +1

      Nostalgia and the continued hope Overwatch will return to its roots are the only things that are keeping it alive, in my opinion. I've certainly moved on, as I have accepted the Overwatch world as it appears to be.

  • @kambyyy
    @kambyyy 4 місяці тому +6

    Deadlock won't kill Overwatch. Deadlock is a MOBA with shooter elements, not a shooter with MOBA elements.

  • @MrBreakdownx
    @MrBreakdownx 4 місяці тому +8

    Deadlock looks more like its leaninging into the battleborn crowd.
    Marvel rivals seems more like overwatch style of game.
    Concord seems more like ow2 style of play.
    Idk im down to try all of them tbh hero shooters/mobas are just fun.

  • @Cenomercy
    @Cenomercy 4 місяці тому +8

    9:30 I disagree about just being a visual. When I play the close beta we needed a heavy character to destroy some walls to open up flanking routes it was a necessary.

  • @Billy_D
    @Billy_D 4 місяці тому +263

    Overwatch is already dead😂

    • @FGPlus
      @FGPlus 4 місяці тому +11

      4 min dps q in gold. Can confirm this season killed the game.

    • @CrossxFir3
      @CrossxFir3 4 місяці тому +65

      ​@@FGPlus4 min and you think it's dead NOW? OW1 had 15 min DPS qp waits

    • @Bizarrebirchdoesgame
      @Bizarrebirchdoesgame 4 місяці тому +2

      @@CrossxFir3 when was it that long in gold?

    • @dezmundogaming8780
      @dezmundogaming8780 4 місяці тому +32

      And yet here you are in the comment section of a video about overwatch

    • @PhenomRom
      @PhenomRom 4 місяці тому +3

      @@Bizarrebirchdoesgame2019-2022

  • @totomen666
    @totomen666 Місяць тому +2

    Titan Fall mobs - players: ah boring mobs
    Smite mobs - players: ah boring mobs
    Gigantic mobs - players: ah boring mobs
    Paragon mobs - players: ah boring mobs
    Deadlock mobs - players: WOW SO UNIQUE AND FRESH, MOBS MY LOVE

  • @LuLuTheGremlin
    @LuLuTheGremlin 4 місяці тому +2

    Overwatch 2 has no one with VISION leading it. It died with Jeff kaplans departure.

  • @emmanuelugalde475
    @emmanuelugalde475 4 місяці тому +9

    lawbreakers was fun i hope they bring it back

  • @JUNGGLEART
    @JUNGGLEART 4 місяці тому +43

    Nothing could compare with OW. I don’t take any defense.

    • @comedial6829
      @comedial6829 4 місяці тому +23

      That’s because all you do is play Overwatch, so ofc you’re gonna have this view lmao

    • @johnrodriguez-boggs9159
      @johnrodriguez-boggs9159 4 місяці тому +4

      Bro that attitude ruins the game

    • @gaiblexx1919
      @gaiblexx1919 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@comedial6829 might just be me but i only play overwatch because every other game ive played regardless of genre just gets so boring so fast. Though it mighr just be my ADHD 😅

    • @comedial6829
      @comedial6829 4 місяці тому +12

      @@gaiblexx1919 there it is right there, you’re the problem, and it’s also an example of addiction, trust me if you actually took time out of your day to give other games a shot instead of giving them a one and done, you’d see that there are other FPS games out there just as or if not the same enjoyable as Overwatch lol

    • @cloudGGs
      @cloudGGs 4 місяці тому +4

      There is no game out there that can give you the experience and fun of Reinhart or do fist

  • @Strategistmaster
    @Strategistmaster 4 місяці тому +6

    I hope it does, without competition in its specific genre, Overwatch will never grow.

  • @amelioratetoolate
    @amelioratetoolate 4 місяці тому +26

    None of these will really impact the majority of the OW playerbase, because the majority of OW players are casual enjoyers of the atmosphere of OW. Blizzard did such a spectacular job creating the OW world and characters, I do not believe any competitor can match it.

    • @forthe3136
      @forthe3136 4 місяці тому +10

      Well marvel rivals already has the world and characters part solved

    • @dennydude
      @dennydude 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@forthe3136right? Marvel has had characters for decades and they used to be amazing story tellers.
      OW still doesn't have a story!!!!

    • @alberttaylor6323
      @alberttaylor6323 4 місяці тому

      ⁠@@forthe3136no… the mainstream heroes (basically the avengers) can compete. Marvel has soooo much characters, which inevitably leads to some nobodies that will get added in and never catch popularity

    • @johnnymeansii
      @johnnymeansii 4 місяці тому

      ​@@forthe3136I'm betting that the mainstream nature of Rivals is actually a knock against them for many. I know it's irrational, but I'm somewhat biased against Marvel products. Maybe it's all the horrible movies or the ubiquity of Marvel content in general. It's almost as if, by default, nothing Marvel can really be novel.

    • @achannel315
      @achannel315 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@alberttaylor6323 ok... pretty much every new overwatch character is a nobody but they rise to popularity, why cant the marvel characters

  • @Colorado-Coyote
    @Colorado-Coyote 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm so excited for rivals

  • @Nava4Gamingz
    @Nava4Gamingz Місяць тому +1

    Dude, just giving an advice. Please use CHAPTERS. We need that for this kind of good video. Thanks! 🎉

  • @ThisIsRusko
    @ThisIsRusko 4 місяці тому +1

    No one cares about Concord. Most hideous character roster ever.
    We don't have enough Infos in deadlock. It's interesting because its more on the moba side.
    Marvel rivals looks absolutely fantastic! THIS is the biggest contender for stealing players from other hero Shooters.

  • @yukioacumora4430
    @yukioacumora4430 4 місяці тому +1

    Concord is dead on arrival. Not because "MUH OVERWATCH BETTER" but because everything about it looks like dogshit, down to the character designs.
    Halo infinite on launch looks better than that thing.

  • @alexanderpalchick8012
    @alexanderpalchick8012 4 місяці тому +4

    I wasn’t excited for any of these but you had my attention at IceFrog 👀👀

  • @TankMAIN877
    @TankMAIN877 4 місяці тому +1

    Trust me with how bad overwatches march maker is with blizzard now admitting they are carrying bad players up the ladder and the dps passive and hitbox buff this game is already dead me and 3 of my friends have quit just this week sick of getting team mates who are potato just because the match maker wants us to carry them.

  • @neil002
    @neil002 4 місяці тому +3

    Most people who watch this video won’t remember that everyone joining OW is bronze 5. The learning curve is suprisingly steep. Some of these news games will pick up players because everyone is new and they don’t have the baggage of OW1. I agree competition is good. So I don’t think it matters which ones win or lose.

  • @johnrodriguez-boggs9159
    @johnrodriguez-boggs9159 4 місяці тому +3

    Valves deadlock is just Paragon….why are people forgetting that just came out?

    • @jerrodossa6072
      @jerrodossa6072 3 місяці тому

      Paragon is gone, but Predecessor is the remake with 3 original hero’s added that’s currently in open beta. Highly recommended checking it out!

  • @EliottLereno
    @EliottLereno 4 місяці тому +22

    Can’t kill what’s already dead…

  • @sakai6042
    @sakai6042 4 місяці тому +6

    You can't kill what's already dead

  • @wanderer316
    @wanderer316 4 місяці тому +1

    I don't think ow2 cares, it's probably gonna be like dota2 and lol.

  • @mamodokod
    @mamodokod 3 місяці тому +1

    Im personally crazy hype for Marvel Rivals, Its been a while since ive been like super hyped for a game.

  • @JoeyXB
    @JoeyXB 4 місяці тому +2

    The concord footage looks like the characters are moving underwater. What is up with the slowness?

  • @tauvolantian398
    @tauvolantian398 4 місяці тому +1

    Gigantic would been a competitor if they hadn't messed up the servers. While paying $20 and you get everything for free is good in my opinion free to play would benefit it. Plus the lack of updates or events is killing the drive for alot of people.

  • @fettbub92
    @fettbub92 4 місяці тому +2

    I honestly hope Marvel Rivals does well and can really fill that void that was left from when Overwatch 2 ruined Overwatch. I'll take the insanity to 2016 Overwatch over this hell that is Overwatch 2.

  • @FlyinTools
    @FlyinTools 4 місяці тому +1

    As much as I would love a game that can compete with OW, I think it’ll be quite a difficult task to make a game that can match the fluid, high octane gameplay and satisfying moments that overwatch has. The game is great. It’s the players that piss me off.

  • @willwunsche6940
    @willwunsche6940 4 місяці тому +1

    Have to strongly disagree about brig being ignored in the lower ranks back then. I remember being low rank at the time and everyone flocking to her to dominate

  • @coltdaddy
    @coltdaddy 4 місяці тому +14

    When I explain what OW is to people I say “Imagine if Super Smash Bros was First Person”
    If Nintendo actually jumped in and did this I feel like they would take over

    • @josephreynolds2401
      @josephreynolds2401 4 місяці тому +3

      Splatoon is so close dude. They just need to reach out and grab it with a other IP. I wouldn't mind if Splatoon were that IP but the kiddy aesthetic is gonna lose traction.

    • @10Neon
      @10Neon 4 місяці тому +2

      I can't eat my enemy and poop them out as an egg. Literally unplayable.

    • @Serendipity_GamingX
      @Serendipity_GamingX 4 місяці тому +2

      This might be the worse most not even close comparison ever made

    • @John-pu5kz
      @John-pu5kz 4 місяці тому

      I would love to see OW as a platform fighting game.

    • @salinaember9527
      @salinaember9527 4 місяці тому +1

      if OW leaned heavy into environmental hazards then yes... there it is nintendo. make a hero based ring out shooter pronto

  • @rxc4350
    @rxc4350 3 місяці тому +1

    This guy sounds like a flat earther whose bad at the game overwatch

  • @bradenhetzel874
    @bradenhetzel874 4 місяці тому +1

    6v6 will only be able to save overwatch but it might already be too late

  • @kidoblivious893
    @kidoblivious893 4 місяці тому +2

    I feel like all these games individually are going to make me want to play overwatch.

  • @JTMclarenF1
    @JTMclarenF1 4 місяці тому +1

    Good they might actually give us 6v6 back if it dies

  • @dshredmusic
    @dshredmusic 4 місяці тому

    Overwatch killed itself. So will every online multiplayer, at least FPS, within the next 5 years.
    Between the lack of quality of life, SBMM when smurfing is allowed that validates bad players at the expense of the ones who try, pandering exclusively to the opinions of shareholders kidnapped by ESG scores and absolute greed, a terrible community management and moderation that bans people for the most ridiculous accusations of "toxicity", and identity politics... More and more streamers, youtubers and gamers in general are slowly accepting that single player games are funnier.

  • @slaveknightdante6207
    @slaveknightdante6207 4 місяці тому

    Ow2 is killing ow2
    The game ow2 will be dead by next year if they dont make changes to the format
    Tank players are getting very tierd you see it in the que times
    Support is still the strongest role ( or at least the most enjoyable) nothings changed .
    An before mr i like counter picking says anything
    6v6 will be very healthy for tank que times
    Players will return to try new format
    And current players will try the new tank role out off curiosity maybe even fallnin love with it
    The best agumemt i heard for 5v5 is the hardware issues on switch
    But then again switch 2 is a thing i think
    Also who plays ow2 on the switch?
    I think t500 is plat1 on switch
    Anyway bring back 6v6 if u want the game to live
    If not u ow2 streamers better start packing youre bags . 😊❤

  • @Jay-tm1sf
    @Jay-tm1sf 4 місяці тому +1

    Can’t even type in chat GGs whit out getting banned!

  • @zepaie69420
    @zepaie69420 3 місяці тому +2

    Dead channel.

  • @willwunsche6940
    @willwunsche6940 4 місяці тому +1

    I have to say even as a masters rank Overwatch player I think I preffered when it was more casual. I liked the 4 roles, junkrat self damage as a junk player, everyone being really defined and for fun. I love competitive too but prefer intresic fun above all else

  • @Strategistmaster
    @Strategistmaster 4 місяці тому

    Just by browsing through your channel video list I can tell hype for OW2 crash and burned after the Story/PvE announcement. Let's be honest, OW2 was doomed on the onset, Bobby squeezed every single cash cow dry and left them to die under modern gaming's harsh desert sun. Any reasonable time or resources given to the OW2 team is going to buyback that lost trust.

  • @reynelsonalbarran113
    @reynelsonalbarran113 4 місяці тому +1

    Marvel Rivals is pure HEAT 🔥

  • @victortestacarlini
    @victortestacarlini 3 місяці тому

    Honestly none of those will "kill" Overwatch (at least not directly), almost like saying a new battle royale will "kill" Overwatch just because it has abilities and is a shooting game. They're really different from OW2 in gameplay, "rules", mechanics, feel, artwork, size/scale, etc. Same way as Apex Legends and Valorant got the attention of some players, they're not "killers", games that resemble each other and have good traits for people who already enjoy OW2.
    Yes, a portion of the playerbase will like them and migrate, but not because they're "the same game, but better", but rather for the same reason TFT takes a portion of LOL's playerbase, just being an interesting game with similar qualities and a refreshing look at some concepts.

  • @DandySlayer13
    @DandySlayer13 4 місяці тому

    Watching this lets you know Freedo did not play Marvel Rivalz Closed ALPHA Test. One map actually has parts where once you destroy it it remains that way forever destroyed but for the Alpha since it only had 3 maps Tokyo 2099 is the only one that had this feature. Positioning is extremely important as well especially with the amount of verticality. Punisher or Hela on a high angle is brutal when no one contests them. Positioning yourself as Rocket to ensure you maximize your healing output is critical as well. There is more to the game then people think but its also fun which OW at the moment is lacking.
    Playing OW is boring and frustrating now after playing the CAT for Rivals. Sure the balance was crap but it was an ALPHA test and I expected there to be many quirks and hiccups but for an Alpha it was surprisingly smooth sailing for the most part which attributed to it being fun. I personally am very excited to play again during the CBT. Its been awhile since I've been this hyped for a multiplayer game, in fact its been since the OW closed beta in 2015 that I've been this excited for one!

  • @SSZero
    @SSZero 4 місяці тому

    Overwatch queue times 2019 - 2022: 15 minutes+
    Everyone: BRING BACK OW1 AND 6V6
    OW2 queue times since launch: max 5 minutes in worst seasons, average 2-4 minutes
    Everyone: GAME IS DEAD
    Way too many 🤡 in comments daily.

  • @isaywhatithink1223
    @isaywhatithink1223 4 місяці тому

    Freedo why are your video titles so fucking far off the mark??? 5 v 5 is pretty shit, because one team might just smash the other if they have any sort of coordination. I want to see 20 v 20 because we aren't going to see teams of 20 being coordinated.. I want to try overwatch conquest. like the battlefield gamemode I used to play back in the day. I think that would be fun and unique, maybe complete madness, but how will we know till we try.
    team mates are complete arseholes 99% of the time in OW. I don't want to speak to them. it makes me play worse and makes the experience worse. I just want variation when I play this game. it has lost that random element I found enjoyable when the game first came out.
    PLEASE FREEDO, acknowledge then dismantle my 20 vs 20 type game mode plea 🥺.
    you come across really big headed when it comes to this game, calling people flat earthers, acting like you are billy big bollocks with this game, then I noticed you were bloody plat a few weeks ago! and that's with your fancy set up and talking to team mates and trying be your coordinated yank self.

  • @charlesdotwin
    @charlesdotwin 4 місяці тому

    I think the valve shooter could do well. Its valve, i don't see them putting out an unpolished product (artifact failed cause of their economy system, not gameplay).
    Rivals Gameplay looks ok, but the characters' animations seem really stiff compared to how detailed their models/designs are.
    Rivals will probably limp along for a few months, maybe a year at most. Marvel has a really successful mobile-TCG game right now, DC tried to rush out a competitor for MarvelSnap and the DC game went belly up and shutdown after about 3 months. These external IP games have a huge extra cost, the game has to generate enough money for the Developers AAAND to pay off the IP license. Despite the fatigue, Marvel IP is probably one of the most expensive IPs right now. Its a lead weight that will incentivize the developers to cut corners and milk whales to the max.

  • @GO-sz1nv
    @GO-sz1nv 4 місяці тому

    I love when people defensively bring up player numbers as if gamers haven't been conditioned to accept low-effort slop for years. You know what else has been popular for years? Activision coming out with carbon copies of CoD every year. Popularity isn't proportional to the quality of a game. It's influenced by industry-wide trends and conditions.
    It's the laziest defense possible, and you're just doing Blizzard's PR for free.

  • @hypernoxious
    @hypernoxious 3 місяці тому

    Only Marvel Rivals is in the "same" space.
    Concord will capture Destiny PvP fans(literally bungie devs with Destiny feeling guns and abilities), and Deadlock feels more like a Moba than hero shooter, MAYBE if theres other gamemmodes in Deadlock that remove the 4 lanes, then maybe it could feel more like OW, but for now it's fun just the way it is.

  • @joshuanovak919
    @joshuanovak919 4 місяці тому

    Marvel Rivals is super fun. I played the alpha and had a great time. The only issue I had, which was the exact same issue from OW1, was open queue. If I pick Hella for example cause i’ve played tank and support all night and want to finally play dps, I usually had to switch, because my stupid teammates all picked dps after me. So we either all run dps and just lose horribly and no one gets to have fun, or someone has to bite the bullet and switch to tank/support. It becomes a game of chicken. The same bs happened in OW1 and in competitive it was a mess. Nothing like someone stealing dps, forcing you to play tank/support, yet they can’t hit a single shot lol.

  • @simaoisqueiro9254
    @simaoisqueiro9254 3 місяці тому

    i dont think its fair to picture marvel rivals as unbalanced, ow2 creators are looking forward to this game AND ITS ONLY ALPHA. Ofc there are gonna be imbalances bc its in alpha, but its like the imbalances u described as " broken ". some creators have gone ahead and said they would switch content to marvel rivals instead of ow2...

  • @ABigMoistMan
    @ABigMoistMan 4 місяці тому

    Ow at its core is fun, but everything that surrounds it is shit, and honestly the core game isn't enough to keep me playing the game. The games Shit management, toxic community, lack of energy, lack of fun content, questionable balancing, the constant money grubbing, what's the point of playing ow? Like do people really not care that they only have 2 comp rewards and 1 of them is 8 years old. This game I feel like is way over hyped and is not looked at for what it is. A fiasco. This game could've been something great but instead it's this, over charging for skins, no more pve just focusing on esports, which is probably gonna flop again, and just counter picking to win. I'm so tired of this game, and when marvel rivals comes out I'm fairly certain I'm gonna delete ow, theres no point to keep playing it.. you guys can keep this shit game fr

  • @infamousadam4609
    @infamousadam4609 4 місяці тому

    I don't think kill would be the right word for it. But give a run for it's money these games will do and besides competition is always good. Had it not been for Xbox Live or Xbox Game pass Sony would be losing out with PS+ and its other services to compete. It helps the industry go back and makes things fresh or innovate further. That is my hope for Blizzard and Overwatch 2 that if the other games start implementing new things and exciting ways to jump in every day or every season that take players away from OW2 if that makes Blizzard re-think and further develop for the game and innovate I am all for it. Otherwise if they let the competition run over them then yes I would agree it will kill the game in time but I don't see that as possibility right yet.

  • @pingufan1239
    @pingufan1239 3 місяці тому +1

    I was born into battle and the battle was born 🤓

  • @christophervega8400
    @christophervega8400 4 місяці тому

    I think putting Marvel Rivals in the same spot as OG Overwatch is taking away from its identity; rivals seems to be carving out its own piece of the pie and I say "have at it".
    Hero shooters be damned, I just want to play as a superhero (Spider-Man, Iron Man, the Hulk), these characters I've been admiring since I was a kid.

  • @PAassassin
    @PAassassin 4 місяці тому

    Battleborn, in my opinion, was a great balance of MOBA and FPS. I had a blast playing and have not had the same feeling or experience of wanting to play it everyday with other games since. OW was fun and I did really enjoy it for a decent period of time. But OW2, idk I just cannot get the same feeling for some reason, but I definitely preferred the MOBA level up system in Battleborn over, 'here are you abilities'. If OW moved more in that direction, which they won't, then I may get back into it. I honestly am in love with OW characters and their design which keeps me interested enough to pay attention to updates, but the lack of story or creativity in what a player can do with the character just isn't there for me. I am interested to check out both Concord and Rivals, hopefully one of them will entice some sort of feeling I had with Battleborn. It is a shame that they put no marketing into it and it just died after one "season" due to people hate bashing it because of OW.

  • @1ARSONIST546
    @1ARSONIST546 4 місяці тому

    Don't worry, man. Aaron, he's proud of you. You did well you did a great job making Marvel Rivals look bad aginst overwatch, Yes, Marvel Rivals may not be perfect, but it has potential, not like Overwatch, which needs to stupid things like the hitbox changes to bring back some of the old players for a little bit of time, so stop yapping about the game and get ready. Aaron will give you a car to ride in the next event for your hard work gj.

  • @luminen4051
    @luminen4051 4 місяці тому

    5:06 Valve does not strike out with their games. The only example of that is Artifact which was still a damn good game, just not what the audience wanted, which is maybe what you're eluding to here. But every valve game ever released has been an amazing game at its fundamentals, so to say "Valve is the type of company that strikes out hard with their games" is very over exaggerated. Again that was only Artifact. This only applies to their 'ideas', like you were talking about. Perhaps because their a long time game dev studio and have only recently started to develop other projects(recently in the grand scheme).

  • @Jaytheteen
    @Jaytheteen 4 місяці тому

    Bro after LawBreakers failed I was convinced nothing can beat Overwatch but this is OW2, weak asf, it needs to fade away

  • @MadnessToMyEars
    @MadnessToMyEars 4 місяці тому

    As a huge Dota fan Deadlock has my attention, will definitely be playing. Marvel Rivals looks fun, I could see myself investing time into it but I don't think it will be competitively viable. Concord just looks ass, the art style is terrible and the gameplay looks stiff and janky compared to OW.

  • @ooooswain
    @ooooswain 4 місяці тому

    Concord: Hard flop
    Deadlock: Very successful
    Marvel Rivals: Solid community with potential to beat overwatch in popularity. But it's hard to say cause so much depends on how they handle the game and player feedback.

  • @kroth3049
    @kroth3049 4 місяці тому

    imho, gameplay is important but what is most important is how the developers respond to the community. This is where OW failed. OW and OWL would probably be in a very different spot if when issues arouse Blizzard actually acted instead of just insulting the players/viewers.

  • @ncascini01
    @ncascini01 4 місяці тому

    I do not see OW1 as any less of a shooter than OW2, it was great when it came out and I think that everyone who loved it still remembers the game it was meant to be. That's why we all still play it If we haven't left yet. I don't know about the other games, but i played Marvel Rivals and I loved it. It did feel like OW1. I don't see that as being less of an fps experience either. The potential to break key environments is wonderful. It means that the game isn't hard gated by chokes and characters can't just camp high ground the whole game, like on Dorado. The cathedral like spaces where fights take place are wonderful because they have the potential to allow teams to spread out more if the right meta is encouraging to that positioning. That's what sucked about the trash balance of OW1 after they ruined it. It encouraged stacking of teams and aoe healing/sustain for days and the opposite of risky plays since they were more easily punished. super enclosed environments are part of that issue. Your views on those topics were not congruent with mine.

  • @Xratos1991
    @Xratos1991 4 місяці тому

    I’m not defending OW but I will say this, I play it a lot and have tried many other games with high hopes. But I always find my self getting bored with them. OW feels like the one that I keep coming back to and while Yes I get annoyed with some decisions the game has made I still find my self having fun with it. I’ll never be a high level player and that’s fine with me I’ve been around since OW1. But it’s a game I like to get on play for 2-3 hours and go play something else.

  • @AnubiraiPlus
    @AnubiraiPlus 4 місяці тому

    They all seem terrible. Rivals is the only one I’d try, but without the original actors voicing them, it would ruin the fantasy of it for me.

  • @robertnelson706
    @robertnelson706 4 місяці тому

    Overwatch 2 is still gonna be better then all these games shown. But I do believe Concord will definitely have a fan base as well as Marvel Rivals which I feel is gonna be a good one. Deadlock just looks a little gimmicky like dude said on video and a little lack of funding for the game in my opinion. But Hey were talking about competition right?

  • @stgeorge4559
    @stgeorge4559 4 місяці тому

    Everyone will be looking for the overwatch 2 killer game to rival it.
    Just like everyone looking for the next grand theft auto killer to rival it lol
    When overwatch came out and how it completely taken over the gaming community back in 2016 and how the game is
    Regardless of balance
    Regardless what the pessism of the community thinks
    Overwatch at the end of the day is a good game and they won't be another game like it not for a long time. Waves like that only happen once in a while
    And when overwatch 2 hit
    It still has a core fan base even tho that might not play the game still want to see something else from it and it will
    But the last couple of years or so haven't been good for anyone in any industry not just gaming.

  • @deddrz2549
    @deddrz2549 4 місяці тому

    Finally, someone talking about Deadlick that has at least a basic understanding of what the game is trying to do. Its not like valorant, its not like TF2, It's a MOBA hero shooter, with emphasis on the MOBA part.

  • @data261
    @data261 4 місяці тому

    Concord looks awful……deadlock is a straight moba..
    Marvel is the only one that looks like it could present a prob…but weve been down this road hundreds of times…
    I dont get everybody’s constant need to declare ow dead…like you meed a reason to not play or something…clearly you enjoy it or you wouldnt be playing

  • @lucan465
    @lucan465 4 місяці тому

    If only Jeff would enter the gaming industry again, with the other visionaries of og overwatch and take a giant dump on ow2…
    In saying that, wouldn’t it be interesting if someone tracked Jeff Kaplan down and organised an interview, and see his thoughts on what the game is today?..

  • @saurlex1368
    @saurlex1368 4 місяці тому

    Marvel Rivals looks decent and it's a very well-known existing IP which is advantageous. I think Concord is DoA and the Valve one is always guna be 50/50.

  • @StramSaturdayDBDBDIB
    @StramSaturdayDBDBDIB 3 місяці тому

    Why does a game have to kill another game. Why cant the same genre of games co-exist so theres variety for everyone and everyone can be happy. I still plan on playing Overwatch 2 when Marvel Rivals comes out and i could honestly care less about Concorde. Its healthy for games and fans to have a steady competition in the hero shooter.

  • @wakiza97
    @wakiza97 3 місяці тому +1

    You forgot spacemarine 2 6v6

  • @americoechevarria8387
    @americoechevarria8387 4 місяці тому

    No game will kill overwatch like no game killed destiny, my guy is delusional but what can u expect for a guy that thinks that 5vs5 is better than 6vs6? The only good thing is that we gonna get some solid competition after all these years and that can only be a good thing for us, the players.

  • @bossekungen5401
    @bossekungen5401 4 місяці тому

    Need to test this games to know if they are good. I just wish that Battleborn can come back with this rice of hero shooters. The pvp was a bit to much of a MOBA. But the PvE was really good.

  • @michaelburt8890
    @michaelburt8890 4 місяці тому

    I always liked MOBAs. League and Dota were always too long. Pokémon unite I hate the end game comeback mechanics. So deadlock looks like it would be a cool mash up of shooter and moba.

  • @earthquakenate
    @earthquakenate 4 місяці тому

    Rivals does have a lot of visual clutter. I really hope they fix the choppy animations and large health bars. If Rivals ends up feeling as good as ow2 does on console controllers with good netcode I might drop Ow completely.

  • @Orchal86
    @Orchal86 4 місяці тому

    I don't any of those will make me quit Overwatch, but I certainly want to play Marvel Rivals on the side. I enjoyed it in the alpha but I think it is still to different to Overwatch to be just a better version of a game I love.

  • @seananthonybenoit
    @seananthonybenoit 4 місяці тому

    Deadlock looks more like a game called Natural Selection 2, Unreal Tournament 2004's onslaught mode, or the design of Command and Conquer: Renegade

  • @joeschipper6465
    @joeschipper6465 4 місяці тому

    The game is just completely ruined since season 9 and it was a mess before that too, ive been coping that theyd fix the game since they released brig originally and im sick of it, hopefully valve cooks up something

  • @nex5691
    @nex5691 4 місяці тому

    At this point overwatch killed itself already
    And if u sayin these games could kill ow nah it wouldn’t I’ve seen ow killers in the past and they all failed to kill overwatch
    On overwatch killer at this point is blizzard themselves

  • @asddap
    @asddap 4 місяці тому

    About the deadlock leaks. The game is still in alpha, not beta if I'm not mistaken. Basically not ready for public test yet but somehow already got leaked.

  • @aguywithadyna
    @aguywithadyna 4 місяці тому

    The only one I see threathening to OW is Rjvals, but still I wasn't impressed. Loved the art style, but the sound nd and gameplay need a lot of work.

  • @DylanDValentine
    @DylanDValentine 4 місяці тому

    I think first person gameplay is pretty high on the list of requirements for the fan base. Marvel Rivals reminds me of smite more than it does overwatch personally. Concord has certainly peaked my interest the most of the 3.

  • @romanrm1
    @romanrm1 3 місяці тому

    Third-person view is a non-starter, and 2 of the 3 look like games from 1997 back when they didn't invent colors yet.

  • @zkilla2924
    @zkilla2924 4 місяці тому

    hey man i hope you’re not done streaming. you’re the only streamer i can stand watching so i hope you make it a regular thing

  • @superspetz24
    @superspetz24 4 місяці тому

    Sure they could kill OW but they won’t let’s be real. Has nothing to do with how good the game is. OW isn’t getting new players any time soon and the current ones aren’t in any rush to leave.

  • @PeidosFTW
    @PeidosFTW 4 місяці тому

    13:30 I WISh that were true, brigs plagued my gold-diamond lobbies at the time, I stopped playing during the brigpocalypse because of that