Backcountry Ski Setup // A Top Shelf Lightweight Ski Setup
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- Опубліковано 10 гру 2020
- One of the most bragged about setups Christof has ever assembled. The Skitrab Magico with Skitrab Titan bindings, Skitrab skins, and Scarpa LT boots. This is a setup for someone who wants the best lightweight backcountry setup and won't settle for anything else.
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Great set up.
I have Trab Skimo skis, amazed that they haven’t fallen apart after a couple of seasons. I am an absolute believer in their construction technique. It seems a no brainier that joining the top and bottom wit h a fibre wrap has to be better than relying on a bit of plastic sidewall.
Have been running those Ski Trab skins on my G3 Findr 86's for a few years now and I love em!
Cool👍So that’s what you were talking about on Mt Baker! End of video ‘take aways’
Good stuff. More gear vids please!
I have a pair of SkiTrab XC skis. They make amazing products and a really fast ski that skied me to a wave one finish of the American Birkiebeiner. (North Americas Largest XC ski race)
Would love to see you tour the sierra high route in all your new light weight gear.....any plans
Love all your adventures you wives must be the best and most understanding. You lucky guys
This will definitely be my setup for anything long-suffering. I'm sure we'll come up with something miserable to do. And yes, we all hit our jackpots when it comes to spouses.
Hi Christof, stopped by Skimo while i was in town to check out the Magicos, couldn't resist (paired with Plum R170). My first impression was that the obviously climb very well, but couldn't really test them downhill as everything froze on Tuesday. was wondering if you got to use the Magicos properly and what your impressions were?
If you have boots with the right fittings you can just step in to the Ski Trab bindings. I think La Sportiva boots have it. I think those boots might have the right fittings as well
You are correct! Some sportiva boots have the fittings, but unfortunately La Sportiva boots don’t play well with my feet. The F1 LTs have the master step inserts which aid in stepping into regular tech bindings, but isn’t quite the design that you need to step into the ski trabs.
@@cnuila aaah, gotcha. It seems like a nice feature, but not widely adopted by boot makers
How have you been liking the Titan bindings this year? Any issues stepping in on steep/exposed runs? Any places you suggest looking for deals on them or do you have to cough up retail price for the best?
Getting into the binding. Do you reach down and press the lever by hand, or use a ski pole?
I guess this system gives more control, so you don’t get the binding snapping down into the plastic just to the side of the metal pit.
Can I get one of you to explain why I need all of that to my wife?
maybe your wife has something she needs all of, too? then she knows.
you probably dont give a shit but if you are bored like me atm you can stream all of the new movies on instaflixxer. Have been binge watching with my brother for the last few months xD
@Ariel Riley yup, I've been using instaflixxer for months myself =)
I see some Zero G 95s on the wall. How did you like those? Only about 100g per ski heavier than the Magicos.
Christof, what made you want to switch from your Fischer boots? (not the a big excuse is needed for new gear). It seems like the whole crew had the Fischer boots last year and now have switched to the Scarpas.
Coming from an alpine racing and ski instruction background, the Fischer Travers was the first "lightweight" boot that let me ski like I want to ski even in the backcountry, meaning putting a ski on edge and driving forward. So in that regard I love it and think it was a huge breakthrough in touring boots. There were plenty of light boots that "could" be skied hard or drive bigger skis, but you ended up having to wiggle like a noodly skimo racer or just make compromises in your technique. The fit was a love/hate for me. I have a wider forefoot with high volume instep and the travers accommodated that well, but I have a narrow heel and I struggled with heel lockdown in the Fischer constantly. Liner mods, shims, low volume footbeds, it just seemed like there wasn't enough "shape" molded into the boot for me and I would get massive heel lift or it would just swim back there. I skied the F1 which is also enough boot to ski well, and the shape is wide up front but narrow in the heel, but it's definitely a step higher on the weight scale. I thought "man, if they could make the F1 in a weight as light or lighter than the Travers, that would be my dream boot." My prayers were answered and the F1 LT is it. The bonus is I think it skis a little better than the Travers too. A little.
Now, iIf you ski a Travers and it fits great I DO NOT recommend shelling out dough for a F1 LT just to get something new (although as a gear junkie I will not fault you for that either, lol), but if it's time to upgrade, looking for a little more performance/ better fit, etc. then the F1 LT has my highest recommendation. It's the best 1000-1150gm boot I've ever skied.
OK, cool, but... How do they ski?
Kinda amateur question here, but what ski length and width size do you guys use on these tours?
We’re in the lightweight ski touring camp but not the Lycra-clad weight weenie camp so our lightest setups like this one are usually 85mm-ish waisted skis in 167-171cm length, our everyday setups are mid- 90 to 100mm waists in 173-178cm, and our “heavy” or “powder” setups are 106-112mm waist and 177-183cm lengths. I’m 5’10.5” and 170 lbs.
Christof gonna start beating Matt and Danny up the hill? Kings peak round two?
Ugh, that’s still a thing of nightmares, 😂
Have dynafit blacklight 88s with dynafit race bindings: under 5pounds. Why not just go with the original tried and true desing i say.
After skiing both, I equate the Blacklights to a Mazda Miata: a great performing light sports car. The Magico.2 however, is a Ferrari. More xpensive (because of higher end materials and more complicated construction), and noticeably higher performing. Also crazy light. Why try new things? Because it’s fun!!!
@@cnuila not quite a like for like comparisent tho. You get a bit more of an all around ski with the same weight with the bl88s. I mostly ski powder, wouldent consider skiing anything smaller. Would be great to have a full rockered, 105 under foot, long turn radius powder board thar weighed in at under 1kg.
@@cypriano8763 very true. And that wasn’t a knock on the Blackight. A better comparison would have been to a BMW M3 (fittingly German like Dynafit as well;) I was actually going back and forth between the Blacklight and the Magico but since for me the Magico will be solely a specialty mission specific ski, was 100g lighter, and I have other every day rippers, I decided to give them a try. We’ll see if the earn a permanent position in the quiver!
They sure are nice on big days. Makes those efforts more repeatable
cost for pair with bindings?
Where do these guys get all the cash for this haha
Dynafit tl8s are lighter and 120 flex! Dude these europeans have had it figured out for years
I owned and skied the TLT8 Carbonio last year. Great boots, but they are neither lighter nor stiffer than the F1 LT.
@@cnuila is see that.damn good. Not sure about the thin liner of the tlt8s . Kind of chincy way to loose weight
@@cypriano8763 you’re absolutely right. It was chintzy and was painful with the carbon cuff. I swapped it out for the Palau Tour Lite Pro EVO, which I thought was the perfect match. The liner in the TLT8 Expedition is overkill in my opinion, and places the weight waaay higher than what a light touring boot should be. Also, the weights Dynafit posts on its website are actually WITHOUT footbeds. A little misleading. My boots in a 26.5 weighed closer to 1050 g out of the box and that’s with the minimal stock liner.
@@cnuila same, same size.maybe i should get those liners
@@cypriano8763 I highly recommend them. Minimal weight penalty and huge performance and comfort gain. After a few tours I think they walk just as well. I tried the Palau Tour Lite Pro, but they seemed too similar to the stock. The Tour Lite Pro EVO adds just the right amount of material around the cuff.
5.3lb = 2.4kg
Assuming you don’t mean 5lb 3oz.
Sort of weird how you measure ski length in cm, but weight in old money.
$450 without the boots right?
450.00 for the skis with the sweet Canadian to US exchange rate.
Any chance you could give a few more tips on finding that type of deal/coupon? Spring is not far away. At $450, you are so right...buy them, then explain later.
Dude do you print money are what? You like be buying gear every weak and than you say i got a great deal.
Ha! I know it’s ridiculous. I don’t hang on to gear very long as I’m always wanting to try new stuff so the quiver is a constant churn. This fall I sold four ski setups and bought three, lol. Not exactly a zero sum equation but overall not quite the outrageous expenditure.