Israel Palestine Double Standard Called Out On BBC Question Time
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Whoa, that lady is on fire. I love it when hypocrisy and double standards are exposed by ordinary but critical thinking folks. Bravo 👏
Go Irish Lady!!!❤
I am getting so sick of you marxist mouth pieces..
Just because she shouts loudly
The Irish killed many children too during the Troubles = Hypocrisy
she spoke cogently. please address her arguments cogently rather than opting for pathetic ad hominem attacks. learn how to debate with some civility..@@timcomley5948
Are they now going to accuse her of being anti-Semitic? That's what they usually do when anyone tells the truth about Israeli crimes.
No they just accuse you of being antisemitic when you say antisemitic stuff
@@SK-ei4cm Total BOLLOX, time and time again i hear people accused of being antisemitic for simply disagreeing with Israel.....
@@SK-ei4cm did she say anything antisemitic?
You do not have to say anything to be accused of being antisemitic....
If you pay enough money you are spreading “peace and love and democracy”
Which entities have the most money?
This brave lady said what cnn, BBC and sky news would not like to hear
Only the BBC had the integrity to air it though.
Yes in west we are not used to lies you spread. That´s why we don´t hear it. When you come in with "guns" you will leave also same way.
Israel pulled out of the Gaza Strip in 2005. Hamas was elected by the Palestinians in 2006. Hamas has run the Gazans for 17 years, as a result, 60% poverty rate and 45% unemployment rate in Gaza. American taxpayers give 600 million dollars in aid to the 2.2 million Palestinians every year. Where did that money go? Please stop blaming Israel but the Hamas government.
The amazing mental gymnastics of calling out the BBC for not liking what this lady had to say using a platform provided by and broadcast by the BBC.
IF Gaza is free from Israeli rule, why can Israel then cut off its water, electricity, food and then bomb a separate land and call it "self-defense"? @@emmalee866
West Bank is not under Hamas rule and they are regularly attacked by Israeli thieves trying to steal their land.
I love the Irish..good people with good hearts.
After seeing American media for so long, I am amazed that each party here is allowed to speak to conclusion and then shuts up to allow others to complete a sentence in opposition.
That is because the BBC prides itself on being fair to both sides and being impartial. ( unlike Fox News)
The lady is wrong, Hamas accidentally bombed the hospital with a dud. It’s on video. Hamas strategically placed themselves by the hospital as they know Israel won’t risk bombing the hospital and then Hamas bombed it by accident. There is video footage of it.
@@duncanmacpherson2013 It isn't only Fox. Ppl speak over each other on pretty much every outlet.
Sad yet true
Even BBC is not as fair as it appears, but “FOX” news seems to take the task of undermining Palestinians and their supporters very personally.
This lady is smart and not brainwashed by the media
How much of hamas go pro footage did you watch?
@@Alex123321Alex123 These lot don’t want know to about any of that. They just want to spew propaganda.
@@Alex123321Alex123i wish you every thing the Palestinians are facing in life
@@adamsulaiman7720Amen 🙏
You are speaking hatred. Its so unecessary. That is the attitude which has created the conflict in the Middle East. Be proud of yourself.Unless I have got it wrong and you are wishing him the sympathy of the world and Aid from the West all his life.@@adamsulaiman7720
Isn’t it amazing when the general public have a better understanding of current affairs and world events then politicians and the media 🤷♂️
and frightening...
Politicians and media are paid to get it wrong.
The bastards know but they don't care because they the power.
Symbolic to the fact that there is no Right/Left option in America. Both are equal on ground issues = 💰 + screw the people. It's all an illusion and the people are crash dummies for still being victims of it lol
If that were true there would be no domestic violence.
"This did not begin on the 7th of October." This is what I have been commenting all over the internet.
It began over 5000 years ago.
Judaism as a religion was established about 5000 years ago, that's true, but Islam as a religion is only 1400 years old so that's when this started... when Jews refused to convert to Islam.
Hmmm...Jews are also castigated for not converting to christianity...which came BEFORE Islam. So why are not christians targeted for NOT converting to Islam? Of course, we are ALL "infidels" but Islam seems to hate Jews the most. @@jnkatalina
Same 😢
@@jnkatalinawhat happened to Abraham's descendant Ishmael?
Bless her. Finally someone is reminding the world about Palestinian children in lsraeli military prison. Defence for Children International was declared a terrorist org for reporting what the apartheid settler colonial entity has been doing to Palestinian children in lsraeli military prison ie strip searches, sleep deprivation, no right to lawyer etc. Save the Children prepared their own documentation that can be cross checked with the Defence for Children International.
Unhinged Israeli Mayor said that the UN and Amnesty International and all NGOs lie about Israeli crimes, lol,
What a woman! Amazing to see people like her still exist.
I admire her ability to remain coherent when speaking so passionately on a subject that she clearly felt very strongly about.
This is basically the thoughts of the majority of Irish people which apparently makes us a nation of anti semites😅
Only the people will suffer on both sides because did you notice the attacks are only against the poor, even the H@m@s attack targeted the people NOT the elite
A leftie dinosaur
@@paulmunster212Would you like to elaborate on why you think that about the lady ?
The African people of Angola, Moçambique and Guiné -Bissau were called terrorists by the Portuguese government at the time they were fighting for independence of their countries. It's the way the colonialists try to take away their rights.
There's a difference between fighting soldiers and going into people's homes & murdering babies. 42 babies were killed in the Oct. 7 massacre. I don't think Mandela ever did that.
exactly@@scottsimon1
@@scottsimon1I heard it said, still skeptical.
@@scottsimon1Israel killed like 1000 times that amount in the past 30 years.
In the 80s you would’ve used the same rhetoric and compared Mandela to MLK. It’s a colonialist trait.
@@scottsimon1 this is lie. Xamas dont killed kids
I love the Irish, Swedes and Spaniards. They are the only European's who's governments actually speak out against what is happening to the Palestinians consistently
but you support an ideology that would say you are 2nd class citizen.,..be careful what you wish for
Scotland as well , Nissim Vaturi deputy speaker to the isreali Knesset said , we need to put Palestinians on boats and send them wherever will be good for them ,Scotland wants them ,We'll hand them over ,
@@bernardinglis4232 exactly Palestinians where ever they have ended up have been a disaster for those countries..there is a reason muslim countries surrounding them don't want them
My "socialist" president in Spain is giving very basic lip service for Palestine in support of a soft stance for a two state solution but won't stop weapon sales to Israel. He's a hypocrite.
Sweden? Where did you get that from? I'm from here and our government shows a craven loyalty to the US/NATO and its favourites (Tel Aviv at the top of the list). It was several years since Swedish governments dared to speak out on this kind of thing.
I am personally giving a standing ovation to this woman. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I salute her bravo
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Me also… she’s a pure 24 caret HUMAN…
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May God bless her.❤
Its a problem where you cant say 'Israeli citizens dont deserve this atrocity but it is a consequence of decades of Israel policy decisions' without being called an extremist
Sounds like victim-blaming to me.
@@worldaccordingtodunkNo, because the victim of the al-Qassam Brigade operations was NOT the Israeli State.
Israelis shouldn't be there so the narrative should always side with the Palestinians based on a pure moral compass
@@worldaccordingtodunk Except from the perspective of Palestinians is aggressor blaming, and is curious how you call it "victim blaming" when Palestinians have been victims for decades of a brutal occupation and even when they try to resist via non-violent methods like the march of return they get brutally massacred anyway, so what other recourse do they have? There are only victims here, but the onus is on the side with all the power, meaning the Israel Netenyahu regime.
Just like how you couldn't say, 'Can we discuss if natural immunity is a thing, and whether an experimental vaccine is safe?' Or 'Is it possible this outbreak came from the lab doing gain of function research, rather than appearing at a 'wet market' with no other sign of existing in other areas?' And that's because the objectives are about control and profit, not what's most beneficial to normal people.
The world is changing thanks to independent media and the internet. I’m 65 and have been following this since Jimmy Carter and for the first time in my life I have hope for the Palestinian people. Free Palestine.
Correct ....
We need more muslim theocracies in the world. True. Very true.
My first vote for president of the United States was for Jimmy Carter in 1976. Best vote I ever cast. I also support Habitat for Humanity.
Israel does hoid all the cards but, that balance of power could change very soon.
@@brianfleury1084 Wow! Jimmy Carter? Worst president other than Biden.
When one comes up to a bear and kicks it... For 70+ years... WHAT did Israel expect? Hugs and kisses?
Very true, retaliation resistance are branded terrorist by great gold medalist liars
When one comes up to a honey badger and kicks it ... for 70+ years - what did the Palestinians/Hamas expect? Hugs and kisses?
@@KlipsenTubethe honey badger started it by trying to steal the bear's land, sweaty. If Israel hadn't ethnically cleansed Palestine, none of this would be happening.
@@KlipsenTube that doesn’t quite track lol
@@KlipsenTube Well, the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto had enough in 1943 and had a uprising...... it didn't end well, but they had enough of what was haapening to the people around them. So whirs your point in your comment 🙄🙄
Admire this lady’s guts to speak out
She is trying to be nobel, but lacking moral clearity, noting can justify raping, cuting limbs, burning and beheading babies, its like saying well what about Ted Bandy tough chilhood, therefore he had to become serial killer
Palestine. does not own the land. Arabs do not like.them. You will be called islamphobic. Please do not gave land if you win the war. You gave them away after 6-day war Israel against all Arab nations.
Unfortunately, she drank the Kool'Aid of Fakestinian crapaganda!
As shown on “Secrets of Great British Castles” last week on Sky History Channel 2 - about Carrickfergus Castle - the Gaza situation now parallels the English dispossession of Irish Catholic natives in the 17th Century, stealing their land and homes and giving them to English Protestants. Native Irish were not even allowed into the settlements (plantations) and forced to subsist in the forests. When they fought back and massacred the settlers, the English once again demonized the Irish as savages with wild one-sided propaganda and even sent unofficial mercenaries to hunt them down for sport alongside the official English genocide.
@@sutapasbhattacharya9471
But the Judeans are the Natives of Judea.
NOT the 7th century settler colonists.
OMG im 65 years old they have been fighting since before I was born ! Frankly the United Kingdom should be fixing their stupid mistake ! Im tired of this conflicts on both damn sides ! 😡😡 United Kingdom admit your mistakes and fix it 😡😡
That lady spoke profound powerful honest truth simple consistent and to the point. She gave historical facts as well.
"historical facts" not really. She picked few to support her agenda.
I believe the more civilized people. The so called "historical facts" she presented are thin and don't hold water up against a knowledgeable historian on the subject. The Jews never start s--t but they definitely finish it. They're much smarter and you can see this by how they're able to hold their own surrounded by enemies. Look at the atrocities always committed by middle eastern countries, dictators, religious nut cases. Even that joker "prince" in Saudi Arabia chopped up Jamal Khashoggi. SO MANY BARBARIANS in the middle east!
If Palestinians truly wanted peace, they wouldn't allow Hamas to proliferate in Gaza. A very LARGE number of Palestinians support Hamas to one degree or another. It's EXACTLY the same deal with Russians. If you watch interviews with them, a very large number of Russians support the criminal Putin just like a lot of American losers support Trump!
It's a common ploy when a government and the media want to defend their side in a war to pretend that it all began with the "attack date" (October 7, February 24, the Egyptian seizing of Suez in 1956 etc) out of the blue, and that there exists no earlier history to the conflict. "They attacked us, anything we do from now on is in self-defence!"
Nah
This is absolutely my argument but she said it so much better than I could!
That lady is a treasure and she speaks the truth
Yes we need to protect her at all costs. Keep her locked far far away somewhere and don’t let her out 🤣.
@@Tad1945 oh she scares you does she. That's even funnier 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@Tad1945 Indeed
@@Tad1945 should apply that type of protection to yourself.
She is not balanced but full of hatred...that is not something to treasure
Politicians knows whats wrong and right, just that they choose whats convenient for their self preservation.
Uh. >_> I was SO confused reading your comment, I thought "I don't recall being that polite in a comment before." And I was astonished why I didn't point out Novara media is an Israeli owned and operated business. Then I saw the username.
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely
Politicians provided mess in the world, there will endless conflicts everywhere because they ve created wrong laws & oppressive one to get rid of what doesn't serve their interests
Right pls read mine above
@@BigReptileCrew But when another country does it they're "corrupt"
Just stumbled upon your channel and I have to tell you that it is refreshing to see such an intelligent discussion on something that the main stream media likes to gloss over and issue a biased take on the situation.
Same here. He’s lovely isn’t he how he presents
The discusion was on the program "Question Time" from the BBC wich is mainstream media
Indeed, he speaks eloquently and calmly and brings light to these issues. God bless him!
Gotta love Irish people.
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The man was a Scot I am ashamed to say.
@annemoncrieff3875 no he thinks he is he's just irish unfortunately he doesn't realise
@@annemoncrieff3875same kinda 😅
Much love for this lady from 🇿🇦
This is why I love the Irish , they give it to you straight. Ireland is certainly standing up for Palestinians and protesting against Apartheid Israel.
The Irish have nothing to do with this Middle East conflict. Two totally unrelated scenarios.
Listen to clare daly and love Eire !@@sherekhan90
@@sherekhan90 There are similarities because there was a time when the Irish did not have self determination in their own land and that is the position of the Palestinians at this time.
@@sherekhan90The Irish have great empathy for the oppressed because they went through hundreds of years of oppression.
@@jujutrini8412 Yep you can clearly see it from countries that have been the colonizers and oppressors. Living from an ex French/british colony I can attest of the usual arrogance of some to brandish everyone as terrorist's.
Just found your channel. It is so unusual to listen to intelligent discussion instead of dumb propaganda. Thank you!
I love this woman.
Yes the western media want us to believe this began on 7.10.
People dont want to say why the attrocity happened in the first place.
Israel is an occupier.
The first law of human interactions: The powerful trample on the weak. Israel is powerful because of the support it gets from outside, especially from the US.
Israel is a democratic country. That is why it has the support of the West it does not conduct Sharia law. Israel is proactive it looks after its country. Unlike many parts of the Middle East.which rely on handouts.
@garyallen8824 When someone wants to steal someone else's land the first order of business is always to denigrate the owners. You make a good spin doctor, but that does not excuse Israel occupying Palestinian land.
@garyallen8824 you are the only sensible person on this forum.
i admire strong women like this one
That woman has nailed it, more power to her
Bravo to her, she has tried the level best to tell the truth.
What is trurh do you know?
@@janettedewar6617 What is the truth to you?
As shown on “Secrets of Great British Castles” last week on Sky History Channel 2 - about Carrickfergus Castle - the Gaza situation now parallels the English dispossession of Irish Catholic natives in the 17th Century, stealing their land and homes and giving them to English Protestants. Native Irish were not even allowed into the settlements (plantations) and forced to subsist in the forests. When they fought back and massacred the settlers, the English once again demonized the Irish as savages with wild one-sided propaganda and even sent unofficial mercenaries to hunt them down for sport alongside the official English genocide.
@@janettedewar6617documented history!!!
@@MusMasidocumented history!!!
wow MP john Finucane is one morally upright and empathic human being what a great credit to Northern Ireland and Peace in the Middle East
His father was murdered in front of him by a loyalist terrorist acting with the knowledge and approval of the RUC and probably the UK security services. Nobody has ever been held accountable for that killing.
His father was murdered by loyalist terrorists.
How so?
I’m not Irish.
@@Mark70609 Read my comment and listen to what he said. Then use what is between your ears. Assuming that you aren't a reincarnation of Unity Mitford.
I love how so many people can see through the bullshit if mainstream media
How many people did the IRA murder?
people just believe Mainstream media when it suits them.
yet they fall for terrorist BS!!!
Not on Sky News Australia
Many have swallowed the bait
But all the bullshit media is all in favour of Palestinians. All in favour of Hamas!
The world should not allow Israel to remind it of the holocaust, as it often does, without it being reminded of Gaza.
Who's/what's doing more harm to Jews around the world? Hamas or Israeli colonialism?
@@homosexualpanic Well if the state of Israel presides over an occupation that militarises and dehumanises Palestinian people, locking them into a spiral of escalating violence (of which funding Hamas was a strategic component) and then crying victim because your citizens are then dehumanised in turn by extremists you funded, then the answer should pretty obviously be Israel, no? 🤷♂
Lol you lot think this is a problem. Go watch what GBnews and talkTV are saying and the comments section is even worse.
So true, the two events are related; the Jews are doing unto others what was once done to them!
@@iloveprophetjesus4168their sections are truly sad 😢
Nice answer John, calm and dignified, your father Pat would be proud of you as we all are❤
People need to be reminded that Israel originally gave some support to HAMAS to prevent Fatah gaining control over both the West Bank and Gaza thus causing a division in Palestinian's loyalties and thus making it easier for the Israeli government to stand over the occupied territory
They also need to KNOW that the European Jews are the invaders.
Plus allowing a more violent group, justifies their own violent actions, and makes the two state solution much harder to achieve
They were trying to find a way not to be killed by striking bargains with their violent Jihadist neighbors - you would do the same
Israel helped them?!? Israel _CREATED_ them...
Israel made the false assumption that a religious based Palestinian group like Hamas would be less dangerous than a political one like the PLO. This was before the advent of Islamist terrorism on a large scale.
I love the lady she knew what did she talked about Israel terrorist for a very long time and it’s not even their land
Beautifully put that lady….. & well answered John Finucane !…….
UK n US Government hold your heads in shame ! ✊🏻✊🏾🇵🇸
Australia, NZ and Europe, ditto.
@@WendyJoseph-ww8ws Exactly…..✌️
I like here she's a well informed woman.i bet they will never speak to her again
This incredible woman asks the questions that so many of us have about the decimation of Palestinians under the guise of defending itself, defending itself from what Israel's war crimes
As shown on “Secrets of Great British Castles” last week on Sky History Channel 2 - about Carrickfergus Castle - the Gaza situation now parallels the English dispossession of Irish Catholic natives in the 17th Century, stealing their land and homes and giving them to English Protestants. Native Irish were not even allowed into the settlements (plantations) and forced to subsist in the forests. When they fought back and massacred the settlers, the English once again demonized the Irish as savages with wild one-sided propaganda and even sent unofficial mercenaries to hunt them down for sport alongside the official English genocide.
There's a reason Egypt built a wall between Gaza and itself. It doesn't want what happened to Lebanon to happen to itself. Funny how much you blame Israel and the west for the plight of Palestinians ( a state made up by Romans that existed as Judea and Israel for hunfdreds of years before they had an Empire and a couple of thousand before Islam ).. Most countries around Palestine want nothing to do with them.
War crimes on both sides
@@mikecheevers9955 Far more committed by Israel!
@@mikecheevers9955 how can you commit war crimes on your own lands? What Hamas did was a horrific terrorist attack what Israel is doing to Palestine are war crimes
"History didn't start on October 7th. Hamas wasn't created in a vacuum"
Also isis didn’t - is that true
@@ariekohn864 stay focused .
Takes Irish to tell the truth, we know what occupation means.
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Well said that lady.
God I love the Irish! This lady nails it! The World is awakening to Israel's crimes for decades!
The Irish were fighting with the Germans in ww2
What a load of tosh
@@marypearl6450Nonsense
@@JasonC-rp3lyWhat exactly is a load of tosh?
@@marypearl6450 And so were the Ukrainians but we love them because the MSM tells us too.
Shame on Mainstream Media!
This is an article about something that was on mainstream media.....so what's your point?
@@m1leswilliamsThe point being that it took a member of the public to rail against the MSM for their scripted, one-sided portrayal of the conflict. Does that make it clearer for you?
@@m1leswilliamsnot in USA
@@m1leswilliamsI think you missed the point, which tell me everything I need to know about you.
Lol you lot think this is a problem. Go watch what GBnews and talkTV are saying and the comments section is even worse.
Uk. Ireland. Thank you for displaying a semi fair opinion about the murders happening now in Gaza but let’s see some courage in breaking ties with Israel. Believe me, you have nothing to lose and so much to gain.
I agree with this lady for sure this situation is not a over night thing
She just gave you the view most Irish have. Well spoken that lady.
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i am with Ireland as an Englishman ashamed of my government opposition and media
@@vincentvangogh8092me too.
Irish is great! The one of best countries. I wish I would live there instead of USA. The Biden is sick
@@vincentvangogh8092 proud of you. I’m not a Muslim myself but can’t turn blind eye to dying kids anywhere
I like how you highlight this didn't start on the 7th of October, and that's quite true. So was the mess in Ukraine, it didn't start on the 22nd of February 2022 either.
Ukraine conflict started when NATO invited them to join.
Cuban Missile Crisis 2.0
2014?
@@MusMasiIf you're asking about palestine, the whole occupation has been ongoing and expanding since 1948.
It started in 1948 right up until this very day.
@@nadar.9941 no Ukraine annexation of Crimea
And this is why the wider Muslim world will come together to back the Palestinians. Allahu Akbar! 🙏🏿
When will people realise that showing support for innocent Palestinians is not supporting hamas ? They are not one and the same, just as my heart goes out to the innocent israelis hurt and killed too. It's heartbreaking to see people suffer and lives lost on both sides....but i do believe palestine should be free. No more oppression, no more occupation, no more holdng Palestinians in an 'open air prison'.
What a well informed brave human being.
I see she's preaching to the choir. G-d bless the Irish.
Thank you for bringing up this story. Love and respect this lady and Ireland. We love you 🙏🙏💪💪💜💜🇮🇪🇮🇪💜💜
Man this was so good instant subscribe!!!👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
She’s nailed it.
Nailed what?
@@kamranhashmi1575 doubt it, my Mum is dead.
The truth my dear, the truth.@@coolhand1966
I think the nail is in her head.
Ignorance is all consuming
That woman is spot on. Only the wealthy side's voice is heard, only the wealthy side's perspective is shown to the masses in the west. The wealthy side have names, their hopes and dreams are shared, as they should. The Palestinians are numbers when they're killed.
Question: So she is wealthy. I see.
@@janettedewar6617 🙄
yeah jannette dwarf rich in character @@janettedewar6617
They never wanted a two-state solution from the start because this would go against the exclusive doctrine of their religion.
This !
I think you need to revisit your history books.
Btw which arab/muslim nation has a thriving religious or ethnic minority?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yeah I'll wait.
You are speaking of Palestine. They refused the two-state resolution.
@@debbiependleton8507 like east coast west coast stuff
@@debbiependleton8507 Palestine never had a choice. Creation os Israel is an act coming from Occident, while they had promised Palestinians to let them took their independence if they broke free from Ottoman empire (which they did) but they did not respect their word. Even when the two country solution was proposed, the partition was unfair to Palestinians.
Right on lady
Respect to Finucane for supporting the Good Friday Agreement after he witnessed his father's murder.
God Bless Her!!! Speaking Truth to Power!! Well Done!!!
They did the same to native Indians in America
Still getting away with it too.
they did it in Ireland as well
Yet 5 million Irish had absolutely no problem in settling in a country where the land was appropriated from the native Indians.
@@Fugazinome Better than starving in ireland i guess
@@MusMasi For sure,but then let’s not be hypocritical and self-righteous about some other people.
Bravo👍🏻💙
I am very happy the Irish people see this problem so clearly. Thank you for your discussion.
We irish have been oppressed ourselves ☘️
Irish people have long suffered from English tyranny
@@redroseofsummer2979 Jews have been oppressed for over 3000 years.
@@bdbusiness7896 Are you taught that at school.?
@@bdbusiness7896 After the 1920s the UK didn't enact a land war on Ireland though. It's not the same with Israel in Gaza.
What scary is that this can happen to any country deemed "troublesome".
Yes, see Syria, see Iraq, see Lybia and the list goes on
Any country with a non-white population
@@lvplvpthey want to do it in Mexico as well.
@@TheBlockbuster1982 western meddling often led these countries into being *troublesome* in the first place. One of the last things western countries want is stable democracies in what was third world countries because historically western wealth has been built on exploiting these countries and that would be harder to do, if they had stable democratic governments.
@@MusMasilets face it, its not western countries anymore its just the US thats been listed above 👆 that always benefits in those conflicts..
Nationilists here in the north of ireland have supported and understood the palestinian people for years..we know all about these poor souls struggle for peace....we are disgusted and saddned by the actions of usa /British stance .lord do not forgive them for they know exactly what they do
Since the Brave Heart movie, I love Irish people. ❤
Northern ireland was nothing like the Palestinian and Israel war, including today. The people of Ireland stood together for peace, the people of gaza stand together for the complete destruction of Israel and democracy.
Hamas demands a caliphate in Israel, and then the world... you can't talk your peace without the destruction of hamas.
Hamas demands genocide against Israel. You are delusional.
@@mehmetbekirbirden6858 braveheart WTF 😆 😂
Actually I've never considered the UK to be supportive of Israeli apartheid. I remember as home secretary Jack Straw had to cancel a visit to Israel because he caused a stir with the Israelis after using the term "Palestine" in the days prior to the visit. I also remember our arms embargo with Israel. So I certainly would not put Britain and the USA in the same camp there.....
Unfortunately not everyone in the Northern Ireland understand and support the Palestinians.
Israel doesn’t compromise. They don’t think like that. That’s the problem, their mindset.
Very good podcast. Thank you.
Two points to make here:
1) The British Government supported the US in invading Iraq on the premise of them having WMDs - I'm not sure asking them whether they support genocide will yield any meaningful result, and whether their actions would mirror their words
2) Although the Israel/Palestine issue existed prior to the event I am about to describe, it certainly kicked off in a major way after it - check out the Balfour Declaration. Essentially the British Government giving Israelis "permission" to set up in the area. Mainly because the UK still regarded itself as an Empire and arbitrator of world affairs
The jews were already settled there before they received permission. That was their land. The English just made it official. The Muslims ruled the majority of the area. Also after the area collapsed Israel started to take land which caused the territory dispute which has lead to long conflict.
its insane how so much of the fucked up shit in the world today can be traced back to the british... truely disgusting imo
It was not their land. They were looking for somewhere to settle. It could have been Argentina or Uganda.
You are forgetting Jews already lived there but had no political status. There were already a number of Jews fighting for an Israel in the 30's and 40's, fighting against the British. After the war was there a large influx of European Jews and the British tried to stop them. The Balfour Agreement was enacted to give rights and protection to both sides. That there was a mass migration by Jews was down to their treatment by Germany and others during the war, a need to find a safe country of their own. So not really down to the British afterall. If you want more:
A crash course on history of PALESTINIAN STATE:
1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state
2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.
5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.
7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.
8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.
9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.
13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.
14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.
15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.
@@PhatBoyiee Not all of those European Jews. They were not "settled" there. Other Jews were. As were Christians and Muslims.
Surprised BBC allowed the question to be asked...
Think it was when they went around the audience and let them have a say, they don't vet those points but they sometimes edit the coverage.
Surprised that the BBC let Nationalists in.
don't be silly. Alisdair Milne is a case in point. And was the DG. @@jonsweeney3845
Question Time is not produced by the BBC. It is a product of Mentorn Media.
They don't vet you before hand.@@jonsweeney3845 Question time audience members routinely go against aunties narrative and do tend to show it.
This isn't unusual.
Balance and even-handedness is all. Humanity for all peoples.
I love this 'lady ❤❤❤
Love the Irish😊
Well done for speaking up
👍A fair minded, independently minded, lady right here
Yes she saw the truth accurately from every side no bias at all. That is extraordinary. LOL
1:00 look at the guy once over to the right how he loooks at her, i feel exactly as he does, im proud for her as a human being.
Well done Lady, Respect to you. Children are children. But you can Not No Way Justify Genocide.🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Such a brave honest lady
Kudos to this lady we need more Irish questioning these British Bigots live on Air
And more English questioning their electoral choices.
and dicisions of days gone by@@johnners911
Thanks for the education,your'e a good egg mate.will be donating pronto x
Nothing will change unless there's dialogue. Good Friday agreement was built on opening Dialogue.
So this is where one is left wondering if the US/UK are just looking out for the commercial interests of their arms industries, by thrown arms into Israel and Ukraine?
There's been no announcements about opening dialogue with any parties, so how can we be expected to get peace
Dialogue wont change anything, Israel wants to continue their Holocaust on palestine
This lady is so fair! She has to talk a lot on media
Tell it like it is. The hypocritic Western media of course will not discuss this.
Beautifully answered, using positivity against negativity, love against hate, wisdom against ignorance
Exactly right 😖😖💯💯
This is so heart breaking. Why can't we all live in peace with one another.
Because some people are determined to take from others with impunity. It's obvious when one looks at it dispassionately.
Because sociopaths, narcissists and psychopaths live among us and are more likely to get to the top and be in positions of power such as being presidents, prime ministers, rulers, heads of armys etc. These kinds of people lack empathy and decent morals, they’re hungry for power, thrive on manipulating and generally only have their own interests at heart. The fact you want peace shows you’re a good person. 🫶🏼
The most important thing she said was, do the Palestinians have a right to defend themselves? This isnt asked enough and its never answered.
Self defence is not terrorism.
@@dorgepotbut taking hostages is!
@@Malpriorvids yes Israel is good at that.
@@MusMasi do Israel currently have any innocent people and children?
@@Malpriorvids I think you misunderstood me. I'm saying Israel is defending itself. The original comment is suggesting the Palestinians are defending themselves which is wrong, they are the aggressors in this situation.
Really what a woman absolutely right and honest.
There is a quote I read long ago and it often makes me think of Palestine:
"Take away everything from a person and watch how strange she behaves"
Seventy years is a long time
That's because they take hatred with their mothers' milk. Have you ever heard of a single person from Gaza winning a Nobel prize or contributing anything to the world? They supposedly "owned land" that was stolen from them. Another lie. But if you want to go with that, what did they ever contribute to society in the thousand years they have lived there? I mean, besides death and destruction. There are more Palestinians living in Jordan and Syria than in Gaza. Any idea what their neighbors think of them? I;m sure you can find some honest ones if you search hard enough.
It's been going on for 2,000 years not 70 but by the same token this land of Israel was given to the Israelis 3,500 years ago so the occupiers are the Palestinians NOT Israel
@@leonardgmiller8924youre talking about ancient history to justify genocide?
Israel gave gaza to palestine in 2005...its where the bombs and terrorist came from ever since lol
"palestine" has never existed
It’s about time history comes into it, I was born in 1947 and as a young person remember most of what happened through the years over there.
Brave and articulate protest. We can learn from this woman.
As shown on “Secrets of Great British Castles” last week on Sky History Channel 2 - about Carrickfergus Castle - the Gaza situation now parallels the English dispossession of Irish Catholic natives in the 17th Century, stealing their land and homes and giving them to English Protestants. Native Irish were not even allowed into the settlements (plantations) and forced to subsist in the forests. When they fought back and massacred the settlers, the English once again demonized the Irish as savages with wild one-sided propaganda and even sent unofficial mercenaries to hunt them down for sport alongside the official English genocide.
@@sutapasbhattacharya9471 thank you for sharing this, I was unaware of this history. Amazing to see the march of history and how we repeat it.
It's called organising a communist movement and activly fighting the British establishment and media along with listeing to "false leftist" channels like this.
@@sutapasbhattacharya9471stop copy pasting...boring
That was the opposite of articulate....just a rant full of hatred
Her point is hundred % undeniable.
Damn! Love that lady! Wish more 'leaders' had her kinds of guts and moral compass!
Arrest Netanyahu! Liberate Palestine❣️ 🇵🇸
Thank you. Some of the core issues are so well expressed here. And the Good Friday Agreement is a very useful thought to centre it on: it really helped me work through my own thinking.
This woman is wrong ... Hamas had enough money not to rely on constant supplies on Israel they choose to build tunnels and buy weapons ....
this lady nailed it beautifully
Did she realy ? If ‘Palestine’ goes back through most of recorded history, we should be able to answer the following basic questions:
1. When was it founded and by whom?
2. What were its borders?
3. What was its capital?
4. What were its major cities?
5. What was its underlying economy made of?
6. What form did its government have?
7. Can you name one ‘Palestinian’ leader before Arafat ?? and Arafat was born in Cairo Egypt , on the 24th August 1929
8. Was ‘Palestine’ ever recognized by a country whose existence, at one time or another, leaves no room for interpretation?
9. What was the language of the ‘State of Palestine’?
10. What was the most common religion in the ‘State of Palestine’?
11. What was the name of its currency?
12. Choose any date - what was the approximate exchange rate of the ‘Palestinian currency’ against the US Dollar, the British Pound, the European Euro, the Japanese Yen or the Chinese Yuan?
13. Since there was no country today, what caused its destruction and when did it happen?
14. You mourn the ‘slow demise’ of this ‘once proud country’. When was this state proud and what was it proud about?
15. Are the people you mistakenly call ‘Palestinians’ something other than generic Arabs gathered from the surrounding areas or thrown out of the Arab world?
16. Do they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them rights to self-determination?
17. Why hadn’t they tried to gain independence until the surrounding Arabs suffered a crushing defeat in the Six Day War?
18. How else can you explain the refusal by Egypt and Jordan to take back the ‘West Bank’ and Gaza in a dignified manner and unconditionally?
Most Irish people know exactly what’s going on in Israel.
It’s easy to identify when you’ve seen it before.
And yet it's far from the same. Imagine it more like Welsh people being displaced centuries ago and then out of sudden buying property in Wales and wanting to have a Welsh state.
German Uboat bases in Ireland during WW2 @@vlastimil-furst
But the Irish invaded Australia and ignored aboriginal human rights and
@@bubu345if we did I’m ashamed.
@@Shane-zx4ps the Irish were very much part of it.
Spot on! There is nothing fair or just about what Israel is doing
Thnak you for speaking up and standing up for the truth! got a new subscriber
As shown on “Secrets of Great British Castles” last week on Sky History Channel 2 - about Carrickfergus Castle - the Gaza situation now parallels the English dispossession of Irish Catholic natives in the 17th Century, stealing their land and homes and giving them to English Protestants. Native Irish were not even allowed into the settlements (plantations) and forced to subsist in the forests. When they fought back and massacred the settlers, the English once again demonized the Irish as savages with wild one-sided propaganda and even sent unofficial mercenaries to hunt them down for sport alongside the official English genocide.
That lady has facts
Sue the dude for calling him terrorist. That was complete defamatory but the MP handled it well that it embarrassed the 💩 in the audience
The dude is just a frequenter of a certain stadium in Glasgow that spews bile on a regular basis. 😢
That lady is so true 👍 the Palestinians have lost there land every day.
so did malaysia lose singapore, and indonesia lose malaya and singapore. so do you propose indonesia use terrrorism on both malaysia and singapore?