@@sk_hermit1809 ORT: Before Gilgamesh was ever a thing, I have always existed. His power to rewrite the rules was derived from mine, and as such, will never compare to mine. Not now, not ever.
That red text from Trismegistus II is enough to spook anybody no matter how many times I see it. The fact that it said "ORT is summoning itself as a Grand Foreigner" made all of Chaldea say WTF, especially since they had already hit their limit...
Chaldea : But... but you have to do important deeds to be a servant ORT : Nah, I will just create my own throne of heroes outside space-time. My "impotant deed" will be me going supernova on your asses 30 seconds from now.
ORT is easily one of the coolest Eldritch horrors ever put in fiction. The fact it is so powerful in a universe known for it's overpowered characters and it regularly breaks pre established rules with seemingly no effort makes it equal parts awesome and equal parts *horrifying* .
And this is at maybe 1% of its potential power. Think about it: Chaldea was getting owned by an ORT that was so heavily nerfed by Camazotz it wasn't even funny. A true testament to the power of the Ultimate One of the Oort Cloud, if I dare say so myself.
I've heard that Nasuverse rule book is burned in 2017 (by the Goetia's incineraion of mankind presumably). Tsukihime remake and FGO arc 2 are supposed to be the follow up of those events, like a rebrand or a soft reboot.
All Ultimate ones of the planet are like that they have their own rule and own logic and own reality its not that they broke the rules because they ARE THE RULES
@@Ultimate0Phantasm Ort is no longer an Ultimate One after the rebrand. Have you read LB7? It is... a thing came out from the Big Bang which is even older than the universe. It spent its own life to consume other planet in order to recreate the thing it once was (whatever exist before the Big Bang). As a result of that, it can modify to mimic other things like how it ate servants or how it summoned itself as Grand Foreigner by mimicking other's power. Before the reboot, it is an Ultimate One written in Notes, now... it is something else.
@@khangnguyenthaiduy9129 That is lame.... although gives ORT more hype. Like as a living terminal of a celestial body, it should be able to do what Gaia and by extension Alaya can do, that is maintain history and create its throne of heroes and finally summon servants. If what you say remains true till NA release (which it should be) then they nerfed ORT.
@@khangnguyenthaiduy9129 not really. iirc it's zero and extra only but FSN/CF/Adventures/Apoc Time Tree is safe, and so does Tsuki/Mahoyo/MB, even Proto too. tbh the Time Tree, Adjacent, Parallel World shit are too confusing for me when it's come to FGO. Like Fate Tree or Tsuki Tree are fine, then we have FGO and SF which makes my brain hurt bad
Despite not having the time to make it back into the Border while carrying Ritsuka, Mash’s first action was still to grab Ritsuka and she was NOT accepting any arguments
You know what's the scariest thing about this fight? It's not that Grand Foreigner ORT is extremely hard to beat or anything about that because that's already a fact by now. *_It's the fact that killing Grand Foreigner ORT....is actually pointless._* If it weren't for Kukulkan (who's essentially ORT's core) sacrificing herself, Chaldea would be locked in an eternal fight with Servant ORT. If Servant (and a Grand-class container at that) ORT gets killed, it would just summon itself again. If it gets killed again, it would summon again, and again...and again. ORT can summon itself INFINITELY because of its own summoning system and as long as a single cell of ORT exists. Of course, that's already assuming that Chaldea could even hope to keep up with Servant ORT. Which, as shown here, is clearly not the case. One huge beam was about to vaporize Chaldea until Kukulkan clutched and saved us.
@@luksalter8200 what script/plot convenience? I thought it was already clear that Kukulkan is ORT's core deified by the Deinos species as their Sun goddess? Of course it would be a separate entity.
@@demigodz6944 so if people have worshiped and believed in an object or phenomenon for a while does that particular thing become a god on its own? Where is the god cross, sun, loginus, among other objects and phenomena worshiped ? it seems to me quite absurd that a part of him was deified without making even stronger
@@luksalter8200 dude these all things are worshipped. and there are god related to this thing exists in nasuverse itself. it is not plot convenience. deinos worshipped them as sun god and because of 'malla' influence. she manifested into god 'kukulkan'.
@@luksalter8200 Divine Spirits being deifications or personifications of people's beliefs and faith in the supernatural of things has been long established in Nasuverse lore. This kind of lore concept already exists since way before FGO was even a thing. Said concept applies to how Kukulkan was born in this Lostbelt.
Gudako: Whatada yah mean! Grand Foreigner ORT isn't in this server!? Dev: Like I said, ORT literally created it's own version of the throne of heroes with itself as the only thing residing in it, that's why the only banner over there regardless if you use quartz or friend point is that of ORT! And the real kicker here is that his always a guaranteed summon with a 100% rate up! Heck! He doesn't even need you to summon him, he'll gladly summon himself for you, free of charge! Gudako: (Conflictedly cry and scream at the same time)
Kuku's story in some way mirror my favorite Superhero. An alien heavily associate with the sun fell from the star and grown to love and admire humanity, becoming the symbol of hope and the greatest champion we can ask for. You do Superman proud, Kuku
"-THAT is a genuine monster." Hearing this said from a guy who survive god / beast tier being, you know this creature in front of him is the real definition of a threat to humanity.
Remember that to be evil of humanity you still needed to care a bit, you need to be anti hero essentially. Hence why Douman couldn't become beast. So it makes sense that ORT is seen as the first pure evil, mindless planet devourere
This quote I feel is accurate to facing ORT, "We're going to die here today, So Thor I ask you will you wait for me in Valhalla?" "Brother I will race you there"
@@pedrorosa9893 It's not from the movies. That was the line spoken by Hyperion to Thor as they faced down the Beyonders in the Time Runs Out storyline of Marvel Comics. For the sake of context, a baby Beyonder would wipe the floor with the entirety of the Nasuverse, ORT and all, effortlessly.
I've probably talked too much with ORT, but damn. Here's something that I will never stop appreciating: I say proudly: *I LOVE Tepeu.* Everything about his character is just so well-written. Dino bro is geniunely one of the best things that happened for this LB. Easily the best NPC of FGO Part 2 character-wise. Nasu cooked like he's Gordon Ramsay with both Tepeu and Camazotz this chapter.
that's because in lot of ways, he is very similar to shiki tohno (main character). i still think shiki tohno is one of the best main protagonist of nasuverse. tepeu is not completely shiki. they had differences but lot of things are same between them like their philosophy about life. and their effort to grow in this stagnant world by enjoying new things.
From his character material description impression: He is one of those broken characters/mob that gets endlessly complained on reddit or everywhere and people calling the devs dumb for their trash balancing
Wait. ORT simulated a future where humanity considered it a hero, so it could summon itself with its counterfeit heroic summoning system? Ngl despite the absurdity of the situation, I’m intrigued about that simulation. In what way would humanity be warped to consider a being like ORT a hero, or in what ways ORT would change to be considered an hero by humanity (which might be doable, seeing how loveable and heroic Kukulkan is).
Pretty easily just have some extra solar entity decide it wants to eat/destroy everything in the solar system. Then we get all the ultimate ones and planets going hell no and we get Aristotle's versus eldritch horrors.
The whole Throne of Heroes, Heroic Spirit, Human Order, Grand Servant summoning system can probably be considered part of the Common Sense of the World, as defined by Gaia and Alaya. ORT is a being equivalent to but completely separate from Gaia and Alaya combined. It defines its own Common Sense. ORT can make its own Throne of Heroes completely separate from Earth's, and make up its own parameters for that Throne. It can just "worship" itself to definite itself as a Heroic Spirit for its own Throne. Then summon itself as a Grand with its own summoning system. ORT is a being that gets to define its own rules on a scale AT LEAST as grand as the entire planet Earth does. It can't overwrite Earth's rules, except as far as it can extend its Reality Marble, but it has pretty much absolute authority (probably not capital-A Authority if that can be considered part of the Common Sense of the World, but who knows) to redefine itself as much as it wants.
@@marisbury he is a god in aztec civilization and not considered evil at all. sacrifice is important in aztec civilization without any malicious context.
It said it 'constructed' a VIRTUAL future where it was acknowledged as a heroic spirit- does this mean LB ORT created an entire simulated parallel future timeline and then took the parts it wanted and used them in the current LB timeline??? Did ORT just do a moon cell?
It did absorbed the Fantasy Tree along having the heart of the Alien God. So yeah it was possible for ORT to construct a simulated timeline where it was acknowledge as a Heroic Spirit.
And this is "weakened" ORT. I'm dreaded the whole "you need to pull everything on the line that even made us a threat to Alaya" thing if that son of a *bleep* this terrifying to deal with, PHH ORT is worse... Just. No
@@fazadhikarizqkoswara9429 Random thought: since it's stated that as long as the battleground is Earth ORT can't lose, does that apply to other planets other than it's native one? Cuz if so then it's a real possibility ORT will never lose
@@rogueascendant6611it didn't use the fantasy tree to simulate a timeline tho, we know fantasy trees are incompatible with proper human history. It had to have used its own power to simulate a future where it became designated as a heroic spirit, not use a simulation of the fantasy tree because heroic spirits and servants are an extension of human history.
I'd like to imagine that ORT also copied the low summoning rates that we have to deal with and got really lucky when it managed to summon itself first go.
Since ORT is basically hacking the Throne of Heroes database, the first thing that it will do is making its rate up as 100% chance. Just like any of us if we are given a chance to temper with the summoning gacha lol
Ritsuka: *_We've encountered many threats up to this point, however, THAT is a geniune monster._* Director Goredolf: *_Tezcatlipoca's future was right! That monster wasn't something humans couldn't do anything about!_* And from these two lines, the sheer emotion of "Hopeless despair" can be felt. Bravo, Nasu.
As If the giant dragon woman,a mountain of fire and ice in the shape of a man,a star with an eye that can vaporize mechas,a giant horned bear wasn't as scary or even more, not to mention average-sized enemies
@@luksalter8200 Of those, how many needed could fight without their heart, needed a concept of death imposed on them, or could create a summoning system on the fly and turn themselves into a Grand Servant? Edit: While not even in top shape, by the way.
The summoning regardless of time and space loopholes is very dangerous, given the opportunity Ort can take anyone made them a hero somewhere or when, and than summon them and bam, an army of heroes.
I really love ORT because it embodiment of ultimate Despait. Which is kinda funny because Cazmatoz can be considered embodiment of Ultimate Hope. Making their rivalry basically Danganronpa reference LMAO
First impresion of dino race: Are we gonna have this mascot looking arses as co-protag this time? Last impression: Lost breath mourning Tepeu. Even got dizzy
Like, imagine being so worn out after finally thinking you won which for all intents and purposes it's fair to think you did win. Just for this crazy sob go ahead and summon himself as a grand foreigner. Honestly i'm surprised that didn't strike absolute fear in our heart 😂
Oh it definitely did, and this is the only thing Ritsuka ever referred as a *Monster* which truly goes to show that ORT is *Monster* in its own right and existence.
I mean, if you've been into the Nasuverse for a while, you know ORT is OP. In fact, you know it's so OP that really there's no existence that really even should be able to defeat it. Anything short of an absolute, true miracle should fall well short of handing Type Mercury an L.
@@romanemperor3160 Saying ORT is not Type-Mercury is arguing semantics. Or at least it was. With the asspulls and retcons the FGO does with pre-existing lore I wouldn't doubt it.
@@zeroconduction ORT being Type Mercury already questionable since in the Tsukihime Material it's been labeled with ??? when called Type Mercury (implying it's not a truth/not the whole truth). FGO just put that theory in place finally so it's not a retcon and more like a clarification of old lore that's questionable (which FGO already done so many times before).
I think what makes it scarier is that it's actually not even the strongest thing out there. Nausverse space is just straight up lovecraftian horror. Greater Sefar could likely deal with types as in order to destroy planets it'd have to have dealt with them at some point. Chaos is only at 3% of it's power, but even in this state can still casually one shot a divine spirit, at full power it's likely stronger than ORT. And of course the Outer Gods which we don't even know what ttheir deal is.
Remember in the setting: Grand class can only be the original 7 classes. Other classes might have servants that are powerful enough to count as a Grand but they can’t use the name Grand?
There’s only 7 “true” Grands, but it is possible to DIY an Extra class Grand with a strong enough Saint graph. QSH in China for example had a Ruler Spirit Origin on the level of a Grand.
@@zxshadowxz QSH is not similar to ORT even slightly. QSH just has huge power that his saint graph can only be given the designation of 'Grand'. ORT on the other create it's own fake history where he is worship as the pinnacle of 'heroes' making him eligible to being 'Grand Servant'. Still the power ORT is superior than any 'Grand'. That's why it's designation should be even higher than Grand but since there exists grand as a designation only. it gets the title 'Grand Foreigner'. This the only point where it is kinda similar to QSH but unlike QSH, he is actually a true 'Grand' but fake in real world.
Except we didn't technically "beat" it; we just shut the window it was using to access our world, locking it away for good. By that same token, Chaldea was no match for ORT even after the latter lost over 99% of its power from having its heart ripped out by Camazotz. It took Kukulkan going all out to put the damn thing down for good, and that's AFTER all the shit we did to it...
I am very curious what can be more dangerous than ORT for it to be literally the Final Boss of Season 2 Lostbelt and the destruction of Earth itself is needed to defeat it. People say it is Chaldea itself due to Daybit's words but if it is true then Ritsuka may end up erasing his whole existence or alter the timeline where Chaldea is never created so all the events of Season 1 and Season 2 never happened (which means he never met Mashu, any of the servants, and etc). There is a lot of theories now due to how there are also rumors of a new Protagonist for Season 3 storyline.
CHALDEAS isn't more stronger. instead it is the true mastermind behind all of this along with Marisbury Animusphere. that's why Daybit was using ORT to destry it. Anyway, CHALDEAS itself isn't strongest but it probably can summon beings who are very powerful. It probably could be even more than ORT by seeing how 'Alien god' is 'summoned' or 'created' is very similar to the reason why ORT came into planet i.e SOS signal from planet itself or from 'alien planet' mimicking as Earth i.e CHALDEAS (The Alien World). I am not saying ORT is here because of CHALDEAS but Alien God is definetly 'created' with this method. So probably it can summon powerful beings as it's apostles like Alien God itself is one of the 'apostle of the alien world'.
Just cleared this thing on NA. It took the servants that it absorbed and studied them and decided to make itself into a Grand servant just to mess with us eternally. The closest thing we got to Servants being overwritten is Tiamat's Chaos Tide but that didn't impact the Throne directly. This thing actually decided to strike the Throne directly. I kinda wonder how Space Ishtar and the Outer Gods would fare against this cosmic space spider at its full power.
He is the final boss of the 2nd part. Part 2 is over. After the completion of LB7, an inactive "prologue" banner appears. The new "final boss" (at least for now) will be Chaldea. Daybit said that Marisbury is the enemy of the entire universe. So if in order to destroy Chaldea, Daybit would have to destroy Earth in the process, compared to saving the universe, that's a reasonable price to pay.
@@BiriBiri925 I wonder what the meaning of "become enemy of universe" that Daybit said?, did marisbury plan against intergalactic law? Or Universe have a will like Gaia and dont like his plan?.
@Denny Dharma Setiawan that might be case and from what I've seen in translation and the fact ORT, Olympians and Mayan-Aztecs exists mean there are other aliens. They might end up hunting humanity down
@Denny Dharma Setiawan maybe their true plan is to reach the age of will in a way where they would colonize the whole universe itself. Maybe that's why they'd become the enemy of the universe with all its types from all celestial bodies trying to stop the proliferation of the parasites that are humanity.
So this is a spoiler I heard that the apostles of alien god actually have 7 servant which so far only reveal 6 for now...The count identity is still a mystery and I am not perfectly sure with this information so anyone has any idea about the whole picture
Spoiler That's about right. Rasputin used titles for them when he talk about them. - Priest (Rasputin) - Atlas Killer (Muramasa) - Evil Incarnation (Douman) - Detective (Holmes) - Professor (most likely Ruler Moriarty) - Count (unknown, some speculate this is Dantes) - God (U-Olga) The first three assigned to monitor Crypters. The next three assigned to monitor Chaldea. The last one assigned to act as the leader without even realizing she is just an apostle.
I mean, it’s all shiny and glowy, it’s capable of terraforming the planet’s texture with its own crystalline one and even transmute beings that comes into contact with its body into crystal, and it emits oceanic amounts of radiation. That certainly is what I would call a radiant thing.
In The Notes or nasuverse, ORT should be secret and cannot be killed because unknown But in fgo maybe nasu change his mind? And funny thing about lostbelt 7 is “stupidly worthless and complicated “ or choose the option = lostbelt 7 got destroyed because chaldea or because disturbing ORT rest time but nasu choose both option and make it complicated
If you think about it, the way ORT was stopped makes sense. Camazotz did all the hard work, fighting the damn thing for an untold amount of time and managing to rip ORT's heart out. He then made that heart the sun that the deinos worshipped as a god. Only problem is, Camazotz's whole kingdom had to sacrifice themselves to give him the immortality he needed to fight ORT. So when the battle ended, he lamented the loss of everyone he knew and loved, to the point of becoming a Beast. To make up for its lost power source, Daybit gave ORT the Tree of Emptiness Ceiba to munch on. However, this was only enough to allow it to keep functioning. ORT still lacked the vast majority of its true power, and only by reclaiming the sun would it reclaim its lost power. This is where Chaldea came in. We tried to kill off what's left of ORT before it woke up. That failed, so it terraformed the entirety of the Lostbelt into a Sea of Trees and started advancing toward the sun. We threw one Servant after another at it to try and stop it, but ORT just casually snacked on our Servants' data and kept advancing. Eventually, however, the damage caused by our Servants' attacks crippled its spider body to where it could no longer move. We won...right? Wrong. ORT's actual body was revealed to be the flying saucer above its head. It continued its advance, all the while snacking on the data of every Servant that attacked it. At this point, Chaldea's Servant arsenal is almost depleted, and Fujimaru ended up hitting his limit as well. The situation seemed hopeless, but from out of nowhere, Tepeu went full Shiki Mode and managed to weaken ORT dramatically. (Arcueid would be proud of him 😎) ORT eventually reached the Storm Border, the last defense standing between it and the sun, and also humanity's last hope of survival. Da Vinci, Nemo, Koyanskaya, and Mash went all out to weaken ORT while the ship's Excalibur cannon prepared to fire. Since ORT was humanity's greatest threat, a single shot from this cannon would be powerful enough to disintegrate its entire body in one shot. The cannon went off, but ORT warped space and redirected the blast away from it. And we no longer have any energy left for a second shot. It's all over now...or is it? Enter U-Olga Marie, the self-proclaimed President of Earth. She finally decided to use her full power here, putting ORT under a time lock so it cannot defend itself, then poured everything she had left into the Excalibur cannon, giving Chaldea its true last chance to put the giant alien down...
@@vietle8900 Exactly. We were already 100% drained, and then ORT summons itself as a Grand Foreigner. Now we are well and truly dead. We can't run, we can't fight, we can't save anyone -- that's it. Game Over. At least it would be if Kukulkan hadn't jumped in at the last second to save us from a lethal cosmic ray attack. Unironically, she and only she had the power to finish off ORT, since she was its heart. Her being friends with us had truly proved to be our salvation, and as ORT attempted to summon itself again after being taken out by our attacks, Kukulkan released her full power and put the thing away for good. The Sea of Fantasy Trees finally dissipates with ORT's final defeat, and any living thing that remained - if there were any - fell asleep for the last time. Kukulkan said her farewells, and left to spend her final moments with her fallen subjects. But just as our victory celebration was about to begin... ... Fujimaru's heart stopped. Whether by exhaustion or by the lingering effects of the cosmic rays emitted by ORT during the battle, our beloved MC died once again. Fujimaru woke up in the afterlife once more, and made his way towards a campfire, where he's greeted by two familiar faces: Tezcatlipoca, the one with whom he traded his Command Spells for the right to keep living, and his master, Daybit Sem Void. The latter wanted to fight Fujimaru in a duel of Masters, so the former gave back the Command Spells he received from our MC. The winner would return to life as a full-fledged Master, while the loser would remain behind. For Fujimaru, this meant continuing the fight to restore the bleached Earth. For Daybit, this meant a second chance to destroy the world using ORT as his trump card. The true final battle of Lostbelt 7 began....
ORT clearly took at heart Gilgamesh words: "I am the rules", and brought them to a whole new level
Medea: This is getting out of hand, now there's two of them?!
@@sk_hermit1809 ORT: Before Gilgamesh was ever a thing, I have always existed. His power to rewrite the rules was derived from mine, and as such, will never compare to mine. Not now, not ever.
@@cameraredeye3115 apparently, this THING is even older than the Universe... So it DOES make sense here🤣🤣🤣
@@vietle8900 Yeah because the Oort Cloud is older the Universe. Fate Metaphysics are full on bs lol.
ORT went a step further:
Gilgamesh: "I AM the rules!"
ORT: "Rules? What are those? Are they things that you can eat?"
That red text from Trismegistus II is enough to spook anybody no matter how many times I see it. The fact that it said "ORT is summoning itself as a Grand Foreigner" made all of Chaldea say WTF, especially since they had already hit their limit...
Yeah when your computer automatically changes font and colour just to show how fucked you are
Chaldea : But... but you have to do important deeds to be a servant
ORT : Nah, I will just create my own throne of heroes outside space-time. My "impotant deed" will be me going supernova on your asses 30 seconds from now.
Also ORT: I am THE important!
ORT is easily one of the coolest Eldritch horrors ever put in fiction. The fact it is so powerful in a universe known for it's overpowered characters and it regularly breaks pre established rules with seemingly no effort makes it equal parts awesome and equal parts *horrifying* .
It's called lack of coherence and not giving a fuck about suspension of belief.
And this is at maybe 1% of its potential power. Think about it: Chaldea was getting owned by an ORT that was so heavily nerfed by Camazotz it wasn't even funny. A true testament to the power of the Ultimate One of the Oort Cloud, if I dare say so myself.
@@cameraredeye3115 headcanon,you can already delete your comment
@@luksalter8200 this isn't headcanon. the ORT we fight is not from pph. it's from the south lostbelt, that's why it's so heavily nerfed
@@kiana4237 It is not, lostbelt are possible alternative futures,so it's essentially the same ort as tsukihime or any nasuverse work
Everyone: Let’s have a moment of silence for our dear Olga Marie…
ORT: So umm hi?
Everyone: MOTHERFU--
Ort: well she did her best, so...
Can i eat you all now? I'm hungry.
Nasuverse: a universe with complex rule, concept, and restriction that even gods can't defy.
ORT: sorry, all of those thing doesn't apply to me.
I've heard that Nasuverse rule book is burned in 2017 (by the Goetia's incineraion of mankind presumably). Tsukihime remake and FGO arc 2 are supposed to be the follow up of those events, like a rebrand or a soft reboot.
All Ultimate ones of the planet are like that they have their own rule and own logic and own reality its not that they broke the rules because they ARE THE RULES
@@Ultimate0Phantasm Ort is no longer an Ultimate One after the rebrand. Have you read LB7? It is... a thing came out from the Big Bang which is even older than the universe. It spent its own life to consume other planet in order to recreate the thing it once was (whatever exist before the Big Bang). As a result of that, it can modify to mimic other things like how it ate servants or how it summoned itself as Grand Foreigner by mimicking other's power.
Before the reboot, it is an Ultimate One written in Notes, now... it is something else.
@@khangnguyenthaiduy9129 That is lame.... although gives ORT more hype. Like as a living terminal of a celestial body, it should be able to do what Gaia and by extension Alaya can do, that is maintain history and create its throne of heroes and finally summon servants. If what you say remains true till NA release (which it should be) then they nerfed ORT.
@@khangnguyenthaiduy9129 not really. iirc it's zero and extra only but FSN/CF/Adventures/Apoc Time Tree is safe, and so does Tsuki/Mahoyo/MB, even Proto too. tbh the Time Tree, Adjacent, Parallel World shit are too confusing for me when it's come to FGO. Like Fate Tree or Tsuki Tree are fine, then we have FGO and SF which makes my brain hurt bad
So, ORT made a fanfiction of himself and the throne of heroes be like: 👍👍👍
More like he made a brand new fanfiction website with its own rule and upload its fanfiction there
Fujimaru: well that was easy…
“YOU THOUGHT THIS WAS OVER, WELL IT AINT OVER TO YOUR DEAD PUNK.” - ORT the Undying
-ORT the Petty as F_ck
ORT: Feeling lucky, punk?
Despite not having the time to make it back into the Border while carrying Ritsuka, Mash’s first action was still to grab Ritsuka and she was NOT accepting any arguments
You know what's the scariest thing about this fight?
It's not that Grand Foreigner ORT is extremely hard to beat or anything about that because that's already a fact by now.
*_It's the fact that killing Grand Foreigner ORT....is actually pointless._*
If it weren't for Kukulkan (who's essentially ORT's core) sacrificing herself, Chaldea would be locked in an eternal fight with Servant ORT. If Servant (and a Grand-class container at that) ORT gets killed, it would just summon itself again. If it gets killed again, it would summon again, and again...and again. ORT can summon itself INFINITELY because of its own summoning system and as long as a single cell of ORT exists.
Of course, that's already assuming that Chaldea could even hope to keep up with Servant ORT. Which, as shown here, is clearly not the case. One huge beam was about to vaporize Chaldea until Kukulkan clutched and saved us.
Why the core is fighting the main body in First place ? Is that what they call script convenience ?
@@luksalter8200 what script/plot convenience?
I thought it was already clear that Kukulkan is ORT's core deified by the Deinos species as their Sun goddess? Of course it would be a separate entity.
@@demigodz6944 so if people have worshiped and believed in an object or phenomenon for a while does that particular thing become a god on its own? Where is the god cross, sun, loginus, among other objects and phenomena worshiped ? it seems to me quite absurd that a part of him was deified without making even stronger
@@luksalter8200 dude these all things are worshipped. and there are god related to this thing exists in nasuverse itself. it is not plot convenience. deinos worshipped them as sun god and because of 'malla' influence. she manifested into god 'kukulkan'.
@@luksalter8200 Divine Spirits being deifications or personifications of people's beliefs and faith in the supernatural of things has been long established in Nasuverse lore. This kind of lore concept already exists since way before FGO was even a thing.
Said concept applies to how Kukulkan was born in this Lostbelt.
"what part of 'Ultimate One' Did you puny humans not understand"
-Big Alien Spider God thing, probably
Archetype Earth (level 120 NP5): THEMS FIGHTING WORDS
Gudako: Whatada yah mean! Grand Foreigner ORT isn't in this server!?
Dev: Like I said, ORT literally created it's own version of the throne of heroes with itself as the only thing residing in it, that's why the only banner over there regardless if you use quartz or friend point is that of ORT!
And the real kicker here is that his always a guaranteed summon with a 100% rate up!
Heck! He doesn't even need you to summon him, he'll gladly summon himself for you, free of charge!
Gudako: (Conflictedly cry and scream at the same time)
Kuku's story in some way mirror my favorite Superhero.
An alien heavily associate with the sun fell from the star and grown to love and admire humanity, becoming the symbol of hope and the greatest champion we can ask for.
You do Superman proud, Kuku
"-THAT is a genuine monster."
Hearing this said from a guy who survive god / beast tier being, you know this creature in front of him is the real definition of a threat to humanity.
Remember that to be evil of humanity you still needed to care a bit, you need to be anti hero essentially. Hence why Douman couldn't become beast. So it makes sense that ORT is seen as the first pure evil, mindless planet devourere
1:30 that despair on face of Mash, true monster, I can't wait when this lostbelt will be on NA
I noticed that too and I was like "Oooh shit, we're super fucked."
This quote I feel is accurate to facing ORT, "We're going to die here today, So Thor I ask you will you wait for me in Valhalla?" "Brother I will race you there"
What movie?
@@pedrorosa9893 It's not from the movies.
That was the line spoken by Hyperion to Thor as they faced down the Beyonders in the Time Runs Out storyline of Marvel Comics.
For the sake of context, a baby Beyonder would wipe the floor with the entirety of the Nasuverse, ORT and all, effortlessly.
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Wow, that OP?
@@jamesvanitasyeah in one of the quotes explaining for said baby beyonder, it said " he is like God before genesis", crazy asf
I've probably talked too much with ORT, but damn. Here's something that I will never stop appreciating:
I say proudly: *I LOVE Tepeu.* Everything about his character is just so well-written. Dino bro is geniunely one of the best things that happened for this LB. Easily the best NPC of FGO Part 2 character-wise.
Nasu cooked like he's Gordon Ramsay with both Tepeu and Camazotz this chapter.
that's because in lot of ways, he is very similar to shiki tohno (main character). i still think shiki tohno is one of the best main protagonist of nasuverse. tepeu is not completely shiki. they had differences but lot of things are same between them like their philosophy about life. and their effort to grow in this stagnant world by enjoying new things.
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I mean, considering how they both have the same mystic eyes, I think Tepu is basically deinos Shiki Tohno.
ORT is like that OP character in a game that got nerfed several times and yet still remained OP lol
From his character material description impression: He is one of those broken characters/mob that gets endlessly complained on reddit or everywhere and people calling the devs dumb for their trash balancing
Wait. ORT simulated a future where humanity considered it a hero, so it could summon itself with its counterfeit heroic summoning system? Ngl despite the absurdity of the situation, I’m intrigued about that simulation. In what way would humanity be warped to consider a being like ORT a hero, or in what ways ORT would change to be considered an hero by humanity (which might be doable, seeing how loveable and heroic Kukulkan is).
Pretty easily just have some extra solar entity decide it wants to eat/destroy everything in the solar system. Then we get all the ultimate ones and planets going hell no and we get Aristotle's versus eldritch horrors.
Perhaps it’s a future in which ORT fights against whoever the final boss of Part 2 is.
He can just simulate people who worship him as God. Like, is Tezcatlipoca a hero? He is mostly known for human sacrifices.
The whole Throne of Heroes, Heroic Spirit, Human Order, Grand Servant summoning system can probably be considered part of the Common Sense of the World, as defined by Gaia and Alaya. ORT is a being equivalent to but completely separate from Gaia and Alaya combined. It defines its own Common Sense. ORT can make its own Throne of Heroes completely separate from Earth's, and make up its own parameters for that Throne. It can just "worship" itself to definite itself as a Heroic Spirit for its own Throne. Then summon itself as a Grand with its own summoning system.
ORT is a being that gets to define its own rules on a scale AT LEAST as grand as the entire planet Earth does. It can't overwrite Earth's rules, except as far as it can extend its Reality Marble, but it has pretty much absolute authority (probably not capital-A Authority if that can be considered part of the Common Sense of the World, but who knows) to redefine itself as much as it wants.
@@marisbury he is a god in aztec civilization and not considered evil at all. sacrifice is important in aztec civilization without any malicious context.
Nasu really was cooking this whole chapter, even tho left us completely broken the afterwards
It took me this long to realize ORT is short of for One Radiance Thing.
It said it 'constructed' a VIRTUAL future where it was acknowledged as a heroic spirit- does this mean LB ORT created an entire simulated parallel future timeline and then took the parts it wanted and used them in the current LB timeline??? Did ORT just do a moon cell?
It did absorbed the Fantasy Tree along having the heart of the Alien God.
So yeah it was possible for ORT to construct a simulated timeline where it was acknowledge as a Heroic Spirit.
And this is "weakened" ORT. I'm dreaded the whole "you need to pull everything on the line that even made us a threat to Alaya" thing if that son of a *bleep* this terrifying to deal with, PHH ORT is worse... Just. No
@@fazadhikarizqkoswara9429 Random thought: since it's stated that as long as the battleground is Earth ORT can't lose, does that apply to other planets other than it's native one? Cuz if so then it's a real possibility ORT will never lose
@@fridaybutitssaturday1362 It's more like on proper earth, ORT has alot of target to eat, adapt and evolve.
@@rogueascendant6611it didn't use the fantasy tree to simulate a timeline tho, we know fantasy trees are incompatible with proper human history. It had to have used its own power to simulate a future where it became designated as a heroic spirit, not use a simulation of the fantasy tree because heroic spirits and servants are an extension of human history.
I'd like to imagine that ORT also copied the low summoning rates that we have to deal with and got really lucky when it managed to summon itself first go.
Alternate universe where you have to fight Grand Avenger Mapo Tofu
0.00000000001% summoned rate
Since ORT is basically hacking the Throne of Heroes database, the first thing that it will do is making its rate up as 100% chance. Just like any of us if we are given a chance to temper with the summoning gacha lol
Ritsuka: *_We've encountered many threats up to this point, however, THAT is a geniune monster._*
Director Goredolf: *_Tezcatlipoca's future was right! That monster wasn't something humans couldn't do anything about!_*
And from these two lines, the sheer emotion of "Hopeless despair" can be felt. Bravo, Nasu.
As If the giant dragon woman,a mountain of fire and ice in the shape of a man,a star with an eye that can vaporize mechas,a giant horned bear wasn't as scary or even more, not to mention average-sized enemies
@@luksalter8200 Of those, how many needed could fight without their heart, needed a concept of death imposed on them, or could create a summoning system on the fly and turn themselves into a Grand Servant?
Edit: While not even in top shape, by the way.
@@TheRedJadex weird how they still had a better plot anyway
@@luksalter8200 That's subjective, and not what we're talking about. ORT still has better feats.
@@TheRedJadex yeah,he got killed two times before being victim of the plot
I used the ORT to destroy the ORT
One Radiance Thing.
Huh. That kinda fits. It is a thing that glows alien radiation 😂
Apparently according to nasu and in notes, ORT and type moon is a boss before final boss which make me wonder which type is the final boss
Probably Lovecraftian gods or something
There can be only one...
THE SUN
Neco Arc
Type Moon of course
Final boss is a black hole 😂
That "--------は?" really is the only appropriate reaction upon witnessing the moving absurdity that is ORT
Gudao: This is worst lostbelt EVER! ORT: This is best lostbelt! Me: THis is A LOSTBELT!
I understood that reference.
The summoning regardless of time and space loopholes is very dangerous, given the opportunity Ort can take anyone made them a hero somewhere or when, and than summon them and bam, an army of heroes.
I really love ORT because it embodiment of ultimate Despait. Which is kinda funny because Cazmatoz can be considered embodiment of Ultimate Hope. Making their rivalry basically Danganronpa reference LMAO
Not only that but Nasu love Danganronpa so it kinda make sense
Making me TL this long ass scene😡
Despite the length of it, you did a great job as always.
Thank you broddha.
Thanks for the effort dude!
@@xNaya Kukulkan being a cute goof in it helped.
Thank you very much!
Why did y'all let ORT cook😭
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First impresion of dino race: Are we gonna have this mascot looking arses as co-protag this time?
Last impression: Lost breath mourning Tepeu. Even got dizzy
ORT be like: I still got apples man wdym it's over?
I fear no man
But that *thing*
*It scares me*
Like, imagine being so worn out after finally thinking you won which for all intents and purposes it's fair to think you did win. Just for this crazy sob go ahead and summon himself as a grand foreigner. Honestly i'm surprised that didn't strike absolute fear in our heart 😂
Oh it definitely did, and this is the only thing Ritsuka ever referred as a *Monster* which truly goes to show that ORT is *Monster* in its own right and existence.
I mean, if you've been into the Nasuverse for a while, you know ORT is OP. In fact, you know it's so OP that really there's no existence that really even should be able to defeat it. Anything short of an absolute, true miracle should fall well short of handing Type Mercury an L.
It is not type mercury
@@romanemperor3160 Saying ORT is not Type-Mercury is arguing semantics. Or at least it was. With the asspulls and retcons the FGO does with pre-existing lore I wouldn't doubt it.
@@zeroconduction ORT being Type Mercury already questionable since in the Tsukihime Material it's been labeled with ??? when called Type Mercury (implying it's not a truth/not the whole truth). FGO just put that theory in place finally so it's not a retcon and more like a clarification of old lore that's questionable (which FGO already done so many times before).
I think what makes it scarier is that it's actually not even the strongest thing out there. Nausverse space is just straight up lovecraftian horror. Greater Sefar could likely deal with types as in order to destroy planets it'd have to have dealt with them at some point. Chaos is only at 3% of it's power, but even in this state can still casually one shot a divine spirit, at full power it's likely stronger than ORT. And of course the Outer Gods which we don't even know what ttheir deal is.
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ORT: Monster? ORT is not a monster. ORT is.... durh....
Ritsuka: A genuine demon?
Mash: A true freak?
ORT: The devil!
Goes to show how terrifying True ORT is if this kneecapped version is this difficult to kill.
It actually looks like the foreigner class card
Remember in the setting: Grand class can only be the original 7 classes. Other classes might have servants that are powerful enough to count as a Grand but they can’t use the name Grand?
Its just grand. Not grand order
rule breaker!!
There’s only 7 “true” Grands, but it is possible to DIY an Extra class Grand with a strong enough Saint graph. QSH in China for example had a Ruler Spirit Origin on the level of a Grand.
Grand Foreign break 7 Original 🤡
@@zxshadowxz QSH is not similar to ORT even slightly. QSH just has huge power that his saint graph can only be given the designation of 'Grand'.
ORT on the other create it's own fake history where he is worship as the pinnacle of 'heroes' making him eligible to being 'Grand Servant'. Still the power ORT is superior than any 'Grand'.
That's why it's designation should be even higher than Grand but since there exists grand as a designation only. it gets the title 'Grand Foreigner'. This the only point where it is kinda similar to QSH but unlike QSH, he is actually a true 'Grand' but fake in real world.
This kinda reminds me of the climax for the LB5, where the final boss is in space and they're chasing it using Border's ship to defeat it.
Except we didn't technically "beat" it; we just shut the window it was using to access our world, locking it away for good.
By that same token, Chaldea was no match for ORT even after the latter lost over 99% of its power from having its heart ripped out by Camazotz. It took Kukulkan going all out to put the damn thing down for good, and that's AFTER all the shit we did to it...
I am very curious what can be more dangerous than ORT for it to be literally the Final Boss of Season 2 Lostbelt and the destruction of Earth itself is needed to defeat it. People say it is Chaldea itself due to Daybit's words but if it is true then Ritsuka may end up erasing his whole existence or alter the timeline where Chaldea is never created so all the events of Season 1 and Season 2 never happened (which means he never met Mashu, any of the servants, and etc). There is a lot of theories now due to how there are also rumors of a new Protagonist for Season 3 storyline.
CHALDEAS isn't more stronger. instead it is the true mastermind behind all of this along with Marisbury Animusphere. that's why Daybit was using ORT to destry it.
Anyway, CHALDEAS itself isn't strongest but it probably can summon beings who are very powerful.
It probably could be even more than ORT by seeing how 'Alien god' is 'summoned' or 'created' is very similar to the reason why ORT came into planet i.e SOS signal from planet itself or from 'alien planet' mimicking as Earth i.e CHALDEAS (The Alien World).
I am not saying ORT is here because of CHALDEAS but Alien God is definetly 'created' with this method. So probably it can summon powerful beings as it's apostles like Alien God itself is one of the 'apostle of the alien world'.
Marisbury Animusphere might manifest himself as the real Beast VII in Part 3...
Just cleared this thing on NA.
It took the servants that it absorbed and studied them and decided to make itself into a Grand servant just to mess with us eternally.
The closest thing we got to Servants being overwritten is Tiamat's Chaos Tide but that didn't impact the Throne directly.
This thing actually decided to strike the Throne directly.
I kinda wonder how Space Ishtar and the Outer Gods would fare against this cosmic space spider at its full power.
god.. imagine if all the other ultimate ones decide to attack too
Type venus is literally a much more powerful version of tiamat
This needs to be animated!
So, if Secret boss is this powerful.
How strong is final boss of Part 2?
He is the final boss of the 2nd part. Part 2 is over. After the completion of LB7, an inactive "prologue" banner appears. The new "final boss" (at least for now) will be Chaldea. Daybit said that Marisbury is the enemy of the entire universe. So if in order to destroy Chaldea, Daybit would have to destroy Earth in the process, compared to saving the universe, that's a reasonable price to pay.
@@BiriBiri925 I wonder what the meaning of "become enemy of universe" that Daybit said?, did marisbury plan against intergalactic law? Or Universe have a will like Gaia and dont like his plan?.
@Denny Dharma Setiawan that might be case and from what I've seen in translation and the fact ORT, Olympians and Mayan-Aztecs exists mean there are other aliens. They might end up hunting humanity down
@@BiriBiri925 Inb4 Marisbury returns as the true Beast VII
@Denny Dharma Setiawan maybe their true plan is to reach the age of will in a way where they would colonize the whole universe itself. Maybe that's why they'd become the enemy of the universe with all its types from all celestial bodies trying to stop the proliferation of the parasites that are humanity.
One of the few times ""Go back to where you came from!" isn't racist. :D
That word is never racist. Ppl surely throwing the word racist, huh?.
There id the Faes who I would not save their lifes not even for five cents and then there is the Dino-bros
Make him summonable...!
Does anyone know the bgm starting from 4:21?
Literally what I'm trying to find out, too. I'm not sure if it's been released yet.
me: "IT'S THAT DAMNED SPIDER"
So this is a spoiler
I heard that the apostles of alien god actually have 7 servant which so far only reveal 6 for now...The count identity is still a mystery and I am not perfectly sure with this information so anyone has any idea about the whole picture
Spoiler
That's about right. Rasputin used titles for them when he talk about them.
- Priest (Rasputin)
- Atlas Killer (Muramasa)
- Evil Incarnation (Douman)
- Detective (Holmes)
- Professor (most likely Ruler Moriarty)
- Count (unknown, some speculate this is Dantes)
- God (U-Olga)
The first three assigned to monitor Crypters. The next three assigned to monitor Chaldea. The last one assigned to act as the leader without even realizing she is just an apostle.
Koskaya,rapustin,douma,muramasa,homles...who's the six's?
@@yogialghani3151 Koyanskaya isn't part of the apostle
@Nishu probably Olga soul.
@@yukiru0566 oh i forgot about that 😅😅
Lostbelt 7 = Arachnophobia
Can’t believe ORT stands for “One Radiance Thing” like what the hell does that mean.
“Outside Reality Threat” would’ve been better.
I mean, it’s all shiny and glowy, it’s capable of terraforming the planet’s texture with its own crystalline one and even transmute beings that comes into contact with its body into crystal, and it emits oceanic amounts of radiation. That certainly is what I would call a radiant thing.
エボルト並みにしつこい奴だったな…二度と現れるんじゃねえぞ、ORT。
Anybody know the ost playing when tepeu and kuku are talking
What is the OST at 4:21 because feels
In here i am, still don't know What ORT😅
3:49 ost name please
This is the Guda Guda 7 grand battle
@@miteigi8334 thanks
where neco-arc when you need her
8:21 bgm？
Chaldea Summer Adventure Fatal Battle OST
@@voidful9117 do you know the song @ 7:32
2:56
2:56
2:56
Lvl 1
Can he beat Anti Spiral tho?
No that'd too much
Since he makes beings capable of annihilating the multiverse look like insects, it's up to you.
For me ORT its big problem for win
In The Notes or nasuverse, ORT should be secret and cannot be killed because unknown
But in fgo maybe nasu change his mind? And funny thing about lostbelt 7 is “stupidly worthless and complicated “ or choose the option = lostbelt 7 got destroyed because chaldea or because disturbing ORT rest time
but nasu choose both option and make it complicated
If you think about it, the way ORT was stopped makes sense. Camazotz did all the hard work, fighting the damn thing for an untold amount of time and managing to rip ORT's heart out. He then made that heart the sun that the deinos worshipped as a god.
Only problem is, Camazotz's whole kingdom had to sacrifice themselves to give him the immortality he needed to fight ORT. So when the battle ended, he lamented the loss of everyone he knew and loved, to the point of becoming a Beast.
To make up for its lost power source, Daybit gave ORT the Tree of Emptiness Ceiba to munch on. However, this was only enough to allow it to keep functioning. ORT still lacked the vast majority of its true power, and only by reclaiming the sun would it reclaim its lost power.
This is where Chaldea came in. We tried to kill off what's left of ORT before it woke up. That failed, so it terraformed the entirety of the Lostbelt into a Sea of Trees and started advancing toward the sun. We threw one Servant after another at it to try and stop it, but ORT just casually snacked on our Servants' data and kept advancing. Eventually, however, the damage caused by our Servants' attacks crippled its spider body to where it could no longer move. We won...right?
Wrong. ORT's actual body was revealed to be the flying saucer above its head. It continued its advance, all the while snacking on the data of every Servant that attacked it. At this point, Chaldea's Servant arsenal is almost depleted, and Fujimaru ended up hitting his limit as well. The situation seemed hopeless, but from out of nowhere, Tepeu went full Shiki Mode and managed to weaken ORT dramatically. (Arcueid would be proud of him 😎)
ORT eventually reached the Storm Border, the last defense standing between it and the sun, and also humanity's last hope of survival. Da Vinci, Nemo, Koyanskaya, and Mash went all out to weaken ORT while the ship's Excalibur cannon prepared to fire. Since ORT was humanity's greatest threat, a single shot from this cannon would be powerful enough to disintegrate its entire body in one shot. The cannon went off, but ORT warped space and redirected the blast away from it. And we no longer have any energy left for a second shot. It's all over now...or is it?
Enter U-Olga Marie, the self-proclaimed President of Earth. She finally decided to use her full power here, putting ORT under a time lock so it cannot defend itself, then poured everything she had left into the Excalibur cannon, giving Chaldea its true last chance to put the giant alien down...
@@cameraredeye3115 and then, THAT THING pulled THIS SH*T off
@@vietle8900 Exactly. We were already 100% drained, and then ORT summons itself as a Grand Foreigner. Now we are well and truly dead. We can't run, we can't fight, we can't save anyone -- that's it. Game Over.
At least it would be if Kukulkan hadn't jumped in at the last second to save us from a lethal cosmic ray attack. Unironically, she and only she had the power to finish off ORT, since she was its heart. Her being friends with us had truly proved to be our salvation, and as ORT attempted to summon itself again after being taken out by our attacks, Kukulkan released her full power and put the thing away for good.
The Sea of Fantasy Trees finally dissipates with ORT's final defeat, and any living thing that remained - if there were any - fell asleep for the last time. Kukulkan said her farewells, and left to spend her final moments with her fallen subjects. But just as our victory celebration was about to begin...
... Fujimaru's heart stopped.
Whether by exhaustion or by the lingering effects of the cosmic rays emitted by ORT during the battle, our beloved MC died once again.
Fujimaru woke up in the afterlife once more, and made his way towards a campfire, where he's greeted by two familiar faces: Tezcatlipoca, the one with whom he traded his Command Spells for the right to keep living, and his master, Daybit Sem Void. The latter wanted to fight Fujimaru in a duel of Masters, so the former gave back the Command Spells he received from our MC. The winner would return to life as a full-fledged Master, while the loser would remain behind.
For Fujimaru, this meant continuing the fight to restore the bleached Earth.
For Daybit, this meant a second chance to destroy the world using ORT as his trump card.
The true final battle of Lostbelt 7 began....
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これでクリアだと思った？残念！オルト・シバルバーでした♥️
OST at Kukulkan appearance? 3:50
GUDAGUDA Yamataikoku Grand Battle OST
@@demigodz6944 Thank you thank you.