Bethany: Proud Family's Ch!ld Groomer 💄💄💄

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  • My reaction to Bethany from The Proud Family episode Hip Hop Helicopter where she grooms Dijonay along with Penny, Zoey and LaCienega. What do yall think of her character? Let's discuss it down below. Please don't forget to comment ,like and subscribe. Thank You!!!
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  • @pibawww
    @pibawww 2 місяці тому +586

    groomers can be ANYONE, even young, pretty women.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  2 місяці тому +74

      ‼‼‼

    • @Neku628
      @Neku628 2 місяці тому +85

      I wonder if the girls' parents trusted Bethany because she's a teenager and typically, adults don't think of teenagers as being predatory.

    • @Acacius1992
      @Acacius1992 2 місяці тому +2

      Preach. Grooming, R*pe, Sex *fenders too! EVERYONE male or female can be such a disgusting person.

    • @Bahr-im7pn
      @Bahr-im7pn 2 місяці тому +34

      @@Neku628 True. If anything, they're often portrayed as they prey in movies and TV about this stuff. I was gonna give an example, but it's a poorly-made and really traumatizing movie, and I don't want to direct anyone to it.

    • @CarrotSpunk.
      @CarrotSpunk. 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Neku628 I was groomed by a teenager my parents trusted me with only for him to take advantage of me :(

  • @michaelfragoso6572
    @michaelfragoso6572 2 місяці тому +393

    You should also talk about dijonay’s terrible parents who don’t parent their 11 kids instead they leave Dijonay to look after all her siblings 24/7 and both are the reason why dijonay sucks as a person

    • @LizWhite.
      @LizWhite. 2 місяці тому +100

      I absolutely can’t stand when parents let the older siblings basically raise their younger siblings.

    • @Neku628
      @Neku628 2 місяці тому +60

      @@LizWhite. Yeah, there's a name for it, parentification. Heck, it's pretty much expected for older kids to look after their younger siblings, be like a third or fourth parent. That's why some people wanted to have large families.
      The Duggars even had a whole system called the Buddy System where the younger siblings were passed off to the older siblings once the newborn was weaned. So, basically, a five-year-old kid would be looking after their six-month-old sibling.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  2 місяці тому +75

      I did one about Penny, I think it's about time for a Dijonay parentification video

    • @Bahr-im7pn
      @Bahr-im7pn 2 місяці тому +5

      @@TonyTurner And the reboot thought it was woke! The only person whose eyes are open to the situation is you, Tony.

    • @Editer473
      @Editer473 2 місяці тому +5

      @Neku628 my cousin had to look over her brother since he was 8 her parents didn't help her she's now 23, and they still force her to. I feel so bad for her because he hits people to .

  • @Pr3tty_princezz
    @Pr3tty_princezz 2 місяці тому +419

    I am 15 and I will say that I feel so sad that many girls my age and even younger feel such a rush to grow up because now in this time we don’t really have a space for teens to be teens. Disney channel is dead basically. Tween stores like justice our closed and now we trade the glitter and dolls for makeup and certain clothes at the age of 12….i do wear crop tops as my mom allows it but my mom puts her limits and I am so happy she does.

    • @tell-me-a-story-
      @tell-me-a-story- 2 місяці тому +14

      Good for you!!❤❤

    • @abiliv-lf9tz
      @abiliv-lf9tz 2 місяці тому +11

      13yo hii
      11yos are reading 18+ Wattpad and honestly I'ma ask her for suggestions 😭🤣

    • @Neku628
      @Neku628 2 місяці тому +8

      Heck, even in my time as a teenager, churches pretty much made kids want to grow up too fast because teenagers got to do all of these "cool outings" like go to a water park, have their own place away from the younger kids with our own Christian rock band.

    • @oooh19
      @oooh19 2 місяці тому +12

      Well it’s just like weird they eliminated that age bracket as the preteens aren’t little but aren’t teens yet either. So why exclude that demographic? Just like even within adulthood there are many different age groups.

    • @Pr3tty_princezz
      @Pr3tty_princezz 2 місяці тому +8

      @@oooh19 exactly preteen culture is kind of essential as a slow entry way to becoming a teen. It’s a good in between of saying hello to being teen but at the same time holding onto the good parts of being a kid

  • @AliceHobbes
    @AliceHobbes 2 місяці тому +122

    what I like that when Bethany was trying to convince Penny's parents to allow Penny to go, Oscar was shaking his head. This shows that Oscar had heard this type of talk before and able to see through Bethany lies. Maybe like with Sugar Mama, Oscar can see the fakeness of CERTAIN people.

    • @juandiegotorres9632
      @juandiegotorres9632 2 місяці тому +10

      Oscar can be based sometimes.

    • @amylee8969
      @amylee8969 2 місяці тому +4

      Wasn’t Bethany related to Dijonay? That alone says A LOT.

    • @AliceHobbes
      @AliceHobbes 2 місяці тому

      @amylee8969 Yeah, she is Dijonay's cousin. I agree that there tells you

  • @blackkitty369
    @blackkitty369 2 місяці тому +132

    Society paints preditors as ugly men but no, most of the time they are attractive in both genders or even close family members. Sad thing is I can see myself doing the same as Dijonay because I really trust my family members at that age and probably would be in that situation. You're right about being careful of who you keep around you.

    • @ApplebyAce
      @ApplebyAce 2 місяці тому +5

      What’s up with society always portraying villains as ugly people?

    • @glitterboxx19
      @glitterboxx19 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@ApplebyAce it's society's way of making it clear that those people aren't to be trusted

    • @the_indecisiveartist_5850
      @the_indecisiveartist_5850 23 дні тому

      But then, people stop associating beautiful people from being groomers. However, even if they DO show that attractive people are groomers, kids won't always understand it they would just think 'Oh how cool! I wanna be like that!'. I wanted to be a pageant star or child actor as a kid because it seemed so glamorous, and I was always told about stranger danger.

  • @lordfreerealestate8302
    @lordfreerealestate8302 2 місяці тому +114

    Thanks for bringing up the Sephora kids, but that's what I'm reminded of when I think of adultification.

    • @Blast2224
      @Blast2224 2 місяці тому

      Sephora and kids don't belong in the same utterance.

  • @aquatickuri
    @aquatickuri 2 місяці тому +184

    I work retail and seeing any young girls dressed in makeup of adult/teen clothes just upsets me.... because by allowing these things on our young girls, to be "Adult" it basically tells preditors that our kids are open to them. The fact that shield bras will have padding freaks me out...
    I just hate what most trends and adult influences do to our young girls in the world

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  2 місяці тому +27

      It's becoming the norm now. Some young girls seem to be skipping the pre teen stage

    • @aquatickuri
      @aquatickuri 2 місяці тому +6

      @@TonyTurner it makes me so sad... Growing up doesn't need to be so fast

    • @Nakia11798
      @Nakia11798 2 місяці тому +3

      Shield bras???

    • @sarahlachman1349
      @sarahlachman1349 2 місяці тому +2

      To be fair between 14 and 16 were legal age in ALL Nations before WWII, women were expected to become mothers early in the prime of their youth, same thing with boys.
      Sweet 16s, Bat Mitzvah and other comming of age ceremonies were big deals back in the day. We spoil people too much these day and are arogant to how humanity lived for over 10,000 years. Its natual for teens to want to be adults, beause they were such for most of human history. Today 26 us barely considered an adult and that's just about the halfway point to the average lifespan. That said given today's norms we could try to do a better job, but it won't be easy. Working in a school of teens all day isn't easy. The best way though is to be real with them and hope you get true to them without having to say I told you so, but that too is part of growing up. On the other hand parents who encourage such things should be repimended more.

    • @gabrielleduplessis7388
      @gabrielleduplessis7388 2 місяці тому +15

      While I do agree with you, I hate how it is the woman’s or kid’s job to not appeal to predator’s, mainly men, when it is the man’s or predator’s job to not look at minors as a love interest or sexual object.
      God, it is them that needs to be educated to respect people and not just see them as sexual objects.
      Sorry. I guess I needed to rant. I do agree with you. I just hate that women and children have to worry about this at a young age. Any age, but especially at a young one.

  • @rhonnichan
    @rhonnichan 2 місяці тому +90

    There needs to be a discussion of teenage girls grooming younger girls because said teenage girls are being groomed by adults
    Its a pipeline.
    And mind you, a child can be groomed no matter what they wear, i was wearing jeans and a band tee when it happened to me but the need for these young girls have to be in skimpy outfits is so disturbing

  • @FearlessFighterAkida
    @FearlessFighterAkida 2 місяці тому +100

    I know the guys at the party aren't really set up to be sympathetic, but I can't imagine being one of the dudes at a party. Imagine being probably a relatively decent but horny teenage dude, chatting up a girl you think is close to your age but yo friend who brought them knows they're wayyy too young for you but told them to lie about their age. Bethany settin' up every dude at that party to catch a fucking case bro
    And on the growing up too fast - I think a lot of it is enabled by the parents. They want their kids to be able to self express, be happy, etc. but don't check them because sometimes kids do think they're more grown than they actually are. And like - I get and agree with the idea that clothes and makeup shouldn't be inherently sexual, but some clothes, makeup, piercings, etc. really do make you look older and that is kinda dangerous on both ends even if you don't factor in predators or people that intentionally seek out minors. Like my folks weren''t *incredibly* strict with what I was allowed to wear and do, but certain things was just not happening. If I wanted something they thought was inappropriate for my age, they straight up told me it wasn't happening and to wait till I get grown with my own money.
    Like at the party - imagine chatting to someone trying to catch their vibe and thinking that they're close to your age but in actuality they're way too young for you but you wouldn't be able to tell because there are no tween stores for girls between the ages of 13 - 16. They go from dressing and acting like they're 12 to dressing, looking and acting like they're 20 because there are no stores and spaces that cater to them specifically and all of these brands that historically (for lack of better words) have been for grown women are trying to get money from tweens and teens while not making any lines or things that are specifically meant to be appropriate for them.
    Like take something like Drunk Elephant for example. The brand has largely been marketed and targetted towards older and adult women due to the anti aging properties but now kids are obsessed with it. And while yeah *some* products may be fine for kids to use because they don't have a lot of active ingredients, Drunk Elephant doesn't have a line of product *specifically meant* for children and a lot of their products are not cheap either. And it's the same with so much else.

    • @oooh19
      @oooh19 2 місяці тому +5

      yea they can make a line of Drunk Elephant w/ ingredients for children. why wouldn't they be all for that?

  • @MsDisneylandlover
    @MsDisneylandlover 2 місяці тому +44

    Yall better hip hop out of my car 😂

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  2 місяці тому +4

      😅😅😅

    • @MsDisneylandlover
      @MsDisneylandlover 2 місяці тому

      @@TonyTurner hey tony u wear the best shirts. Your cat is so cute. Can you do some dance mom topic and also there is a cool topic on rugrats all grown up where Susie's gose bad. I saw something on UA-cam regarding it in my UA-cam feed. The episode is call Susie's gose bad lite or something to that nature. I feel it is something right up your alley. It's is about how Susie is this perfect student but she is pick on bc she is to perfect and they think she cant be bad. So she tries to be bad and gets herself in some trouble. I mean its nothing major abd slightly silly of what she ends up doing but her parents went off on. Maybe u can do a segment on that episode. Maybe you can look into it. I think u may like it. Thanks for considering this topic and nice day. Maybe this is dealing with peer pressure or personality image or idk..

  • @liamfitzdrums
    @liamfitzdrums 2 місяці тому +89

    I'd be curious to see a sequel episode to Hip Hop Helicopter where the girls are a bit older and realize what happened to them so they confront Bethany about it. It could be interesting.

  • @stardrop_love
    @stardrop_love 2 місяці тому +244

    I feel like one of the main reasons why Bethanny gets overlooked is honestly how awkwardly framed the episode was.
    Yes, don't grow up too fast, they were still 14 and they should be acting/dressing like they are 14; but there is a certain element of blaming the girls for being pushed into that situation because of the 'don't grow up too fast' angle. That angle is very tricky to go for without somehow making it the victims fault.
    It's likely because of it that people saw it was the girls fault they were pushed into that situation; like the whole "oh if you didn't go on that stage with these revealing clothes, bethanny wouldn't have creeped on you, this is your fault why this happened."
    Girls are little girls. They are not aware what they're doing/wearing is sexual and just think its cool the older girls are doing it. I feel like people, espeically like Bethanny, forget that they are just children. She should've known better.

    • @Neku628
      @Neku628 2 місяці тому

      The men, boys and Bethany should have been held responsible. The girls can dress how they want, it's just I wish the guys and Bethany got their comeuppance for being weirdos to the girls. Guys are able to control themselves, I wish that was something a lot of shows like the Proud Family would put emphasis on, instead of it just being, "Oh, you shouldn't dress like a wh@re if you don't want to be objectified."
      I wish the girls got praise from their parents for standing up to the creepy teenage boys, instead of just being grounded. I'm glad Penny, Dijonay and Lacienega were there to bail Zoey out of making a terrible mistake.
      I can see why Zoey would want to have sex, since she's always mistreated by everyone, including her own so-called friends. "Hey, someone's noticing me! I must not be a complete loser that nobody would waste two cents on."

    • @oooh19
      @oooh19 2 місяці тому +9

      Wait a minute many tweens might want to wear different clothes but also there’s peer pressure and norms for what to wear

    • @yanrokbowl28
      @yanrokbowl28 2 місяці тому +5

      "Girls are little girls" = That statement makes no sense.
      "They are not aware what they're doing/wearing is sexual and just think its cool if the older girls are doing it" If a child or group of children lacks awareness on how inappropriate or dangerous something is, then it's better to educate them rather than excuse or dismiss them.
      "I feel like people, especially Bethany, forget that they are just children. She should've known better." Exactly right. Bethany should have known better. And when Penny knew about why her parents did not approve of the outfits, she decided to disobey them anyway when their backs were turned. Penny, LaCienega, and Dijonay only stopped wearing those outfits when the boys' behaviors openly made them uncomfortable.

  • @Puppetgirl93
    @Puppetgirl93 2 місяці тому +50

    There are creepy predators everywhere!

  • @saphire1sababy378
    @saphire1sababy378 2 місяці тому +22

    I definitely think there’s a huge difference between allowing your kid to play with makeup and allowing your kid to feel pressured into dressing themselves up ,

  • @briasinterlude1755
    @briasinterlude1755 2 місяці тому +32

    Great analysis, I didn’t even think about it that deep myself. Of course, being toxic runs in Dijonay’s family.

  • @OfficialKeyah
    @OfficialKeyah 2 місяці тому +28

    When I was younger, I only seen the episode as a way to teach kids not to rebel against their parents but watching this video and re-encountering the episode, I realize how it was also a way to teach kids that groomers can be anybody, stay alert on their surroundings and not be followers

  • @Nakia11798
    @Nakia11798 2 місяці тому +28

    Lazy and uncaring parents are the issues. Good parents wouldn't let their children dress or act maturely.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  2 місяці тому +8

      Right ‼ And everyone thought Oscar was over reacting at first

    • @oooh19
      @oooh19 2 місяці тому +2

      @@TonyTurner most of the time Oscar does overreact though

    • @kitleecaplinger2987
      @kitleecaplinger2987 2 місяці тому

      It that situation with the hip pop Oscar had a right to be upset and over reacting

  • @fuzzylittlespider
    @fuzzylittlespider 2 місяці тому +28

    Beauty pageants for children DISGUST ME! I remember I watched one episode of toddlers in tiaras it made me SICK! 🤢

    • @BratzRockAngels
      @BratzRockAngels 2 місяці тому +4

      The whole concept of beauty pageants is just weird. The fact that parents actually enter their children is gross.

    • @the_indecisiveartist_5850
      @the_indecisiveartist_5850 23 дні тому +1

      The fact I wanted to be one as a kid when watching toddlers and tiaras says a lot about how childs' minds work. They just see they are playing dress up and dancing and singing, not that they are being preyed upon by older men and women.

  • @lynnestuckey8632
    @lynnestuckey8632 2 місяці тому +18

    I started wearing makeup at 12, but it was the cheap dollar store makeup, and it was reserved for picture day, or a family wedding. My mom was always there to help me make it look natural and not to heavy.

  • @bradleyharris774
    @bradleyharris774 2 місяці тому +18

    NGL when I watched this episode as kid I always thought it was weird and creepy but couldn't exactly explain why. 20 years later as an adult and with all these cases of celebrities and influencers grooming minors, this episode is incredibly disturbing.

  • @anthonyrivera4547
    @anthonyrivera4547 2 місяці тому +50

    If it wasn't for Tony, TOONNNNY OOH OH

  • @GlitchyOnAChair
    @GlitchyOnAChair 2 місяці тому +46

    I knew this episode always gave me the creepy
    I'm so glad people are talking about this

  • @lextonwilliams2627
    @lextonwilliams2627 2 місяці тому +58

    I’am glad you made this video because as I got older i saw this episode last night keep up the great work

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  2 місяці тому +10

      Thanks ‼ Looking back on it as an adult, I see the severity of this episode even more now

  • @geardog24
    @geardog24 2 місяці тому +32

    If only we could’ve had an epilogue where the parents got a hold of Bethany just to have a little “discussion” on what she did with their children.

  • @SarahModlin
    @SarahModlin 2 місяці тому +8

    I love this episode because it does a good job of showing us that groomers can be anyone (not just adult men) and that girls are pressured into looking/acting older. I also loved Trudy's chat with Penny about her outfit and being sexualized.
    It's ok if you want to feel sexy and dress a certain way, but it's also important to recognize that the people around will treat you differently and try to take advantage of you. I wish more teen girls would understand this concept, especially when older men use the phrase "you're mature for your age".

  • @OnyxTheAltGirl
    @OnyxTheAltGirl 2 місяці тому +48

    Ik this is serious, but why was the first thing I thought when I saw this "iTs ThE tOxIc GoSsIp TrAiN"

  • @RavenHaili
    @RavenHaili 2 місяці тому +24

    Thank you for pointing this out, also I've been noticing street clothing has been marketed more towards children. Some Dan Schneider type tihs

    • @Nakia11798
      @Nakia11798 2 місяці тому +5

      Supply and demand, there are issues on both ends. On the demand end, we can blame uncaring parents and social influencers; and on the supply end, we can blame the ones making that sort of clothing in sizes small enough for tweens, as well as the stores marketing/selling them.

  • @nataliestillwell7430
    @nataliestillwell7430 2 місяці тому +8

    It means a lot to me that the other video addressed the sexualization of the kids and their feelings and this one talks about Bethany's problematic behavior. Both are important topics worthy of their own videos but it tugged at my heartstrings that it wasn't all just lumped together, the girls all got their own video, it just feels symbolic to me that their video came first and you didn't lump it all together. Thank you!

  • @electrical829
    @electrical829 2 місяці тому +8

    8:48 Exactly. Predators can be anyone. The amount of child predators that aren't acknowledged as or considered to be groomers just because they don't fit the certain groomer "look" is seriously dangerous.

  • @Rikrobat
    @Rikrobat 2 місяці тому +14

    I think it's important for parents to support their kids' efforts to express themselves, including clothing and makeup. However, it's also important to make sure children/teens are aware that there are people who will mistreat them and to be careful as they adventure into figuring out their identity,

  • @Neku628
    @Neku628 2 місяці тому +28

    6:01 After you showed the girls dancing, could you have shown Oscar's reaction and how his bowling ball rammed into some other customers. Also, could you include that scene where Oscar chased that teenage boy who said, "Dude, that's your daughter? She's HOT!"

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  2 місяці тому +8

      I showed those scenes in the last video. Oscar was the only parent who had an appropriate reaction from the beginning

    • @oooh19
      @oooh19 2 місяці тому +2

      @@TonyTurner yea why would you say that to someone's parent?

  • @noranjoku7651
    @noranjoku7651 2 місяці тому +10

    I love that you’re wearing an Aaliyah t-shirt when discussing this subject. Though probably not intentional it gives insight to what she probably went through

    • @92JazzQueen
      @92JazzQueen 2 місяці тому +3

      We all loathe r kelly here.

  • @lynettebrown91
    @lynettebrown91 2 місяці тому +52

    Elvis is predo to dating a 14 year old who’s now his wife .

    • @tell-me-a-story-
      @tell-me-a-story- 2 місяці тому +14

      Yeah, I think people tend to Excuse him just because they liked him.

    • @Neku628
      @Neku628 2 місяці тому +20

      @@tell-me-a-story- Especially since he's known as the King of Rock and Roll. He seemed to get off on a lot of the attention his teenage/tween fangirls gave him.

    • @oooh19
      @oooh19 2 місяці тому

      Yea but it’s normal to admire a celebrity though

    • @Nakia11798
      @Nakia11798 2 місяці тому +2

      A lot of people don't know about that. I discovered it recently and was so disappointed to learn about it. Those times were so bad for being openly gross.

    • @Jack_Ministry6667
      @Jack_Ministry6667 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Neku628 It’s like that one Boondocks episode about r Kelly. 💀

  • @alexisgrey3633
    @alexisgrey3633 2 місяці тому +8

    Great video and love the Aaliyah t-shirt.

  • @Alex-nc2eu
    @Alex-nc2eu 2 місяці тому +10

    Its a shame these messages flew over my head when i first saw this episode. But it's terrifying that it's real and it can come from your own home, and from the people you're supposed to trust.

  • @corpsenymph4644
    @corpsenymph4644 2 місяці тому +4

    I think you did a good job talking about how you disagree with the way younger girls dress without making them out to be at fault if they get abused. Scantily clad or not, young people still get abused by disgusting individuals who think it’s okay, no, WANT to exploit minors, and that’s not the fault of anyone but the perpetrators themselves and sometimes the guardians.

  • @idanceforthestars
    @idanceforthestars 2 місяці тому +21

    BRUH ITS sad but true

  • @KeeksSnoogie79
    @KeeksSnoogie79 2 місяці тому +16

    Yoooo, I'm in the process of an animation series or a comic not sure yet that is touching on these subjects been working on it for 3 years now, and this episode was the catalyst of inspiration for me...its so sad how this is and still a thing these days and awareness need to be still established :( this episode really had me flipped when Iw watched it as an adult again and Bethany was a straight predator and didn't even care even threatened them. smh

  • @chanpost4
    @chanpost4 2 місяці тому +6

    Yes, Bethany does have Madam vibes in retrospect. Also, Ghislaine Maxwell and the women (higher up ones) of Nxivm too.

  • @kerisaltchannel3817
    @kerisaltchannel3817 2 місяці тому +12

    If I were dijonay I would have told my parents and hopefully the parents tell Bethany’s parents and then she gets punished idk how I think she should be in jail for child endangerment but idk if that’s how it works

    • @inkling457
      @inkling457 2 місяці тому +1

      I honestly don't think Dijonay's parents would've cared. But Penny's definitely would've.

    • @kerisaltchannel3817
      @kerisaltchannel3817 2 місяці тому +3

      @@inkling457 if that’s the case I would have told someone else’s parents or something bc wtf

  • @Neku628
    @Neku628 2 місяці тому +18

    I'm just curious how Dijonay was able to stand up for herself and tell the dudes to "BACK OFF!" while Zoey had to be pretty much dragged out by her friends, so that she wouldn't make a terrible mistake that her parents would have pretty much got onto her about. I had that happen in my own life, I see myself in a lot of Dijonay and Zoey. The overweight loser that every male is "too good for" and the kid that was expected to be a free babysitter because the parents are always absent for some reason.
    Bethany is also different from me because what happened to me when I was eleven, the guy was a teen; he wasn't interested in my little sister, just me. So, he told her to wish on some magic rocks. He had me to himself and when I got home, my mom pretty much tore my eleven-year-old hiney up because I "put my sister at risk" and "I put myself at risk when I was supposed to be looking after my little sister."
    There's a lot of mental development between a neurotypical seventeen-year-old and an autistic eleven-year-old, who pretty much never got the sex talk.

    • @oooh19
      @oooh19 2 місяці тому +4

      well why would a parent blame an 11 year old though?

    • @TheLalacream
      @TheLalacream 2 місяці тому

      The difference between them is that Dijonay has a high self-esteem, which Zoey lacks.
      Also your mom can go eat a bag of rocks, she should have been yelling at the 17 yrold and reported him to the police.

  • @CherryFizzOfficial
    @CherryFizzOfficial 2 місяці тому +6

    As an older cousin to many young children, I could not imagine being this horrible to them, no matter what the situation was. That being said, I don't think younger girls (or younger people of any gender :) ) wearing makeup is always a problem. It entirely depends on how they and their guardians view it. I've liked makeup since I was very young, but I didn't have the idea that it was necessary for people to like me or for me to grow up, it was just a fun hobby, and my mom introduced me to it gradually because it's a fun hobby for her too. I'd say that healthy views about 'beauty' products and education about how they work is important for the young people who enjoy using them, and it should not always be associated with this toxic misconception of growing up and popularity

  • @andyawe13
    @andyawe13 2 місяці тому +4

    This video was so good! I remember the iconic profits and dance. Don't remember Bethany at all. Seems like she was working on her own, but women are used to put women and girls at ease, so it's definitely something to look out for

    • @oooh19
      @oooh19 2 місяці тому

      wait. Bethany herself was only in high school though. how can she already be considered a groomer then?

  • @angrynoodletwentyfive6463
    @angrynoodletwentyfive6463 2 місяці тому +10

    Honestly i don't think there is anything wrong with young girls wearing crop tops and short shorts if its hot out. Let their skin breathe. Men are going to be creepy regardless of what they are wearing, and Little boys walk around with no shirt at all. We gotta stop having the attitude that if a girl is showing skin it is automatically sexual because sometimes we just want to dress skimpy because its 90 fucking degrees outside and we do infact sweat
    The belly button piercing on a child is weird though

    • @92JazzQueen
      @92JazzQueen 2 місяці тому

      No

    • @digimonalvatrax2738
      @digimonalvatrax2738 2 місяці тому +1

      Funny thing is lots of little girls(toddlers and young kids) in developing countries can actually remove their shirts off and nothing is wrong(well the climate is hot and that's just how the parents are fine with that). Everything is so sexualised nowadays. But still, predators are everywhere.

  • @foxbuns
    @foxbuns 2 місяці тому +4

    something I never see talked about is *why the parents enable or encourage the adultification of their teens* - because it benefits them, the parent. the quicker their kid is no longer a kid, the sooner they can cook and clean up after themselves, get a job, start their own life and move out. the more independent the kid is, the less the parent has to be a parent.

  • @lucasperez3917
    @lucasperez3917 2 місяці тому +6

    That's an EDP 445 episode at Disney.

  • @mk-aka-morgan8386
    @mk-aka-morgan8386 2 місяці тому +2

    I haven’t watched the original series, but I love how they’re willing to talk about topics most shows even today won’t touch, and I LOVE your analysises on these episodes 💕💕💕

  • @ferl.r733
    @ferl.r733 19 днів тому +2

    I remember watching this episode and was happy that Penny and her friends left. But was upset Zoey was dragged off because she was enjoying the guys attention. I didn't realize how dire the situation was. It's incredible the writers made this into an episode.

  • @simsgirlgem
    @simsgirlgem 2 місяці тому +6

    So glad my mom never let me and my sister act now that I know what happened

  • @sweetvanillagf
    @sweetvanillagf 2 місяці тому +4

    I never noticed this, I don’t even know HOW 😭. It’s so obvious omg

  • @SIX.Sph3re
    @SIX.Sph3re 2 місяці тому +3

    My mom isn’t mad @ my 13 year old sister for being grown but shes mad that IM not “acting my age” I dress comfortably and be me for me… and for that she treats me very differently and even thought I was bi because I “dress like a boy”
    But its very sad that now we teens and younger have *NO PLACE* to still be kids :(

  • @AikoSilver
    @AikoSilver 2 місяці тому +4

    omg you are absolutely right, Bethany was giving Madam of the Girls vibes

  • @maffieduran
    @maffieduran 2 місяці тому +3

    I absolutely loved that this breaks the notion that grooming can come from some lady agent, madame or pervert. It wasn't someone much older and it was a family member. This happens way too often and outside the entertainment industry. Anyone can take advantage of you and use you for their gain, even family.

  • @chanettelaing4664
    @chanettelaing4664 2 місяці тому +11

    Love your channel ❤

  • @saucygyal6480
    @saucygyal6480 2 місяці тому +7

    Yea she was a weirdo lol some cousin she is. It’s like just bc you gave up your goodies & morals, doesn’t mean that they should.

  • @brookgordon6961
    @brookgordon6961 2 місяці тому +4

    My daughter is 9 . I never put her in girl shorts. I prefer her to wear boys shorts. She also wears dresses to her knee or longer. I wasn't protected as a kid. I'm very protective of my kids. They have their minds and opinions but dress modestly.

  • @YusukeKnight
    @YusukeKnight 2 місяці тому +10

    Good discussion

  • @DanielleMartin.
    @DanielleMartin. 2 місяці тому +8

    omg yesss ty for makeing this vid i love yours vidss

  • @kaylasworld_
    @kaylasworld_ 2 місяці тому +3

    yayyy i love your videos super happy you are doing a follow up

  • @SupHapCak
    @SupHapCak Місяць тому +1

    This is definitely an episode where they’re trying to expose the child star industry. Like Nickelodeon is in the spotlight but a bunch of those same managers also managed Disney stars.
    They have the point where the stars start getting older and need more roles, so their manager changes their image by getting them hooked on drugs and sex. They say “you have to do this or you won’t get work” but it’s the same manager threatening them that’s the reason they don’t get work.

  • @eldergeek6077
    @eldergeek6077 2 місяці тому +4

    I'd like to see older relatives who are better mentors. Maybe Zoey has one?

  • @MsDisneylandlover
    @MsDisneylandlover 2 місяці тому +2

    I never thought about the episode like that

  • @sugarpearl9781
    @sugarpearl9781 Місяць тому +2

    I think it’s interesting (and really sad) that Zoey who is considered the least desirable in the group seemed to be the most susceptible to the grooming and attention of the older guys

  • @MsDisneylandlover
    @MsDisneylandlover 2 місяці тому +2

    Another fab shirt sir

  • @Jermite
    @Jermite 2 місяці тому +15

    I understand what u mean abt people being obsessed with beauty pageant kids, but for jon benet ramseys case its most likely the family that did it.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  2 місяці тому +4

      That too which goes into the idea that even a child's own family can't be trusted sometimes.

    • @oooh19
      @oooh19 2 місяці тому +2

      @@TonyTurner yea it's just horrible! so scary that some people think oh it's family they couldn't do this when many times they do! at least Jon Bonet will never be forgotten! my friend and I were in Boulder Colorado and saw her former house.

  • @startingover1
    @startingover1 2 місяці тому +1

    Wasnt there a Dijonae involved the Keneka Jenkins case¿ interesting content. You earned a sub.

  • @MorganRimming
    @MorganRimming 2 місяці тому +1

    LETS GOOOOO!!!🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

  • @gabrielleduplessis7388
    @gabrielleduplessis7388 2 місяці тому +3

    When I am writing this, please keep in mind, I am not justifying Bethany’s actions, I am pointing out observations of how grooming is portrayed in the media.
    I noticed that when women groom, it comes into 2 main forms. A) some women have been groomed (mainly, by men) and are stuck in this cycle and have to be the ones that find the girls, sometimes boys to lure in and appease their groomer.
    B) they are the psychopaths, like Epstein’s wife who don’t care who they are hurting. These are the women who don’t care about other women.
    Also, there is the social attitude that is ingrained whether we experience it or not. Women, no matter how old they are are taught to appease men. We are supposed to fit to their beauty standards. Our attitudes have to succumb to what they want. We are always intertwined in these double standards. Sometimes it is so ingrained, we barely see we are participating in them.
    I wonder if Bethany does this because that is all she knows. Again, not justifying it, but either she was groomed herself or this is what she observed.
    Or she is just a psychopath groomer like Epstein’s wife and does not care who she hurts.

  • @Hot_SpicyGrill
    @Hot_SpicyGrill 2 місяці тому +2

    Great video.

  • @MissTV36
    @MissTV36 2 місяці тому

    I knew this episode had a deeper meaning.

  • @rexspecificallyredrex64rem73
    @rexspecificallyredrex64rem73 2 місяці тому +1

    Did you get a new mic or get sick? You sound noticeably different here.
    Either way, really good video.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  2 місяці тому

      I have a really stuffy nose and Thank You ‼

  • @Kalani_Saiko
    @Kalani_Saiko 2 місяці тому

    My own cousin tried to groom me as a much younger child (6-7 years old). I was lucky that I had been taught about (and understood) grooming and how it wasn't okay.
    The thing is, you never see it until certain things happen. In my case, it was my older, male cousin. I told my parents and they talked to me about it, told me to always have the door open when we were visiting other kids. This had nothing to do with being strict, it was all to do with making sure my parents could see and hear what we were doing or talking about to avoid such a thing happening.
    We never visited my cousin again and I avoid talking to him whenever we do see him.

  • @92JazzQueen
    @92JazzQueen 2 місяці тому +3

    Bethany is like her cousin: fake and an opportunist. However, she's on a more sinister level and she needs to be checked because i have feeling she will look for more victims in the future to ecploit if someone doesnt stop her.

  • @MsDisneylandlover
    @MsDisneylandlover 2 місяці тому +4

    Look how she was dress smh

  • @Blast2224
    @Blast2224 2 місяці тому +1

    It SCARES me how you can flat out observe a double standard in child grooming with female individuals, and people will go "I don't see it". The groomer could be as gorgeous as a runway model. The groomer could ACT as nice as Oprah on the outside but be as selfish Oprah on in the inside. The groomer can even gaslight or redirect your attention towards a distraction (I'm not grooming; YOU'RE grooming by accusing me of grooming/you accusing me of grooming means you're a groomer too). But the worst, is how people think groomers CAN'T BE OLDER TEENS THEMSELVES. If a teen at the age of 15-16 is manipulating children within the range of 9-14, that can STILL be a grooming dynamic when older (I was 9 when you were 16 vs I was 14 when you were 15).

  • @MsDisneylandlover
    @MsDisneylandlover 2 місяці тому +1

    Where do u get these shirts

  • @mediamuncher69
    @mediamuncher69 2 місяці тому +3

    I hope they bring her back to mske her a better character nd redeem her horrible appearance.

  • @Symbolic-Sky
    @Symbolic-Sky Місяць тому

    Groomers, and just all around bad influences. I have a friend who ended up moving to the town over and making a lot of more in-town friends, where I went to a more rural school. Makayla would hang out with these dudes who wanted to mess around, get high, talked like they were these thug adults be in mind she and I are both incredibly white, and I never met these guys. She would always say "yeah I'll introduce you," but it never happened. Later down the line when we're adults she's got all these stories of these bad relationships, she's moved from dude to dude so much but now she's got health issues she never addressed and she's in another state where most of the people who love her can't actually help her. She put her faith in people who did not have her interest in mind, and spent so mind time fishing for attention with drama, and crying wolf that even I struggled to know how to help her. It's real easy for someone to think they're just doing their own thing and not realize the consequences that'll come if those friends, relatives, or relationships aren't good ones.

  • @DylbyllSecretChannel
    @DylbyllSecretChannel 2 місяці тому

    This guy talks like a crazy person but says the most sane things I’ve ever heard

  • @SonicChan-bm4lx
    @SonicChan-bm4lx 2 місяці тому +3

    That's messed up...

  • @Canev821
    @Canev821 2 місяці тому +1

    I was one of these 12 year old girls with crop tops my mom didn’t really mind because she says clothes doesn’t define a person it’s the inside. I liked to dress like that because it felt like I was pretty

    • @denisenicole8271
      @denisenicole8271 Місяць тому

      You shouldn’t have to dress that way so young to feel pretty, focusing so much on your self-image at 12 shouldn’t be that normalized. It was your parents job to encourage that you’re beautiful without exposing yourself or wearing a genre of clothing, instead of letting you believe clothing enhances the beauty you will always have

  • @Queenofobscurepairings
    @Queenofobscurepairings 2 місяці тому

    Even as a child when I first saw this, I know something was sus..when this first aried. Before this term was even in vogue.

  • @lpsmintgreen8632
    @lpsmintgreen8632 2 місяці тому +1

    I still dont Understand why girls grow up so fast i really hope tween culture Will be normalised again im só thankful that My mom was strict because of her i waited till im 18 to dress a bit more mature

  • @jonelrobinson5189
    @jonelrobinson5189 2 місяці тому +2

    Great video! Bethany gives me icky vibes.

  • @juandiegotorres9632
    @juandiegotorres9632 2 місяці тому

    Idk how the dudes would have reacted if they realized the girls were 17. But Bethany did tell them to lie. In the heart of the industry most people don't care about age and prefer them much younger. It's the disgusting reality.

  • @johnmartin298
    @johnmartin298 2 місяці тому +1

    I don’t like the implication that she’s a former victim turned victimizer, atleast not as a sympathetic angle. Even if that were the case; that makes it even worse. I know the saying “hurt-people hurt people” but if you know the hardship of being pimped out, why would you go and turn into a madame?

  • @_-saumi
    @_-saumi Місяць тому

    i was walking in a store and saw a 5 year old wearing a high crop top and a miniskirt.
    shit's disgusting omg

  • @CarderoConstant-zb1wc
    @CarderoConstant-zb1wc 2 місяці тому

    alot of girls at my school wear crop tops and short shorts so it's normal for me

  • @lucasperez3917
    @lucasperez3917 2 місяці тому +1

    RAINN if you are a victim of sexual abuse of any kind.

  • @RiddleLeech777
    @RiddleLeech777 Місяць тому

    This is so much like Dance Moms it’s sickening. Abby Lee Miller’s tactics were alarmingly similar. 🤢

  • @MsDisneylandlover
    @MsDisneylandlover 2 місяці тому

    #DisneyDiva ❤

  • @fantasytraveler
    @fantasytraveler Місяць тому

    I heard there isnt a "third place" for tween what happen to preteen and tween stores? Either or girl should be able to wear clothes that suit their style but there is age appropriate clothing. The truth is there predators out there that will use any excuse in a society condoning rape culture.

  • @SupHapCak
    @SupHapCak Місяць тому

    The freaking revealing clothes are another child groomer trick.
    The clothes are inherently sexual.
    Putting revealing clothes like that on a child/young teen is wrong, and it doesn’t make you a bad person to be uncomfortable with kids being dressed inappropriately
    They want to say “you’re a misogynist for telling women what to wear” or “you’re weird for being attracted to it” (not attracted to it, first on the list of them trying to project their own grossness on others) because you notice these clothes are not appropriate.
    The clothes aren’t appropriate on adult women, and aren’t worn frequently by women who aren’t hookers or strippers. That is how hookers and strippers dress and it is inherent to the clothing, not to the person (child) wearing them.
    These parents aren’t protecting their daughters’ chastity - I’d argue it’s the parents grooming their own kids by letting them dress that way.
    Kids should dress like kids.
    Community relationships are important, so parents can get together and be like “what you are doing isn’t right by your children and you have to fix it so our kids don’t see it and want to dress like prostitutes”
    This is not empowering. This is traumatizing.
    Girls aren’t the only ones. Girls get told to say no all the time but boys need to be told not to ask for sex unless they are ready to risk making a baby. That goes for gays too. It’s just not fair to them, to deny them the chance of a fulfilling relationship (the kind that comes from making a real connection through spending time and being friends with someone) and it’s unfair to let them be traumatized by having sex too early just because they’re gay.

  • @kidbuumajin7315
    @kidbuumajin7315 2 місяці тому +3

    I didn’t see any of them get their hair brushed by a barber. Where was the grooming?

    • @therealopaartist
      @therealopaartist 2 місяці тому +31

      Not that kind of grooming. THIS kind of grooming is when someone builds a relationship, trust and emotional connection with a child or young person so they can manipulate, exploit and abuse them.

    • @Nakia11798
      @Nakia11798 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@therealopaartistThink they're joking

    • @therealopaartist
      @therealopaartist 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Nakia11798 you never know.

    • @kidbuumajin7315
      @kidbuumajin7315 2 місяці тому

      @@therealopaartist oh I wonder why they call it grooming

  • @JT5555
    @JT5555 2 місяці тому +3

    i don't think bethany was a groomer. she was trying to exploit the hell out of them and use them to boost her own popularity but i don't think she was actually trying to groom them but rather just didn't care about their wellbeing.