World Premiere Sennheiser HD 660S2 Review - The Saga Continues

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024

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  • @klaymoon1
    @klaymoon1 Рік тому +41

    Great review! Finally, a true successor to HD650. It took 19 years!

    • @Soundnews
      @Soundnews  Рік тому +14

      Yes...sounds like a fresh new HD650 with a wider frequency response.

    • @angelOcrisu
      @angelOcrisu Рік тому +3

      Yeah. It needed to have 300ohm otherwise it's not consider a 600 serie Sennheiser by the "audiofiles" herd.
      I own the 660s and I wouldn't change it for anything.

    • @potion95
      @potion95 Рік тому +4

      @@angelOcrisu I absolutely love my 660s. I wouldn’t change anything about them. The comfort is great and they just disappear on your head. Also built like tanks. Mine have taken a beating and they still look new.

    • @Leonhart_93
      @Leonhart_93 Рік тому +3

      Better 650s doesn't sound as exciting as better 600s. All that 600s are lacking from being a perfect headphone is more bass and perhaps more sound stage. So are these 650s with better bass and more linear treble, or are these just 600s with better bass?

    • @angelOcrisu
      @angelOcrisu Рік тому

      @@Leonhart_93 It seems that they are 660s with better bass and more detailed

  • @kentbergstrom3020
    @kentbergstrom3020 Рік тому +22

    Great comparison with 660s (that I own), and thank you for using fresh ear pads on both models, it shows that you are serious and know what you are doing.

  • @gefski7677
    @gefski7677 Рік тому +6

    Great review, spending time on how they really sound. I’m happy to see the return to 300 ohms.

  • @Guerilla_law3516
    @Guerilla_law3516 Рік тому +3

    Even though you were first you put out a high-quality and informative review. Great job!

  • @GG-zv9ku
    @GG-zv9ku Рік тому +1

    i have the 660S and the 660S2 and the S2 are by far my favorite sounding headphones. I can listen to them for hours

  • @ccdani2
    @ccdani2 Рік тому +2

    No way ! I love my 660s I need this now ! Didn't know they were releasing this :0

  • @Flavius7
    @Flavius7 Рік тому +5

    As an ex owner of Hd 600 and current owner of Hd650 I can definitely say I have a lot of love for this series. Although Lcd-X, Hifiman He1000Se and Hd 800 are also part of the collection...the 600 series will always have a sweet spot in my heart, as sweet as theirs mids. They all SCALE LIKE HELL with top line dacs and amplifiers! Trust me, if you still think Hifiman Sundara is way better, as I often read...YOU DIDN'T DRIVE THEM TO THEIR FULLEST! I know not many people drive 400-500$ headphones with 5000$ systems, and maybe also doesn't make sense to do so , but...IF YOU DO...OOOH, BOY, what a surprise! Very good description, Sandu, I always appreciate a legend headphone and a legendary reviewer😃👍

  • @sudipchatterjee
    @sudipchatterjee Рік тому +2

    Excellent review! Thanks much, mate! 🙌

  • @bencausey
    @bencausey Рік тому +1

    Thank you. Looking for big soundstage and you answered my question. 👍

  • @sebanambrus9265
    @sebanambrus9265 Рік тому +7

    Very Good review, Wonder how they compare to Focal Clear /MG and HD800 as dynamics , transient response , and technicalities. Also wonder if Sennheiser will update the hd800 series to hd800S2

    • @Leonhart_93
      @Leonhart_93 Рік тому

      I think those are hard to beat in every aspect, as a physically larger driver or bigger cups can't just be compensated for across the board.

  • @bryansheridan6434
    @bryansheridan6434 Рік тому +3

    Very enjoyable review. Picking these up. Was debating between 660s2 vs Meze 109 pros. 6xx with an actual sub/med bass. Looking for an all day wear..

  • @ChefBag
    @ChefBag Рік тому +2

    Great review 👏 👌 👍 keep up the great work

  • @BassDad8
    @BassDad8 5 місяців тому

    Great review! Mine are coming next week and I am going to be pairing them with the Xduoo TA-22. Liked and subbed!

  • @scottlowell493
    @scottlowell493 11 місяців тому +6

    I have the 660s2. Iv'e owned others including the 600 series to the 800S. The ONLY benefit of the overpriced 800S is the sense of "space". The 660s2 bass is better, period. Everything else is just as good as the overpriced 800S. The 660S2 are the flagship of the 600 series, and totally outperform my HD600 and the 650. They made me sell off my 800S.

    • @isaacmettle
      @isaacmettle 7 місяців тому

      I’m a gamer. I have the 660s2. But I want the 800s

    • @user-fc6dk4sz8e
      @user-fc6dk4sz8e 5 місяців тому

      My favorite description to what the hd800s sound like is car speakers on those obnoxious “sports” cars with a fart exhaust. 😂

  • @gomincha7
    @gomincha7 Рік тому +5

    Thank you for your time and review!
    Do these compare to the Meze 109 Pro in any way?

    • @Soundnews
      @Soundnews  Рік тому +10

      Yes and No. 109 PRO are stronger in the bass and brighter in the treble...they could be hot sounding with wrong equipment. HD660 S2 are more linear and not as spicy, although not as technical, accurate and clean as 109 PRO. Here is my graph comparing them both: imgur.com/a/iQtGEcT

    • @georgebradley419
      @georgebradley419 Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the review. I’d definitely prefer the HD660S2 from the graphs you provided. A few reviewers had commented that there is some strange sub bass stuff going on, and the treble is hot on the Meze 109 Pro. I have HD600 and HD650, and now I’m going to buy these new 660S2. I’m not a fan of HiFiman headphones as the are made in China and their QA has always been suspect, and the on,y have a 1 year warranty vs a 2 year warranty on Sennheiser. I’ve been a Sennheiser user for 45 years, and I’ve owned more than 10 different models and have never had an issue.

  • @ryant169
    @ryant169 Рік тому +2

    thanks for the great review. I'll have to demo these when they arrive at stores but it looks like it isn't really going to replace my hd660s which I've been using as my all rounder headphone. more detail and more resolving sounds great but if it's only a step between hd650 and hd800, I don't really have a place for these. I'll have to see

  • @hartyewh1
    @hartyewh1 Рік тому +3

    If EQ'd to Harman would you expect these to have meaningfully punchier and clearer bass than the older versions with the same EQ? Sounds like it and if so then these are a wonderful addition to the line.

  • @PhoggHawk
    @PhoggHawk Рік тому +2

    Great review! I hadn't stumbled upon this channel before, but I was very impressed by your analysis! I subbed and will be checking out some more of your content 🤘

  • @kimberlywentworth9160
    @kimberlywentworth9160 Рік тому +1

    When I get mine, I will give a review on how they sound.

    • @kimberlywentworth9160
      @kimberlywentworth9160 Рік тому +1

      The sound on the HD660s2 is really impressive. The bass does go down to lower actives. The bass is not necessary louder but it goes down to lower frequencies and you can hear the instruments. You can hear the buzz from the guitar amp. Much more detail and not in your face highs. More relaxed. Good for rock. Ipad - Amazon Music HD Jeff Beck Wired 360 Wired. Using a Tube Quad PA-one DAC. You really hear much more detail and the sound is much more full than the HD600. The clamping force on the headphone is a bit strong. Hope it loosens up.

  • @edmundgil6008
    @edmundgil6008 Рік тому

    Thank you! I too own a many headphones, 6 of them being Sennheisers. I never bought the original HD660 S. I think, however, I’m going to have to buy these HD660 S2! Thank you again! 🙏🏽🎶❤️🔥‼️

  • @arthurhaywood2184
    @arthurhaywood2184 Рік тому +3

    I have to admit that these have piqued my interest & I’m tempted. But the reality is that I don’t need them. I already have enough headphones in the sub 1k range that offer different perspectives on sonic reproduction.
    I expect Sennheiser headphones to offer good value. At $600, I expect the 660S2 to compete against headphones up to $1000. With that in mind, I’ll wait until I hear how they stand up to the 109, the Noire, the XS, the Ananda and others in the price range.
    To be honest, I kinda wished they had brought back an improved 700 Series headphone. There’s a glaring gap in their price range that needs to be filled!

    • @DKTD23
      @DKTD23 Рік тому

      Mine showed up today. It's not worth it at $600 considering its the same molds as the other 600 series and the box is even cheaper for them to pack now without the the hardshell casing. $400 at launch would've been more sensible.

  • @mehmetsahin4130
    @mehmetsahin4130 Рік тому +1

    Hi! Thank you for this video! Do you suggest me to use it with fiio k7 ?

  • @rishabhs2010
    @rishabhs2010 Рік тому

    Well explained review !

  • @georgebradley419
    @georgebradley419 Рік тому

    Great review. Do you prefer the HFM Sundara or the 660S2? I want to upgrade my 600’s with a headphone that has better bass extension, and detail.

  • @6643bear
    @6643bear Місяць тому

    Hi , great interesting video, I have 660s with a thicker ear pad which helps a bit with bass, but I have 6xx with custom cans bass mod, which does help at the lower end , however with my new 660s2 with the thicker 1.25” pads they do sound great in the bass , but my 6xx moded sound very similar to the 660s2, but yes definitely more bass than 660s. Regards mark

  • @chinobino7538
    @chinobino7538 8 місяців тому

    i watched star wars with these on the fiio k7 and it was awesome you can hear every single sound at max volume with no distortion

  • @shonen84
    @shonen84 Рік тому +1

    Sooo….these, the Meze 109 Pro or the Focal Clear (MG)? The open back dynamic competition is strong indeed!

  • @aceofspades6667
    @aceofspades6667 Рік тому +1

    seems like a decent midfi step up.. I'll probably never hear one as I don't want to go backwards but still good on Senn for baby steps forward.

  • @nmnate
    @nmnate Рік тому +2

    If I was in the market for another pair of headphones, this would be on my list. I use my HD6xx daily at work, and I think they're a decent all-round headphone. Comfortable, easy to listen to, if a bit veiled and a bit less detailed. I've really wanted to own a pair of HD600, but I just haven't convinced myself that I need to buy them because I've been satisfied with my 6xx for daily use. At home, I'll use PC37x or 38x for gaming, or my LCD-X (2021) for music. My wife also has a pair of HD6xx for use at work. Guess we like Sennheiser, eh? 😅
    FYI - your music in the opening is realllly loud!

    • @mistersurrealist
      @mistersurrealist Рік тому

      I have a similar dilemma. I use my 6XX daily and absolutely love them slightly EQ'd for more treble. I really want an HD 600 but now it seems the HD 660S2 might be a "better" option. What should I buy?! Should I buy both or none?! LOL.

  • @JMAudioEditions
    @JMAudioEditions Рік тому +1

    HD660S2 38mm kinda small Im thinking my JM Audio modded 600= 42mm and really sound nice- my XTC sound even better

  • @XeonX__ASMR__METAL-experiments

    Can open back IEMs (especially planars like Raptgo Hook x HBB) be SoundStagy and Images like this Big Headphones, or like Sundara ?

  • @Nath-rg2qd
    @Nath-rg2qd Рік тому +1

    Recently purchased a pair of hd600's and although they sound great i do find them a little bit shouty and somewhat fatiguing as i'm pretty sensitive to the higher frequencies. I was considering selling them and replacing them with the 650s but now unsure weather to go for these instead. Would you recommend the 660s2 over the 650?

    • @kimberlywentworth9160
      @kimberlywentworth9160 Рік тому

      Yes, I have the HD600 and they sound weak and thin. They have decent detail and comfortable to wear. I just ordered a pair of 660s2.

    • @Nath-rg2qd
      @Nath-rg2qd Рік тому

      @@kimberlywentworth9160 do post an update how they compare to the 600s!

    • @kimberlywentworth9160
      @kimberlywentworth9160 Рік тому +1

      @@Nath-rg2qd The sound on the HD660s2 is really impressive. The bass does go down to lower actives. The bass is not necessary louder but it goes down to lower frequencies and you can hear the instruments. You can hear the buzz from the guitar amp. Much more detail and not in your face highs. More relaxed. Good for rock. Ipad - Amazon Music HD Jeff Beck Wired 360 Wired. Using a Tube Quad PA-one DAC. You really hear much more detail and the sound is much more full than the HD600. The clamping force on the headphone is a bit strong. Hope it loosens up.

    • @6643bear
      @6643bear Місяць тому

      If you did by 650 and fitted the custom Cans bass mod and sound to my ears similar to 660s2. Regards mark

  • @Reeeepicheep
    @Reeeepicheep Рік тому +1

    How was the tube synergy on this headphone versus the 6xx?

  • @danielzweipunktnull2670
    @danielzweipunktnull2670 Рік тому +1

    Did you try mojo 2? I'm wandering how the S2 behaves with the power output.
    HD660 do just well with it, while XS desires for a little more.

    • @kimberlywentworth9160
      @kimberlywentworth9160 Рік тому

      Yes, the S2 uses the Sabre ESS DAC. This is a clinical sterial sounding DAC. I prefer the Bur Brown DAC. Has a more rounded sound without the ragged edges that the ESS generates.

    • @danielzweipunktnull2670
      @danielzweipunktnull2670 Рік тому +1

      @@kimberlywentworth9160 well, no offence but your answer makes basically no sense in regard of my question.

  • @cs8844
    @cs8844 Рік тому +1

    How do you think they compare to 800S?

  • @ignasivila1879
    @ignasivila1879 Рік тому

    Nice! Can you recomend an amp near 200€ for the HD660s2?

  • @kimberlywentworth9160
    @kimberlywentworth9160 Рік тому

    Which portable DAC's did you use. The sound is so bad in the video, I could not hear clearly on what DAC you stated they work good with.

  • @zqa20
    @zqa20 Рік тому

    Have you had the chance to test the focal clears? If yes, how do they compare?

  • @isadorealire5722
    @isadorealire5722 Рік тому

    Given a choice... These, or the 109 Pro?

  • @ajipray6624
    @ajipray6624 Рік тому +2

    Is this good choice for upgrade my hd560s?

    • @Soundnews
      @Soundnews  Рік тому +2

      Tonality is warmer and the sound is fuller bodied and punchier. If you need these skills, sure, why not?

    • @chrisbianchi8876
      @chrisbianchi8876 Рік тому

      I prefer the 560s. You can't eq soundstage and the 560s just do it better and can be eq'd easily.

  • @kmwong1786
    @kmwong1786 Рік тому +1

    Does it pair well with Shanling M7? Balanced? Single ended?

    • @Soundnews
      @Soundnews  Рік тому +3

      Via 4.4mm balanced M7 drives them beautifully

  • @headamuse
    @headamuse 9 місяців тому

    I can't believe they still don't fold flat.

  • @Anomalyn1
    @Anomalyn1 Рік тому

    Isn't that frequency response in the treble region missing? I don't understand that huge gap.

  • @undefeatedmc
    @undefeatedmc Рік тому +1

    I purchased the 660s in 2017 when it came out, It always lacked sub bass and I think this is what the 660s should have been released as, but they underestimated Hifiman when they released the Sundara in 2018.
    Do you think these are worth getting over the 660s?

    • @Tripokaridos22
      @Tripokaridos22 Рік тому +1

      I have Sundara they are amazing but not better than my 660s. Yes they have more low end and soundstage but everything else is better on 660s.
      Also 660s can EQ easy

    • @TheColorization
      @TheColorization Рік тому

      @@Tripokaridos22hey man I know you ! You own all 6xx headphones, are you getting the s2 ? What is your thoughts about it?

    • @Tripokaridos22
      @Tripokaridos22 Рік тому +2

      @@TheColorization Yeah i have all the HD 6 line and 5 line , HD 660s are my favorite Headphones from all line , that doesnt mean that i dont like the others :). I will talk to Ichos a friend reviewer from Greece so maybe he could find me S2 pair . I will buy them for sure . But honestly i dont get all that hype about some db more on Low End , for example I Have Sundara that have more db on low end that i like but overall tonality is better on HD660s . And every time i EQ my HD660s giving them some DB more on Low End at first it feels WOW but after listening ang Listening mostly at night without any outside noise i turn off the EQ because they Sound to me more relaxed more natural without that boos on Low End, So If S2 have manage to have the Character of HD660s and that vocals with a little bit of more low end , then ok that would be great.

    • @Tripokaridos22
      @Tripokaridos22 Рік тому +1

      @@TheColorization HD660s already have really good imaging and separation and dynamics even compared to my Focal Clear MG and Sundara, So i really cant imagine that HD660S2 have better imaging and speed and if thats true honestly i dont expect something more than 10% better , it would not be like going from HD650 to 660s speed and imaging. But I dont have S2 to know so i have to wait for them to come to Greece , until now No Store have them and Sennheiser that i contact doesnt also have them in my Country . I will wait .

    • @TheColorization
      @TheColorization Рік тому

      @@Tripokaridos22 thank you. please let me know your opinion whenever you give them a listen!

  • @JoseFerreira-zb7wh
    @JoseFerreira-zb7wh Рік тому

    Would also really like it if you could review ibasso sr3.

  • @vainxler
    @vainxler Рік тому

    What about the timbre?

  • @olenronning5868
    @olenronning5868 Рік тому

    What headphone stand is that in the video?

  • @Krell666
    @Krell666 Рік тому

    I wonder how these compare to HD800?

  • @uwemariansteinke972
    @uwemariansteinke972 Рік тому

    hd 660s2 or Hifiman Ananda or Edition xs what do you think? Thanks and greetings from Salzburg/Austria

    • @dillacorn_linux
      @dillacorn_linux Рік тому

      HD 660S2.. I have the Ananda and a HD 660 S. I usually run with the Ananda but just recently went back to HD 660 S my wife use and out of my collection she prefers... I maybe was blind to how weak and thin the mids sounded on my Ananda.. Mid frequencies are probably one of the most important frequencies for music and I'm now considering selling my Ananda and HD 600 to grab a HD 660 S2.
      I'd say grab the HD 660S2... But if you need sound stage save some money and go with a Hifiman Arya if you can afford it. But I bet the HD 660S2 have a smoother frequency response than the Arya.
      I used to want more detail..and the Ananda gave me that but I lost the smoothness the HD 660 S provided to my ears...

    • @thaflybear
      @thaflybear Рік тому

      @@dillacorn_linux Ananda non stealth?

    • @dillacorn_linux
      @dillacorn_linux Рік тому

      @@thaflybear non-stealth

  • @nicktan4530
    @nicktan4530 Рік тому +1

    I seriously need friendly help, if anyone. Many seems to dislike me.

    • @Soundnews
      @Soundnews  Рік тому +3

      Seed kindness and you'll get the same treatment everywhere and always.

    • @nicktan4530
      @nicktan4530 Рік тому

      @@Soundnews I am kind, always. What am saying is to get the HD660s or HD660s2

  • @loki76
    @loki76 Рік тому

    Sucks about the soundstage. I always prefer wide open soundstage. The reason is I use headphones for games and movies. So I want the big open wide sound. To make it sound like you're IN the game or movie. Not a claustrophobic in your head sound. I get that is more preferrable for music. But it sucks I want the better bass and the resolving sound. But it is always got to be something. Ugh!

  • @Tripokaridos22
    @Tripokaridos22 Рік тому

    Red coil whine ; i didnt expect that

  • @TimberWulfIsHere
    @TimberWulfIsHere Рік тому

    Wonder if I could buy the drivers by themselves and swap them into my 6xx

    • @ChillToMusic87
      @ChillToMusic87 Рік тому

      That is a very good idea. I'm not sure if they still do but years ago, you could buy just the drivers themselves for the Hd 600 and 650.

  • @nikolaygramchev
    @nikolaygramchev Рік тому +2

    This is what I was afraid of hearing - sound stage narrower than 560s.

    • @donnytramp6955
      @donnytramp6955 Рік тому

      hd6x0 are below average for soundstage for openbacks

    • @chrisbianchi8876
      @chrisbianchi8876 Рік тому +1

      I like the 560s better than the 660s. My 600 is my favorite. My 6xx needs eq, less mid bass (- 3db at 200hz) and a slight treble boost (+ 2db 6500hz) and a 3 db low shelf at 80 hz. After that it sounds excellent

    • @georgebradley419
      @georgebradley419 Рік тому

      I love my 600 as well, but I’ve always felt a need for more low end extension. This new 660S2 may be the ticket!

    • @chrisbianchi8876
      @chrisbianchi8876 Рік тому

      @@georgebradley419 Try a 3 db low shelf boost at 80hz. To me it makes the 600 the perfect headphone aside from wishing for a little more soundstage.

    • @donnytramp6955
      @donnytramp6955 Рік тому

      @@georgebradley419 Do you want to sacrifice your upper mids for bass though, I'd rather get the focal elex instead

  • @davidbruce8786
    @davidbruce8786 Рік тому +1

    Took 29 years to get to a jagged uneven upper mid/treble? Well done.

  • @MrKeech666
    @MrKeech666 Рік тому

    Why not call it the HD 665S? 🤔

    • @haukikannel
      @haukikannel Рік тому

      Most likely because these replase 660s in their product portfolio, with 665s they would have keep 660s in the market.

  • @kimberlywentworth9160
    @kimberlywentworth9160 Рік тому +1

    The sound in the video is terrible.

  • @Tripokaridos22
    @Tripokaridos22 Рік тому

    Omg where did u find it ? U must be the first One

  • @mariodrv
    @mariodrv Рік тому +1

    Something is off with your sound in this one.

    • @kimberlywentworth9160
      @kimberlywentworth9160 Рік тому

      I noticed that also and make a comment. The sound in the video is terrible. Funny coming form someone that is reviewing high end headphones. A lot of people just can not hear very well and do not care how things sound. I am a little strange in that I am very sensitive to how things sound. When I review the headphones, I will let you know who they sound. I will pair it to my tube DAC and my dragonfly portable dac from my Iphone - If it can drive it.

  • @soulfulfool
    @soulfulfool Рік тому

    so where I can buy them lol

  • @DibsonAlexaBliss
    @DibsonAlexaBliss Рік тому +1

    Hd 650 are just as resolving as hd 600. Their treble is just not pushed in the face

  • @zzezzobike
    @zzezzobike Рік тому

    660s were not a match to 650 or 600. If you know real, live music and instruments it was a downgrade in 600 lineup. I owed 4 different 660s and usually selling them in a matter of days, keeping 650. Let me try these and I will let you know if it can replace 650. Thanks for review as always, you bring best and newest ahead of other guys. Salud

    • @JohnSmith-oe4bw
      @JohnSmith-oe4bw Рік тому

      650/6xx is the most balanced in the line up, but with EQ the 660s has the smoothest timbre. With EQ flat, the 650 is the best.

  • @VokpyrAudio
    @VokpyrAudio Рік тому +1

    2

  • @jrusso3
    @jrusso3 Рік тому +2

    Meh, sounds like more of the same. They read like they sound too laid back to replace anything in my lineup. Maybe in another 19 years they'll figure out how to give us the best of the 600 & 800 series.

    • @DigitalDave65
      @DigitalDave65 Рік тому +2

      The word "slightly" was used too much for me to spend $600 on a pair of headphones that are "slightly this" and "slightly that". Maybe a Black Friday deal but for now, thank you for a great review and for saving me a fair amount of cash. I'm sure I will get a pair just not right now.

  • @angelOcrisu
    @angelOcrisu Рік тому

    Man...I thought this channel is from a slavic country not Romania. You need to work on your english accent.
    I have the 1st 660 and will keep and enjoy them while they last. The best sound signature for me.
    Hai noroc.

    • @ChillToMusic87
      @ChillToMusic87 Рік тому +1

      He needs to work on his English accent? Bit rude of you I think. Why should anyone put on an accent when speaking a foreign language?

    • @angelOcrisu
      @angelOcrisu Рік тому

      @@ChillToMusic87 To improve it

    • @MacXpert74
      @MacXpert74 Рік тому

      There's nothing wrong with his accent. He's easy to understand.