Should you Track your Daily Driver - BMW E92 M3 POV (Binaural Audio)
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- Опубліковано 24 кві 2021
- Don't have a dedicated Race Car but want to get on track? Most people use their daily driver, but how can you be sure it won't crumble under the abuse? Let's talk about how to confidently run your Daily Driver on track.
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Do you change oil also after trackday?
Hey this is awesome man!! Totally did not expect this upload. Happy Sunday, stay healthy and happy tedward!
@@8359s only if I saw really outrageous temps. If its within reason its fine to keep running. I will change before the NEXT track day though.
My wallet is not prepared for anything more than a tank of gas at a track day. I've never done more than one consecutive "hard lap". 😂
Better to change the oil after the track day than before the next one, assuming you do track day within the next few months
Sunday morning E9X content with coffee, thank you Tedward
Your breaking the car Sammy
Great choice with the red gloves! Red gloves add about 10-20whp to any car on a track day
100%!! I get sweaty palms so driving gloves are my best friend at a track day haha
That v8 just freakin sings on the track, reminds me of a Gen 1 DTM car 🤤
It is such a fun experience listening to it!
I'm really thankful that I found this channel because as a 16-year old that hasn't got his licence yet I've learned a lot from just watching these videos, and you Sir do a good job of showing how to drive properly and safely. Not just on the road but also on the track.
Wow, thanks!
I want my S4 to last forever so I think I'll stick to the street. Very well put together video for track day beginners
You can always replace stuff along the road
s4s handle really boring so you’d probably be really quite safe unless you understeer going way to hot into a corner. But also it’s boring so fair enough for not taking it. S4 is good for red light launches that’s about it
love your E92!!
So the solution is to race after dinner. ;)
Great video and such a lovely E92!
I did make somebody puke that day so maybe not lol. Thankfully I realized he was unwell near the pit entrance and he unloaded outside of the car!
Appreciate the bonus clip under the outro and the red gloves.
I have a 2019 Civic Type R that I daily, been to one track day last year (my first one!) Ran stock pads, tires/wheels. Car only had around 4k on it so I didn't do fluids. But I did get insurance. This video is very helpful man (AND PALMER IS AMAZING).
Type R is a great track toy. Lots of attention to be paid to cooling as you get faster but if you treat it nicely and it certainly gets the job done
Hardcore fan here. Just watched a 10 min ad about a guy slamming a ship horn on his freakin' Prius... I endure anything to support the channel 👌😂
Respect the drive! 😉
Haha omg that’s actually pretty funny. Better than the ad I saw today about making your balls bigger. WHO IS ASKING FOR THIS!? Thanks for the support!
@@TedwardDrives It turned out to be hilarious actually. But you really have to struggle through the beginning of the video 😂 I wonder how much it cost them to run a 10 min ad 🤔
Video is finally here!! Enjoyed every second!
The amount my knowledge and enthusiasm for cars and driving has increased since I started watching your videos is incredible! I hope more track content is in the pipeline!
The video I’ve been waiting for!!
My 2010 honda accord has track days everyday on the way to work 😈
The best advice I was given on my first track day was, to listen to your instructor, listen to your car, and listen to yourself.
Sorry I haven't seen your recent videos cuz of exams, but hey...helloo!!!
No worries! I want you to succeed haha
Recently took the daily to a track "cruise" and already glazed over the brakes : ( Am looking at stepping into proper track days soon so definitely needed to see this! Awesome well thought out video as usual
I was just at Palmer Motorsport Park yesterday with the PCA! BMWCCA guys were running before, they have some really good driver.
M3 is definitely a luxury car, if anyone disagrees tell them to put those heated power seats on a scale to see how luxurious they are ;)
Lol yesss. Although I drove one last without heated seats and was like WHO WOULD NOT OPTION THIS!?!?
Very good video. Many people don't have a dedicated track car, instead either one or two fun street cars. This is the perfect video for those people who want to go on track but are afraid to mess up their car. While personally I have yet to do a 10/10s lap in my car, I have done plenty of tour laps and it is still a ton of fun. Thanks for the information, Tedward!
I will be going to a track day with my daily soon, this video came right on time! Thanks Tedward
Have fun!
thanks, Tedward, I'm really inspired by your videos and above all, your attitude and personality to driving in general. Keep up the excellent work!
Thanks Larry!
I took my car to a winter event at a track, little stress on the vehicle in the winter. Had some fun drifting around
Nice piece. Great insight about what it takes to put even a M3 on the track. When it comes down to it, there are really very few track ready cars coming off the lots.
You have a lovely personality man! Thanks
Looks amazing
love your videos :)
I swear this is the year I move away from autocross and make it to a few real track days....
Gotta do it! Definitely more fun and you get WAY more seat time. Autocross is pretty expensive if you break it down dollar/minute of driving.
@@TedwardDrives yeah but no insurance. Near 0 risk of binning your car. And shorter runs mean I have to worry less about overheating tires and brakes. Ps4s hold up fine there.
With all that said. I'm ready for a day at Thompson lol
Autocross seems more abusive. Your car is only warm if you let it idle before the run. That means your drivetrain isn’t really up to temp and then the first thing you do is launch it! And at the end there’s no cool down.
@@TedwardDrives All very true points.
Great point about not over modding your street car. So many people go overboard with track suspension, track brakes, cat less exhaust systems, rolls bars, racing seats, and besides wasting thousands they ruin the comfort and usability of their car.
The loud “track” exhaust is a strange misnomer too. Most tracks have very strict noise restrictions 😆
I would love to see the track footage!
Love the vids🖤🖤🖤
Thanks for this video! Been debating taking my new-to-me ATS-V daily driver to the track sometime soon
2003 Z4 here, pushing 200,000 miles. FCP euro is the shit.
I did an HPDE weekend in my couple year old M235. My buddy totaled his e36 M3 on Day 1. If I didn't have the track day insurance, I would have parked it in the stable and not have done another lap. It was an absolute blast, an amazing amount of knowledge gained about technique and what my car could do, and experience I would not change one bit - but I haven't had any strong longing to go back for another with this car. Every session, a car would leave with damage and I wore the shoulders off my front Super Sports.
Looks like you got some fun ahead of you spreading that mulch. Just threw down 15 yards last week. My shoulders are killing me.
haha my dad ordered this and I was like "ARE YOU NUTS!!! THATS TOO MUCH!"
@@TedwardDrives Haha! Luckilly it goes pretty quick unlike gravel or topsoil.
Thanks for that, very insightful!
My AE102 Corolla 1.8 daily driver only with pad and tire = best fun/cost ratio on a track
and stock suspension new OE shocks handle surprisingly well
Sick vid! Need more vids on your 911!🔥
Been itching to take my personal daily (2011 E90 335i) to the track someday. The thing is already a blast to drive every day and tracking it has been something I’ve been wanting to do for a while now
Definitely gonna track my Daily, once It arrives
That’s sure a great daily driver
Great video 100% accurate 👌
Crazy enough have same terrible brake sound on my E92 M3 but same track pads don't make a sound on my NC Miata . I have one video of exactly what you talking about , blown rear tire at 100mph because I abused it in oval part of the track . You nailed this analysis 👏
Great informative video thank you
You have the same taste in caddys as i do. I love those early 80's square bodies. all the better if it's a brougham
I have tracked daily drivers for nearly 20 years. Given that I lease, they stay stock. Except for SRF brake fluid. It survives track weekends very well. BMW CCA Tarheel chapter (NC) and others require annual brake flushes. Its a good thing to do during your first track inspection of the year. Current daily track car is an M2 Comp. It's a mobile radiator with plenty of factory cooling but I haven't tried it in 100 degree days yet. I rarely do track insurance. That and the stock leased cars, keep me grounded and probably keep me from progressing to the next level of experience/abilities as some friends have. An e30/e36/e46 track toy should be in my future, but we shall see.
You lease a car and don't do track insurance? Your lease will almost certainly say something about track driving. That's risky at best. Especially if you end up having to pay for damage to other cars as well as your own. 🙄
I would add it depends also on what you are expecting (technical aspects aside). If you like a 90% daily and 10% track duty or the opposite. A stock car is full of compromises, pad noise, tyre grip and noise, suspensions, etc. Or if you are ready to live with less comfort (keep in mind the daily aspect).
I run Ate type 200 (previously racing blue) brake fluid. On my lighter cars I'm very happy with it indeed. It lives a bit longer than rbf I've found, it's a bit less effective but it's also less expensive. Anyway, good video Tedward, because I think we are a lot in that case 👍
I don't think you can call something a daily driver if its any less than 90% street use though. If its the opposite at 90% track and 10% street then its not a daily. It's a street legal track car
Quick question, will you ever do a video about all the past and current vehicles you've owned? Also, love the content on your channel man.
Thanks! I keep cars for a long time so the only past vehicles are a 2000 Celica GTS, 2003 350Z and 1994 VW Golf.
Interesting video!
Excellent point about leaving your car stock and then taking it out on an autocross or to the track to see what the chassis is doing and what the stock suspension and responses That's what I accidentally did with my E30 and then I put components on it and I kind of know what's happening with the car now
Your videos are great. I wish I had TVR 302 Tuscon to loan you.
Very good advice here! I was at an BMW HDPE and someone blew up their engine in their daily. Turns out they had ignored a low coolant warning from the drive to the track..... smh.
Ouch!!!
Been thinking about taking my daily driver 1996 Miata to the track but I've been worried about crashing it. Thanks for all the advice. I'll be sure to take it easy on the car and flush that brake fluid. This will be my first time on the track so I won't exactly be thrashing it anyway :)
Same situation here. I’ve got a 2004 Miata that I have autocrossed a few times but have been meaning to take it to a track
I rolled the dice a few times when I was younger and foolish. Was too cheap to pay for trackday insurance and luckily nothing happened.
I'm kind of a freak about my brakes - I'd for sure switch out btwn sets of track and street specific pads, rotors, wheels, and tires. Well worth the extra cost for better comfort while going to work & Target.
If I had mono block calipers I would but its kind of a pain in the ass to swap these pads out lol
It sounds like a TRACK TOY is a better idea Ted! Get an old e46, maybe even a flooded one, strip the interior and build it up to track specs!
I recommend Hawk DTC-30 brake pads, they can take almost any abuse and they don't even squeal that much.
Just got me an e92 328i, an absolute beauty, I think e9x is the best car ever made
Tracked my daily 2020 supra a couple of times recently. Killed brake discs, but it was a lot of fun :)
Sounds fun! You can make brakes and tires last by changing your driving style. If you go it like a race it’ll get very expensive. You can brake earlier or coast more to preserve these things without sacrificing much fun
I don't know you but for me to be able to use more than 80% of the power of my engine it's what I call to make my money worth it!
I cannot agree more with the track pads 😂, my friends think my brakes are done
I absolutely roasted a set of stock pads. Then thought I’d split the difference with ebc yellows. Then I decided to just go all out with the gloc and never looked back haha
Take the pads off the car and put water on the inside of the pads and rub them togheter for a while and they will stop squealing all the time.
the problem is there are no open track days anymore in hot spots like N/S California. There are third party vendors offering track days but they charge $2K or more
Another dope video! Have you noticed E9X M prices rising? Not sure if it's the car itself or just the used market right now. Wish I owned two of them lol 😆
Try Porterfield RS-4 pads if they fit your car. They are great on track and are quiet!
I had to bleed RBF600 in between each track weekend to prevent fade. Trying SRF this year!
I usually do one flush before the first track day and then bleed before the next
hey tedward liked the vid a lot. Would you be interested in making a video on a mk6 golf tdi or an a6 3.0 tdi with stage 1?
When I ran my e36 M3, I found that I could get away with a cool down every couple of laps to keep the tires (RE71Rs) and oil cool. Granted, I'm no phenomenal driver, and my brake kit was pretty overkill. On the other hand, I tracked my r53 mini with some basic sporty street pads and 'performance' all-seasons, and even on a slow track it struggled to get a whole hot lap in before the front tires got greasy and the brakes got scary. Absolutely not recommended - get a good summer tire at the bare minimum and a real track pad, potentially even a front rotor/caliper upgrade for cars that were never intended for track use.
i just bought my first car, one of the first things i thought "i'm gonna track day this thing" but... is a nice and reliable daily driver, it would be smarter to keep it like that.
maybe i should wait to have money (and space) to buy a beater and turn it into a track toy, because it would hurt less to damage a cheap somewhat running car than a perfectly good daily driver.
Get to know your car properly on the road before you take it to a track, just doing normal everyday driving. You need to feel at ease with it, know how it feels and sounds in normal use. Then, when you go on track the first time, don't go mad. Drive a few laps at speeds you are used to, learn the track and you don't need to worry about the car doing strange things. Build up slowly, and remember... it isn't a race. Going on track in an unfamiliar car is asking for trouble.
@@another3997 thanks for the advice, i'll take it easy and get to know the car first. i've been driving my dad's car for about 10 years but never driven fast or aggressive (since it isn't my car) so i'll need to get used to how the car behaves before doing anything.
I recommend Castrol SRF instead of Motul RBF600. I’ve been running RBF600 for a long time but a got recommended SRF because it doesn’t need to be changed as often as SRF in between track days. And I got my SRF at FCP Euro.
SRF is definitely top notch but I think specs are more comparable to RBF660 rather than 600
i feel like track insurance would still total out my 03 volvo s60 lol but will still get it if i do go to the track!
Lol! But remember it also covers expenses for cleanup and possibly track damage if you really make a mess. That can add up!
Im going to track my TDI econobox whether I should or not
Yo can you drive the Hyundai Veloster by any chance? I looked through your whole profile and noticed you haven't driven it yet and I also just bought one recently and would love to get your feedback, love your content man
I had been searching for a video like this for so long. I started doubting my decision to follow the advice of a guy I met at the track, who convinced me to buy a second track car. Consequently, I went ahead and purchased a Renault Twingo 1 for 700 euros. I invested an additional 700 euros into it to ensure good service and added a pair of inexpensive coilovers and track pads. Now, I am enjoying tracking it and avoiding the risk of breaking the bank if I crash.
The only downside is that it contradicts my beliefs regarding cars. I have always desired to own a luxurious sports car that I can use as a daily driver and occasionally take to the track. I feel that by having a dedicated track car, there is no longer a point in having a nice daily sports car - crushing my logical sense for owning a nice Type R for instance. After all, why would I want one if I can't fully exploit its potential on the street anyway? 😪
You forgot to mention puke bags for your passenger just in case you drive too fast for them lol
Haha Ricky did puke that day and he managed to hold it in until I got to the pits! So thankful since there were no floor mats and he would have destroyed my carpet
So when are we gonna start playing this video during drivers meetings? :-)
Better question: Should you daily your track car? That's how it ends up with me most of the time :D
haha if its a GT3RS then go for it. But its so miserable to daily a legit track build
Haha yea that's what i'm doing basically. My daily is sat with a snapped aux belt. I really should sort it...
E60 M5 review when :3
Will you ever do a test drive on a Hyundai Tiburon or Genesis?
Great video! I am newly moved to MA, any great track near Bos could recommend? :)
lol I'm sure my 2017 Hyundai Tucson Sport can handle a track with its mediocre tires and 1.6L engine (only 186 HP afaik, around 290 lb feet of torque. fun car for daily stuff though when the DCT behaves)
I also have a E92 M3 and live in Massachusetts. We should crash into each other 😏
Now I just need to find a race track that'll let me track my CRV
Nuremberg lol
While you can do this, u can also go go karting :)
Karting is also fun! But definitely not the same experience as driving a big heavy floppy car on a track
Needs camber... LOL
My brakes do that all the time. Least aggressive pad compound, LOL... Guess what will be upgraded next
I wouldn't track my car because I cannot stand how helmets limit vision, and muffle sound. I wish people weren't so sue-happy. Thanks to people like that, we're limited as to how we can track our cars.
As the individual lining up on the track, are you not assuming full responsibility for what happens at that point? Why does someone always need to be sued in the case of a mishap? If you don't think the track is safe, don't line up. It's like people are angry they have to use their decision-making skills, and would rather have a Judge either confirm, or deny their victim complexes.
How often should you change your oil if you’re running like 4 autocross events a season? I have an Ap1 s2000 and it burns a good amount of oil (as all early Ap1s do) so I feel like every 3000 miles is good since I have to top off every 1000 miles. Whatya think?
how hot do your temps get? Oil is designed to protect for a certain amount of time and load. Increasing load (heat) is what degrades oil fastest. If your temps only jump up a little above normal operating then you can pretty much send it for a normal 5k interval. I send my oil out to Blackstone for analysis to see if viscosity changes after track days. My lesson learned is that I was being a little too cautious by changing every track day.
PLEASE remember me when you have 1 mil subs and take me for a ride i live like 30 mins from u
Sure. If you trust your O2 sensor, starter, fan blade and tranny to not explode on your Bimmer.
...are you just listing random car parts? What would tracking a car have to do with the function of a starter
I wouldn't want to track my daily on a regular basis.
My friend does every few weeks or so and he is forever having to fix stuff.
I couldn't be doing with that.
Just booked a slot for a track day for my gt350. I completely forgot about track insurance. I ignored insurance on my gt so I thought I'd be ok on the gt350.
Can you afford to write off your car? Can you also afford to pay for damage to other cars if you cause an accident on track? If you can, fine. If not... get insurance.
@@another3997 I have karting experience, but you're right a lot of shit does happen. It's just something I tend to forget. Making it a must have on top of checking fluids from now on. I saw videos from the Toronto motorsports park right after they opened up from covid and it was horrible.
I daily a NB Miata so I pretty much did the opposite.
What kind of motor oil do you use in that M3?
Track footage from Palmer with Mass Tuning ?
Yessir
@@TedwardDrives I was there with them on the 10th and will be again on the 8th... Hopefully we can meet up at a day this season - I'll be at both Thompson and Palmer a bunch. You can check my channel for some of my laps...and you cant miss my 996 - black with Gulf colors
ETA...Great video with good advice. Agree with all of it.
Blow it up! Lol
Full send!
Cant figure out if that’s CCW OR CW 😳
I read that Porsches are already built to be daily’s and amazing track toys, is that true? Would I have to do extra maintenance for a cayman compared to an M4?
Porsche’s are a bit more track ready than a bmw. They hold up to heat a bit better than the bmws but if you were really trying to beat on the car for 20 full minutes you’d like need some upgrades to help it breathe and cool brakes
@@TedwardDrives thanks for the insight! Hope you have a great day and love the 930!
Porsche make fast road cars, and yes, they are capable of relatively short periods on track, more so than many cars. But they are not track cars. They still require extra care and attention for extended periods of high speed driving, hard braking and cornering.
Tedward's M3 is running with "Liguid Molly". Sounds like it's also ready for the club. 😉 Stupid joke I know. 😁
When are we getting a trackhawk or srt drive!!!
I did the SRT Durango so thats kind of close. We'll see if FCA sends some fast toys this summer
@@TedwardDrives bet I’ma go watch that 😂
I want an e92 so bad but I’m broke af
Me and my old as shit miata daily:
*no fucks given noises*