do people really still get bored watching puff? Especially hbox? I think it's sick for a lot of reasons unlike say Nitendude/Dizzkidboogie IC's. Reagrdless though Hbox has been taking more risk since midway through last year and he does some pretty flashy stuff on a regular basis like offstage rests and more baits/mind games. I feel like a lot of people just watch the doc or read some comments and adopt the mob mentality.
From what I gather, people don't like watching Hbox's Puff because he plays her defensively...like if he was more aggresive people wouldn't mind as much! :/
Uramenshi Sama Because Jigglypuff Is Just Not Very Fun To Look At Its Not Her Skill Its How Many People Love Characters More Then Puff Bottom Tiers Were Actully More Famous When I Looked At Tournaments.
Great vid. Besides Fox, I think Falco is Puff's hardest matchup. Don't know why Puff gets so much hate. I love watching hungrybox defeat all these top level Foxes. There is no trade, no percentage, where Fox does not have the advantage over Puff. Fox dtilt kills Puff; his up tilt kills Puff. His up and bair kills Puff. Upsmash kills Puff. To be so disadvantaged and still win... well, makes me want to play Puff as well ;)
Nah, the 20GX C. Falcon is next hardest after Fox. When Falcon plays the MU (basically how 20gx falcon plays against her) it becomes pretty tough for puff. He can actually combo her which is a trait very few characters have at all. He probably has the best combo game on puff of any character. His DD, CC and aerial speed mean that puff isnt as safe as she's used to being. Basically both characters can kill the other off one opening so it becomes really high stakes and most puffs are really uncomfortable not playing super defensive. Also maybe Marth could be 2nd place instead of falcon hard to say. But based on the matchup of playstyles I feel that most puffs would feel more disadvantaged against optimized falcons.
hardnewstakenharder just listing a bunch of disadvantages for one party doesn't mean the character is at a "disadvantage". - Up throw into rest/side b/up air/re-grab dead - up throw onto platform for frame trap, dead - back aired off stage, dead
Puff gets hate because she loses 1 match up and it's all anyone talks about when it comes to how good of a character she is. She loses to fox...like every other character in the game except for Falco and Marth who can go neutral at best. She beats floaties because she does everything they want to do but does it better. She gets a 100% safe edge guard which is pretty easy to pull off, can recover from anywhere if not outright KOed (one of the biggest things people always say is that she's easy to kill. She's easy to kill off the top and that's it. If she dies off the side, chances are nearly every character would be dead if they were in the same situation, they'd just die to an edge hog or something just as easy). She's also an extremely cheesy character, which I think is the biggest reason people hate her. She relies on 1 move more so than any other top tier, and has a 1 frame instakill. Theoretically, if people never made a mistake, she wouldn't be that great. The problem is that 1 missed tech at any percent is jab reset into rest for her, and like Fang says above, there are a couple of simple set ups that lead into it. She takes skill to play, but there is literally nobody who I think enjoys playing against her.
I think you should also mention that puff has one of the best defensive games. Don't forget he is a strong wall that can be hit once, if you manage to do it, then back to neutral in most cases. Puff dying at 60% against fox doesn't mean that much in that regard, almost every other character kills him at normal % like everyone else. keep the great videos, regards.
i don't see anyone talking about Falcon as jiggs' second hardest matchup. with how much damage some of his better moves do, his large up and neutral-airs, his combos that can bring Puff to kill percent from 30-40, and the constant short hop fast falls making hitting him hard with the constant hurtbox size shifts, Falcon is the second hardest MU for Puff imo
As a Puff main, I think that Marth is Puff's second hardest matchup. If the Marth is super safe about spacing and timing mixups, then it's so hard for Puff to ever get in on him. Yes, Puff has a great punish game on Marth, but so does Puff on Fox and Falco, and that doesn't make those easy matchups by any stretch of the imagination either.
@@GAVINthePG But Marth does not have projectile either and you said Marth. Falcon is better at going in than Marth (even tho fair is good) because of his speed and aerial drift. He can nair, upair or even knee. When the puff tries to crouch to dodge a grab or aerial, he just stomps her. It's also easy for falcon to get out of Puff's range fast.
I used to play ultimate but recently I have been playing melee the past months, and well i'm not going back, but what was useful is that a lot of my puff translated pretty well to melee. I just needed to play a couple slippi matches to learn some timing. But one thing I was lacking is some tech from melee. So over all I slowly have been implementing these and it's making my puff more integrated into a "melee style" if you will. Great help, thanks.
I really think more videos on specific mixup situations that come up frequently in different matchups would be cool. Identify a situation, run through all the options, etc. etc. maybe like "Matchup mix- up guide" i.e. Fox-Puff bair placement, falco-fox approach/laser, etc.
Probably falcon. Many people would think that the edge guarding against falcon would make jigglypuff take it easily, but falcon has a lot of things confirmed on jigglypuff. Such as down throw knee at most percentages.
hardest other than fox is probably marth or falco but most falcos and marths are dumbos in the matchup so it doesnt appear that way to the greater melee population
Falco mu is rough. He has good kill setups, but no where as painful as fox's. Marth is rough, you need perfect spacing the whole time, but so does Marth so it's just stressful for both of them.
I know people have been asking for a mix of advanced and beginner content, so could you do videos on micro situations? Pick a common situation, like falco short hopping towards a fox at close range and just going through the rps of the situation. What moves beat what? What are each characters options. Love your content. Keep it up.
Personally Marth I hate playing against Marth - It's a dirty matchup either sides! (Crouch Rests, Uptilt Rests or Marth tippers you to high heaven!) Falcon is possibly the hardest though, a well spaced Falcon can rip a Jigglypuff to pieces! Falco is probably the weakest of the Matchups, it's a Space animal with a weaker recovery than Fox.
This video is great. I really needed to see some of these things. Hardest matchup besides fox for puff is Marth IMO. Hard to get in on Marth and he has great kill setups on her.
I think the hardest matchup besides fox.... Mmm, maybe marth? Also i know everyone hates them but, Can you make a ''How to practice icies'' ? ... Or a ''How to practice game & watch'' The G&W one will be sick tho.
Kevin Ogden Sheik has a pretty hard time against Puff. Most top players say it's either even or Puff is favored. A lot of Sheik's bread and butter does not work on Puff, and actually ends up causing Sheik to get rested.
I'll be honest, I find it easy to get a wall of pain started, but difficult to keep a wall of pain going, mainly because of bair's large amount of landing lag when not L-cancelled, a technique I have yet to master.
The audio sounded just fine. Puffs second worst match up is either Marth or Falco. I want to say it's Falco on the theoretical side because of how oppressive lasers can be to a Puff trying to approach + shine and dtilt killing so well. Practically, Marths have done better against Puff than Falco for the most part. If I had to choose one, I'd say Marth.
All right, I know you've already posted a lot of videos for Falco, but this one is a problem that should be obviously stated. Shine has hit stun and it messes with your timing for everything. Shine landing, waved ash, multi, I think you get the point.
Peanutz996 Better doesn't necessarily mean more difficult to fight based on matchup. The hardest character for a Pikachu to fight is icies and they're barely 8th on the tier list
Haven't played a great deal of the match up, but I'm guessing marth could be quite difficult if the marth is good at spacing, but I think in practice this doesn't happen as marths tend to be space animal killers these days as opposed to being able to play neutral over and over again
I think puffs hardest matchup is falcon with how explosively fast he is it's hard to make room and recovering I found is a nightmare compared to other matchups
Doctor Mario. His pills are like Falco's lasers with the hitstun except they do 6-8%. Same mobility as falco and arguably 2nd or 3rd best rest punish besides Fox and Puff. Also isn't a fast faller so harder to land a rest and people are unfamiliar with the Doc matchup.
Easily Marth. While Puff has a potentially deadlier punish game, and can abuse "Marthritis", Marth has confirmed tipper setups off grabs and forward airs, better range than puff, and a good flowchart off options based on Puff's DI (all of which can kill puff)
Kaoz420 Idk I think laudandous was right when he talked about match ups "I look at what I can do and then what they can do and I call it 9-1 to there favor"
Marth because he can out range puff with bis massive disjoint, and pivot tippers for stupid early kills. Then Falco if he's willing to be patient and play the laser game
My puff sucks in neutral idk where to improve on to have better neutral im always getting hit by marths fairs, Falco laser, etc. I just don't know how to get around it or improve my neutral to beat that.
I think Falco can mess up Jigglypuff really hard. Second would be Marth though, mainly since he is unable to grab a crouching Puff, but can wall her out with aerials. Falco combos Puff super well, it's just that we haven't seen it done in a while. PPMD ;(
Hey, I know this is a really shitty thing to do, but does anyone have any suggestions that I could use to improve my most recent TAS video that I could apply to my future shit?
I think falco if he knows how to laser in the mu but I scroob bb and also struggle with falcon even though I know it's just because my spacing is not the best
I have a friend who is my rival that is even with me in wins against my Jigglypuff and he uses Luigi. I realise what he does a lot is whenever I back air. He would crouch cancel and grab, shiled grab, or shield down smash a lot. Any tips to counter that with Jigglypuff?
Hi! I was wondering if anyone knows of a reasonably cheap laptop that can handle emulating Melee. I want this so that I can practice using the 20xx training pack, as I think it would improve my timing and overall skill lots. Thank you for making great content btw!
Jigglypuff's hardest matchup is pleasing the crowd :(
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do people really still get bored watching puff? Especially hbox? I think it's sick for a lot of reasons unlike say Nitendude/Dizzkidboogie IC's. Reagrdless though Hbox has been taking more risk since midway through last year and he does some pretty flashy stuff on a regular basis like offstage rests and more baits/mind games. I feel like a lot of people just watch the doc or read some comments and adopt the mob mentality.
From what I gather, people don't like watching Hbox's Puff because he plays her defensively...like if he was more aggresive people wouldn't mind as much! :/
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Uramenshi Sama Because Jigglypuff Is Just Not Very Fun To Look At Its Not Her Skill Its How Many People Love Characters More Then Puff
Bottom Tiers Were Actully More Famous When I Looked At Tournaments.
I couldn't even tell the audio was off
EVERYONE needs to play Jigglypuff for a while in order to understand the importance of aerial drift control.
HOW TO PLAY JIGGLYPUFF:
-Do bairs
-Land bairs
-Spam bairs
-Train bears that can bair so they can bair with your bairs
you gotta let them hibernate multiple times too ;)
Yo dawg, I heard you like bairs
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4:36 I just wanna give hungrybox a hug
Great vid. Besides Fox, I think Falco is Puff's hardest matchup.
Don't know why Puff gets so much hate. I love watching hungrybox defeat all these top level Foxes. There is no trade, no percentage, where Fox does not have the advantage over Puff. Fox dtilt kills Puff; his up tilt kills Puff. His up and bair kills Puff. Upsmash kills Puff. To be so disadvantaged and still win... well, makes me want to play Puff as well ;)
Nah, the 20GX C. Falcon is next hardest after Fox. When Falcon plays the MU (basically how 20gx falcon plays against her) it becomes pretty tough for puff. He can actually combo her which is a trait very few characters have at all. He probably has the best combo game on puff of any character. His DD, CC and aerial speed mean that puff isnt as safe as she's used to being. Basically both characters can kill the other off one opening so it becomes really high stakes and most puffs are really uncomfortable not playing super defensive. Also maybe Marth could be 2nd place instead of falcon hard to say. But based on the matchup of playstyles I feel that most puffs would feel more disadvantaged against optimized falcons.
hardnewstakenharder just listing a bunch of disadvantages for one party doesn't mean the character is at a "disadvantage".
- Up throw into rest/side b/up air/re-grab dead
- up throw onto platform for frame trap, dead
- back aired off stage, dead
@Fang, the Fencer you trying to say its even cuz its clearly not
Puff gets hate because she loses 1 match up and it's all anyone talks about when it comes to how good of a character she is. She loses to fox...like every other character in the game except for Falco and Marth who can go neutral at best. She beats floaties because she does everything they want to do but does it better. She gets a 100% safe edge guard which is pretty easy to pull off, can recover from anywhere if not outright KOed (one of the biggest things people always say is that she's easy to kill. She's easy to kill off the top and that's it. If she dies off the side, chances are nearly every character would be dead if they were in the same situation, they'd just die to an edge hog or something just as easy). She's also an extremely cheesy character, which I think is the biggest reason people hate her. She relies on 1 move more so than any other top tier, and has a 1 frame instakill. Theoretically, if people never made a mistake, she wouldn't be that great. The problem is that 1 missed tech at any percent is jab reset into rest for her, and like Fang says above, there are a couple of simple set ups that lead into it. She takes skill to play, but there is literally nobody who I think enjoys playing against her.
Armando Martinez The Melee Handbook even says Fox wins 63% and jigs 37%
As a puff main I can confirm Marth is jigg's hardest match up because he can fairly easily wall out a jigglypuff.
one huge aspect of bair that you didnt really discuss is SH instant bair to second hop. its like a 2 frame window and certainly deserves some focus.
ah. yea ur right
Richard Zapp It's definitely not as strict as 2 frames.
I think you should also mention that puff has one of the best defensive games.
Don't forget he is a strong wall that can be hit once, if you manage to do it, then back to neutral in most cases.
Puff dying at 60% against fox doesn't mean that much in that regard, almost every other character kills him at normal % like everyone else.
keep the great videos, regards.
Spankin DaBagel I think it might be. I literally switched from y jump to tap jump with puff so I can get the second hop
AlejoHunter she*
i don't see anyone talking about Falcon as jiggs' second hardest matchup. with how much damage some of his better moves do, his large up and neutral-airs, his combos that can bring Puff to kill percent from 30-40, and the constant short hop fast falls making hitting him hard with the constant hurtbox size shifts, Falcon is the second hardest MU for Puff imo
As a Puff main, I think that Marth is Puff's second hardest matchup.
If the Marth is super safe about spacing and timing mixups, then it's so hard for Puff to ever get in on him. Yes, Puff has a great punish game on Marth, but so does Puff on Fox and Falco, and that doesn't make those easy matchups by any stretch of the imagination either.
I agree, I’m a Puff main too, and would say Marth or Falco.
@@GAVINthePGWhat about Falcon? Always felt like Falcon was shitting on floaties harder than Marth
@@TheBeggies95 Falcon isn’t bad for Puff, especially since he has no projectile. So if Puff plays right, Falcon has to go in and play Puffs game.
@@GAVINthePG But Marth does not have projectile either and you said Marth. Falcon is better at going in than Marth (even tho fair is good) because of his speed and aerial drift. He can nair, upair or even knee. When the puff tries to crouch to dodge a grab or aerial, he just stomps her. It's also easy for falcon to get out of Puff's range fast.
I used to play ultimate but recently I have been playing melee the past months, and well i'm not going back, but what was useful is that a lot of my puff translated pretty well to melee. I just needed to play a couple slippi matches to learn some timing. But one thing I was lacking is some tech from melee. So over all I slowly have been implementing these and it's making my puff more integrated into a "melee style" if you will. Great help, thanks.
im a falcon main and i was super hype when i saw this video, i have been thinking about picking up puff sometime in the future
"how to practice jigglypuff: well you can't do many things, just do back airs and practice rest setups"
what a great character
If you want to improve your Puff, check out this Fast Fall Auto Cancel Nair tutorial video ua-cam.com/video/fGXMNJXfljM/v-deo.html
5:40 - Is that our boy CDK behind Alex19?
Thanks for making this guide. It’s really going to help me learn Puff.
I really think more videos on specific mixup situations that come up frequently in different matchups would be cool. Identify a situation, run through all the options, etc. etc. maybe like "Matchup mix- up guide" i.e. Fox-Puff bair placement, falco-fox approach/laser, etc.
Marth, if the player knows how to wall out Jiggs it's virtually impossible to get in.
I been waiting for this for so long. THANKS!
Awesome video as always kira
THANK YOU I've been waiting on this vid for a while great stuff
Probably falcon. Many people would think that the edge guarding against falcon would make jigglypuff take it easily, but falcon has a lot of things confirmed on jigglypuff. Such as down throw knee at most percentages.
How to practice jigglypu- I MEAN KIRBY: press pause 2 press l+r+a+ start step 3 pick fox and ur done
Marth for sure
I'd say she struggles against Falcon, who can break the gap between them and punish most of her tools easily
Shadownite 1105 She edgeguards the hell out of Falcon though, and Falcon really can't stop her from getting ledge.
hardest other than fox is probably marth or falco but most falcos and marths are dumbos in the matchup so it doesnt appear that way to the greater melee population
Falco mu is rough. He has good kill setups, but no where as painful as fox's. Marth is rough, you need perfect spacing the whole time, but so does Marth so it's just stressful for both of them.
What does Jigglypuff have that Europe doesn't?
Rising Pound
marth definitely, his disjointed hotboxes an fast air game can space out most of the puff's moves
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VERY GOOD.
In Order:
Falco
Falcon (Style Dependent)
Marth (If the marth knows how to pivot fsmash)
Doc
Peach
I love how free the peach mu is, it's so good. (Wow this is an old comment)
I know people have been asking for a mix of advanced and beginner content, so could you do videos on micro situations? Pick a common situation, like falco short hopping towards a fox at close range and just going through the rps of the situation. What moves beat what? What are each characters options. Love your content. Keep it up.
for sure
Personally Marth I hate playing against Marth - It's a dirty matchup either sides! (Crouch Rests, Uptilt Rests or Marth tippers you to high heaven!)
Falcon is possibly the hardest though, a well spaced Falcon can rip a Jigglypuff to pieces!
Falco is probably the weakest of the Matchups, it's a Space animal with a weaker recovery than Fox.
Jigglypuff is actually pretty hard
There's a reason there's only 3 Top 100 Puffs
too boring/unlikable?
puff is fun tho
Eddie The Internet Pacifist theres probably more but soft is inactive. still very few nonetheless
Puff is actually sick as fuck and takes skill. She's not one dimensional like Nintendude's IC's
At least for me a patient Falcon is Puffs hardest matchup.
This video is great. I really needed to see some of these things. Hardest matchup besides fox for puff is Marth IMO. Hard to get in on Marth and he has great kill setups on her.
I think the hardest matchup besides fox.... Mmm, maybe marth? Also i know everyone hates them but, Can you make a ''How to practice icies'' ? ... Or a ''How to practice game & watch'' The G&W one will be sick tho.
Ness Gemios i think everyone hates wobbling, not the climbers themselves. Handoffs are sick imo
i dont hate icies :) i love them, they're pretty cool. i dont mind wobbling really, if i get wavedash > jab > grabbed, it's my fault
How to practice G&W
Practice L-Canceling.....
oh wait
I'd say her toughest mu besides Fox is G&W. The rest of the high tiers are either even, or ever so slight disadvantage. Peach is free.
This was so helpful dude thanks
Can you maybe do "how to practice Samus" next? Love your videos!
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Happy holidays to you
Besides Fox, I'd say Sheik with Marth in close third. However I still believe it's 50/50 or even skewed in Puff's favor.
Marth, Falco, Falcon, and even Dr Mario all do much better against puff than Sheik does.
Kevin Ogden Sheik has a pretty hard time against Puff. Most top players say it's either even or Puff is favored. A lot of Sheik's bread and butter does not work on Puff, and actually ends up causing Sheik to get rested.
Probs falcon or marth
Marth is Jiggly's hardest match up imo. Jiggs is kinda slow so it's hard to punish him well, and outspacing is just bleh.
I'll be honest, I find it easy to get a wall of pain started, but difficult to keep a wall of pain going, mainly because of bair's large amount of landing lag when not L-cancelled, a technique I have yet to master.
Sheik and Marth do very well vs Puff, having good spacing ofc.
Watching that clip of Mango puff vs Armada in genesis 1 is the reason I play puff :3
I love how half the video is practicing back airs lmao
The audio sounded just fine.
Puffs second worst match up is either Marth or Falco. I want to say it's Falco on the theoretical side because of how oppressive lasers can be to a Puff trying to approach + shine and dtilt killing so well. Practically, Marths have done better against Puff than Falco for the most part. If I had to choose one, I'd say Marth.
All right, I know you've already posted a lot of videos for Falco, but this one is a problem that should be obviously stated. Shine has hit stun and it messes with your timing for everything. Shine landing, waved ash, multi, I think you get the point.
puff's hardest matchup is marth, he walls her aerials out super hard in the neutral
can you do a video on marth's throw/di mixups?
on what character
SSBM Tutorials spacies would probably be the most useful, but I think a guide to marths throws as a whole would be cool.
I'm surprised I don't see more people saying falcon is her next hardest matchup tbh
CP Adagio that's What I'm thinking falcon is hell for floats
Falco and marth are just better.
Peanutz996 As true as that is you cant just count out falcon like he's trash 😂
Peanutz996 Better doesn't necessarily mean more difficult to fight based on matchup. The hardest character for a Pikachu to fight is icies and they're barely 8th on the tier list
what I meant was falco and marth are better at every mathup than falcon.
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I feel like Marth is a really hard one because he can out space her with his sword, but I could be wrong. Other contenders would be Falco and IC's
Haven't played a great deal of the match up, but I'm guessing marth could be quite difficult if the marth is good at spacing, but I think in practice this doesn't happen as marths tend to be space animal killers these days as opposed to being able to play neutral over and over again
I think puffs hardest matchup is falcon with how explosively fast he is it's hard to make room and recovering I found is a nightmare compared to other matchups
Doctor Mario. His pills are like Falco's lasers with the hitstun except they do 6-8%. Same mobility as falco and arguably 2nd or 3rd best rest punish besides Fox and Puff. Also isn't a fast faller so harder to land a rest and people are unfamiliar with the Doc matchup.
Easily Marth. While Puff has a potentially deadlier punish game, and can abuse "Marthritis", Marth has confirmed tipper setups off grabs and forward airs, better range than puff, and a good flowchart off options based on Puff's DI (all of which can kill puff)
Peter Griffin dash grab on marth is very safe :P
This video is uploaded exactly 5 years ago
Marth is her hardest matchup
I think the hardest matchup for puff is Marth. Closing that space and getting in past that sword is very tricky.
Reiden Lightman puff vs marth is puff's favor at the highest level
benjaminKSA That's very debatable.
Spankin DaBagel hungrybox, m2k- actually, all five gods agree
I refer to this video a lot. Thanks!
glad it helps =)
Doc, marth, and ic climbers all tend to give puffs some trouble id say
I think Falco is Puff's hardest matchup or maybe even Sheik, Hbox itself said that Falco beats Jigglypuff.
Kaoz420 Idk I think laudandous was right when he talked about match ups "I look at what I can do and then what they can do and I call it 9-1 to there favor"
Marth because he can out range puff with bis massive disjoint, and pivot tippers for stupid early kills. Then Falco if he's willing to be patient and play the laser game
I'd say Falcon Puff is hardest besides fox. Third is young link
Young Link is another tough matchup...just look at how long Armada held Hbox off with him lol
Luigi is actually pretty good against Puff
I feel as though sheik is puffs hardest match up because of all the kill confirms sheik has.
Besides Fox, Marth is probably her hardest matchup.
that video is very helpfull for me thx dude
My puff sucks in neutral idk where to improve on to have better neutral im always getting hit by marths fairs, Falco laser, etc. I just don't know how to get around it or improve my neutral to beat that.
Great video... Now We need a video about Mr. Game & Watch skills and where set...
Game and watch I personally feel like you need to know ledge cancels for aerials and up throw combos with edge guarding
Thank you so much, better than no advice...
nathanforde3 NP he is really fun to play atleast for me
Fox really ain't that bad. It's Marth that's a real pain
Jimmy Keffer lol jiggs beats marth
I for one find it hard to approach Marth with puff, his range is just too hella
Probably a patient Marth is her hardest matchup.
i flippin hate jiggs but thank you so much for all the work you put into these! Super easy to follow.
Please do a how to beat peach
marth puff falcon (on battlefield and dl64)
Nice! Right before Genesis. =)
I think Falco can mess up Jigglypuff really hard. Second would be Marth though, mainly since he is unable to grab a crouching Puff, but can wall her out with aerials. Falco combos Puff super well, it's just that we haven't seen it done in a while. PPMD ;(
These tutorials are very nice
Now i just need a GC controller
Hey, I know this is a really shitty thing to do, but does anyone have any suggestions that I could use to improve my most recent TAS video that I could apply to my future shit?
I'd say Doc is her 2nd hardest matchup
I use Z for guaranteed dj backairs. Just grip x and z and practically same time
I think falco if he knows how to laser in the mu but I scroob bb and also struggle with falcon even though I know it's just because my spacing is not the best
Can you do a video on Dr. Mario please? I don't care what it is, I just wanna see the doc.
we have at least 2. but yea more are coming
Thanks for responding! Sorry, i didn't notice you guys had any Doc videos, but that's cool that more are coming! Cheers.
Young Link or Doctor Mario, she beats or goes even with every other top tier including falco
Grew up with melee, mained jigglypuff and link. Then I played ultimate and now I cant even play melee because I got used to ultimate
Thank You!!!
I have a friend who is my rival that is even with me in wins against my Jigglypuff and he uses Luigi. I realise what he does a lot is whenever I back air. He would crouch cancel and grab, shiled grab, or shield down smash a lot. Any tips to counter that with Jigglypuff?
Now do a video on how to Game & Watch.
1. Pray
2. Judge
3. Repeat
***** Parachute is quite good too.
Parachute isn't even in melee lol
Nair.
Hi! I was wondering if anyone knows of a reasonably cheap laptop that can handle emulating Melee. I want this so that I can practice using the 20xx training pack, as I think it would improve my timing and overall skill lots. Thank you for making great content btw!
James Speed you can put 20xx on a wii with homebrew
James Speed there are quite a few videos up on UA-cam on how to do it it requires a 2gb sd
Surprisingly Luigi
Could you do a video on comboing with sheik?
Hardest match up Kirby hands down
I know man.
Damn straight kirby op
Do a how to beat Falco
just back air
i lost it at holiday johns lmao
marth for the hardest. Probably marth and icys for 2nd and 3rd. Like ice climbers are just really awkward to fight.