Hali over Ja is wild af😂😂😂 the disrespect is wild af if Ja was in the east he a be a damn 15x all star . Ppl sleep on how DEEP the west is. Give me Ja even with ALL HIS WEAKNESSES.hali nothing but a good passing "Front runner".
Ja is better at everything tyrese is passing at a high level because of the system he’s in proved cause when Hali went down Andrew nemhard avg 26 and 9 in the role Hali had
Haliburton is good but would you ask who's better Haliburton or Anthony Edwards? Probably not because I think at least 90% would say Edwards. The real question should be who's better Ja Morant or Anthony Edwards. That's honestly worth a conversation, people are forgetting how good Ja Morant was because of his suspensions. Ja Morant could've easily been growing into becoming the face of the NBA, if he didn't have such a wannabe gangster personality. He hurt his legacy and career pretty badly already smh.
@@DunningKrugerJnr yes he has kept himself off the court by doing dumb shit, but when he is on the court he is one of the best players in the league the past 2 years. He has been far from terrible.
@@drewp839 He hasn't fallen off, he's the exact same player he's always been. Only difference is his team isn't loaded anymore. No prime Klay who was the second greatest shooter in the NBA and arguably of All-time, he was also 2-way SG in the NBA. No prime Draymond arguably best defender in the NBA. No 4th guy who's an All-star or borderline All-star like Andrew Wiggins or Andre Iguadala. No guy that's well-known as the 2nd best player in the NBA only behind Lebron and arguably 3rd best shooter in the NBA only behind Steph & Klay in Kevin Durant... Steph is the exact same player he's always been. He was just winning with a loaded team before and people just loved how he played as a suposedly "little guy" (6'3"🙄) while winning so he got extra credit for it.
@@gamechanger114 then you don’t watch enough Steph basketball, I don’t see how you can watch both Steph from the year they won and the year before and act like he’s currently as good as that. It’s clear that there’s a regression when there was multiple games this year where he didn’t make a three. The 20-21 season exists where he had an objectively worse team than last year.
No way Joel just compared Steve Nash and Westbrook to ja morant and Tyrese Halliburton. 😂those are two completely different conversations. It’s a good debate for sure but Ja Morants gravity when he’s on the court is next to none
Ja is insane but his game is high octane. I’m not sure he can do what he’s going 10 years from now while Tyrese’s game is on the ground with unreal playmaking and shooting that ages gracefully.
What’s even worst is these guys have Ja & Hali around the 5-6 range but then left Fox at number 10!!! I fkn hate NBA Twitter. Because it’s literally a popularity contest and it leaves out guys like Fox who plays for a small market Kings team. Fox vs Ja. Take every single one of Jas strengths. Fox is better than him at it. Fox is basically the more polished version of Ja. They have literally about the same speed and athleticism. As amazing as Ja is at the rim, Fox is just as good as him too. Fox is a better mid range scorer. Fox is a better 3 point shooter. Fox is a better catch and shoot player and better off the ball. Fox is a much better defender. Fox is a much better half court player and is so much better than Ja in clutch moments. Fox won clutch player in 2023 and finished top 2 in 4th quarter scoring and 3rd in clutch points. Ja is the better playmaker but that’s about it. Fox is also more durable and is much more reliable with the off the court stuff. With that being said, both of these guys are in the same exact tier. And they are neck and neck. But more importantly, they are both better than Haliburton. Now let’s compare Fox vs Haliburton. All this talk about Haliburton being the better shooter but he shot 36% from 3. Fox shot 37% on the same exact attempts (7.8 per game). Fox is the better mid range scorer, slasher. Fox is the better isolation scorer. Hali is the better playmaker. I also think Hali is better at making his teammates better. Fox washes him defensively and it’s not even close. Fox is so much better in clutch moments and that’s not close. More importantly, Fox is also sooo much better in the playoffs and actually elevates his game even though defenses are giving him more attention. Haliburton stats go down in the playoffs. And many games, Haliburton was the 4th or 5th best scorer for his team. Fox is always the number 1 scoring option in every playoff game. Led the league in steals too. Better rebounder too even though Hali is taller. Fox is also more durable. SO HOW THE FUCKKK IS FOX RANKED THE 10TH BEST PG and literally THE ENTIRE PANEL HAS HALI 5 SPOTS HIGHER!!? HOWWWW?? This is a clear example of how impactful NBA Twitter is and how much the bigger name matters. Super disappointed in all of you.
Ehhh man I hate this conversation because this was a legit debate before Hali messed his hamstring up. Production took a substantial dip after that along w/ the arrival of Siakam. But today I’m taking Ja
You have to be an insane casual and troll to honestly say with a straight face that Halliburton is better than Ja Morant. Like this recency bias needs to stop, this is disrespectful to Ja
I agree with Joel. Give me a point guard that can actually shoot. Let the people hate brother. Teams can pack the paint and force Ja to shoot, which he is not very good at. Also this really hurts team building.
Haliburton led a historic offense even BEFORE Siakam got there…. Yes Ja Morant might be a flashier player but Haliburton will get you more W’s. Quit hating on Haliburton
ja morant is better in every way hali just a better shooter and passer we gotta chill with thisn haliburton shit just cause hes a great passer dont make him a top 5 pg in any way
6:59 GTFO with that bs logic, u can argue siakim played better then reese for that playoff run & are we forgettin how nembhard was giving the celtics work to keep in em games during the ecf? acting like it was haliburton when it was a great run for the team.
@@jeerell the excuse was he was injured, but you can’t have watched that series and thought he played well because he didn’t. He’s still the 5th best pg tho
Hali is better than ja yaw need to stop this. He’s a better shooter distributor ball handler leader more efficient doesn’t turn the ball over and slightly better defender. ja is only a better slasher. he could maybe be a better defender but only bc he’s more athletic which makes him more dangerous on the perimeter. Hali also has don’t better w less.
Joel is literally NBA Twitter in human form
He’s right though…Ja is a bust
@@DunningKrugerJnrhow?
@@DunningKrugerJnr😂😂😂😂😂
@@DunningKrugerJnr ain’t no one finna take what you say serious you sound ridiculous asf lmaoo
On bro he just talking to talk
Ja when he played gave us 2 game winners and dropped 30 points every game😂
“When he played” being a massive qualifier here…dude’s an overpaid, under delivering menace
@@DunningKrugerJnr I'm only taking this bait to tell you to step it up. Terrible bait
@@DunningKrugerJnrgoofy bih stare facts
Ja is miles better than Tyrese Haliburton Lmaoo
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JA CLEARS WHY IS THIS EVEN A QUESTION
They're gonna look crazy next season
BRO I’M FUCKING SAYING! HOW QUICK THEY FORGET
This is very disrespectful to ja ja
Recency bias is a hell of a drug smh.
Hali over Ja is wild af😂😂😂 the disrespect is wild af if Ja was in the east he a be a damn 15x all star . Ppl sleep on how DEEP the west is. Give me Ja even with ALL HIS WEAKNESSES.hali nothing but a good passing "Front runner".
Stop it. Pacers are good cause of him
@@nelsonogbuigwe7500a playoff run to the conference facing legit hospital teams theyre dead ass a first round (maybe second) exit 😂
@@nelsonogbuigwe7500 pacers mid af
@@quary1530 dude actually think pacers good they a be 11th seed in the west 😂😂😂
Ja is better at everything tyrese is passing at a high level because of the system he’s in proved cause when Hali went down Andrew nemhard avg 26 and 9 in the role Hali had
Go look at what Ja did to the pacers Lmaoo
I need to hear Haliburton slander this entire segment bro is good but this is glaze if you think he’s in that category of top tier PG’s 😂😂😂
But he is tho
Ja on the pacers would be a legitimate championship contender. The amount of spacing with Myles Turner and Pascal would be insane 😂
Haliburton is good but would you ask who's better Haliburton or Anthony Edwards? Probably not because I think at least 90% would say Edwards. The real question should be who's better Ja Morant or Anthony Edwards. That's honestly worth a conversation, people are forgetting how good Ja Morant was because of his suspensions. Ja Morant could've easily been growing into becoming the face of the NBA, if he didn't have such a wannabe gangster personality. He hurt his legacy and career pretty badly already smh.
You guys don’t watch Grizzlies games to be saying they team not built for Ja skills Lmaoo y’all so sleep
Grizzlies didn’t get bad on purpose it ran its course dude DOES NOT know wtf he talking about lmaooo
I can’t believe what I was hearing from Joel this was a bad take
Ja has been terrible for the past two seasons…bro can’t get on the court…shoots himself in the foot
@@DunningKrugerJnr yes he has kept himself off the court by doing dumb shit, but when he is on the court he is one of the best players in the league the past 2 years. He has been far from terrible.
@@DunningKrugerJnru sound so smart
Brunson isn't better than Steph LMAO
As for now he's.. Idk if Steph is even top 10 player this year
Steph has fallen off, still great but not the same player anymore
@@drewp839 He hasn't fallen off, he's the exact same player he's always been. Only difference is his team isn't loaded anymore. No prime Klay who was the second greatest shooter in the NBA and arguably of All-time, he was also 2-way SG in the NBA. No prime Draymond arguably best defender in the NBA. No 4th guy who's an All-star or borderline All-star like Andrew Wiggins or Andre Iguadala. No guy that's well-known as the 2nd best player in the NBA only behind Lebron and arguably 3rd best shooter in the NBA only behind Steph & Klay in Kevin Durant... Steph is the exact same player he's always been. He was just winning with a loaded team before and people just loved how he played as a suposedly "little guy" (6'3"🙄) while winning so he got extra credit for it.
@@gamechanger114 then you don’t watch enough Steph basketball, I don’t see how you can watch both Steph from the year they won and the year before and act like he’s currently as good as that. It’s clear that there’s a regression when there was multiple games this year where he didn’t make a three. The 20-21 season exists where he had an objectively worse team than last year.
@@gamechanger114 still a great player, but man do you even watch full games or just highlights
25,6, n 8 vs the lakers lmaooo
There is no way Halliburton is better than ja 😂
Bruh Joel gotta be on perc 10s
Not even close
This is like asking a question which player is better.. MVP Rose or MVP Nash??
Joel is recency biased man 😂 this shit get more ridiculous every video he has to be stopped .
13:14 guy wants to sound so smart but sounds so … 😂😂😂😂
Ja is top 3
take joel off the show that dude is delusional
I can’t watch this shit the disrespect to Ja is crazy
Comparing ja & Hali is like comparing Wemby & Bol Bol
Hali playing with a bad hamstring took his driving all the way down 11:13
Grizzlies had way more offensive power than the pacers before Ja got injured 😂😂
No way Joel just compared Steve Nash and Westbrook to ja morant and Tyrese Halliburton. 😂those are two completely different conversations. It’s a good debate for sure but
Ja Morants gravity when he’s on the court is next to none
As a Pacer fan and Hali fan this man Joel is tweakin
Ja is insane but his game is high octane. I’m not sure he can do what he’s going 10 years from now while Tyrese’s game is on the ground with unreal playmaking and shooting that ages gracefully.
For as long as I've been watching this show, it's crazy to see that Joel's takes have gotten worse over the last few months.
How is this even a question 🤦 recency bias is a mf
Funny part is De’Aaron Fox is better than both but most won’t know because of his situation
Ja got my nod jus because he’s competing in the west conversation over 😂
What’s even worst is these guys have Ja & Hali around the 5-6 range but then left Fox at number 10!!! I fkn hate NBA Twitter. Because it’s literally a popularity contest and it leaves out guys like Fox who plays for a small market Kings team.
Fox vs Ja. Take every single one of Jas strengths. Fox is better than him at it. Fox is basically the more polished version of Ja. They have literally about the same speed and athleticism. As amazing as Ja is at the rim, Fox is just as good as him too. Fox is a better mid range scorer. Fox is a better 3 point shooter. Fox is a better catch and shoot player and better off the ball. Fox is a much better defender. Fox is a much better half court player and is so much better than Ja in clutch moments. Fox won clutch player in 2023 and finished top 2 in 4th quarter scoring and 3rd in clutch points. Ja is the better playmaker but that’s about it. Fox is also more durable and is much more reliable with the off the court stuff.
With that being said, both of these guys are in the same exact tier. And they are neck and neck. But more importantly, they are both better than Haliburton.
Now let’s compare Fox vs Haliburton. All this talk about Haliburton being the better shooter but he shot 36% from 3. Fox shot 37% on the same exact attempts (7.8 per game). Fox is the better mid range scorer, slasher. Fox is the better isolation scorer. Hali is the better playmaker. I also think Hali is better at making his teammates better. Fox washes him defensively and it’s not even close. Fox is so much better in clutch moments and that’s not close. More importantly, Fox is also sooo much better in the playoffs and actually elevates his game even though defenses are giving him more attention. Haliburton stats go down in the playoffs. And many games, Haliburton was the 4th or 5th best scorer for his team. Fox is always the number 1 scoring option in every playoff game. Led the league in steals too. Better rebounder too even though Hali is taller. Fox is also more durable.
SO HOW THE FUCKKK IS FOX RANKED THE 10TH BEST PG and literally THE ENTIRE PANEL HAS HALI 5 SPOTS HIGHER!!? HOWWWW?? This is a clear example of how impactful NBA Twitter is and how much the bigger name matters. Super disappointed in all of you.
Ehhh man I hate this conversation because this was a legit debate before Hali messed his hamstring up. Production took a substantial dip after that along w/ the arrival of Siakam. But today I’m taking Ja
Ja is better but it’s very close
You have to be an insane casual and troll to honestly say with a straight face that Halliburton is better than Ja Morant. Like this recency bias needs to stop, this is disrespectful to Ja
Thinking anyone other than Luka is better than steph is CRAAAAAZZY, swap him with anyone other than luka and the team is better💯
Fans want to watch Ja morant highlights not Tyrese
Joel is a hilarious dude
10:55 it is crazy to have him over Ja 😭 please stay sober
Ja keeping these receipts. Haliburton isn’t even in the same tier. Playmaker? Sure. Basketball player? Hell-to-the-no.
Dame was shut down that year
People clowning joel but seriously when is ja gonna have a fully healthy postseason I kinda understand ja and Zion low for that reason
I agree with Joel. Give me a point guard that can actually shoot. Let the people hate brother. Teams can pack the paint and force Ja to shoot, which he is not very good at. Also this really hurts team building.
Ja can shoot it and make it when he’s open I can tell you don’t watch his game
Ja isn’t that bad of a shooter
Joel needs to stop and think at times bro . But you can’t blame him . People his height will be right
The disrespect of Sga clearly you guys never played on a basketball team or anything of that sort smh
Haliburton led a historic offense even BEFORE Siakam got there…. Yes Ja Morant might be a flashier player but Haliburton will get you more W’s. Quit hating on Haliburton
Memphis literally won more games than Indiana on 2 separate occasions lmaooo- Riv
also lead the team to a worse defense LMAOOOO
U sound smart and I’m lying btw
Grizzlies been 2nd in the WEST before the injuries this season
@@pickasideJa CLEARLY had a better team around him
For the 100th time, having a better season doesn’t make you a better player. I’m taking Steph in the playoffs over any point guard in the league
Joel needs to stop talking about basketball. No bullshit. The man does not know about the game of basketball. He’s an analytical guy.
Joel is crazy 🤣🤣
Super
Joel literally has the shittiest takes. That’s why this pod will never compete with NOTB
Jalen brunson meat riding is crazy
Curry Luka Shai (interchangeable 1-3), 4 Dame, 5 Brunson, 6 Ja, 7 Tyrese Hali, 8 Fox, 9 Maxey, 10 Trae or Jamal Murray.
Haliburton is better Than Ja😂😂😂
nacho libre should stick to eating
2:19 who tf farted mane
Ja clears this is a stupid convo
ja morant is better in every way hali just a better shooter and passer we gotta chill with thisn haliburton shit just cause hes a great passer dont make him a top 5 pg in any way
Y’all act like the grizzlies weren’t just the second seed two years ago. Ja is better than Dame, Brunson, & Hali
6:59 GTFO with that bs logic, u can argue siakim played better then reese for that playoff run & are we forgettin how nembhard was giving the celtics work to keep in em games during the ecf? acting like it was haliburton when it was a great run for the team.
He doesn’t watch basketball I’m sure
didnt want to click cause the vid felt like bait, if yk ball ja is better simpleeee
joel is delusional ja averaged 24 6 & 7 against the lakers while shooting 42 41 76???? he wasnt terrible!-
He was really bad, those numbers are inflated by garbage time, his best game came when they were down 30 in the first quarter. He had a bad series
@@drewp839 shit😂 im the delusional one then on that statement then
@@jeerell the excuse was he was injured, but you can’t have watched that series and thought he played well because he didn’t. He’s still the 5th best pg tho
Hali is better than ja yaw need to stop this. He’s a better shooter distributor ball handler leader more efficient doesn’t turn the ball over and slightly better defender. ja is only a better slasher. he could maybe be a better defender but only bc he’s more athletic which makes him more dangerous on the perimeter. Hali also has don’t better w less.
Is this guy trying to be skip bayless? Lol. Ja is far better than Halli
😂😂bro Tyrese is not close to ja morant in basketball it’s a gap ja was easily a top 6 top 7 player
Yall crazy ja will destroy tyrese watch
Ja better den ant
Blasphemy
This Ja Glaze is crazy😂😂😂
Ja is trash!!! Not a professional basketballer