VW ID4 2024 Update - Full review: Well worth the wait!
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- Опубліковано 16 кві 2024
- A full review of the newly updated Volkswagen ID.4 Pro. The 2024 model of the ID4 just got more range, more power and better charging. How good is it and is it worth buying?
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The question is. XPENG inside?
Not yet. This is the MEB platform.
Love it! , especially the software update and power increase through the rear wheels !
Really a great car, especially if it is your first EV. Easy handling, no annoying screen-only interface, real stalks.
Easy to use software, smoothly working assist-systems.
And it is really quiet also at higher speeds.
And with the head-up display you can keep you eyes on the street.
Good summary 👍
HUD is realy a game changer.
Dont ID7 come With HUD as standard ?
@peternystrom921 yes I think so.
VW has intelligent regen. You drive on D and the car reacts to your surroundings. That's more efficient than one pedal driving. VW has done it right. Tesla is not as advanced.
And it actually works out really good!
It's also much more efficient to use regen as little as possible and just roll out, so this increases range as well.
Best ID4 review I've seen. Well done. Thanks
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it
A complete and thoughtful review. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed..Thank you!
Thanks for your video. On the last iv4 , I heard people say that the sat nav is bad. Even if you used your phone. That sometimes the screen would even go blank. Has this been fixed or is it still bad? Thanks
I had no such issues during 1 week of testing
This is an excellent review, thank you! I've subscribed to your channel on the back of it. When will you be putting up the other ID.4 video you mentioned?
Glad you enjoyed it. 👍
Here's the other video:
ua-cam.com/video/xWXuLcgUt2s/v-deo.html
@@ItsOnlyElectric thank you! I actually found it soon after I posted to you! Keep up the excellent work 👍
So individual mod configured all in Sport With the AWD PRO S 0-60 in probably 3 secs?
Great review. Do you know when the updated ID3 is out? Need that preconditioning and software, but not the extra space.
ID3 GTX seems to be the first in the lineup with the new screen and software and drive unit. Coming second half of 2024.
Supergood relaxing video💯👍 tack!
Undrar hur standard chassit är i förhållande till DCC?
Kan du inte testa Enyaq 85 som jämförelse till denna? Lite andra,bättre knappar i interiören,ratten. Ligger nästan i samma pris båda två nu med. Utrymme bak? Ljudnivå osv. Vore kanon🙏
Tackar!
Emyaq är en intressant jämförelse helt klar. Har testat den enyag RS..ska se vad jag kan få ihop. 👍
Trevlig genomgång! Var testbilen med "Sportpaket" och "Sportpaket Plus" för chassireglering, kommer du ihåg det? Är rädd att den blir för stötig, men som du säger, det kanske gör att bilen känns "mindre".
Hej, sportpaket plus på bilen i videon med dcc. Trevlig fjädringscomfort tyckte jag och nice när det är justerbart. Inte för störigt enligt mig.
Very good review. Soon my new id 4 will be at home and I have not regretted it.
Thanks!
Congratulations to a great car, hope you'll get it soon. What version did you go for.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Within a week. A black ID4 Pro.
@robertboo6878 nice!
It was worth buying from the begining!
Drove it, liked it , wanted one , was told up to 12 months
Wow, that's a long delivery time. County?
@@ItsOnlyElectric 3 months form me, januari 2024.
Ordered mine 12th January and I collect it on Friday 26th April so just over 3 months. I'm in the UK.
How many kw's do you get on regen? Can you display the regen kw's live?
You like the sport suspension setting, one of the most positive comments from the 2023 model was the suspensions ability to soak up bumps, opposite to Tesla Y I guess.
What suspension set up do you get if you don't option the adjustable one. Soft, comfort, sport ?
Thanks for the review
Only tested the active dampers in the ID4. But tested the normal one in the id3. And both better than the Tesla Model Y..
Didn't see any number for the Regen but highest amount kicks in when breaking
@ItsOnlyElectric In status tile you can see the current power (+ and -). In the 58kWh ID.3 is up to 80 kW regen while breaking. The 77 kWh should be around 100. All MEB cars (old and new software) can show it.
@drakonhawk great info, thanks!
great review. Looking at AWD EV options - Ford Mach E, Subaru Soterra and the ID4. Your comments were very helpful. It doesn't look like we have that blue colour hear in Canada. Too bad, as it is very eye-catching.
Make sure to give the Ioniq 5 a check. I researched for about 2 years and ended up deciding it was the best in this class that isn't luxury level.
Thanks!
Also liked the blue color. Light and eye-catching.
Looking at the AWD or GTX? Out of the alternatives you list I would go for ID4.
Others alternatives: Opniq5 (update this year), Model Y
Nice review
Rented one last spring and liked it generally, but was annoyed with the haptic buttons on the steering wheel and the lack of adjustable regen (just two settings). I know it may seem a silly thing to complain about, but the e-golf has 5 regen settings, and I actually like to use one of the ones in the middle for regular driving instead of D. VW gets me hooked on that feature and then they took it away in the ID.4? Also the seat adjustment memory didn't seem to work -- kept going back to the default or some previous setting. Also would like real leather steering wheel, like on the e-Golf. I'm OK with the vinyl seats, but no vinyl on steering wheels.
Agree With your first point regarding Regen and the haptics.
Nice review. Does it still have the same weak spray nozzle pump for the window wipers? The old one is pathetically underpowered and almost useless at speeds above 60km/h. Especially during nordic winters.
Thanks!
Didn't experience bad enough weather to see any shortcomings of the nozzles. So not sure
I love your videos! But isn't it called ski hatch (not latch)?
Thanks for noticing..sometimes I say things that I know are wrong but don't have the opportunity of time to retake. That's life 🤣
Glad you like my videos 👍
I really like the big glass roof! And it isn't too dark /tinted like the tesla y.
Yes and that's great with a sun shade
Unless you live in one of the southerns U.S. states. The tinting is not enough.
Unless the Tesla, it has an electric, cull cover, so that's not really an issue.
Nothing about the new chairs? Thought that you as a fellow tall personen would like the thigh support?
Did record but with broken sound so I left it out.😕 But good seats, a bit hard. Thigh support good extractable with good angle.snd nice with done subtle massage.
Hi, I like you video. Any chance you could do one on the bidirectional charging, VW has released the software with my 2024 model but the rest remains a mystery. V2L, V2H and V2G
Thanks 🙏
I own a ID3 with activated V2L..will experiment with that.
Nice review! Do you think heat pump is mandatory for ID4? It`s additional equipment now.
In Scandinavia i would say it is mandatory.
@@ItsOnlyElectric So for Latvia probably as well. But what does it give? +1000eur here.
In Sweden it's included in the base trim .
My favorite German EV , but I have to wait until they mount at least 95kWh battery with AWD model . I mean real autobahn ( 130km/hour ) range about 400km .
Hopefully it gets the new bigger pack soon..
The question is how often do you need to drive that far, and whats the problem with charging 20 minutes on the Journey ?
@@joshuakirsch9813 400km autobahn is what I am doing without stopping . End of Topic .
Thank you for your review. In the UK the biggest rival is probably the Enyaq. For about the same money we get a lot more equipment and a nicer interior.
Yes, that's a tough nut to crack for VW. Cannibalizing on its own brands..
Amazing car! ❤
Great review. I know ID.4 is off my list now.
Thanks! Can I ask what made you cross it from your list?
Great update and now a better choice than the Tesla Y. Hopefully (for Tesla) the updated model Y will lift it back to the front again - but the competition today is fierce and they don’t have the market for themselves anymore. I guess that’s also why their stock price is plummeting…
Yes, competition on another level today
Great review, I have one on order, can you please do a nighttime video for interior and exterior lighting?
Nice, which one did you order?
Font have the car, it's a press car from VW
@@ItsOnlyElectric so in the uk, the model I’ve ordered is the Match Pro, RWD 286ps 👍🏻
@valleysofneptune nice! Hope you'll enjoy it
Same power as the Honda Proluge AWD...has this updated one made it to America yet?
Yes possible to order in US now.
I like it! Good review! I like the way VW really feels like ”in the middle” like Volvo used to be.
Regarding one pedal driving. I hate it! I feel car sick when driving and prefer it how Mercedes and VW et al. does it
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Yes right in the middle living up to the strategy of Volkswagen as a brand
Can you measure the boot size. Volume is not useful but width, depth and height means you can understand
Good point ☝️
Isn't the software updated on the old cars as well then?
4+ for new big screen not on the small older screen
Why cant it be charged to 100% each time? Thanks for great reviews 😊
Because the NMC battery chemistry in the battery cells don't like to be charged fully, they take damage and charged to 100% too often.
Do you normally charge it to 80-85% to maximize the battery life.
My ID5 arrives next month. Really excited to test in the real world. The EV6 is great but such a pathetic boot that it isn't even an option for me. Model Y boot is the best and I don't understand why more companies don't offer large boots. A real issue when purchasing a car for me.
Nice, the ID5 looks better than the ID4. Which version did you go for?
“But I keep the cups holder”yeah, as a Swedish, fika is really important 😅 thanks for the review. I’m planning to buy a new EV and VW has good offers on the ID4 / ID5 at the moment, let’s see. I will do a test drive as well 🙌🏼
EDIT : I forgot to talk about the new layout of the buttons on the steering wheel. Thank you VW 🥲 as a user of a 1st version of a ID3 (company car), this was super annoying 😅
Haha!!! Fika is a swedish vore value. 🤣
I really think that the updated Id4/5 really is a game changer.
I have 3 things to complain about:
I Wish they had gone for real buttons or a more shaped layout on the steering wheel
They shouldn't have cheaped out on the charging and gone for 175kW on all big battery versions
Still a bit too much hard plastics
@@ItsOnlyElectric as a part Swedish guy, fika is also very important to me 😬
yeah, I get that. Those haptic buttons are really not the best. I better prefer real ones, good old clicks 😅
For the charging speed, strangely, the ID5 top up at 135kW max with the same battery/motor where the ID4 top up at 175kW. I don’t really understand
I wanted to go for the ID5 but no AWD and slower charging speed, so I will stick with the ID4 🤷🏻♀️
@SeeliLeck3r AWD versions of Id4 and 5 tops at 175.. RWD 135..I discovered that the hard way in the next video. (Didn't know when recording,this video, that's why I sau one thing and write another in the infographics).
So you still keep the tradition of Fika?
Yes, fika is also a core value to me. The barista at my work place is now a good friend 😂
Yeah, and apparently, ID 5 is not available in AWD, only the ID4. At least, on the market I’m in at the moment (Denmark). It’s very surprising that you have to deal with different charging speeds given the trim of the car. Makes no sense
So I think I will have to go for the ID4 if I want a AWD and a decent charging speed. But I do prefer the form factor of the ID5. It seems VW is not keen on developing the ID5 line up 🤷🏻♀️
@SeeliLeck3r 🤣
Id5 GTX available in Sweden
❤️❤️Love VW Group styling.
If you dont need more power, range or precondition (never supercharge) isn't a used 1St edition ID4 (2021 model) a very good bargain? Prices seem to be very low = value for money
Maybe. Not into the second hand market prices forv id4
I like the power upgrade! ...but that charging speed is poor for 2024. The Ioniq 5 / EV6 do 270kW+ since 2021...
Yes agree.
Jättebra du lägger några sekunder på ljudkvalitet. Tror inte jag är ensam om att verkligen bry mig om hur bra musik och röster låter även (eller speciellt) i bilen.
Tack! Tycker själv att det är viktigt med bra ljud så försöker att ta med det på en lagom nivå i mina tester .
Väntar som f n till det kan bli en recension på model 3 Ludicrous 😎
Det vore kul!!
Thanks for a great review. The price seems much higher than a Model Y with lower performance.
Thanks!
Starting price for entry level actually lower than Model y SR and Pro also starts a bit lower than LR Y.
Is this the ID 4 Match Pro?
Just PRO
One pedal driving is not efficient. VW's systems is much more sophisticated than that, it automatically regenerates before junctions and roundabouts, etc.
One pedal driving means the driver has to maintain precise control the position of the right foot.
I leave mine on D most of the time.
I switch to B on steep downhill roads and sometimes in town traffic so youre not constantly having to go from pedal to pedal.
Another disadvantage of one pedal driving is the strong braking is applied to the rear wheels only, not a good idea in slippery conditions.
OPD is very efficient if you know how to use it and a lot more convenient to drive when used to it. At least an option for it would be great.
@ItsOnlyElectric I see no advantage of opd and neither do the Volkswagen Engineers, it seems.
Will see in the future. Pretty sure they will bring to their cars sooner or later.
Yes, VW's intelligent regen is awesome!
is there any other car which is better than the new id4 for the same price?
Depending on what you are after. Alternatives with sane price and similar range:
- Emyaq 85
- Model Y
- Ioniq 5
@@ItsOnlyElectric I got mine in France for 50k (4motion 286 pro life max) with every options except heat pump. Enyaq 85x was my first choice but it was 17k more so without a doubt it's the best deal at least in France for a awd version. All the others in that list are more expensive. Delivery is for next week so i'm pretty pumped.
They finally realized that more power/torque = more efficient!
No reviewer has mentioned the impact on insurance costs of the extra power. In the UK, the extra power adds about 50% to insurance costs. Some people will find 0-60 of 8.5 enough but want the bigger battery.
Very good point!! Interesting to see the difference in Sweden
Omg realy? That sucks, 204 HP in my ID3 is enough for me.
That's what should have been a design mandate. You'd think will all the computer power of today's designs, these basics wouldn't be so easily overlooked. Any EV with a range below 300mi I ignore completely. If it doesn't have range, then its just a commuter. Fine if that's all you need your car to do. Maybe those folks have a second SUV they use for vacation.
@@krane15 What does that have to do with HP?
still sensitive touch buttons on the steering wheel !!! 😩
They're being updated. But the HVAC still isn't as functional as the switches used in Toyota or Hyundai.
It's non-issue. They work just fine.
@@ID.SuperFan-tq8xi that's why they abandonned it on new golf & tiguan... (and soon on ID3...)
We don't talk about OTA updates anymore: do you know anything?
OTAs working. Actually got one when testing the car. But what happens with really big updates, not sure.
Just had one as a courtesy car when my Arteon was being serviced. Nice car to drive but I couldn't live with that bare looking interior.
Coming from an Arteon I get your point. ID7 is more on par with it
Bra om du riktar kameran till vad du pratar om (hela tiden)
👍 något specifikt du tänkte på?
Tänkte på när du talade om skärmen och infotainmentsystemet. Annars gillade jag du recention
Fattar. Försökte få med så mycket som möjligt av det viktiga. Och hade egentligen en till fast vinkel. Men tyvärr går det inte alltid som planerat. 🙂
Very nice refresh! Glad VW listened to their customers/reviewers. I'd go with the engine noise of the Lamborghini Urus. Rattle some window panes! "Officer, that couldn't have been me. This is an EV."
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I dont understand why car makers still use piano black
That Is a very good question
This piano black doesnt scratch at least, I have one since Januari
@robertdevoogt9558 it seems to be fairly resistant to scratches. But gets very smudgy fast.
@@ItsOnlyElectric I've seen it scratched in other reviews, but either way its still gets nasty quick once touched.
still lagging lots of things when compare to ID7. Don't know why they weren't built on same platform.
ID7 on MEB+ and ID4 on MEB. an interior rewamp would have been great
Ohh i thought the new ID.4 had the same driver display as the ID.7a?
Evertying about the new ID.4 says its the best EV out there.
Same 5" size as in the id7 but with the "old" layout.
The only take on this car is the battery …. If they change it to lfp or manage to get the new solid state battery, i will buy the car right away.
Too little, too late, for too much. Really worried for WV future.
Ok, do not enough of a change to grow/keep their market share?
Would you take this over the revised Model 3 even without Tesla Supercharger advantage?@@ItsOnlyElectric
@@ItsOnlyElectric Would you consider this against it's Chinese, Korean, or Tesla competitors models in the same price range.? if I was tied to VAG, the Skoda Enyag does it so much better.
@carlturner4344 agree on the Emyaq..that's the best MEB alternative in this segment.
Tough question, cars like Model Y, Nio EL6 and Xpeng G6 are really good alternatives. Hard to pick one. Model Y may still be most value for money together with the upcoming Xpeng G6..
@@carlturner4344 ID 4 was the most sold none Tesla, none chinese EVs last year.
This is NOW a car it is supposed to be in the first place and I think they are late with that update. In fact, it feels like for that specific price range they are better options now. KIA had some price cuts same as Hyundai. Tesla now has a new Y battery/motor combo available to make it more accessible. Shame :/
Agree.
Why reviewers don’t talk about lead time?
Thinking of delivery time?
So it’s just catching up to Tesla and the Model Y from 2022. Good job VW!
It has always been better than Tesla since day one in build quality, ride quality, cabin noise, practicality (turning radius).
The two things I hate about EVs not counting range anxiety. First, the trend towards sunroofs that don't open. Maybe its because of weight. But I buy a sunroof to open for ventilation, not something to see through. The fact that its glass is a product of the market. Not something I'd ever ask to have.
Second, they don't' have have spare tires. That's a clear and present design flaw and until they get past these basics, I have no interest in buying an EV anytime soon.
@4:50 You should always be able to store the cargo cover conveniently in the car. Any car that can't do this simple task if of poor design and should be avoided.
@6:25 Sorry, but the back seat is too small for someone of your height. Your knees are touching the back of the seat, and the thigh cushion is too short to support your legs. There's nothing decent about the rear seat for someone over 6". I'm just as tall and I assure you I wouldn't want to be back there for more than a short jaunt around town. A day trip is out of the question.
@26:00 The Germans don't believe in one-peddle driving. Just like they have not adapted the rear view mirror camera. Somebody sits in the middle seat and the rear-view mirror becomes useless. Not that it was great to begin with.
@30:30 "More than sufficient power?" No VW has ever had that.
Thanks for taking time to comment and leaving you feedback and sharing thoughts.
The two things you describe (sunroof and spare) isn't that the same for all new cars regardless of type?
In cold countries like Sweden panoramic roofs really makes sense since it's lights up the cabin and brings more head room. 9 months out if 12 you vant open it anyway due to rain and cold weather. 😕
VW is stubborn like Nokia just to put some buttons on the starting wheel 😂
They appear to be, and they will lose sales because of it. There's just too much competition to settle for all these compromises. They are in the process of updating he steering wheel though.
A battery.
It has an interior of a car that's 15-20k less if it was an ICE car. Also the mapping of the acceleration is still terrible. A lot of hesitation and a slow ramp up of power. This still isn't an attractive buy.
In sport mode the acceleration mapping felt good..on ECO a whole nother story.
The interior could be premium like on the ID7.
@@ItsOnlyElectric I tested in sport mode. They need to sharpen this car up. And yah I agree, the interior would be much better if it was like the ID7
Decent family car. My only problem with it is how boring it is, both in design and driving - you can get more exciting family cars for almost the same price imo. And all that piano plastic trim? No thank you.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Any choice of car instead?
@@ItsOnlyElectric Well I have the Nio EL6. I love it. Also I would buy the ModY or Enyaq or Ioniq5 over the id4. They all are just more interesting to me. But I have never been a VW-guy.
Buyers are a lot smart than they used to be. We know that people black will look terrible the moment you touch it. A year in its going to look horrible when it gets dull with all the scratches.
Car without face,soul,name and history. ID? Identification? 🤣
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According to Volkswagen, ID. stands for "intelligent design, identity and visionary technologies".
@@ItsOnlyElectric Klaus Zycora was fired from VW. He designed this car, and when you look at the side, it looks 90% like a Renault Kadjar 😄
Yes, there are similarities with the kadjar but not that much according to me. Id4 a lot more powerful and soorty design compared to the more round and feminine shapes on the kadjar. But get your point
Still the interior... looks like a van. Decent amount of space for your knees? these are almost touching the front seat. For the same amount of money you can buy a Chinese EV, well better than the I.D4. The outside looks nice the interior.... probably one of the worse out there
Yes but still one of the best European alternatives available. Interior way to plastic
@@ItsOnlyElectricvery Volkswagen
Great review, but still mediocre car
Thank you!
What's the most disappointing parts?
It s the best car for its value.
So they took years to rel ase a car that doe the basics of most electric cars. 🤦🏾 VW. Probably will take 5 years to sort out their charging infrastructure too. Electrify america is garbage.
Still a mediocre car and a long way behind a Tesla Model Y in many ways. The Regen braking on Tesla's is amazing, all EV's should have the same.
Same regen breaking in ID4 and you get the possibility to coast instead regen when releasing accelerater pedal. Very strange how Tesla Fans praising Disadvantages as Advantages
@Fry3199 I want to coast when I choose to. Otherwise OPD all the time. This isn't about Tesla. It's about EVs in general. Other brands like BMW does it too.
Day 1 Tesla y is arguably a better car. But 5 years or 50,000 miles, the Tesla starts breaking down and the VW is still a solid vehicle.
This is a real car with decent build quality. Please don't compare it to a Tesla FFS!