I can imagine tired and overworked Alaya just skip parts because they still have lots of candidate to interview "blablablabla defeat Chaldea, ok approved, NEXT"
It's more like this - Counter Force: Do you have any confirmation that you are eligible in the Throne of Heroes? ORT: I have my certificates and college degrees sir/mam. Counter Force: You're hired!
@@danielhong6908 Not really, Ado Adem can’t kill TYPEs, he also had a ridiculous attribute advantage on the TYPE’s he fought. V/V and Gun God think the battle against The Aristoteles in the Land of Steel is hopeless specifically because the TYPE’s will eventually just come back. The only reason Mictlan ORT was even pushed to the point of Replica Summoning System is because Beni-enma Alter used Azrael on it. TL;DR ORT: What is this [Death] you speak of? Beni-Enma Alt.: “Azrael” *shoves [Death] down ORT’s throat* ORT: Alright Fair, but counterpoint- U-Olga + Chaldea: *Obliterates ORT with Hume-barrel Rayproof* One Radiance Thing: -I don’t feel like it
@pranavshinde4472 Exactly. How they let you fight and defeat ORT while still paying respect to his "secret unbeatable superboss" status in canon was pulled off masterfully. If this is ORT at a tiny fraction of its true power, I literally cannot see how humanity would even defeat ORT in PHH, especially considering that its capabilities in LB7 means that the Counter Force, traditional weaponry, literally anything and everything that Alaya could throw at it wouldn't even so much as put a scratch on it.
@@pranavshinde4472o u just misunderstood the thing it said "not the strongest one", not "not the strongest Strongest One" meaning that Gaia summoned multiple "Strongest One" aka Ultimate Ones, not ORT (not) being the strongest i dont think theres a scaling between Types actually, only Type Moon getting ranked down to satellite rank thx to AAA dialogue with Arc on the recent summer event
and after that it caused a paradox due to existing as long as the Big Bang or right before the Big Bang happened… yea it caused a Paradox, what other damned being in Typemoon World can cause a Paradox like that?!!
The thing that makes me shudders is what's written in its character materials. " It is able to partially simulate the creatures it preys upon, allowing it to potentially mimic Human speech if it devours a human. It cannot actually learn the culture of Earth, so it would simply remain as an imitation, unlike V/V (Type Venus)" This thing doesn't understand the throne. What it's doing right now is equivalent to a foreigner saying "Arigato" and "Daisuki" after hearing it several times from japanese without context to what it actually entails.
The thing is it was able to summon itself as a Grand servant, the Throne of Heroes' trump card. It is equivalent to speaking fluent Japanese without understanding what it itself saying.
@@thethessaliah it is sentient. Its mindset is closer to Gaia's own Sentience and Gaia thought process is Alien to humans own despite being the Planet that spawned them.
I like to imagine that when ORT summoned itself back to life it pointed directly at Ritsuka and said, ‘I’m not done yet, I hate you too much to die here.”
At that point ORT had nothing more it could do, creating a servant version of itself and summoning it was basically a last ditch attempt to defeat the protagonist.
@@Otakumanu Amazingly, it would have worked if not for Kukulcan jumping in when she did. A second later and we were goners, since we literally spent everything we had in-story just to beat its big spider/UFO body and then it pulls THIS move on us... And it's on power-saving mode the whole time, to boot.
@@cameraredeye3115 The entire fight is pretty awesome for ORT. It starts the fight crippled, gets more permanent damage as it goes on, but it just refuses to give up, even after it's original objective becomes impossible.
It didn't create its own summon system, it hacked into the one already available and used the Fantasy Tree's simulation abilities plus the Servant summoning data it assimilated to force feed the Throne of Heroes a simulated timeline of itself as a Servant that the Throne would accept.
@@jacksimpson8529I don't care enough to reread anything for this, but I don't remember anything about this. I'm pretty sure what it actually did was the Servantverse thing. It materialized its soul into the world, manifesting as a Servant, because it developed a good enough understanding of servants and how they operate to reverse engineer it and manifest as a "True Heroic Spirit" independently of the Throne of Heroes. The only reason it's designated as "Grand Foreigner" is because that was the best designation we could give. But really, I suspect this so-called "Grand Foreigner" doesn't have a class. At least, that's how I've understood it this whole time. Where did you get yours? What's the source?
@@Ohimeshinso _"That's a nice argument, Senator, but why don't you back it up with a _*_source?"_* "My source is that I *made it the fuck up."* Sorry, I couldn't resist. 😅
Notice that ORT's final gauge break skill is named "Chaldea: the One Who Defies Impossibilities." Are we getting secretly complimented by the all-consuming alien entity who, according to source materials, can't even talk or think like humans do?
It was once said that if ORT consumed a human they would learn to speak But it would be like a parrot repeating what the humans around it say He would not really understand our way of thinking since the assimilation of ORT prevents him from acquiring foreign concepts Unlike other types with the same ability such as type venus
I think at this point ORT has seriously considered Chaldea as a fearful force. As the Ultimate One, ORT is the pinnacle creature, and current humanity shouldn't have the strength to face it directly at all. But Chaldea cornered it into summoning itself as a Servant to survive, which vastly downgrades its true power. Chaldea is no longer a prey but an enemy it should destroy at all cost once it gets its core back.
@@tatinh9885 to my understanding ORT doesn’t possess a human intelligence. While it can mimic it, its own rational to too alien because it literally is. That said it should still have something close to survival instincts to see a threat
This is it. We’ve slain the Spider of the Oort Cloud, preventing it from destroying our world. But ORT had consumed many of our Servants and has learned the summoning system to summon them. This was its final spite. Descending now from its own fictional story, a Grand Foreigner appears in an aurora of destruction. With the Lostbelt King aiding us, we confront the one known as ORT Xibalba in one last Grand Battle. Humanity will be the one who rules the planet!
@@r3dr4te963damn straight! We threw everything we had to prevent it from getting its heart. It prioritize its own preservation over anything else and it decided we needed to go and summon this thing for killing it.
@@Tyztube21throwing everything at it only to ignore it since attacking ORT is more like us being a nuisance it ignored until we blasted Hume Barrel Ray Proof aka Full powered Excalibur given by Artoria Avalon herself, ORT deflected the first shot and was straight up opting to ram Novum Chaldea of existence. Luckily Olga saved us with Tachyon Jail which slowed time down for ORT and made us faster than it, yet it still was able to attack us whilst charging up a second shot of Excalibur and luckily Olga, with her entire spirit origin was able to decimate the entire body only for ORT to learn and summon itself. We were already beyond exhausted, had Kukulkan not intervened it would all be over. ORT at that point wasn’t in such a preservative mood but an enraged mood hellbent on killing us for actually getting in its way from getting its core back. Even after defeating its grand servant form which is weaker than, it straight up summoned itself again but as old as the universe causing that of a Paradox around it. That in itself shows why ORT of all things within the Typemoon world is referred as a Monster, An Ultimate One who flew in from the Oort cloud, but exists outside our Galaxy, it’s referred as a Planet Eater since coming to Earth and awaiting the promised time, it awaits the arrivals of all the other Ultimate Ones so it can obliterate and absorb them for its own gains.
Losing its Ultimate One body, ORT can no longer regain his heart. At this point, bro is just pissed Ritsuka and Novum Chaldea kept getting into his way. Shit got personal.
This lostbelt really goes with its title who will rule the palnet. Tezcatalipoca of the Aztecs who rules the present? Kukulkan of the Mayans/deionos who rules the future? Camatoz of the Ka'an who holds dear the past? Final defenders of the PHH(Proper Human history)fighting against their fate Or... An intergalactic invader,a star that signifies the end...a being that should never be faced...A devourer of worlds from the far reaches of the Cosmos... Edit:164 likes😮
@@user-zx34mgsi86 Bruh that's like saying People die if they are killed bro,PHH Pan Human History is a term they call for Proper Human history in Mistranslations.
@@raikoumybeloved78 Structure of a story being simple doesn't mean it is not insane. LB 7 is insane in different sense than LB 6. I can tell lot of 'simple' story which is more insane than most complexed one. the best example come into my mind is 'Chainsaw Man' and 'Berserk' as well but Chainsaw man especially.
And then ORT was all like: "By all means, try. Even at less than 1% of my real power, I'll still wipe you AND your entire arsenal out." And guess what? ORT would have done exactly that if Kukulkan hadn't jumped in to save us at the last second.
@@cameraredeye3115 Not really true since the only reason ORT was alive at that point was _because_ of Kukulkan. Without her ORT would have died after getting vaporized by the Hume-Barrel.
@@Otakumanu You do realize all Kukulkan had to do was nothing at all to help us, and ORT would have vaporized us, right? We had nothing left up our sleeve after Rayproof incinerated its original body. Kukulkan was under no obligation to help us either, since we were technically her enemies as well as ORT...
@@cameraredeye3115 And ORT was only alive at that point _because_ Kukulkan was also alive. This isn't meant to denigrate Kukulkan, who is an absolute sweetheart, it's just to point out that we only needed her help because she accidentally made things harder for us.
@Otakumanu What do you expect chaldea would've done about it? That core is even hotter than surtr's sword. It's not like they could do anything to destroy it, at least they would have needed more time to figure it out.
I, too, wish to summon on the ORT Gacha. I wonder if ORT needed SQ to summon itself... OK let's look at everything it took to beat LB ORT. - Camazotz immortality and a millenia+ long fight to finally snatch its core. - In a best case scenario, whittling it down with a minimum of 16 servants to deal with every phase. EDIT: Correction, every registered servant in Chaldea - Excalibur Blast combined with power of the ‘Alien God’ to destroy its body. - Its living core destroying its Grand Foreigner servant body, and erasing the Crystal Valley. So an immortal Bat God, every Chaldean servant, the power of Excalibur and the ‘Alien God’, and ORT itself to beat ORT. Beat, not kill. It can't die. Even then, after Bat God snatched the core, you're just fighting a crippled ORT. Monster. The fact it learnt how summoning worked and created its own FATE system to summon itself, just to not lose, is terrifying.
Even more scary to think about is the implication from the dialogue that "ORT may not have been the most powerful thing that Gaia's plea for help summoned to the Earth."
@@rzhecheah4114 Not really It really was as strong as the original Ort. The only difference is Immortal Batman Camazotz stole its core and that its own core decided to 1v1 it. You basically NEEDED ORT TO BEAT ORT oh yeah, and the extinction of the human race. That part was also important.
It's not as terrifying when you realize it only did that because it was still salty about Camazotz beating it earlier. Though it is incredibly impressive that Camazotz managed to essentially _humble_ ORT and make it realize it's not invincible.
You finally defeat type ort, after having been fought for 6 million years and weakend by having it's heart taken out, and throwing all the servants under your command at it, only to hear, "SUMMONING SERVANT, GRAND FOREIGNER"
This ORT and the 5th form of ORT which has a saintsgraph older than our UNIVERSE is still WEAKER than the original body ORT that is beaten by Ereshkigal alter (spider form) and got one shotted by Excalibur (UFO Form)
For real, ORT was the only entity to have truly beaten Chaldea while the latter was using its full power. We had absolutely no answer for its summoning. Even Fujimaru had pretty much given up and accepted death at that point...
I once said to a friend that the reason ORT summoned itself as Grand Foreigner was because it both gained the ability to because of all the servants it ate… but because it had gained sentience. And it’s first thought upon gaining conscious thought… is to kill us for stopping its main body. This theme reflects that to me, ORT has had enough. Just as it refused to die from everything, you did as well. By all logic, you should die from it. At this moment, In its limited thoughts, you are equal to it. Thus it must fight you this form as an attempt to beat you at your own game. Its limited consciousness wants to prove itself that it is the true ORT. And you will DIE against it. So fight on, Ritsuka, put an end to the Planet Eater, and realize in this moment, you are the one to kill (an albeit weaker) ORT.
I like this theory. I always figured that, if it had any sapience, it would be absolutely *PISSED OFF* at Ritsuka's refusal to die at this point. You just know ORT is running on 100% sheer spite - so the idea that it actually considered Ritsuka *its equal* in terms of refusing to quit is amazing.
@AustraliumMan sorry for the late reply spoiler: You see something is hatching from CHALDEAS that is going to destroy our universe basically so Daybit to save all of us tries to end us all so w can die in peace because this god from CHALDEAS will ruin everything
"From the depths of Space I come, My Brethren's Call I heed, I Rest in Eternity, waiting for 'The Day'. Mere Creature who have yet to reach the state of Finality, Gaia called to me, to cleanse the Plague that fest her Sanctuary, Yet still you persist... The Monster you vanquished... The Artifact you slew... The Soul you stole... And now... Here I stand... Finally... In a form you shall learn to fear... Ritsuka Fujimaru........whose suffering can never be understood.......... Allow me... To reward you................................................................. WITH A WARRIOR"S DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Grand Berserker was revealed to be us all along when ORT turnt itself into a Yu-Gi-Oh super monster and had us go "Draw! Servant Card!" just to hope to stand a chance before our Data fully depletes.
@@azaangeorge9552 I do not know, the theme reminded me of that one melody you hear during that Berserker Soul moment, and his front illustration looked like it could totally fit in a Yugioh card. (Look, this is totally not a coping mechanism to lower the fear ORT can install in me, okay? Lol)
@Aria Lavinde Yeah sure. I mean there's nothing wrong with an unstoppable creature that's not even a god, the planets very own nuke, a godlike being from outer space, an army of servants which makes it look like a reenactment of the temple of time could stop and from what I understand from translation make fighting the likes of darkseid and thanos easier to kill( before anyone says anything. I've never read a comic, they sell any where I am from, I'm going off movies and analysis videos). Yep nothing at all
@@rebeccalotto8001 Except it would be a Cosmic Immortal with even more bullshit mechanics than the Earthbound Immortals during their reign of terror in 5D's...
The giant spider form is scary af but this one is like goetia size and I dont want to be in front of it at all. also make him summonable he looks absolutely awesome
Yeah, this little bastard would have killed us all with a cosmic radiation blast if it wasn't for Kukulkan. And that's even taking the conceptual defenses of Mold Camelot AND Fujimaru's spacesuit into consideration...
This isn't an imitation ORT, it's just that LB ORT was weakened when Camazotz stole its heart. If it had the heart it would be exactly the same as PHH.
@@kromysol2189 That was a mistranlation. Originally, LB ORT was as strong as PHH ORT but Camazotz beated it and stole its heart so it became weaker (hence the word sub-specie was used to describe LB ORT after its heart was stolen). The first goal when LB ORT awakened in the story was to get its heart back to get to full power. It said in the story that if LB ORT got its heart back then there's nothing that can be done to kill it.
Weep and despair. You face not just a Servant nor merely a 'God'. What stands before you is the apex existence of the Oort Cloud. A being beyond our very solar system and understanding. That which can never be defeated in this era. You face an *ULTIMATE ONE* .
Honestly, this whole Lostbelt reminds me of Shin Ultraman, especially the battle against ORT. ORT is basically Zetton, a alien force called upon to wipe out humanity and they can’t do anything against it. Kukulkan is Ultraman, an alien related in someway to the opposing one that grows to appreciate and genuine care for humanity and chooses to stand against and defeat the opposing one and the cost of their own life. Edit: 69 likes, huh? Nice….
@@shoneboot3128 "Also off topic, but many of the designs we requested from Mr. PFALZ that he has humorously compiled appear in this book. W-We’re no match! It truly is an unidentified flying object. It truly is the strongest attack-type life form. It truly brings excellent design to another level. I mean, not even Arc would win against this thing! S-Someone go find Ultraman!"(Character Material)
@@siliriusred4594 An Ultra battling ORT would definitely been worthy of a series final battle. Two opposing alien forces against one another. One holding no malice towards humanity, but must destroy them as requested by the will of the planet. The other, despite being treated with hostility by humanity and the planet, goes out of their way to fight for their future because of the kindness of a few. It’s a battle between one who’s caller only fears humans outliving it, not seeing what the race born from its surface can truly become, against one who believes humanity, seeing their kindness and unlimited potential, can become something more just like it.
Goddamn, ORT has proven to be every bit the menace that Notes hyped him up to be 22 years ago, and at just a tiny fraction of its true power to boot. But I bet nobody reading Notes back then would have expected it to manifest as Grand Foreigner ORT Xibalba today... What an incredible final boss for the Lostbelt arc as a whole. This theme doesn't do it justice, and it's already better than almost anything I've heard in this game...
He wasn't even mentioned in Notes, he was first mentioned in Tsukihime (5th of DAA), then in Ataraxia (The Spider). All his abilities and design are taken from Fate Character Materials 2006.
"K, you managed to beat my smurf accounts, which means I'll acknowledge you as a worthy opponent Brb, I'm bringing in my main account" - This entire fight in a nutshell Sidenote: I strongly reccomend you all to keep an eye on the protagonist's face during the whole battle. It goes from "calm, yet serious" to "shitting bricks at 1000 km p/h" in less than five minutes
Ah, I interpreted it as Ritsuka getting more and more frustrated as the fight goes on, ending with them being pissed on how brazil's spider refuses to stay in the forever box
@@heehooobsessor7907 It's that plus "Exhaustion EX" (my fanmade term for how tired Fujimaru is). Remember, in the story you're throwing EVERY LAST SERVANT in your arsenal at the thing to try and beat it. And it's still not enough. As your hand turns black from extreme necrosis, ORT continues to advance toward the sun which is its heart. If it ever reclaimed that, it was game over for humanity...
@@cameraredeye3115 Extreme NECROSIS!? Holy shit, I guess Fujimaru is gonna get his fricking hand amputated before the next part of the story arrives. Or how are they supposed to miraculously recover their hand from something like that???
I always found the most scary aspect of ORT to be just how inhuman it is. Even in this form, where it appears vaguely humanoid, it never makes a single sound. It is dead silent, save for when it's vaporizing us with its attacks. And not only that, it ostensibly has no motives, its actions seem to just be basic instincts at work, i.e prioritizing reaching its core, passively transforming its surroundings. We have no idea what its actually thinking.
It's actually thinking, "I want to live", "I don't want to die", "Get out of my way", "Leave me alone", etc... It shows from its actions. And, also, the other thing is that ORT is implied to be super intelligent despite it's very basic and understandable actions and reasoning.
No here In Its weaker servant form It’s pretty beyond furious at us, and simply wants us-Chaldea dead completely for getting In Its way. Hell Its an Ultimate One so It has ALL the rights to be pissed the fuck off at us
@@Gareth-daupsetpuppy No, that's wrong. It was explicitly said that ORT did not create its Servant form to fight against us. It was about preserving the Lostbelt and its own life. We were merely a parasite it had to surgically remove, and he performed that operation out of fear and the desire to live. That was all there ever was to it for him. Surviving.
@@Ohimeshinso What? Fear? Desire to live? ORT already had its core removed from it by this point. Death wasn't an issue for it, so it doesn't want to survive. It just wanted its core back and we were in the way.
Mash: “A letter for you Fujimaru.” Ritsuka: “What do you mean? We don’t get mail?” (Opens the letter) “Mr. Fujimaru. Congratulations on destroying all 7 Lostbelts and achieving the impossible, defeating a version of an Ultimate One, despite it being weaker than the real thing. However this is not a criticism merely an observation of mine. I await to see what you will do next. I will be watching you with great interest.” Signed, Kaleidoscope.
I heard that this was only possible because Ort creates its own summon system and simulates a future of humanity where it can qualify as a servant, if that's so I want to see that future. under what kind of circumstances people could end worshiping it as a heroic spirit? 🤔
A timeline where humans aren't the biggest threat to the planet according to Gaia? Let's say some very overpowered aliens or even the Old Ones decide they want the whole solar system to themselves. At that point, asking them to kindly piss off ain't gonna work. It's established in the Type-Moon verse that the planets themselves have a will of their own, thus I reckon they can have champions much like humans.
they did worship him in aztec civilization as the one who causes the destruction of world. that's why they sacrifice human in nasuverse. same is true with camazotz, he need sacrifices to stop ORT.
They had to, or it would wipe out humanity in the blink of an eye after reclaiming its heart. Think of it like Sauron trying to reclaim the One Ring, except it's the FGO edition...
At least they beat up a Grand Foreigner version of a TYPE in direct combat without any Deus Ex Machina/desperate measure (even before they knew it could infinitely respawn). THAT is an incredibly huge feat, despite ORT being nerfed in that form. No wonder the Mage Association was so scared of Chaldea, especially Ritsuka Fujimaru. They’re basically a Shin Megami Tensei protagonist.
"Grand" Servant is the biggest container that can be provided by the summon system, ORT made its own summon system and force it provide the same scale of the "Grand" servant. However, it's not really "Grand" since it's not for the humanity.
Its also like way stronger than a normal grand its just that the system he copied (The throne of heroes) cant make a vessel stronger than that so he got a grand vessel with the highest stats possible
This theme is a remix of the Ultimate Ones theme in Notes. Therefore, the clumsy V/V if ever added to FGO, would also have this theme. The girl who can’t play a guitar.
@@HachannEinzbern it was made by a company for Notes iirc, I don’t know the full details, but this theme is a remix of an official theme for Notes probably commissioned by Nasu.
@@ozzboom9907 It was made by a group called Wave; pretty sure it's fanmade-- but that makes this track 10x cooler, cause it is indeed a remix of their "Ultimate One" track. Essentially a really cool easter egg acknowledging and thanking the oldest fans of the entire series.
@@AceDiethel heavy spoilers To awake Ort and destroy the planet, as it was safer and a better ending than the planet itself becoming the enemy of the universe if the "Alien God", AKA Marisbury, succeed with his plan
@@hhhicco I prefer to know and then piece it on how it happens in the plot… hahahah. but also Im sorry what!? Spoiler theory: So did Marisbury actually want the Alien God to be there!? And to expend his daughter as a vessel for the Alien God, like did that even factor in or not I wonder.
@@thebakalord People gotta think back as to why that scene, Daybit pointing the gun at Marisbilly only for him to ‘kill’ himself and never show up again. Daybit truly was onto something, and I’d say he did what he could even up to now
And remember, this ORT died only because of specific circumstances. Circumstances that cannot happen in PHH. Yeah. Better invest in Requiem/Servant Universe worlds.
@@kevinnac1 Eh...I mean...if the whole of humanity (or about 1 billion people, not sure if it has to be the whole or just around that number) commits a mass sacrifice...that's kind of an option.
@@goldenbrigain7031 I Mean the Better Option would be to Flee to The Servant Universe and Use Astarte Help,After all she is kinda The Type Milk way,But Ort would have to be There,and how in the world would we get him there
Okay so I have a tin foil hat theory. ORT hacked the Fate summoning system in order to add a Grand Foreigner seat to the Throne of Heroes for him. The thing is, to manifest properly, he needed a threat to humanity to destroy. Since he hijacked the system, he probably could basically designate anything as a threat to humanity in order to summon himself at their location and "deal with them". I think he simply designated us as threats to humanity in order to manifest, but the thing is, if the damage he dealt to the Throne by hijacking the system is irreversible, then that means two things: First, there is now a Grand Foreigner spot to be filled ( which is a whole other matter ), but second and most importantly, this might be the reason we can't get into Antarctica anymore. My point is, orange-eyed Romani lied to us by telling us that we were just using too many extra classes, and the truth is that the entire Storm Border crew is permanently considered a threat to humanity by the Throne, and by extension the Human Order barrier around Chaldea's old base is repelling us, like it would repel a fully powered Yang Guifei, Abigail or Hokusai. ORT is responsible for the entire Ordeal Call, which is meaningless in the first place. Now I'm just gonna wait for this comment to age horribly and laugh at how wrong I was lmao
It could be that U-Olga was a Beast (supposedly) that ORT could be summoned as Grand Foreigner. Grand Servants are summoned in response to Beasts after all, and Chaldea might've been considered allies of a Beast, so ORT might've exploted that.
Even if this ages horribly, this is a reasonable theory, but if ORT hacked through and created his own throne of heros, why would he limit himself with these rules, can't he just summon himself just because he can?
@@danielhong6908 Because ORTs Assimilation doesn't give him a complete understanding. This was actually something stated in supplementary materials but the Ultimate Ones save for Brunestud and Venus can't understand Humanity fully. They can mimic us but understanding is something they can't do. Venus was only able too because she is parasitic and Brunestud is supposedly similar enough to us that he could get a basic idea.
Technically he could very much be the definition of a biblical angel since there is no "angelic" or "demonic" lifeforms in the pure term, these words are used to describe something coming from space in the Type Moon Universe. Thus ORT kinda looks like an Angel in Type Moon terms.
ORT is called One Radiant Thing, so it may be a straight up angel given it's older than the universe. Hell, Daybit could converse with 'Angels' that were higher-dimensional things from before the universe existed, and it was them advising him to use ORT to destroy CHALDEAS. The things also classed as threats to humanity. It's very possible that ORT is an allusion to Lucifer given how Lostbelt 7 was 9 rings with ORT at the bottom, much like Dante's Inferno having 9 circles with Satan trapped at the bottom in the ice of Cocytus.
@@Breadwalker765 It's not entirely clear what angels are, but apparently there is such a thing as "true demons", those being demons that were created directly by God. Nasu also said once that "primordial demons" were amongst the three strongest things in the Nasuverse, so who knows. All other info refers to ORT as the Ultimate One of the Oort Cloud so I don't know if it can be classed as either an angel or a demon.
@@AdHocWholius Problem is, the exoanthropic angels that Daybit talks to clearly have some kind of intelligence and willpower, whereas ORT seemingly just operates on orders. The Dark Star things he summons also don't resemble ORT, being cloud things whereas ORT resembles a machine. Also what's the deal with ORT now being older than the universe? What I got from what Trismegistus said was that ORT was manipulating space-time after hacking the Throne of Heroes (which exists partially outside of time), not that it was actually that old.
@@Otakumanu It’s older than the _observable_ universe. That detail is important. The observable universe (the part of the universe we have managed to see, even if it’s just glimpses) is said to be around 13 billion years old. The actual universe is older than the observable one and so is ORT.
Shirou: Fighting that guy Gilgamesh is giving me too much anxiety! He is such a meanie and keeps trying to steal Saber! *Meanwhile on FGO* Mashu: Mastah, time for more horrors beyond our comprehension Fujimaru: Sweet. * x1 SQ gained*
Now Chaldea knows how ridiculously OP ORT actually is even at it's weakest form, bet they won't try waking up the real deal in PHH.😂😅 What a cracked asf extraterrestrial entity.
@@WildArtistsl That's a theory and this story already translated from a legit app. So in conclusion. We are only dealing ORT here and nobody else. The fact there still people continued on this false statement eludes me. No Type-Mercury, only ORT...
@@pranavshinde4472 Of course it's Nasu since he is the one who design and concept about ORT and the Ultimate Ones. Take it from a guy that went deeper than a submarines when it comes to eldritch horrors and existential threats.
spoiler: >We are the bad guys all along. Doman, Muramasa, Rasputin, Holmes, Moriarty, and someone who's called "the Count" are all behind the actual Alien God (it's Marisbury, who would have thought) and serving as their apostles, even U-Orga Marie is merely a pawn and not the real Alien God. The reason why some of them are helping us is because the Alien God needs us to clear the obstacles (in this case, the 7th Lostbelt) for them to execute whatever is going to happen next. >Daybit wanted to use ORT to destroy the earth for good, so the Alien God and whatever is hiding inside the "Chaldea" globe in south pole won't come out and cause an universe-level menace. >Now that both ORT and Daybit are defeated, we have to deal with the actual Alien God, find out what's inside Chaldea and end it once for all. God damn it I can't wait to see what's going to happen next.
It's obvious there was a connection via the Sirius Light. Was he the Alien God from the start? As for the lostbelts, I believe their endgame is something that will allow him to merge all timelines aka worlds, but such a thing will exhaust the universe and endanger it.
The chorus are saying Aristoteraseu or in English Aristotles the name given to the ultimate ones in by humans in notes. Fun fact:The translation in Greece states it "The Ultimate End".
@@flamescion8552 In Typemoon Human Imagination gives strength to Mystics,The Ultimate Ones were so Powerful That Human Imagination thought of One thing,"is this the End?" This Ultimately makes them especially Ort,The Very Embodiment of the Concept of Extinction.
@@flamescion8552 The most mind blowing fact here is that Ort isn't even the most dangerous being in Typemoon Universe. That Title belongs to none other than The Abyssal Insect/Oberon-Vortigen. Ort may be the Embodiment of the Concept of Extinction,Extinction itself is a Part of a Cycle. First it's Birth,then Its the Cycle of life then Chaos(as in Confluct.) and in the end Extinction but Somehow Life Founds a Way to Come back in one form or other. Oberon-Vortigen is the very Embodiment of "The End",A Creature that Devours everything with its Fangs into a Hollow Esophagus shaped into the Form of a Dragon,an Insect that shouldn't even be touched upon reality,Why??? Because it destroys the very form of Existence itself by solely Existing. The Most Dangerous thing about it is the fact that absolutely no one knew about It except that Cursed Protector of Faes and his Priestess. That too because he let them knew he was Coming,I guarantee you that not even Archtype Earth or Goku nor Zeno do anything about it,Why? Because not even the Counterforce knew of him. The Counterforce has 70-80% of its Power to keep Ort Sleeping and has Strength to even Fend off Chaos.its only motive and Goal is to Survive as long as Possible,for this Counterforce has prepared all sorts of Countermeasures except Oberon-Vortigen because it really didn't had anything in prepared against him. Back on Goku stuff,cough* cough*. Basically,Abyssal Insect or Oberon Devour Reality just by existing,its more like The world itself is falling in to the Abyss of the Hollow Dragon Fly.
@@pranavshinde4472where in the hell did you get that from? You like to pull things straight out of your ass don’t you? ORT is explicitly the strongest thing in Typemoon World, no, the Nasuverse. Oberon Vortigern is NOTHING to a being that is an Ultimate One, a Literal Planet Eater, a representation of a Star of the End, the true Endgame of the Nasuverse that which is ORT, Chaos is jackshit, it ain’t even the size of the literal Oort cloud, Shiki having a connection to the root means nothing, and the literal Concept of Death isn’t something that is useful or even effective against an Ultimate One such as ORT. It’s literally the only being capable of actually destroying the Earth, Oberons wyrm would merely eat away at the uttermost layer that is mainly just Humanity as it cannot threaten the world or else Gaia’s gonna pull Archetype out and put the Wyrm in its place.
Murdering the biggest threat on type-moon using the biggest clown in FGO is nothing short of the Highest of High! Even if it costs some blue cube, CS, and SQ.
I mean Chaldea won by the skin of their teeth, with the most favorable circumstances possible, against a significantly weakened ORT. There is no doubt that if they had to go against the PHH one they would just instantly die. Zero chance.
@@JTHMRulez1 Even with those circumstances, we had exactly zero chance without Kukulcan helping us. She and Camazotz made ORT's defeat possible to begin with...
@@cameraredeye3115 Yeah I included Camazotz and Kulkulkan as the "favorable circumstances." Since they are stuff tied to the Lostbelt (hence circumstancial) that could not be repeated with PHH ORT
This have always been the plot formula of FGO all the way back since Singularity 6-7. Everyone (lancuria, tiamat, goetia?, godjuna, zeus) have to scale down to be beatable before facing the actual showdown. The Ultimate one may be an exception to this rule considering how invincible they are as we know pre-lb7. they'll probably just end up "still too strong to be defeatable" even after a nerf. But after a long gruelling fight worth of 23+ million of hp against canonly 300+ chaldean ghostliners, even The ultimate one are not an exception to chaldea's preptime (camazotz and Kukulkan). That and we finally see the gruelling fight and defeat of an ultimate one on-screen. That's what i mean by post ultimate ome hype era. Since now its proven that even ultimate ones were beatable with preptime even if your name aint zelretch or gungod, or A-rays or six sisters etc etc.
@@jacksimpson8529 Seeing how overpowered the Lostbelt ORT is despite being the weaker version it still can erase all the previous Lostbelt Kings like it was nothing lmao so let's try not to talk about the PHH ORT, the actual spider has no weaknesses at all. Zelretch was right, we're not ready for that Cosmic Horror Spider yet or else Gil & Enkidu and that crazy asf Dead Apostle will regret their lives for trying to wake PHH ORT up.
Really wish Nasu would go back and explore Notes or at least fully being the Ultimates Ones to Fate. Maybe the Earth finally gets sick of all the shit between Goetia and the Foreign God bleaching it and sends its call to the planets to finally come and rid it of humanity.
Reason why your videos is so popular quite simple: you have background for BGM that no one has. Sometimes I prefer your videos over my audio player on PC to put ur video in fullscreen on another monitor. Keep it up, lad!
@@cameraredeye3115 Only because ORT can't scale itself up to deal with BEAST with unlimited guts during the era they fight. Imagine if ORT managed to snatch up King Hassan or any divine spirits that can deal with immortality, badass bat be stomped if so.
Ohhh boy, can't wait to have ORT itself be a summonable thing. That's gonna be something real special for sure. You don't just tease us with ORT turning itself into a servant without making it summonable too.
Man the amount of hype that i got when i discovered it!!! But then as a spit to a face comes the kuku twist that lowerd the chances of actual ORT being summonable... As fast as i got hyped, as fast i got disappointed...
@@alonelyperson6031 same, as long as there is a little chance i will still hope, and cause they gave a reasoninng for actually being able to summon ORT at some point, it would be stupid if they wouldn't use it to make ORT playable
@@kemonodono335 they already ruined it by making some random woman with mid design being basically him, might as well give the main dish and not that flavor substitute
I wonder what'll happen if lostbelt ort would've gotten out of the lostbelt with kukulkan as a core once again, will it fight the real ort, or would real ort assimilate it into itself effectively doubling their power. Maybe they'd even brawl together and eat whoever loses cause technically phh ort would not be the ultimate one, rather an archetype if lostbelt ort got out.
@ABCZ ZC Don't get why PHH ORT would want to fight CHALDEAS. PHH ORT's sole purpose where he is is just wait until the prophesized end times and wipe out humanity. A theoretical Lostbelt ORT with Kukulkan reassimilated could join in the fight against CHALDEAS assuming Kukulkan somehow became its main personaltiy. If not, it would be much the same as PHH ORT if not worse, given Lostbelt ORT was actually pissed off in its timeline as opposed to PHH ORT still sleeping.
The Lostbelt one will just fade into its counterpart. Their both incarnations of the Will of the Oort Cloud and in close proximity will likely get subsumed into the other.
You knew to defeat Ort they kinda putt two concept of death by Beni on Ort itself, and by Dino by defied Kukulkan(Ort heart) as sun a star that surely will die someday(maybe Black barrel is effective to Kuku?).
The true Enemy of humanity. A complete alien creature that is tasked to destroy earth. We may fought some heroic spirits from earth lore and myths. But compare to this. Its is not even recorded in any history on earth comes stronger than any of our history, a single being that needs multiple cooperation of humanity (and some help from 'itself") to be 'beat' lol true the strongest enemy we could ask for
More than that, there was two humanities helping defeat it. Since Camazotz was being powered up by LB7's humanity, and he was the one who nerfed ORT by stealing it's heart. And that also gave us Kukulkan.
@@vietle8900 why does everyone spoil s*** online I already know she's Orin I don't really care I'm hoping for him instead of her plus he summon them self in the grand Foreigner class so there's a chance he could be summoned
Same, but cause of kukulkan, chances for him being summonable are lower now which is really sad and basically its a wasted potential, i was devastated because of it ngl, still holding hope tho that one day we will be able to summon actual ORT and not whatever the hell we got
There's not too many exceedingly difficult fights tbh. Definitely none at or above the level of Cernunnos. Here are the main notable fights: Tlaloc (second battle, has a gimmick that stuns anybody that doesn't float) Izcalli & Co. (you fight them several times) Kingprotea Alter (gotta shrink her down to size, obviously) Beni-Enma Alter (attacks can instantly kill on hit; gotta be careful) "Beast I" Camazotz (you're limited to 2 skills per turn; any more in a turn and he subjects you to an instakill gimmick) ORT (the first and only mandatory storyline raid boss in the game; you gotta power past it yourself, with no help from friends. Servants that die during the raid cannot be used again until you clear the last big spider phase with 3M HP. The good news is, you can reset the raid and try again if you mess up, and there's no time limit or turn limit) ORT Xibalba (pictured above; isn't too bad until you hit the last bar, and then it hits your Servants with Forced Exit until you have only one left; this Servant must finish the battle without help from Command Spells) Tezcatlipoca (the true final battle of LB7; has an NP DPS check gimmick that activates when his HP drops to 0, and if you fail, you lose and have to restart the fight)
@@defnotjam it's actually pretty easy, the raid part gives you some damage buffs that allow servants to solo one of his hp bars pretty easily as long as they are properly levelled up, else you will need 2 servants, 3 if somehow the second one isn't able to clear it. ORT Xibalba may seen menancing at first, but Kukulcan makes your team take way too little damage and when she uses her NP it can easily break one of his hp bar. The last HP bar is more of a victory lap, since every time one of your servants is Forced Exit or dies it buffs the rest of the characters, so your last servant can be the worst character in the game and it will be able to deal with it.
@@defnotjam Forgot to add one fight to the mix: the one against Daybit and his crew of Shadow Foreigners in Chapter 19. Each of those shadows has 3 bars with some nasty Break mechanics (like buff removal on first break), and you're forced to bring U-Olga and Mash to the fight. Not only that, but the number of shadows you have to fight is equal to your starting party size when the fight begins. They can also attack up to 6 times a turn, and Daybit will also be giving them various buffs throughout the first 6 turns of the fight. Needless to say, your options for fighting them are very limited. If you don't have a Foreigner or Alter Ego with an AOE NP, good luck.
I hope part 3 of fgo, if it is a serious story, if it does happen instead of like, a remake or reboot of part 1 or some other thing, that it doesn't power scale higher than this, rather keep ORT as the worst enemy our gang ever faces in their lives
ORT has been hyped for decades now as the strongest thing on Earth ever since it was first mentioned it was hybernating in South America, hard to believe they'd just top that out of nowhere
@@elijahmanaghaya6038ORT got the signal waaay before the other Ultimate Ones though, no one else that gets called by Gaia has even gotten the signal yet in FGO timeline, it'll be a very long time before they arrive on Earth
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ORT give fake CV to throne of heroes:
I am hero, trust me.
Alaya: Okay, I believe you.
@@imortal333 i can read that in a text to speech voice
I can imagine tired and overworked Alaya just skip parts because they still have lots of candidate to interview "blablablabla defeat Chaldea, ok approved, NEXT"
It's more like this -
Counter Force: Do you have any confirmation that you are eligible in the Throne of Heroes?
ORT: I have my certificates and college degrees sir/mam.
Counter Force: You're hired!
Sir Counterforce you may not believe me but I am The Grand Foreginer - ORT XIBALBA
"I faced many challenges in the past, but this THING is a monster like no other!"
-Guda dialogue choice
Ort: have you seen me as a servant?
Chaldea: no
Ort xibabla: would you like to?
The rest of the players: Yes.
@@Daybit97
Human, Aalaya and Heroic Servant : ORT NO!!!
Planet and jester : ORT YESS!
Three Principles of Monsters:
1. the monster must not speak
2. the monster must be unidentifiable
3. the monster must be immortal
"HA, YOU THOUGHT I DIED!?
Well, I did, but I'm back."
"I thought you died!"
"Unfortunately, yes..."
*"BUT I LIVED!"*
Chaldea: People die when they are killed!
Ort: Observe.
Ort: Just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right!
ORT: what is die? is it a fruit?
because aristoteles like ORT are foreign to the concept of death.
@@StandardBuster
ORT would 100% eat death and suddenly Crystal Valley kills people by virtue of you saw it
@@StandardBuster Ado Edem: observe
@@danielhong6908 Not really, Ado Adem can’t kill TYPEs, he also had a ridiculous attribute advantage on the TYPE’s he fought. V/V and Gun God think the battle against The Aristoteles in the Land of Steel is hopeless specifically because the TYPE’s will eventually just come back.
The only reason Mictlan ORT was even pushed to the point of Replica Summoning System is because Beni-enma Alter used Azrael on it.
TL;DR
ORT: What is this [Death] you speak of?
Beni-Enma Alt.: “Azrael” *shoves [Death] down ORT’s throat*
ORT: Alright Fair, but counterpoint-
U-Olga + Chaldea: *Obliterates ORT with Hume-barrel Rayproof*
One Radiance Thing: -I don’t feel like it
The fact that it took this much effort to even *kill* ORT at what is pretty much a fraction of its full power really puts things into perspective.
And to add insult to the injury it wasn't killed more like rebooted to a new body in its respective inner sea of planet.
Also this is the weakest ORT among trillions if not quadrillion of fractured Timelines.A sub species at that.
@pranavshinde4472 Exactly.
How they let you fight and defeat ORT while still paying respect to his "secret unbeatable superboss" status in canon was pulled off masterfully.
If this is ORT at a tiny fraction of its true power, I literally cannot see how humanity would even defeat ORT in PHH, especially considering that its capabilities in LB7 means that the Counter Force, traditional weaponry, literally anything and everything that Alaya could throw at it wouldn't even so much as put a scratch on it.
@@anhilliator1 and to add more insult to injury,he wasn't the strongest guy Gaia called upon.
@@pranavshinde4472o u just misunderstood the thing
it said "not the strongest one", not "not the strongest Strongest One"
meaning that Gaia summoned multiple "Strongest One" aka Ultimate Ones, not ORT (not) being the strongest
i dont think theres a scaling between Types actually, only Type Moon getting ranked down to satellite rank thx to AAA dialogue with Arc on the recent summer event
You ever just summon yourself as a Servant with a Saint Graph of a Grand?
Wait, so ORT managed to actually become legit grand foreigner?
@@abeevergreen4947 yup even managed to make his own summon engine too
Bro really said "I make the rules."
I AM THE RULE
@@abeevergreen4947
Yeah, like how Qin Shi Huang in the LB was a being essentially at the level of a Grand.
ORT's biggest weakness is that it lacks creative thinking.
Unfortunately for Chaldea, the method they used to beat it gave it the ability to *learn.*
Horrifyingly so. It used what carried Chaldea so far against it as a Grand in a class that shouldn’t even be in the Grand Class
we fed it data on the throne of heroes, the abomination of a saint graph that we see now is the result of this mistake
and after that it caused a paradox due to existing as long as the Big Bang or right before the Big Bang happened… yea it caused a Paradox, what other damned being in Typemoon World can cause a Paradox like that?!!
The thing that makes me shudders is what's written in its character materials.
" It is able to partially simulate the creatures it preys upon, allowing it to potentially mimic Human speech if it devours a human. It cannot actually learn the culture of Earth, so it would simply remain as an imitation, unlike V/V (Type Venus)"
This thing doesn't understand the throne. What it's doing right now is equivalent to a foreigner saying "Arigato" and "Daisuki" after hearing it several times from japanese without context to what it actually entails.
It's not sapient iirc. Kukul has sentience because of the malla.
The thing is it was able to summon itself as a Grand servant, the Throne of Heroes' trump card. It is equivalent to speaking fluent Japanese without understanding what it itself saying.
in other words like a computer
@@thethessaliah it is sentient. Its mindset is closer to Gaia's own Sentience and Gaia thought process is Alien to humans own despite being the Planet that spawned them.
But what if it consumes enough humans and/or human concepts? Would communication with it finally be possible?
ORT is the personification of the term "That's not a thing? Well it is now!!"
my throne of heroes would beat up your throne of heroes
"I made it the fuck up!"
I like to imagine that when ORT summoned itself back to life it pointed directly at Ritsuka and said, ‘I’m not done yet, I hate you too much to die here.”
Sounds too familiar to Goetia's last stand. In fact it's a direct callback to that moment in FGO....
Still too humanized for ORT. In actuality probably something along the lines of "Huh. That was easy."
At that point ORT had nothing more it could do, creating a servant version of itself and summoning it was basically a last ditch attempt to defeat the protagonist.
@@Otakumanu Amazingly, it would have worked if not for Kukulcan jumping in when she did. A second later and we were goners, since we literally spent everything we had in-story just to beat its big spider/UFO body and then it pulls THIS move on us...
And it's on power-saving mode the whole time, to boot.
@@cameraredeye3115 The entire fight is pretty awesome for ORT. It starts the fight crippled, gets more permanent damage as it goes on, but it just refuses to give up, even after it's original objective becomes impossible.
The entity is literally “I make the rule here”
Managed to summon itself as a Grand Servant and create its own summoning system
It didn't create its own summon system, it hacked into the one already available and used the Fantasy Tree's simulation abilities plus the Servant summoning data it assimilated to force feed the Throne of Heroes a simulated timeline of itself as a Servant that the Throne would accept.
@@jacksimpson8529I don't care enough to reread anything for this, but I don't remember anything about this.
I'm pretty sure what it actually did was the Servantverse thing. It materialized its soul into the world, manifesting as a Servant, because it developed a good enough understanding of servants and how they operate to reverse engineer it and manifest as a "True Heroic Spirit" independently of the Throne of Heroes.
The only reason it's designated as "Grand Foreigner" is because that was the best designation we could give. But really, I suspect this so-called "Grand Foreigner" doesn't have a class.
At least, that's how I've understood it this whole time. Where did you get yours? What's the source?
@@Ohimeshinso _"That's a nice argument, Senator, but why don't you back it up with a _*_source?"_*
"My source is that I *made it the fuck up."*
Sorry, I couldn't resist. 😅
@@MrDibara haha
Notice that ORT's final gauge break skill is named "Chaldea: the One Who Defies Impossibilities."
Are we getting secretly complimented by the all-consuming alien entity who, according to source materials, can't even talk or think like humans do?
It was once said that if ORT consumed a human they would learn to speak But it would be like a parrot repeating what the humans around it say He would not really understand our way of thinking since the assimilation of ORT prevents him from acquiring foreign concepts Unlike other types with the same ability such as type venus
More like respecting a worthy enemy
ORT copies what it eats. It ate Chaldea’s Servants and copied our determination.
I think at this point ORT has seriously considered Chaldea as a fearful force. As the Ultimate One, ORT is the pinnacle creature, and current humanity shouldn't have the strength to face it directly at all. But Chaldea cornered it into summoning itself as a Servant to survive, which vastly downgrades its true power. Chaldea is no longer a prey but an enemy it should destroy at all cost once it gets its core back.
@@tatinh9885 to my understanding ORT doesn’t possess a human intelligence. While it can mimic it, its own rational to too alien because it literally is. That said it should still have something close to survival instincts to see a threat
Aristotle - Ultimate One finally got a remix after more than a decade. This is really wild.
Aristoteles not Alexander the Great mentor Aristotle 😂
@@rogueascendant6611 Same thing... 😅
In 4 the official track title is "Aristotele ~Ultimate One~" in the FGO room...
@@cameraredeye3115 nah they wouldn't just rip it out like that
theres always gonna be a "-FGO-" or "-FGO ver-" with it
im surprised you remembered after 2 years
This is it.
We’ve slain the Spider of the Oort Cloud, preventing it from destroying our world.
But ORT had consumed many of our Servants and has learned the summoning system to summon them.
This was its final spite.
Descending now from its own fictional story, a Grand Foreigner appears in an aurora of destruction.
With the Lostbelt King aiding us, we confront the one known as ORT Xibalba in one last Grand Battle.
Humanity will be the one who rules the planet!
While ORT thought and feelings are very alien/ far from human emotion, I believe this is as close as it is to feel anger
@@r3dr4te963damn straight! We threw everything we had to prevent it from getting its heart. It prioritize its own preservation over anything else and it decided we needed to go and summon this thing for killing it.
@@Tyztube21throwing everything at it only to ignore it since attacking ORT is more like us being a nuisance it ignored until we blasted Hume Barrel Ray Proof aka Full powered Excalibur given by Artoria Avalon herself, ORT deflected the first shot and was straight up opting to ram Novum Chaldea of existence. Luckily Olga saved us with Tachyon Jail which slowed time down for ORT and made us faster than it, yet it still was able to attack us whilst charging up a second shot of Excalibur and luckily Olga, with her entire spirit origin was able to decimate the entire body only for ORT to learn and summon itself.
We were already beyond exhausted, had Kukulkan not intervened it would all be over. ORT at that point wasn’t in such a preservative mood but an enraged mood hellbent on killing us for actually getting in its way from getting its core back. Even after defeating its grand servant form which is weaker than, it straight up summoned itself again but as old as the universe causing that of a Paradox around it. That in itself shows why ORT of all things within the Typemoon world is referred as a Monster, An Ultimate One who flew in from the Oort cloud, but exists outside our Galaxy, it’s referred as a Planet Eater since coming to Earth and awaiting the promised time, it awaits the arrivals of all the other Ultimate Ones so it can obliterate and absorb them for its own gains.
"Okay, I know this is Filthy Rich coming from me, BUT YOUR POWERS ARE BULLSHIT!"
-Gilgamesh
"Wire you getting so upset?"
-ORT Xiabalba
Losing its Ultimate One body, ORT can no longer regain his heart. At this point, bro is just pissed Ritsuka and Novum Chaldea kept getting into his way. Shit got personal.
This lostbelt really goes with its title who will rule the palnet.
Tezcatalipoca of the Aztecs who rules the present?
Kukulkan of the Mayans/deionos who rules the future?
Camatoz of the Ka'an who holds dear the past?
Final defenders of the PHH(Proper Human history)fighting against their fate
Or...
An intergalactic invader,a star that signifies the end...a being that should never be faced...A devourer of worlds from the far reaches of the Cosmos...
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I thought PHH meant Pan-Human History in the TM universe
@@user-zx34mgsi86 Bruh that's like saying People die if they are killed bro,PHH Pan Human History is a term they call for Proper Human history in Mistranslations.
Chaldea: We did it. Why do I *Still* hear Final Boss music?
ORT: This isn't even my Final form bro.
Chaldea: Ah S#!t. Here we go again.
The equivalent of hearing "One Winged Angel" after defeating Bizarro Sephiroth.
Honestly more like
"You think I'm dead just because you killed my final form? I'll let you know,
I DON'T HAVE A FINAL FORM."
"A simple story"
- Nasu
I mean, in the end it's simple. It's just that the stakes are SO HIGH you forget how easy it is.
Compared to LB6, this is rather "simple"
This is clearly simple, there are no politics like LB 6.
In the end, Nasu was right.
After all this, I'm still thinking that LB6 was more insane
.
@@raikoumybeloved78 Structure of a story being simple doesn't mean it is not insane. LB 7 is insane in different sense than LB 6. I can tell lot of 'simple' story which is more insane than most complexed one. the best example come into my mind is 'Chainsaw Man' and 'Berserk' as well but Chainsaw man especially.
Gotta appreciate the commitment of the Chaldea crew, to constantly look at god-like beings and actual gods and say "I bet we could kill that."
And then ORT was all like: "By all means, try. Even at less than 1% of my real power, I'll still wipe you AND your entire arsenal out."
And guess what? ORT would have done exactly that if Kukulkan hadn't jumped in to save us at the last second.
@@cameraredeye3115 Not really true since the only reason ORT was alive at that point was _because_ of Kukulkan. Without her ORT would have died after getting vaporized by the Hume-Barrel.
@@Otakumanu You do realize all Kukulkan had to do was nothing at all to help us, and ORT would have vaporized us, right? We had nothing left up our sleeve after Rayproof incinerated its original body.
Kukulkan was under no obligation to help us either, since we were technically her enemies as well as ORT...
@@cameraredeye3115 And ORT was only alive at that point _because_ Kukulkan was also alive. This isn't meant to denigrate Kukulkan, who is an absolute sweetheart, it's just to point out that we only needed her help because she accidentally made things harder for us.
@Otakumanu What do you expect chaldea would've done about it? That core is even hotter than surtr's sword. It's not like they could do anything to destroy it, at least they would have needed more time to figure it out.
I, too, wish to summon on the ORT Gacha.
I wonder if ORT needed SQ to summon itself...
OK let's look at everything it took to beat LB ORT.
- Camazotz immortality and a millenia+ long fight to finally snatch its core.
- In a best case scenario, whittling it down with a minimum of 16 servants to deal with every phase. EDIT: Correction, every registered servant in Chaldea
- Excalibur Blast combined with power of the ‘Alien God’ to destroy its body.
- Its living core destroying its Grand Foreigner servant body, and erasing the Crystal Valley.
So an immortal Bat God, every Chaldean servant, the power of Excalibur and the ‘Alien God’, and ORT itself to beat ORT. Beat, not kill. It can't die. Even then, after Bat God snatched the core, you're just fighting a crippled ORT.
Monster. The fact it learnt how summoning worked and created its own FATE system to summon itself, just to not lose, is terrifying.
Even more scary to think about is the implication from the dialogue that "ORT may not have been the most powerful thing that Gaia's plea for help summoned to the Earth."
Inb4 lasagna implements "*grand quartz*" to be used in summoning ORT. 30sq =1gq lol
another scary fact is this lostbelt version of ORT is weaker compared to pan human history by leagues.
@@rzhecheah4114
Not really
It really was as strong as the original Ort. The only difference is Immortal Batman Camazotz stole its core and that its own core decided to 1v1 it.
You basically NEEDED ORT TO BEAT ORT
oh yeah, and the extinction of the human race. That part was also important.
It's not as terrifying when you realize it only did that because it was still salty about Camazotz beating it earlier. Though it is incredibly impressive that Camazotz managed to essentially _humble_ ORT and make it realize it's not invincible.
POV: ORT gives you a summary of LB7 history while Kukulkan interjects every few turns
You finally defeat type ort, after having been fought for 6 million years and weakend by having it's heart taken out, and throwing all the servants under your command at it, only to hear, "SUMMONING SERVANT, GRAND FOREIGNER"
"Biological classification: Grand Servant: Class Foreigner.
ORT is being summoned."
shit gave me chills fr
This ORT and the 5th form of ORT which has a saintsgraph older than our UNIVERSE is still WEAKER than the original body ORT that is beaten by Ereshkigal alter (spider form) and got one shotted by Excalibur (UFO Form)
For real, ORT was the only entity to have truly beaten Chaldea while the latter was using its full power. We had absolutely no answer for its summoning. Even Fujimaru had pretty much given up and accepted death at that point...
"One Radiant Thing"
@@cameraredeye3115 oh and ORT was crippled the whole time.
I once said to a friend that the reason ORT summoned itself as Grand Foreigner was because it both gained the ability to because of all the servants it ate… but because it had gained sentience.
And it’s first thought upon gaining conscious thought… is to kill us for stopping its main body.
This theme reflects that to me, ORT has had enough. Just as it refused to die from everything, you did as well. By all logic, you should die from it.
At this moment, In its limited thoughts, you are equal to it.
Thus it must fight you this form as an attempt to beat you at your own game. Its limited consciousness wants to prove itself that it is the true ORT.
And you will DIE against it.
So fight on, Ritsuka, put an end to the Planet Eater, and realize in this moment, you are the one to kill (an albeit weaker) ORT.
I like this theory. I always figured that, if it had any sapience, it would be absolutely *PISSED OFF* at Ritsuka's refusal to die at this point. You just know ORT is running on 100% sheer spite - so the idea that it actually considered Ritsuka *its equal* in terms of refusing to quit is amazing.
Each phrase represents the history of Lostbelt Mictlan. And in the last phrase you will see
The being beyond the border: Chaldea
Daybit you evil bastard...THANK YOU
He's not evil though. He saves the universe. Not earth, not humanity. The universe.
@@BiriBiri925 I know
@@BiriBiri925 how? Pls spoil
@AustraliumMan sorry for the late reply spoiler:
You see something is hatching from CHALDEAS that is going to destroy our universe basically so Daybit to save all of us tries to end us all so w can die in peace because this god from CHALDEAS will ruin everything
@@WildArtistsl ooohh ty ty
"From the depths of Space I come,
My Brethren's Call I heed,
I Rest in Eternity, waiting for 'The Day'.
Mere Creature who have yet to reach the state of Finality,
Gaia called to me, to cleanse the Plague that fest her Sanctuary,
Yet still you persist...
The Monster you vanquished...
The Artifact you slew...
The Soul you stole...
And now...
Here I stand... Finally... In a form you shall learn to fear...
Ritsuka Fujimaru........whose suffering can never be understood..........
Allow me... To reward you.................................................................
WITH A WARRIOR"S DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This gives me chills.
Chaldea: We did it. Why do I Still hear Final Boss music?
ORT: This isn't even my Final form bro.
Chaldea: Ah S#!t. Here we go again.
Example of if the boss music has choirs ,it's a big fu*k u.
Very well, do you need a protein shake.
It must be hard when you have to kill me with an empty stomach, Lil Spider.
The Grand Berserker was revealed to be us all along when ORT turnt itself into a Yu-Gi-Oh super monster and had us go "Draw! Servant Card!" just to hope to stand a chance before our Data fully depletes.
People Really using a yugioh references with ORT. What's up with that
@@azaangeorge9552 I do not know, the theme reminded me of that one melody you hear during that Berserker Soul moment, and his front illustration looked like it could totally fit in a Yugioh card.
(Look, this is totally not a coping mechanism to lower the fear ORT can install in me, okay? Lol)
@Aria Lavinde Yeah sure. I mean there's nothing wrong with an unstoppable creature that's not even a god, the planets very own nuke, a godlike being from outer space, an army of servants which makes it look like a reenactment of the temple of time could stop and from what I understand from translation make fighting the likes of darkseid and thanos easier to kill( before anyone says anything. I've never read a comic, they sell any where I am from, I'm going off movies and analysis videos). Yep nothing at all
@@azaangeorge9552 ORT resembled a Eathbound Immortal monster in its first form
@@rebeccalotto8001 Except it would be a Cosmic Immortal with even more bullshit mechanics than the Earthbound Immortals during their reign of terror in 5D's...
The giant spider form is scary af but this one is like goetia size and I dont want to be in front of it at all.
also make him summonable he looks absolutely awesome
Yeah, this little bastard would have killed us all with a cosmic radiation blast if it wasn't for Kukulkan. And that's even taking the conceptual defenses of Mold Camelot AND Fujimaru's spacesuit into consideration...
new arcade exclusive coming in!
@@laxcatthesleepycat2688 ONOREEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
My only thought was how strong is the PHH ORT when we literally barely scraped by this imitation ORT.
He really is the Ultimate One
Probably capable of clapping anything Gaia observes as a threat.
This isn't an imitation ORT, it's just that LB ORT was weakened when Camazotz stole its heart. If it had the heart it would be exactly the same as PHH.
@@CallMeNoa No, LB ORT was weaker from the start and is considered a subspecies of PHH ORT.
@@kromysol2189 That was a mistranlation. Originally, LB ORT was as strong as PHH ORT but Camazotz beated it and stole its heart so it became weaker (hence the word sub-specie was used to describe LB ORT after its heart was stolen). The first goal when LB ORT awakened in the story was to get its heart back to get to full power. It said in the story that if LB ORT got its heart back then there's nothing that can be done to kill it.
@@Veldril And that is what makes Camazotz so amazing if he manage to beat and stole ORT heart.
You thought Spider-man was Peter Parker? No it was ORT all along!
Weep and despair. You face not just a Servant nor merely a 'God'. What stands before you is the apex existence of the Oort Cloud. A being beyond our very solar system and understanding. That which can never be defeated in this era. You face an *ULTIMATE ONE* .
The timeline where ort become a servant is likely the “Angel notes” version of history
Honestly, this whole Lostbelt reminds me of Shin Ultraman, especially the battle against ORT.
ORT is basically Zetton, a alien force called upon to wipe out humanity and they can’t do anything against it.
Kukulkan is Ultraman, an alien related in someway to the opposing one that grows to appreciate and genuine care for humanity and chooses to stand against and defeat the opposing one and the cost of their own life.
Edit: 69 likes, huh? Nice….
Funnily enough, there was that one time Nasu said even Arc couldn't beat ORT, so it was time to call for Ultraman!
@@siliriusred4594 Really?
@@shoneboot3128 "Also off topic, but many of the designs we requested from Mr. PFALZ that he has humorously compiled appear in this book. W-We’re no match! It truly is an unidentified flying object. It truly is the strongest attack-type life form. It truly brings excellent design to another level. I mean, not even Arc would win against this thing! S-Someone go find Ultraman!"(Character Material)
@@siliriusred4594 An Ultra battling ORT would definitely been worthy of a series final battle. Two opposing alien forces against one another. One holding no malice towards humanity, but must destroy them as requested by the will of the planet. The other, despite being treated with hostility by humanity and the planet, goes out of their way to fight for their future because of the kindness of a few.
It’s a battle between one who’s caller only fears humans outliving it, not seeing what the race born from its surface can truly become, against one who believes humanity, seeing their kindness and unlimited potential, can become something more just like it.
And Chaldea is pretty much SSSP the Science Patrol
Goddamn, ORT has proven to be every bit the menace that Notes hyped him up to be 22 years ago, and at just a tiny fraction of its true power to boot. But I bet nobody reading Notes back then would have expected it to manifest as Grand Foreigner ORT Xibalba today...
What an incredible final boss for the Lostbelt arc as a whole. This theme doesn't do it justice, and it's already better than almost anything I've heard in this game...
He wasn't even mentioned in Notes, he was first mentioned in Tsukihime (5th of DAA), then in Ataraxia (The Spider). All his abilities and design are taken from Fate Character Materials 2006.
@@ask_0 I thought it was Tsukihime material book that's mentioning them?.
Basically Nasu wanted to do a big reference to Chrono Trigger, this is the 3rd phase of Lavos fight
I love the fact that someone mentioned the chorus sounds like it's say "I'm so salty."
I can even kind of hear “Gudao/Gudako” at the end of each “I’m so salty”.
the OST has this listed as "Alternative Earth Travelogue - ORT 4"
“All units, stop Spider-Man!”
Correction,its spider-mon!!
@@pranavshinde4472 it doesn’t help that ORT points at you when using certain skills so I couldn’t resist 😂
"ay coño, grand foreigner! it's on top of the storm border!"
*points at spiderman* you?
He is a public menace.
humanoid ort... ok that's terrifying
but thats more easy than big ort, because humanoid form not have buff removal skills :')
Reminds me of Shin Godzilla's 5th evolution
But this one have infinite respawn ability, still OP
@@billywiddiyanto7109 It has instakill attacks and can respawn infinitely. That's already horrifying enough...
@@cameraredeye3115 Yep i have to spam buff super invicibility for that🤣
I misheard the lyrics from 1:06 so it sounds like "Oh No, Holy Fu*k". But it still kinda fits when you battling this absolute monstrosity
"K, you managed to beat my smurf accounts, which means I'll acknowledge you as a worthy opponent
Brb, I'm bringing in my main account"
- This entire fight in a nutshell
Sidenote: I strongly reccomend you all to keep an eye on the protagonist's face during the whole battle. It goes from "calm, yet serious" to "shitting bricks at 1000 km p/h" in less than five minutes
Ah, I interpreted it as Ritsuka getting more and more frustrated as the fight goes on, ending with them being pissed on how brazil's spider refuses to stay in the forever box
@@heehooobsessor7907 It's that plus "Exhaustion EX" (my fanmade term for how tired Fujimaru is). Remember, in the story you're throwing EVERY LAST SERVANT in your arsenal at the thing to try and beat it. And it's still not enough. As your hand turns black from extreme necrosis, ORT continues to advance toward the sun which is its heart. If it ever reclaimed that, it was game over for humanity...
@@cameraredeye3115 Extreme NECROSIS!? Holy shit, I guess Fujimaru is gonna get his fricking hand amputated before the next part of the story arrives. Or how are they supposed to miraculously recover their hand from something like that???
@@joseperalta3500 Magecraft? Lotsa bulltshit healer servants?
@@joseperalta3500 Probably something DaVinci cooks up.
I always found the most scary aspect of ORT to be just how inhuman it is. Even in this form, where it appears vaguely humanoid, it never makes a single sound. It is dead silent, save for when it's vaporizing us with its attacks. And not only that, it ostensibly has no motives, its actions seem to just be basic instincts at work, i.e prioritizing reaching its core, passively transforming its surroundings. We have no idea what its actually thinking.
the Grand -Foreigner- Moron
It's actually thinking, "I want to live", "I don't want to die", "Get out of my way", "Leave me alone", etc...
It shows from its actions. And, also, the other thing is that ORT is implied to be super intelligent despite it's very basic and understandable actions and reasoning.
No here In Its weaker servant form It’s pretty beyond furious at us, and simply wants us-Chaldea dead completely for getting In Its way. Hell Its an Ultimate One so It has ALL the rights to be pissed the fuck off at us
@@Gareth-daupsetpuppy No, that's wrong. It was explicitly said that ORT did not create its Servant form to fight against us. It was about preserving the Lostbelt and its own life.
We were merely a parasite it had to surgically remove, and he performed that operation out of fear and the desire to live. That was all there ever was to it for him. Surviving.
@@Ohimeshinso What? Fear? Desire to live? ORT already had its core removed from it by this point. Death wasn't an issue for it, so it doesn't want to survive. It just wanted its core back and we were in the way.
This is a remix of the Ultimate Ones theme! I’m so happy.
I bet K-scope old man will be proud with Chaldea at least even for a bit just from this feat alone
Mash: “A letter for you Fujimaru.”
Ritsuka: “What do you mean? We don’t get mail?”
(Opens the letter)
“Mr. Fujimaru. Congratulations on destroying all 7 Lostbelts and achieving the impossible, defeating a version of an Ultimate One, despite it being weaker than the real thing. However this is not a criticism merely an observation of mine.
I await to see what you will do next. I will be watching you with great interest.”
Signed,
Kaleidoscope.
I heard that this was only possible because Ort creates its own summon system and simulates a future of humanity where it can qualify as a servant, if that's so I want to see that future. under what kind of circumstances people could end worshiping it as a heroic spirit? 🤔
… Notes timeline which is basically a bad ending
.Notes maybe?
A timeline where humans aren't the biggest threat to the planet according to Gaia? Let's say some very overpowered aliens or even the Old Ones decide they want the whole solar system to themselves. At that point, asking them to kindly piss off ain't gonna work.
It's established in the Type-Moon verse that the planets themselves have a will of their own, thus I reckon they can have champions much like humans.
they did worship him in aztec civilization as the one who causes the destruction of world. that's why they sacrifice human in nasuverse. same is true with camazotz, he need sacrifices to stop ORT.
Watch that future be in the Servantverse lol.
The thing that I love the most is that Ritsuka and the gang still choose to fight this utterly borderline invincible Enemy.
And they won.
They had to, or it would wipe out humanity in the blink of an eye after reclaiming its heart. Think of it like Sauron trying to reclaim the One Ring, except it's the FGO edition...
"Wow~ That's overpowered~"
- Professor Nemo
only by technicality too and we didn't even truly defeat him either
Only ORT can defeat ORT.
At least they beat up a Grand Foreigner version of a TYPE in direct combat without any Deus Ex Machina/desperate measure (even before they knew it could infinitely respawn). THAT is an incredibly huge feat, despite ORT being nerfed in that form.
No wonder the Mage Association was so scared of Chaldea, especially Ritsuka Fujimaru. They’re basically a Shin Megami Tensei protagonist.
"Grand" Servant is the biggest container that can be provided by the summon system, ORT made its own summon system and force it provide the same scale of the "Grand" servant. However, it's not really "Grand" since it's not for the humanity.
Its also like way stronger than a normal grand its just that the system he copied (The throne of heroes) cant make a vessel stronger than that so he got a grand vessel with the highest stats possible
@@sebagomez4647 Basically EX across the board, in other words...
@@sebagomez4647 his container his the équivalent of 9 million servant
@@sullivanrigoulot64there are just not enough number of servants to compare him to
@@cameraredeye3115 yep all stats are just ex.
This theme is a remix of the Ultimate Ones theme in Notes. Therefore, the clumsy V/V if ever added to FGO, would also have this theme. The girl who can’t play a guitar.
But Notes is only a LN, does it have official soundtrack? i know a couple of fanmade tracks, but not official ones
@@HachannEinzbern it was made by a company for Notes iirc, I don’t know the full details, but this theme is a remix of an official theme for Notes probably commissioned by Nasu.
@@ozzboom9907 Maybe similar to the drama thing for prototype
@@ozzboom9907 It was made by a group called Wave; pretty sure it's fanmade-- but that makes this track 10x cooler, cause it is indeed a remix of their "Ultimate One" track. Essentially a really cool easter egg acknowledging and thanking the oldest fans of the entire series.
@this city really looks like a city I was trying to be poetic but alright.
Strong as grand class. For humanity? No. To destroy
Grand Class except all his stats are ranked EX. Because it's ORT.
i cant wait when this thing become a movie / ova anime
the scene where ort summoned himself is going to send chill lol
Finally.
ORT-kun and ORT-Chan (Kukulkan)
Daybit really did achieved his goal after all.
What was Daybits goal?
@@AceDiethel heavy spoilers
To awake Ort and destroy the planet, as it was safer and a better ending than the planet itself becoming the enemy of the universe if the "Alien God", AKA Marisbury, succeed with his plan
@@hhhicco I prefer to know and then piece it on how it happens in the plot… hahahah. but also Im sorry what!?
Spoiler theory:
So did Marisbury actually want the Alien God to be there!? And to expend his daughter as a vessel for the Alien God, like did that even factor in or not I wonder.
@@thebakalord People gotta think back as to why that scene, Daybit pointing the gun at Marisbilly only for him to ‘kill’ himself and never show up again. Daybit truly was onto something, and I’d say he did what he could even up to now
@@thebakalord itvis quite possible tbh. He is a mage, and mage society is.... it's seriously fucked up
And now we wait for the OG one in PHH to wake up
Fun.
And remember, this ORT died only because of specific circumstances. Circumstances that cannot happen in PHH.
Yeah. Better invest in Requiem/Servant Universe worlds.
@@maxjpz yeah we can't exactly use ort to destroy Ort in Pan Human History
@@kevinnac1 Eh...I mean...if the whole of humanity (or about 1 billion people, not sure if it has to be the whole or just around that number) commits a mass sacrifice...that's kind of an option.
@@goldenbrigain7031 I Mean the Better Option would be to Flee to The Servant Universe and Use Astarte Help,After all she is kinda The Type Milk way,But Ort would have to be There,and how in the world would we get him there
@@kevinnac1
Unless we somehow use any entirety of humanity’s worship to make it a sleepy Deity
Ort : my death is greatly exaggerated
Okay so I have a tin foil hat theory. ORT hacked the Fate summoning system in order to add a Grand Foreigner seat to the Throne of Heroes for him. The thing is, to manifest properly, he needed a threat to humanity to destroy. Since he hijacked the system, he probably could basically designate anything as a threat to humanity in order to summon himself at their location and "deal with them". I think he simply designated us as threats to humanity in order to manifest, but the thing is, if the damage he dealt to the Throne by hijacking the system is irreversible, then that means two things: First, there is now a Grand Foreigner spot to be filled ( which is a whole other matter ), but second and most importantly, this might be the reason we can't get into Antarctica anymore. My point is, orange-eyed Romani lied to us by telling us that we were just using too many extra classes, and the truth is that the entire Storm Border crew is permanently considered a threat to humanity by the Throne, and by extension the Human Order barrier around Chaldea's old base is repelling us, like it would repel a fully powered Yang Guifei, Abigail or Hokusai. ORT is responsible for the entire Ordeal Call, which is meaningless in the first place. Now I'm just gonna wait for this comment to age horribly and laugh at how wrong I was lmao
it sounds technical sound
It could be that U-Olga was a Beast (supposedly) that ORT could be summoned as Grand Foreigner.
Grand Servants are summoned in response to Beasts after all, and Chaldea might've been considered allies of a Beast, so ORT might've exploted that.
@@pyroball602 Damn, ORT's IQ is over 9000...
Even if this ages horribly, this is a reasonable theory, but if ORT hacked through and created his own throne of heros, why would he limit himself with these rules, can't he just summon himself just because he can?
@@danielhong6908 Because ORTs Assimilation doesn't give him a complete understanding. This was actually something stated in supplementary materials but the Ultimate Ones save for Brunestud and Venus can't understand Humanity fully. They can mimic us but understanding is something they can't do. Venus was only able too because she is parasitic and Brunestud is supposedly similar enough to us that he could get a basic idea.
I like how he's literally covered in eyes, like he's some kind of biblically accurate angel.
Technically he could very much be the definition of a biblical angel since there is no "angelic" or "demonic" lifeforms in the pure term, these words are used to describe something coming from space in the Type Moon Universe. Thus ORT kinda looks like an Angel in Type Moon terms.
ORT is called One Radiant Thing, so it may be a straight up angel given it's older than the universe.
Hell, Daybit could converse with 'Angels' that were higher-dimensional things from before the universe existed, and it was them advising him to use ORT to destroy CHALDEAS. The things also classed as threats to humanity.
It's very possible that ORT is an allusion to Lucifer given how Lostbelt 7 was 9 rings with ORT at the bottom, much like Dante's Inferno having 9 circles with Satan trapped at the bottom in the ice of Cocytus.
@@Breadwalker765 It's not entirely clear what angels are, but apparently there is such a thing as "true demons", those being demons that were created directly by God. Nasu also said once that "primordial demons" were amongst the three strongest things in the Nasuverse, so who knows. All other info refers to ORT as the Ultimate One of the Oort Cloud so I don't know if it can be classed as either an angel or a demon.
@@AdHocWholius Problem is, the exoanthropic angels that Daybit talks to clearly have some kind of intelligence and willpower, whereas ORT seemingly just operates on orders. The Dark Star things he summons also don't resemble ORT, being cloud things whereas ORT resembles a machine.
Also what's the deal with ORT now being older than the universe? What I got from what Trismegistus said was that ORT was manipulating space-time after hacking the Throne of Heroes (which exists partially outside of time), not that it was actually that old.
@@Otakumanu
It’s older than the _observable_ universe. That detail is important. The observable universe (the part of the universe we have managed to see, even if it’s just glimpses) is said to be around 13 billion years old. The actual universe is older than the observable one and so is ORT.
The chorus is saying Arisutoteresu,which in english means Aristotles the title given to the ultimate ones,fitting ain't it.😮
Shirou: Fighting that guy Gilgamesh is giving me too much anxiety! He is such a meanie and keeps trying to steal Saber!
*Meanwhile on FGO*
Mashu: Mastah, time for more horrors beyond our comprehension
Fujimaru: Sweet.
* x1 SQ gained*
Now Chaldea knows how ridiculously OP ORT actually is even at it's weakest form, bet they won't try waking up the real deal in PHH.😂😅 What a cracked asf extraterrestrial entity.
Just realized that ORT is completely unmoving
Type mercury: become a grand servant.
So you're telling me there's hope on summonable V/V?
V/V: You'll get my summon, after I learn to play guitar!
This is rype ORt from the oort cloud he ate his spider brotehr Mercury on the way so yes also Mercury?
@@WildArtistsl That's a theory and this story already translated from a legit app.
So in conclusion. We are only dealing ORT here and nobody else.
The fact there still people continued on this false statement eludes me.
No Type-Mercury, only ORT...
V/V from a Universe where Gaia is dead and the Throne of Heroes is also likely dead as well.
V/V is literally a being made out of the human subconscious she could easily be summoned
Being new to fate and reading the comments is like overdosing on mushrooms while writing a f@cking Thesis...
Nah. The mushroom IS the one writing this
(In case you didn't get it Kinoko Nasu is the one who wrote lb7 and kinoko means mushroom in Japanese)
@@Why1sThisAthing the mushrooms lazy but does its job when need to be done.
@@pranavshinde4472 Of course it's Nasu since he is the one who design and concept about ORT and the Ultimate Ones. Take it from a guy that went deeper than a submarines when it comes to eldritch horrors and existential threats.
spoiler:
>We are the bad guys all along. Doman, Muramasa, Rasputin, Holmes, Moriarty, and someone who's called "the Count" are all behind the actual Alien God (it's Marisbury, who would have thought) and serving as their apostles, even U-Orga Marie is merely a pawn and not the real Alien God. The reason why some of them are helping us is because the Alien God needs us to clear the obstacles (in this case, the 7th Lostbelt) for them to execute whatever is going to happen next.
>Daybit wanted to use ORT to destroy the earth for good, so the Alien God and whatever is hiding inside the "Chaldea" globe in south pole won't come out and cause an universe-level menace.
>Now that both ORT and Daybit are defeated, we have to deal with the actual Alien God, find out what's inside Chaldea and end it once for all.
God damn it I can't wait to see what's going to happen next.
It's obvious there was a connection via the Sirius Light. Was he the Alien God from the start? As for the lostbelts, I believe their endgame is something that will allow him to merge all timelines aka worlds, but such a thing will exhaust the universe and endanger it.
Damn should've trusted Daybit!
How the hell a human gained this much power!? Unless Marisbury is a magician or have found some otherworldly power!?
@@rogueascendant6611 Dude summoned Solomon, he's obviously not normal.... Can't wait for the truth about Chaldea in the next story
Can you tell me at the end of this lostbelt, daybit is still alive or already death?
The chorus are saying Aristoteraseu or in English Aristotles the name given to the ultimate ones in by humans in notes.
Fun fact:The translation in Greece states it "The Ultimate End".
makes sense. with ORT waiting for the The Promised Time and all.
@@flamescion8552 In Typemoon Human Imagination gives strength to Mystics,The Ultimate Ones were so Powerful That Human Imagination thought of One thing,"is this the End?"
This Ultimately makes them especially Ort,The Very Embodiment of the Concept of Extinction.
@@pranavshinde4472 wow. i never knew that. puts into perspective how humanity is not ready for these things yet.
@@flamescion8552 The most mind blowing fact here is that Ort isn't even the most dangerous being in Typemoon Universe.
That Title belongs to none other than The Abyssal Insect/Oberon-Vortigen.
Ort may be the Embodiment of the Concept of Extinction,Extinction itself is a Part of a Cycle.
First it's Birth,then Its the Cycle of life then Chaos(as in Confluct.) and in the end Extinction but Somehow Life Founds a Way to Come back in one form or other.
Oberon-Vortigen is the very Embodiment of "The End",A Creature that Devours everything with its Fangs into a Hollow Esophagus shaped into the Form of a Dragon,an Insect that shouldn't even be touched upon reality,Why???
Because it destroys the very form of Existence itself by solely Existing.
The Most Dangerous thing about it is the fact that absolutely no one knew about It except that Cursed Protector of Faes and his Priestess.
That too because he let them knew he was Coming,I guarantee you that not even Archtype Earth or Goku nor Zeno do anything about it,Why?
Because not even the Counterforce knew of him.
The Counterforce has 70-80% of its Power to keep Ort Sleeping and has Strength to even Fend off Chaos.its only motive and Goal is to Survive as long as Possible,for this Counterforce has prepared all sorts of Countermeasures except Oberon-Vortigen because it really didn't had anything in prepared against him.
Back on Goku stuff,cough* cough*.
Basically,Abyssal Insect or Oberon Devour Reality just by existing,its more like The world itself is falling in to the Abyss of the Hollow Dragon Fly.
@@pranavshinde4472where in the hell did you get that from? You like to pull things straight out of your ass don’t you? ORT is explicitly the strongest thing in Typemoon World, no, the Nasuverse. Oberon Vortigern is NOTHING to a being that is an Ultimate One, a Literal Planet Eater, a representation of a Star of the End, the true Endgame of the Nasuverse that which is ORT, Chaos is jackshit, it ain’t even the size of the literal Oort cloud, Shiki having a connection to the root means nothing, and the literal Concept of Death isn’t something that is useful or even effective against an Ultimate One such as ORT. It’s literally the only being capable of actually destroying the Earth, Oberons wyrm would merely eat away at the uttermost layer that is mainly just Humanity as it cannot threaten the world or else Gaia’s gonna pull Archetype out and put the Wyrm in its place.
NASU IS COOKING I LIVE HIM SO MUCH
Just like a cow smoking weed, the Steaks have never been higher.
Murdering the biggest threat on type-moon using the biggest clown in FGO is nothing short of the Highest of High! Even if it costs some blue cube, CS, and SQ.
Anyone here ever remember the Demonbane Memes...We are reaching that point in Nasuverse.
We truly are living in post ultimate one era.
Even the Strongest cheat boss cant stop chaldea's from their advance.
Next stop, dead apostle ancestors
I mean Chaldea won by the skin of their teeth, with the most favorable circumstances possible, against a significantly weakened ORT. There is no doubt that if they had to go against the PHH one they would just instantly die. Zero chance.
@@JTHMRulez1 Even with those circumstances, we had exactly zero chance without Kukulcan helping us. She and Camazotz made ORT's defeat possible to begin with...
@@cameraredeye3115 Yeah I included Camazotz and Kulkulkan as the "favorable circumstances." Since they are stuff tied to the Lostbelt (hence circumstancial) that could not be repeated with PHH ORT
This have always been the plot formula of FGO all the way back since Singularity 6-7.
Everyone (lancuria, tiamat, goetia?, godjuna, zeus) have to scale down to be beatable before facing the actual showdown.
The Ultimate one may be an exception to this rule considering how invincible they are as we know pre-lb7. they'll probably just end up "still too strong to be defeatable" even after a nerf.
But after a long gruelling fight worth of 23+ million of hp against canonly 300+ chaldean ghostliners, even The ultimate one are not an exception to chaldea's preptime (camazotz and Kukulkan).
That and we finally see the gruelling fight and defeat of an ultimate one on-screen. That's what i mean by post ultimate ome hype era.
Since now its proven that even ultimate ones were beatable with preptime even if your name aint zelretch or gungod, or A-rays or six sisters etc etc.
@@omega197 But chaldea had no preptime, in fact it's basically pure fuckin luck that things lined up like they did.
But in the end... After all... Only ORT can defeat ORT.
ORT will be back.
PHH ORT still exists, after all, so future humanity will have to contend with that one.
@@jacksimpson8529 Seeing how overpowered the Lostbelt ORT is despite being the weaker version it still can erase all the previous Lostbelt Kings like it was nothing lmao so let's try not to talk about the PHH ORT, the actual spider has no weaknesses at all. Zelretch was right, we're not ready for that Cosmic Horror Spider yet or else Gil & Enkidu and that crazy asf Dead Apostle will regret their lives for trying to wake PHH ORT up.
@@mse7215 Even worse, PHH ORT has ALOT to eat and mimic. It can adapt and evolve, unlike during fight it bat god. Truly, a monster in place like earth
I mean, the real ORT still sleeps soundly..
If Notes ever come back, i think that V/V and Ado Edem might have a fight against ORT in the end, but they will need a lot of help for that
I can only think that jp players are like skyrim enemies shouting "WHY!WONT!YOU!DIE!?"
ORT: Death is for chumps
@@UltimateHero33 Gramps: Care to repeat that?!
@@GM-lx7ji ORT: Don't compare Tiamat's dollar store death immunity to my own old man 💀
ORT: Action Replay and Game Genie Son!
ORT: what is this death you talk about? I don't know it so don't apply to me
Really wish Nasu would go back and explore Notes or at least fully being the Ultimates Ones to Fate. Maybe the Earth finally gets sick of all the shit between Goetia and the Foreign God bleaching it and sends its call to the planets to finally come and rid it of humanity.
We can only hope for Part 3
Reason why your videos is so popular quite simple: you have background for BGM that no one has. Sometimes I prefer your videos over my audio player on PC to put ur video in fullscreen on another monitor. Keep it up, lad!
グランドフォーリナー
ORT が 出現します
この文字列で鳥肌ぶわぁぁぁぁって総立ちした
"THE GODS HAVE CHOSEN... to Xibalba?"
- No, no
*TO XIBALBA!!!*
And everybody still underestimates Fujimaru
Holy Shit. Is this a Remix of the Notes Tribute Album Ultimate One Theme?
Correct
Dude literally just cheated it's way into a Grand Class that can't be a Grand Class
ORT: Define "cheating", because in my Throne of Heroes, I'm playing by the rules. I'm just better than that scrub Gilgamesh at making them. 😉
@@cameraredeye3115it also means he can enter Alaya’s one (he entered Chaldea’s one)
Deoxys vs Rayquaza : Fate/Grand Order edition
Damn I was wondering why I had a feeling of déjà-vu from this form of Ort. So it was Deoxys!!
Thanks, now I love Rayquaza even more! ✊😭 BRO IS THE PLANET'S TRUE OG!
Imagine if this dude was summonable-
If they’d want to give him a personality they could go with a Servant verse version of ORT, but summoned with ORT Xibalba’s body.
Don't
Top [redacted] things Gaia can't Nerf.
By Notes standards, she probably allowed this.
@@sk_hermit1809 Tbf humanity united as one in sacrificing themselves so Camazotz could put up a fight against ORT for so long...
@@cameraredeye3115 Only because ORT can't scale itself up to deal with BEAST with unlimited guts during the era they fight. Imagine if ORT managed to snatch up King Hassan or any divine spirits that can deal with immortality, badass bat be stomped if so.
Ohhh boy, can't wait to have ORT itself be a summonable thing. That's gonna be something real special for sure.
You don't just tease us with ORT turning itself into a servant without making it summonable too.
Man the amount of hype that i got when i discovered it!!! But then as a spit to a face comes the kuku twist that lowerd the chances of actual ORT being summonable... As fast as i got hyped, as fast i got disappointed...
@@darkrush6799 I'm holding out hope personally.
Servant ORT is gonna be such a gigantic cash cow, Lasagna is just saving ORT for a rainy day.
@@alonelyperson6031 same, as long as there is a little chance i will still hope, and cause they gave a reasoninng for actually being able to summon ORT at some point, it would be stupid if they wouldn't use it to make ORT playable
nah they´re gonna ruin ORT by making it somehow fall in love with MC or making it overly loyal just like nearly every other Servant in this game
@@kemonodono335 they already ruined it by making some random woman with mid design being basically him, might as well give the main dish and not that flavor substitute
FGOに出てくるORTは汎人類社のORTより弱いです。
また、FGO-ORTはカマソツ（神霊級の霊気10億人にパワーアップした状態）との戦いで心臓を失ったため、本来の力の50%しか使うことができませんでした。
カマソツはオルトとの戦いで10億人の神霊級パワーを失ってまで奮戦しましたが、ORTを殺すことはできませんでした。
那須きのこの鋼鉄の大地設定集によると、ORTという個体は複数存在するそうです。
Finally
A story where the bully (alaya/humanity) wins against bullied's big brother / parents. (Gaia and ort)
I wonder what'll happen if lostbelt ort would've gotten out of the lostbelt with kukulkan as a core once again, will it fight the real ort, or would real ort assimilate it into itself effectively doubling their power. Maybe they'd even brawl together and eat whoever loses cause technically phh ort would not be the ultimate one, rather an archetype if lostbelt ort got out.
Everything is fcked you would say.
@ABCZ ZC Don't get why PHH ORT would want to fight CHALDEAS. PHH ORT's sole purpose where he is is just wait until the prophesized end times and wipe out humanity. A theoretical Lostbelt ORT with Kukulkan reassimilated could join in the fight against CHALDEAS assuming Kukulkan somehow became its main personaltiy. If not, it would be much the same as PHH ORT if not worse, given Lostbelt ORT was actually pissed off in its timeline as opposed to PHH ORT still sleeping.
@ABCZ ZC Because Chaldea was a direct threat to the LB as a whole. Stands to reason why ORT wanted Chaldea gone...
The Lostbelt one will just fade into its counterpart. Their both incarnations of the Will of the Oort Cloud and in close proximity will likely get subsumed into the other.
You knew to defeat Ort they kinda putt two concept of death by Beni on Ort itself, and by Dino by defied Kukulkan(Ort heart) as sun a star that surely will die someday(maybe Black barrel is effective to Kuku?).
The true Enemy of humanity. A complete alien creature that is tasked to destroy earth. We may fought some heroic spirits from earth lore and myths. But compare to this. Its is not even recorded in any history on earth comes stronger than any of our history, a single being that needs multiple cooperation of humanity (and some help from 'itself") to be 'beat' lol true the strongest enemy we could ask for
More than that, there was two humanities helping defeat it. Since Camazotz was being powered up by LB7's humanity, and he was the one who nerfed ORT by stealing it's heart. And that also gave us Kukulkan.
Yo he kinda looks like a Scyther pokemon fused with a Space Pirate from Metroid it's cool af
"reality can be whatever I want"
- Scary Space Spooder
2 months later i keep coming back for this song when the algorithm calls for me
"When algorithm calls for me"
I really want to summon ort, I just want a giant crystal spider
Kukulkan is waiting for you
@@vietle8900 yeah I'm good I'm over here waiting for the crystal spider I don't want a random half-naked girl with a cape
@@rudcol8164 well... *Spoiler*
She's basically ORT
@@vietle8900 why does everyone spoil s*** online I already know she's Orin I don't really care I'm hoping for him instead of her plus he summon them self in the grand Foreigner class so there's a chance he could be summoned
Same, but cause of kukulkan, chances for him being summonable are lower now which is really sad and basically its a wasted potential, i was devastated because of it ngl, still holding hope tho that one day we will be able to summon actual ORT and not whatever the hell we got
1:07 ここから大好き
Do I even WANT to know how hard this LB is? My JP roster is still pretty rusty, only managed to beat LB6 with a sizable amount of cheesing fights!
There's not too many exceedingly difficult fights tbh. Definitely none at or above the level of Cernunnos. Here are the main notable fights:
Tlaloc (second battle, has a gimmick that stuns anybody that doesn't float)
Izcalli & Co. (you fight them several times)
Kingprotea Alter (gotta shrink her down to size, obviously)
Beni-Enma Alter (attacks can instantly kill on hit; gotta be careful)
"Beast I" Camazotz (you're limited to 2 skills per turn; any more in a turn and he subjects you to an instakill gimmick)
ORT (the first and only mandatory storyline raid boss in the game; you gotta power past it yourself, with no help from friends. Servants that die during the raid cannot be used again until you clear the last big spider phase with 3M HP. The good news is, you can reset the raid and try again if you mess up, and there's no time limit or turn limit)
ORT Xibalba (pictured above; isn't too bad until you hit the last bar, and then it hits your Servants with Forced Exit until you have only one left; this Servant must finish the battle without help from Command Spells)
Tezcatlipoca (the true final battle of LB7; has an NP DPS check gimmick that activates when his HP drops to 0, and if you fail, you lose and have to restart the fight)
@@cameraredeye3115 welp, ORT sounds as hard as I thought it was gonna be!
@@defnotjam it's actually pretty easy, the raid part gives you some damage buffs that allow servants to solo one of his hp bars pretty easily as long as they are properly levelled up, else you will need 2 servants, 3 if somehow the second one isn't able to clear it.
ORT Xibalba may seen menancing at first, but Kukulcan makes your team take way too little damage and when she uses her NP it can easily break one of his hp bar. The last HP bar is more of a victory lap, since every time one of your servants is Forced Exit or dies it buffs the rest of the characters, so your last servant can be the worst character in the game and it will be able to deal with it.
@@anphony3760 hmmm...
@@defnotjam Forgot to add one fight to the mix: the one against Daybit and his crew of Shadow Foreigners in Chapter 19. Each of those shadows has 3 bars with some nasty Break mechanics (like buff removal on first break), and you're forced to bring U-Olga and Mash to the fight. Not only that, but the number of shadows you have to fight is equal to your starting party size when the fight begins. They can also attack up to 6 times a turn, and Daybit will also be giving them various buffs throughout the first 6 turns of the fight.
Needless to say, your options for fighting them are very limited. If you don't have a Foreigner or Alter Ego with an AOE NP, good luck.
"My source is I made it the fuck up!"
I hope part 3 of fgo, if it is a serious story, if it does happen instead of like, a remake or reboot of part 1 or some other thing, that it doesn't power scale higher than this, rather keep ORT as the worst enemy our gang ever faces in their lives
ORT has been hyped for decades now as the strongest thing on Earth ever since it was first mentioned it was hybernating in South America, hard to believe they'd just top that out of nowhere
@@malleuslimbus I mean its been implied a long time ago that ort... wasn't the strongest thing Gaia called.
@@elijahmanaghaya6038ORT got the signal waaay before the other Ultimate Ones though, no one else that gets called by Gaia has even gotten the signal yet in FGO timeline, it'll be a very long time before they arrive on Earth
One word the song is fire
Can't wait for his banner (I can dream right?)
There already is, it's Kukulkan lol
@@SamArizunot the same
For me this track didn't play for some reason. I thought no BGM had some sort of meaning to the fight, but it was just a glitch apparently