Christof, good on ya for passing these boards, boots, et al on to your guide. From casual observation of the Artisana video, that will be a significant weight drop he'll relish with each step upward.
So good to have Cristoff back. Thanks for the tech review. Leaving your gear for the guide was a class act move. Danny probably wouldn't have done that. (Danny always seems to lay a dig in on you so I'm sticking up for ya.)
@@cnuila I know you have climbed Pyramid Peak but have you looked into the Pyramid to Snowmass traverse here in Aspen. Plus…we have the breakfast you love.
I'm only a hobbyist ski/board builder, but from my experience wood density can vary widely from batch to batch, and the amount of resin bleed when the ski is being pressed can also vary. The difference of 100g could even be that the core wasn't as dry as the core in their measured skis. Since each pair is mostly hand-assembled I think you have to assume they'll be advertising the best weight they've found in their pre-production or first batch.
Sure there is a technical reason why manufacturers can't guarantee exact weight to the gramm... but then they should just advertise the average of what can be expected in production. Just doesn't feel right if you can almost be sure that the skis you will actually hold in your hands are going to be 100g-ish (per ski) heavier than what they were claimed to be. Sadly, apart from OGSO Mountain Essentials i don't know of any manufacturer doing it like that.
Yeah I also understand how there can be variations. I'd just love for once to be surprised with a lighter ski, lol. Underpromise and overdeliver, Mediocre style!😜
as a gear head I love this content and need more! if you didn't just get pack from that epic south america trip, I would for sure tease Danny about those rusty edges :)
Twice in a week! Yay! I wish I could ski. Love watching your videos and hearing your thoughts on products. Thank you!! What an amazing thing to gift your guide!!
Hey, so I have a request for a review/demo video if you are accepting those: Can you guys cover the various backpacks you use/have used? Im a weirdo about backpacks. You guys have a bunch and you both seem to be thoughtful enough that you would have some strong opinions about your bags. Cheers!
Sat March 30 11:00 am est I have enjoyed your videos appreciate the simple but detailed information I am curious about your comments about the Hagan Core 84 I am 70 been Tele skiing since 85 75 mm boots & binding Now Fairly light set up Voile Switchback 178 5’8 178 athletic person still the most I can to ski groomers & varied conditions Just curious to get your input if you would About the Core 84 vs Core 89 Have a good day Mark v CNY
I would say if this is your “light” or “mountaineering” setup then go with the 84. If this is your “ready for anything we encounter in this mission” ski, go for the 89.
Alp Tracks are noticeably lighter and stiffer, and require a bit more skill to ski well, but rewards a strong skier with amazing performance at such a low weight. I feel like the Alp Tracks are some of the pinnacle examples of best skiing skis AT THEIR WEIGHT, which is amazing. Sometimes though, either because of ability or application, going the absolute lightest isn't the rightest.
Hagans are quite popular in Europe, built for the conditions you find here. Their freeride powder ski is 99mm I think, which is a joke for Utah conditions :)
Any chance of a review on the Scarpa F1 XT, that I see Danny is rocking? Did any of you consider the Tecnica zero g peak? From what I’ve read it is the best thing out there - in that particular weight/performance segment...
Great review that left me chuckling with the ending. Do you think it is different enough from the Escaper Nano 97 to warrant having both in a quiver? Aside from your quiver reveal, it’s been hard to find any feedback on the Nano so far.
Yeah definitely different. The escaper is much lighter for its width. Essentially it weighs the same as the core 89 but is 10mm wider and 8cm longer. It is a great all-rounder touring ski for a mostly soft snow area like Utah. The escaper is essentially the same ski as the Dynastar M-Tour 99 so anything you read/hear about that ski applies to the escaper. I had both and they are identical. (Same parent company same materials, same weight, I concluded they are the same ski)
I own the Escaper 87 Nano and it is fantastic. It tracks very well on piste in my experience. I know that because we didn't have enough snow for a lot of off-piste routes as of yet 😢. It's light so it is manoeuvrable and quick when climbing. I got the Hagan Pure 10 bindings (the same as the atk crest 10 afaik) on there, which are excellent as well. Just looking forward to removing the brake, which i don't like. In summary I have to say I'm positively surprised by the skiing performance for the weight. Also there were/are deals all over Europe for the ski or ski/skin combo.
I think more similar than different, just depends what width you need for the skiing/snow conditions you’re hoping to use it for. I imagine they feel pretty similar just a little more floatation and versatility in the 89.
Christof, good on ya for passing these boards, boots, et al on to your guide. From casual observation of the Artisana video, that will be a significant weight drop he'll relish with each step upward.
I couldn't imagine doing those mountains at that elevation with a setup that heavy. Andres was an animal for sure.
@@cnuila Andres is a beast! Saw him (rocking the Hagans) on Cayambe this week.
So good to have Cristoff back. Thanks for the tech review. Leaving your gear for the guide was a class act move. Danny probably wouldn't have done that. (Danny always seems to lay a dig in on you so I'm sticking up for ya.)
Ha! Thanks!
@@cnuila I know you have climbed Pyramid Peak but have you looked into the Pyramid to Snowmass traverse here in Aspen. Plus…we have the breakfast you love.
I'm only a hobbyist ski/board builder, but from my experience wood density can vary widely from batch to batch, and the amount of resin bleed when the ski is being pressed can also vary. The difference of 100g could even be that the core wasn't as dry as the core in their measured skis. Since each pair is mostly hand-assembled I think you have to assume they'll be advertising the best weight they've found in their pre-production or first batch.
Sure there is a technical reason why manufacturers can't guarantee exact weight to the gramm... but then they should just advertise the average of what can be expected in production.
Just doesn't feel right if you can almost be sure that the skis you will actually hold in your hands are going to be 100g-ish (per ski) heavier than what they were claimed to be.
Sadly, apart from OGSO Mountain Essentials i don't know of any manufacturer doing it like that.
Yeah I also understand how there can be variations. I'd just love for once to be surprised with a lighter ski, lol. Underpromise and overdeliver, Mediocre style!😜
as a gear head I love this content and need more! if you didn't just get pack from that epic south america trip, I would for sure tease Danny about those rusty edges :)
They were so bad🤣
Twice in a week! Yay! I wish I could ski. Love watching your videos and hearing your thoughts on products. Thank you!! What an amazing thing to gift your guide!!
That crevasse jump at 4:40 was smooooth!
Nice review Christof. It was great to see you in action again in the Ecuador video!
Thanks!
Wow the hands on Christof! Enough to make any woman happy!
You gave him a great deal. That’s cool man
you’re a good fella, great review. Great video once again.
Great review, hoping to see some land cruiser cameos in future videos. :)
Planning on it!
Would love to hear how you both came to choose the 170 length. Great video.
Hey, so I have a request for a review/demo video if you are accepting those: Can you guys cover the various backpacks you use/have used? Im a weirdo about backpacks. You guys have a bunch and you both seem to be thoughtful enough that you would have some strong opinions about your bags. Cheers!
Sat March 30 11:00 am est
I have enjoyed your videos appreciate the simple but detailed information
I am curious about your comments about the Hagan Core 84
I am 70 been Tele skiing since 85
75 mm boots & binding
Now Fairly light set up
Voile Switchback
178
5’8 178 athletic person still the most I can to ski groomers & varied conditions
Just curious to get your input if you would
About the Core 84 vs Core 89
Have a good day
Mark v CNY
I would say if this is your “light” or “mountaineering” setup then go with the 84. If this is your “ready for anything we encounter in this mission” ski, go for the 89.
A glowing Christof review? Got it, so they'll be gone by March 👍
Thanks for sharing, great content as always. How do they compare to Movement Alp Tracks?
Alp Tracks are noticeably lighter and stiffer, and require a bit more skill to ski well, but rewards a strong skier with amazing performance at such a low weight. I feel like the Alp Tracks are some of the pinnacle examples of best skiing skis AT THEIR WEIGHT, which is amazing. Sometimes though, either because of ability or application, going the absolute lightest isn't the rightest.
Hagans are quite popular in Europe, built for the conditions you find here. Their freeride powder ski is 99mm I think, which is a joke for Utah conditions :)
@christoff when are we going to see some overland fotty?
Any chance of a review on the Scarpa F1 XT, that I see Danny is rocking? Did any of you consider the Tecnica zero g peak? From what I’ve read it is the best thing out there - in that particular weight/performance segment...
Great review that left me chuckling with the ending. Do you think it is different enough from the Escaper Nano 97 to warrant having both in a quiver? Aside from your quiver reveal, it’s been hard to find any feedback on the Nano so far.
Yeah definitely different. The escaper is much lighter for its width. Essentially it weighs the same as the core 89 but is 10mm wider and 8cm longer. It is a great all-rounder touring ski for a mostly soft snow area like Utah. The escaper is essentially the same ski as the Dynastar M-Tour 99 so anything you read/hear about that ski applies to the escaper. I had both and they are identical. (Same parent company same materials, same weight, I concluded they are the same ski)
I own the Escaper 87 Nano and it is fantastic. It tracks very well on piste in my experience. I know that because we didn't have enough snow for a lot of off-piste routes as of yet 😢.
It's light so it is manoeuvrable and quick when climbing. I got the Hagan Pure 10 bindings (the same as the atk crest 10 afaik) on there, which are excellent as well. Just looking forward to removing the brake, which i don't like. In summary I have to say I'm positively surprised by the skiing performance for the weight. Also there were/are deals all over Europe for the ski or ski/skin combo.
I have been using the Dynafit Blacklight 88 for my volcano/spring objective in the PNW with pretty good results. How do you think the Hagan compares?
what about the core 84, are they very similar or quite different?
I think more similar than different, just depends what width you need for the skiing/snow conditions you’re hoping to use it for. I imagine they feel pretty similar just a little more floatation and versatility in the 89.
Black Crows Navis or Camox Freebird. Both down hill oriented.
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This was too good!! #1 spot to increase your channel's engagement 'promosm'!