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Harvesting 2023 Oats with My John Deere 4400 Combine
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2023
- In this video you'll get a look at how I harvest oats with my John Deere 4400 combine, which is over 50 years old and still going strong.
Thanks for the ride along Charlie!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching and coming along with me. Glad you enjoyed it.
Hope you're having a good day we're getting heavy rain here in Milton Pennsylvania expect you be getting some too soon. I should buy some oats off you for cover crop😊
All my oats were planted from certified seed this spring. Still have about 100-120 bushels not sold.
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The old 4400 getting the job done. The last several years I've just mowed the oats shortly after it heads out and round bale it.
I have a good market for both the oats and straw, which is why I do it the way I do. My friend Cory buys most of my oats and a local hardware store buys all the straw. Thanks for stopping by, Pete!
looks like you got a nice clean sample there
Yes, the old 4400 does a nice job of cleaning. It does an especially good job on corn - very clean sample. The oats and beans are OK. Thanks for your kind words and for watching.
Excellent video! Not good on the weather guessers missing the rain forecast... i bale up the crap and sell it anyway, lower price and full disclosure - the goat people are good to buy it, I get the thatch off the field and a little diesel money. I thought when the hay got rinsed, once dried, you were going to draw out the round baler... Combine does a nice job - long live the small farm...👍
Thanks for your kind words. That second cut hay got so wet and took so long to dry out that no one wanted it, not even for cattle. The old 4400 combine still does a nice job for being 51 or 52 years old. And yes, I still believe whole-heartedly in the small farmers like us! 👍👍👍👍💪💪💪💪💪💪
Well cousin I understand cutting high Be better especially if you’re not going to use the straw . Smart move . Enjoyed the ride! Your 4400 sounds the same in the cab as cousin SBF
The 4400 and 3300 are very similar machines, except that the 4400 is bigger. They are good old machines. Looking forward to seeing yours and SBF's harvesting corn and beans this fall. Always something I enjoy seeing.
Good to see you harvesting your oats. Thanks for the ride.
Glad you came along and enjoyed it. I definitely enjoy harvesting.
Love the 4400! It moves right along through standing oats. Your system seems to work great and it looks like a pretty good yield this year. I used to straight cut but my header was worn out and I found a swather and pickup header. Started my 4400 today in anticipation of getting into the barley first, then oats.
Over 50 years old, and the 4400 is still going strong!
Always great to see small farms still working! In my younger years we had a small farm with wheat, oats and barley so we could make out hog feed. Thanks for sharing.
Well, I know I'm just a little guy in the overall scheme of the farm world, but I love what I do and am proud to do it. My wife asks me when I'm gonna quit farming, and I tell her "when I absolutely can't do it any more". Thanks for stopping by, Mark.
I must have forgotten to leave a comment on this. Looks like you had a pretty good oats crop. I haven't combined oats for a few years. It's been too dry for it to make grain.
Yes, I was pretty pleased with the way the oats turned out this year. Other than the dry spell from mid-may till mid-june, we've gotten lots of rain. (Maybe too much).
Man yeah Mr Charlie!!! You know this one is close to my heart!! I wish so much I had been able to get in my little oat oarch when they were good, but we are going to make dust soon one way or another 😉😁 That setup you have with Cory is perfect for you both!! Im on the fence about to cut low or high. I guess it will depend on thr crop itself when that time comes! Love that 4400 Mr Charlie!! I hate that about your hay though. You know that just happened to me as well. We are like you here, everyone wants straw instead of hay for lawn stuff etc. I was hoping to have salvaged more of my wet cut for that but didn't pan out. Always enjoy everything you have going on sir, and thank you for bringing us along!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍😁😁🌾🌾🌾
That 4400 sounds like a dsl machine. That would be a great small farm unit. Thanks for the video Charlie.
Yes, it has the John Deere 329 in it. It was made during one of the first 2 years of production, as the serial number is just over 5000. It was originally sold in the state of Indiana (found an old faded dealer sticker) and had a gas engine. The owner previous to me replaced the gas engine with the 329 diesel. It's really a good running machines for its age. Thanks for stopping by, Dan.
Great to see oats harvest 2023 is in the books at this time Charlie, looking forward to the beans and corn
Thanks jan! it certainly feels good to have them done and off the field.
Love seeing your combine out getting it done
Thanks Adam. it's a good old machine and still works well for its age. I definitely love running it, especially in corn. Thanks for being here, as always my friend.
The old 4400 is doing a good job Charlie, I honestly cant remember the last time I cut oats but I did it with an AC 60 pull type combine I had back then. When I hauled them in I got a premium price cause they were so clean. Around here if someone plants oats they cut them for hay to sell. Keep up the good work Charlie ! Bandit
I got the 4400 in 2016, Before that, I was cutting my oats with an AC 66 pull type. Just sold that machine to my mechanic friend Joe last year. The oats came out so clean that my horse customers used to think I had the oats cleaned before they bought it. Nothing cleaned oats like those old AC pull types. I seed clover and timothy under the oats, so basically using it for a nurse crop. But I have a good market for both the oats and the straw, so it's a win for me. Now the 4400 can rest up until time to harvest corn and beans.
@@pagrainfarmer We really dont have any elevators left around here, Closest place is 25 miles away if you got a small amount of grain to sell there ok but there $ .10 to $ .15 a bu below market price so I dont take anything there. 500 to 1000 bu its about 50 miles to haul into one of the bigger elevators down on the river or the next closest is 50 miles to one of the others that buy grain. So there is no market for much of anything other than corn soybeans or wheat so oats you got to find someone that wants them locally to sell them to. But the old pull type combine like the AC,s man they did such a good job of cleaning that nothing else could compare to them. We cut lots of clover oats and wheat and soybeans with the old 60's back then. Oh the good old days ! LOL But I got to say it was a lot more fun back then and a hole lot less complicated. I'm thinking this week I might fire up the 4400 and let it run awhile and check things out on it so there is no surprises come fall. Bandit
@@banditfarmer1900 I'm lucky I have a market for the oats - I raise the oats and my friend Cory used them for his beef cattle. A local hardware store buys the straw - they have people coming in every day looking for it. It amazes me that contractors will come to the hardware store and pay $8 per bale or more and buy 50 or 100 bales for a job, rather than find a farmer who raises it and pay less. But really, not many people make small square bales of straw around here any more the way I do, so I guess the hardware store is one of their only options. I just know it works for me. I have a little work to do on 2 of the heads for my 4400. Yesterday I did some things to my new 770 - video coming soon, now that I got it back from my mechanic friend Joe.
@@pagrainfarmer Our local hardware store is the same way, They keep about a 100 bales of straw on hand. They buy it from a local guy who stores it till they need it and he delivers it to them. Thats my problem I cant store it, When I cut the wheat the straw has to be baled and gotten off the field so I can plant beans in it. Last time I sold the straw to Jacob and he baled it and I got $1 a bale for it and didnt have to touch it ! LOL Not having a barn to store hay or straw in makes it had for me to do anything baling wise. I'm about to the point where I might just sell all the hay equipment and be done with it, Besides I'm not getting any younger and I cant do what I used to do. I had my 770 out the other day and I just cant believe how good it runs, Dads 1550 gas has never run as smooth as the 770 does but the 770 does have its own purr ! If I have time I might get the new 520 Oliver baler out and go threw it and maybe bale with it on the 770, That would be fun to see out in the field again. I got 2 new tires mounted for it now so I might just have to put it out and see what happens. Bandit
So inspired by old equipment still being used..goes to show mfg actually cared about quality then. What's up with your reels? Wrapped apparently.
I use old equipment and will continue. Just a hobby for me but I learned late in life I'm actually a farmer. Truly love it. Something about working with the earth and plants. Must be respected tho.
The wooden bats have plastic corrigated pipe on them to keep grains like oats from wrapping up on them.
Looks good! Grandpa always hired the combining done, he hated working on them. Usually a neighbor did our oats for us and we shared 1/3rd of the crop with him in exchange. We would only grow 3 to 5 acres of oats a year as a nurse crop for alfalfa. We added what we had of the oats to corn in the hammer mill to make our grain for feeding our steers.
I use the oats as a nurse crop for clover and timothy. When we were a dairy farm and when I had beef cattle, I ground the oats with corn to make feed, like you did. When I was young, we had a hammermill on the barn's upper floor. The hammermill was run by a belt which was powered by the belt pulley on our Oliver 77. Later we got a grinder/mixer. Thanks for stopping by, Bill.
@pagrainfarmer our hammer mill, was PTO driven. We filled barrels and buckets. It sat just outside the front doors of the hay mow. The barn was a bank barn. it's gone now. Our last batch of steers was 2015 or 2016. I really miss all the time I had with Grandpa on the farm. We made a good team because we could work together or work separately. My goal is to get my own land ASAP and start reliving those days with my kids. I miss the cattle and having a sense of purpose that farming gave me. We had a big 2-acre garden, chickens, and cattle. We wanted to raise feeder pigs but ran out of time before Parkinsons took away Grandpa's ability to handle the chores and farming.
Found a very good Oliver Standard 88 for you Charlie. $2000. The price is sure right. If your interested in another Oliver, you can let me know in the comments. Enjoyed another of your videos, again. Keep your nose to the grindstone!! Iowa Soybean Farmer
Thanks for the tip on the 88, but I already bought the Oliver 770 this summer. My wife doesn't complain about me buying tractors, but I don't want to press my luck. Thanks for letting me know, but I think I better pass for now. If something like that is available next year, then it could be a possibility. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@pagrainfarmer Hey, that’s fine. I’m NOT trying to sell a tractor, like yourself, I just like talking tractors. I saw the 88, and immediatly thought of you. I look forward to your videos, keep up the good work. The equipment you farm with, is equivalent to what I used to farm with. I had a 6600, so I always enjoy riding with you in your 4400. It’s just like being back in the saddle! Keep the videos coming, they are interesting. Take care, and we all look for a safe harvest. Dwight
I know what you mean - I didn't take it that you were trying to sell me anything. You were letting me know of an opportunity and I appreciate it. Next time, the timing might just be right! 👍👍👍👍👍
I was wondering when we were going to see a video of you calm binding your oats I think I agree with you running the head up and less material going through the machine material through the machine that I should make it last longer. If you had a really big operation, makes sense than to cut it low less tractor hours in the field I guess but my question would be just because you got a little bit of rain on hey why can’t you sell that to your customers when they just dry out and be the same
I agree with you on the cutting height for oats. I don't want to run all that material though the 4400 because it's old. In terms of the rain on the hay - my challenge is that my market is people/stables with horses. Horse people are generally pretty picky about their horse hay - it has to be high quality or they don't want it. Once the hay gets wet and then dries out, it doesn't have the same color and smell and people can tell it was wet. It lowers the quality. It's ok for cattle, but horse people don't want it after it has gotten wet, unless they're desperate for hay. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Thanks for the ride!
Very nice machine for its age!
Will you use the cutditioner to mow the stubble?
Do you have a mulch hay market down there? We used to get decent money for it Road cruise used when they had to fix peoples lawns companies that were burying cable used it.
I used to have a market for mulch hay, when they were drilling a lot of natural gas wells and putting in pipelines, but that kind of dried up about 10-15 years ago. Straw is what sells here. I have a hardware store that buys all mine. They say people come in almost every day looking for it, for dog boxes, or sometimes contractors come in when their putting in/repairing lawns. Thanks for watching, Andy!
Ive seen several headers with 3" round tubing around the bats, like this. Why is that? Does it protect the wood, or help feeding?
The tubing simply help keep the oats plant stems from wrapping on the bats. Without those tubes, those stems would wrap on the bats like crazy. Works pretty good. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Best thing Deere could do is go back to yellow painted reels
Agree! Thanks forcwatching and commenting.
Im a total amateur. So you can bale the oat straw? There's a market for that? I suppose id need a rake for baling.
Yes. I cut the oats off high, so as not to run all the straw through the combine. Then I mow the oats stubble with one of my hay mowers. You need a rake if you do it that way. If you don't have a spreader on the back of your combine, and you cut your oats low enough, you could probably get away without a rake. Small square bales like I make definitely have a market. Not may people around here make them anymore, but lots of people want them. I actually have a local "mom and pop" hardware store that buys all of mine. People come in to get straw for planting grass, for dog boxes, and even contractors come in and get it for their jobs.
Charlie do you have a market for the oats that you harvest?
Yes I do. Cory buys most of my oats for his beef cattle, which leaves me just about 1 gravity wagon full left over, which I can sell to other local people with horses. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Our Second Year we had 15 acres get rained on to the point that it was Cow Hay........ We gave it to a Friend that had cows and he paid us to haul it to his farm........$10.00 a bale for 50 rounds... 2loads
@@farmingforfunandprofit940 The second cut hay I was baling go so wet for so long that not even cattle guys wanted it. Definitely not for horses.
When it comes to farming the decisions you make based off the weather is usually based on misinformation. 🤣🤣
Regardless I haven't made a right decision in 5 years.
For the same time span, I have never seen the various weather services disagree so much as this summer. It has been crazy and you sure can't count on the forecast, especially the long range one. Might as well flip a coin. Thanks for stopping by.
I hope you get to do something in September 2023
Thanks, Ray!