thank you so much for this, I like the idea of dirt but I couldnt figure out how to set up my slides ride. in just a couple laps I took like 8 seconds off my times. now I only suck in stead of really suck. :)
When dirt track builds rubber and is rubber edges up the key is to try abd drive as straight as possible with out much sliding so you don't burn rr or hang rr right above the black slick. The less amount of angle in the corner your car slides helps to keep up momentum on any dirt track and corner sleex
You use brakes here for a ss? I’ve always use throttle control no brakes needed, because you need your car to stay wound up. I hit the limiter on the entrance to every corner
1:40 is were u hit the divet pothole at my local track and end up licking the wall or plum crashed in to it every one goes high at 1 throw the yellow again lol
I've been trying to teach myself how to drive this like I have done for every other series- problem is, they are on pavement... I couldn't wrap my head around how to dirt race since it's slightly different.
Apologies for the late response. You'll find a lot of this on dirt, I recommend playing with the steering ratio and don't focus on having the wheel straight expecting the car to be going perfectly straight either. I can't say for certain whether you should raise or lower the ratio, because it all depends on whether you're overreacting and steering too much to compensate, or not reacting quick enough and not steering enough to keep it straight. Hope this helps
eg full throttle feels faster but your tires must be spinning so lift and get back on it should correct it, keeping full throttle your more than likely doing fishtails down the straight, or over correcting on your exit
Thank you for this. I can drive the dirt cars. I can run mid pack. I can't seem to hang with the big boys though. I keep studying these videos because... well... I'm getting frustrated. Stable isn't fast. When I think I'm fast, I'm slow. There is so much finesse with these things!
It's all concept, and not skill. I'd say I'm a rather on the better side when it comes down to dirt, normally running top 3. You just gotta learn the physics of the cars movement, and how to properly countersteer without overdoing it. Learn the physics of the car, and bing bam boom your a fast driver now.
@@tannerdickie72 that's my issue right now, I'm getting "better" but I start off decent and then get worse and worse as I go in my practice. My steering just isn't where it needs to be, especially in Late Models. Good Lord, I can't even keep them in a slide. I haven't grasped the "Turn, Countersteer, Throttle" to keep it sliding.
@@michaelscott1862 The reason you are getting worse and worse throughout your practice is because the track is slicking off. If the track looks shiny, advoid that part of the track.
I keep having a problem with the car wanting to shoot straight up towards outside wall and nose into it, Every track and most all conditions. Am i on the gas to hard to soon ?? What can i do ??
Sorry for the super late response, that's on me. You're most likely counter steering too far or too long (depending on when exactly you experience this). Your throttle input has almost nothing to do with this, honestly lifting off of the gas will exaggerate the overcorrection possibilities since the weight will be transferred to the front tires and wherever they are pointed you'll be heading.
aside from what the other guy said for anyone reading this 5 years later.... big issue is timing. if you have that snap, it's more than likely weight transfer from poor timing and too much steering. try trail braking the turn sooner and further with 1/4 to half throttle, then lay it down nice and smooth on the apex. car should roll through the exit nicely with good exit speed. when you come in too hot and lay it sideways, you tend to suck out all your momentum and the weight transitions back to the front wheels during countersteer, causing a harsh bite.
This is the car you MUST drive in order to get out of rookies. It's difficult and that's why you should learn it first. If you can drive these fast you can drive them all fast. Don't spoil yourself with the glued down winged sprint cars for your first couple of races because then when it comes to race something like these you're in the wall.
Ryan Buhler I think he was referring to when it takes too much rubber/turns black and shiny. you're right though, if it's a light grey, it will have SOME grip, but briefly, depending on ambient temp, type of tire compound, how much rubber they lay down, etc.
Trey, you’re exactly right. Thank you. Holy shit it’s so annoying listening to people say it’s rubbered up. ITS NOT RUBBERED UP ITS CALLED DRY SLICK. If people think that’s rubbered up then drag racers wouldn’t be doing burn outs.
So a person can pretty much disregard the driving line iRacing offers? I can hold a slide but I'm not fast or consistent enough to be competitive in the top split. Looking for good advice.
I've not tried running with the help line on for dirt, not sure where it recommends you run to be honest. As far as where iRacing wears the track in, it's not always the best groove, and after they wear it in it's even less so. With the new cushion update though, next to the wall is the best place almost everywhere now
One of my biggest problems I'm having is my steering setup, I have a Thrustmaster T150. If anyone has any steering setup tips, I'd very much appreciate them.
The T150 isn't really good enough for dirt on iracing. My best to is to get a t300 or better wheel. I used the t150 for years and just upgraded to the thrustmaster ts-xw. The t150 is too weak to appropriately make the wheel heavy and then go light when it's time to exit the corner. :(
@@coletrickle1775 since then, I ran across a great deal on a g920 with a shifter in the forums...bought it. Im actually on iRacing right now and making decent to mediocre laps in Limited latemodels....I've been focused on asphalt lately to get my rating better but I dipped back into dirt and love it.
@@coletrickle1775 yeah I took the t150 back to Wally world and got my $166 back...bought this g920 wheel/pedal/shifter combo for $125. Dude shipped it to me for free. Only issue was it smelled like cigarettes....big deal, I wiped it down and rocked it. Lol.
I been racing in real life since 10 first car was a asphalt street stock and dirt abd asphalt wise I have raced any car you can think of in real life abd iracing is the best and most realistic you can get with out being in the car at the track in real life. And all the tracks and cars relate to real life and the tracks are exactly perfect compared to the track in real life. Like five flags speedway I use to race their every weekend and mobile on the weekends five flags didn't run and ot feels exactly the same on iracing and same line just like it is in real life
Dont start in full throttle like this guy says much better to start slow and learn how the car slides first, if you start in full throttle you will be eating wall all the time
This is not the hardest car to drive out of the box. Mind you, the easiest actually lol. I've got like a 2.35 Rookie level on asphalt, and 2.96 Class - D on dirt.
STOP with calling it rubbered up. It’s not rubbered up it’s dry slick. If it was rubbered up the car would be stuck to the track and your times would be the fastest they’ve ever been.
thank you so much for this, I like the idea of dirt but I couldnt figure out how to set up my slides ride. in just a couple laps I took like 8 seconds off my times. now I only suck in stead of really suck. :)
....struggled with street stock dirt... watched this video and won my next race :) great tips
Best video I've seen for these cars! Really hope you guys make more of these for the different dirt cars. Keep up the good work
When dirt track builds rubber and is rubber edges up the key is to try abd drive as straight as possible with out much sliding so you don't burn rr or hang rr right above the black slick. The less amount of angle in the corner your car slides helps to keep up momentum on any dirt track and corner sleex
You use brakes here for a ss? I’ve always use throttle control no brakes needed, because you need your car to stay wound up. I hit the limiter on the entrance to every corner
Love the video & the shirt!!
Can you do one for the sprint cars as for a novice these tips are very education
Sir if you don't mind could I please ask a big favor I'm a UA-cam Creator myself and I love your intro what kind of editing platform do you use
1:40 is were u hit the divet pothole at my local track and end up licking the wall or plum crashed in to it every one goes high at 1 throw the yellow again lol
Eat, Sleep, Simrace. Where the heck did you get that shirt? It's perfect. Great video Andrew.
John G. Hill yes. I need this shirt!
good stuff, thanks Andrew.
“If you find yourself hard enough left, you’ll find yourself to the right”
I've been trying to teach myself how to drive this like I have done for every other series- problem is, they are on pavement... I couldn't wrap my head around how to dirt race since it's slightly different.
Dude is that a Richard Childress signed helmet?
Yes, it has some other signatures but he signed the front.
I can't make my street stock go straight on the straight aways any help
Apologies for the late response. You'll find a lot of this on dirt, I recommend playing with the steering ratio and don't focus on having the wheel straight expecting the car to be going perfectly straight either.
I can't say for certain whether you should raise or lower the ratio, because it all depends on whether you're overreacting and steering too much to compensate, or not reacting quick enough and not steering enough to keep it straight.
Hope this helps
eL_T less stagger more toe in
throttle control and less oversteer
eg full throttle feels faster but your tires must be spinning so lift and get back on it should correct it, keeping full throttle your more than likely doing fishtails down the straight, or over correcting on your exit
anyway i could send you replay and you could tell me what i am doing wrong? i have only got into the 1 27's 1 time on usa
Thank you for this. I can drive the dirt cars. I can run mid pack. I can't seem to hang with the big boys though. I keep studying these videos because... well... I'm getting frustrated. Stable isn't fast. When I think I'm fast, I'm slow. There is so much finesse with these things!
It's all concept, and not skill. I'd say I'm a rather on the better side when it comes down to dirt, normally running top 3. You just gotta learn the physics of the cars movement, and how to properly countersteer without overdoing it. Learn the physics of the car, and bing bam boom your a fast driver now.
@@tannerdickie72 that's my issue right now, I'm getting "better" but I start off decent and then get worse and worse as I go in my practice. My steering just isn't where it needs to be, especially in Late Models. Good Lord, I can't even keep them in a slide. I haven't grasped the "Turn, Countersteer, Throttle" to keep it sliding.
@@michaelscott1862 The reason you are getting worse and worse throughout your practice is because the track is slicking off. If the track looks shiny, advoid that part of the track.
@@tannerdickie72 oh yeah, I'm aware of that part. But you might be right, too.
Any more advice for a guy about to give it his first go in a buddy’s car?
Real life or sim racing?
If real life, what sort of car, what track?
I keep having a problem with the car wanting to shoot straight up towards outside wall and nose into it, Every track and most all conditions. Am i on the gas to hard to soon ?? What can i do ??
Sorry for the super late response, that's on me.
You're most likely counter steering too far or too long (depending on when exactly you experience this). Your throttle input has almost nothing to do with this, honestly lifting off of the gas will exaggerate the overcorrection possibilities since the weight will be transferred to the front tires and wherever they are pointed you'll be heading.
aside from what the other guy said for anyone reading this 5 years later.... big issue is timing. if you have that snap, it's more than likely weight transfer from poor timing and too much steering. try trail braking the turn sooner and further with 1/4 to half throttle, then lay it down nice and smooth on the apex. car should roll through the exit nicely with good exit speed. when you come in too hot and lay it sideways, you tend to suck out all your momentum and the weight transitions back to the front wheels during countersteer, causing a harsh bite.
Subliminal messages at 1:06?
lol artifacts I missed from doing editing while sick
Why start w/ the "Toughest To Drive Out Of The Box" car? What car should someone w/ NO dirt experience start with?
This is the car you MUST drive in order to get out of rookies. It's difficult and that's why you should learn it first. If you can drive these fast you can drive them all fast. Don't spoil yourself with the glued down winged sprint cars for your first couple of races because then when it comes to race something like these you're in the wall.
Dry slick is not the same as rubbered up. On a rubbered up race track the track actually gains grip and can be just as fast a tacky track.
Ryan Buhler I think he was referring to when it takes too much rubber/turns black and shiny. you're right though, if it's a light grey, it will have SOME grip, but briefly, depending on ambient temp, type of tire compound, how much rubber they lay down, etc.
Trey, you’re exactly right. Thank you. Holy shit it’s so annoying listening to people say it’s rubbered up. ITS NOT RUBBERED UP ITS CALLED DRY SLICK. If people think that’s rubbered up then drag racers wouldn’t be doing burn outs.
So a person can pretty much disregard the driving line iRacing offers? I can hold a slide but I'm not fast or consistent enough to be competitive in the top split. Looking for good advice.
I've not tried running with the help line on for dirt, not sure where it recommends you run to be honest.
As far as where iRacing wears the track in, it's not always the best groove, and after they wear it in it's even less so.
With the new cushion update though, next to the wall is the best place almost everywhere now
do you down shift in the turn for the first track
No sir
One of my biggest problems I'm having is my steering setup, I have a Thrustmaster T150. If anyone has any steering setup tips, I'd very much appreciate them.
The T150 isn't really good enough for dirt on iracing. My best to is to get a t300 or better wheel. I used the t150 for years and just upgraded to the thrustmaster ts-xw. The t150 is too weak to appropriately make the wheel heavy and then go light when it's time to exit the corner. :(
@@coletrickle1775 since then, I ran across a great deal on a g920 with a shifter in the forums...bought it. Im actually on iRacing right now and making decent to mediocre laps in Limited latemodels....I've been focused on asphalt lately to get my rating better but I dipped back into dirt and love it.
@@michaelscott1862 Nice. Yeah the g920 and g29 are good enough wheels, that t150 is just too weak :(
@@coletrickle1775 yeah I took the t150 back to Wally world and got my $166 back...bought this g920 wheel/pedal/shifter combo for $125. Dude shipped it to me for free. Only issue was it smelled like cigarettes....big deal, I wiped it down and rocked it. Lol.
@@michaelscott1862 Excellent decision
I been racing in real life since 10 first car was a asphalt street stock and dirt abd asphalt wise I have raced any car you can think of in real life abd iracing is the best and most realistic you can get with out being in the car at the track in real life. And all the tracks and cars relate to real life and the tracks are exactly perfect compared to the track in real life. Like five flags speedway I use to race their every weekend and mobile on the weekends five flags didn't run and ot feels exactly the same on iracing and same line just like it is in real life
geat video!!
MY GRAMPA WONT LET ME PLAY THIS PLS HELP HE SAIS ITS DANGEROUS
loose stuff = marbles as it is like driving on a bed of marbles. No grip at all.
practice practice and more practice
Dont start in full throttle like this guy says much better to start slow and learn how the car slides first, if you start in full throttle you will be eating wall all the time
They call the rubbered up line "black ice"
got high and use the black ice for a slide job :) feels so good when it works.... other times the wall dont feel to good lol
Watching americans race on this compared to nz and ozzys is so different. I think americans could learn a thing or two from us
This is not the hardest car to drive out of the box. Mind you, the easiest actually lol. I've got like a 2.35 Rookie level on asphalt, and 2.96 Class - D on dirt.
STOP with calling it rubbered up. It’s not rubbered up it’s dry slick. If it was rubbered up the car would be stuck to the track and your times would be the fastest they’ve ever been.
the reason it develops the black slick look is because of the tire particles. that’s why he says rubbered up, it is.