@ 1 win against over .500 teams this season. 9-28 against .500 teams in his career. He’s been in 5 years and has done nothing but people say he’s top 5. At some point you have to produce.
@ hes never had a team thats been expected to even make the playoffs. He over performs pretty much every season. Before this year people were already calling him a social media qb based off ONE playoff appearance. Imagine if we judged other qbs like that
the Hurts disrespect is getting to a point where I can’t even understand it. If Hurts has a game as horrible as Herbert he would be crucified. Even when Herbert had weapons he played terrible in that playoff game vs the jags. Hurts is a top 5-7 qb, and the disrespect is crazy. Riv said CJ had “Jalen Hurts” stats like Jalen ain’t miss 3 games and didn’t account for his rushing. Shits insane to me
It boggles my fucking mind at how they switch shit up so fast😂 At some point talent has to equal production. Herbert doesn’t have a playoff win on his resume but yet he’s better than Hurts? Like ts is insane😂
@ last time i checked austin ekler, keenan allen, and gerald everrett played that game. Not only that but the defense caught 4 ints!!!! Not 1, Not 2, Not 3, But 4 ints. No way you’re trying to defend and game where a 3+ score lead was blown😂
The white guy with glasses always cook, I've been watching since my feed automatically sends you guys on next after Im done watching old football games
lamar jackson was labeled a playoff choker after 2 years in the league, and he played nowhere near as bad as herbert in the playoffs. lets see how herbert is labeled
I said it only the last episode if Herbert plays horrible he’s not top 5 and he’s no longer in that convo and is replaced with Hurts who should’ve been in that top 5 to begin with
Herbert now with 2 playoff games under his belt has proven he is a scrub QB. All fluff and no substance. Two terrible stat columns for both those playoff games in his career.
The most important thing I’ve learned as a chargers fan is that most people don’t actually watch or understand the game. Hebert played like shit. He will be labeled a choker until he proves otherwise but from 5 wins to 11 is nothing to scoff at. Without him the bolts win 5 or 6 games. He has to be better. He needs to get to that next level. If next year he doesn’t get a playoff win then charger fans like myself will definitely question if he’s the guy. Build the interior o-line. Find a consistent 50/50 go ball receiver. A tight end. Integrate more Stone smart in the offense. A few tweaks on defense. Idk if Greg Roman is the future, he has no creativity, he runs the ball like he has saquon or Henry. The Texans d-line was getting pressure with 4 pass rushers and they couldn’t throw a quick screen?? 4 sacks. 11 presses. 4 throws where is hand was hit. A lot of positive for a rebuilding years. I don’t get into the whole qb ranking or tiers thing because it’s all subjective due to every situation being different.
His face just looked like a beta males when he was about to be drafted. For that reason i wanted nothing to do with him. Things like this do matter in life. And have made my prospect reviews overall be overwhelmingly correct through 3 decades. In both the nba and nfl.
Mahomes Lamar Allen Burrow Cj (YES TOP 5! RIV IM DISAPPOINTED GANG) Matt (this is who I would concede for the 5 ((was mahomes before mahomes at Georgia 15:22 ifykyk)) Herbert Hurts Love
I feel for Herbert but I’ve just never gotten the hype for him though because is a great QB, but the guy has been annointed more than arguably Burrow who I honestly don’t like, but I can respect and know he is hands down a top 5 QB and arguably second behind Mahomes If he plays like he did this year. I think Herbert is prime example of how overrated and hyped up many QBs are and the over importance they get compared to other portions. Herbert is one of the prime examples of people saying if you get a star QB you will win a SB in 5 years. It’s been 5-6 years and have seen 2 bad playoff performances. The guy is still young and great players need to be humbled badly to take a step but I would’ve thought the loss to the Jags would’ve humbled him more, but we saw a worse performance than 2023. I see excuses about some of the these picks. That pick six was all him and probably put a huge dagger on the game. I’m no football or QB expert but I.look at the top QBs from Brady in the past to Mahomes now. Even QBs who weren’t top 5. As a Giants fan, Eli wasn’t at Brady, Peyton’s, or Brees tier but for me he still had the playmaking Ability to make tough clutch throws against best defenses and had IQ to adjust to plays pre snap or on the fly. I look at Herbert and you just see all talent hyped by media who tell him he is the golden boy with Burrow or Mahomes even if he doesn’t have jt like them. I don’t see the highest IQ QB or someone who really has the best skillset compared to Allen, Lamar, Mahomes, and Burrow in dealing with tougher defending espeoclaly the playoffs. I think Herbert will find his success in the future and can be that top 5 guy but these two playoff performances need to start being talked about and media have to stop coddling him but many QBs who have one good year or look good because their OCs are just really good and haven’t been really scouted yet. You see it with guys like Daniel’s who has his receivers open 85% of the time or someone like stroud who gets to play AFC south defenses 50% of the time lol. There is a difference between guys like Mahomes and Lamar with Herbert, Tua, and Daniel’s. Like people say it’s not given by media and cringe fanboys but EARNED through the game.
Y’all stay making excuses for QBs like Herbert and constantly disrespecting Stroud. He wasn’t amazing but he played well when it mattered. That’s what makes you elite. Fuck that arm talent, you can be strong as hell but if you don’t know how to throw that punch, you’re not nothing special.
@@soopss6640naaa we got it. But that’s besides the point, EVERYONE had the Texans losing to the sorry ass chargers. But I’ll be here next week to rub the Texans win
Herbert will never beat the allegations. He just doesn't have it. He can't lead his team to wins in big games. It is what it is. The odds of him becoming this assassin in big games is next to 0.
You have a problem of your own making. Justin Herbert was never a top 5 qb. He has always been at best the 10th best qb in the league. Jayden Daniels will solidify himself as a top 5 qb after he wins his first playoff game in his rookie year
I understand that Herbert should be ranked lower and I agree with Riv on that but he’s losing me with this “CJ is in a bad situation” type nonsense. Like yeah the O-Line is bad and his WRs get injured (even though most teams don’t have 3 great WRs). CJ lost to the Jets, Titans and Lions. Got the doors blown off him against the Ravens and was nowhere close to beating the Chiefs. I don’t think CJ Stroud is a bad QB but he’s not good enough to warrant washing his hands of the blame, he plays a big part in it. Let’s not forget that the Texans barely beat Mac Jones and they beat a Titans team last week that wanted the number one pick. They beat one good team all year when they played the Bills. They’re the AFC version of the Packers
@ they went 5-6 down the stretch after the buffalo game and couldn’t beat anyone with a winning record. His defense is very good and much more the reason why they won the game. They have gotten 4 INTs on Herbert and blocked a XP for 2. I get that CJ won more playoff games but you can’t tell me that he was a major factor in them winning against LA
Aye it’s time to hold Herbert accountable in the playoffs!! It’s no more excuses he had a borderline great defense and he gets to the playoffs and lay an egg!!! REMOVE HIM FROM TOP 5 CONVERSATIONS
Now you don’t see none special With cj but he won but the guy who Lost with all the talent is still top 5 no consistency. Dude tryna pop up Drake Maye now this is disgusting
The fact that you will take Justin Herbert over CJ is wild when CJ has proven he can consistently win in this league in 2 seasons has made it to the playoffs and won played behind the worst offensive line statistically and still managed to have a 20-14 record has yet to have a losing season while Herbert has been to the playoffs twice lost both games in embarrassing fashion has had 2 losing seasons with a top 10 oline a top 10 receiver threat out side of this season has continued to prove that when the game matters most he can’t get it done and this is the guy your taking over CJ lol in what world does that make sense but Herbert is a top 5 quarterback stop the cap I’m taking CJ Jlove Jayden Daniel’s of course patty the god Josh Allen JB Action Jackson and he’ll even Tlaw over Herbert any day of the week and twice on Sunday
Saying cj stroud does nothing at an elite level is kinda crazy for a year 2 quarterback in a slump he still has amazing touch and anticipation
The fact that “Chargers have 1 win against teams over .500” was mentioned and ignored tells me everything I need to know about his bias.
Herbert is the only quarterback who can go 11-6 after getting a new coach and completely new offense and still get hate
@ 1 win against over .500 teams this season. 9-28 against .500 teams in his career. He’s been in 5 years and has done nothing but people say he’s top 5. At some point you have to produce.
@@DROPOUTCRIS 2 TERRIBLE playoff games stop glazing
@jiii7033 they're just Herbert truthers they can't see the truth
@ hes never had a team thats been expected to even make the playoffs. He over performs pretty much every season. Before this year people were already calling him a social media qb based off ONE playoff appearance. Imagine if we judged other qbs like that
Time for some uncomfortable conversations about Justin Herbert.
Real uncomfortable at this moment
Very uncomfortable conversation!
he’s trash
They’ll never admit it
More arm talent doesn't mean better player.
Laker hat with Yankee poster in the back is sick work
😂😂😂😂
Lmaoooooo and he’s a chiefs fan former patriots fan 😂😂😂😂 🤡
@@JspekRexHe is a Kangaroo
I hate those type of sports fans for real
@@JspekRexhe’s a broncos fan
I watched y’all all pick the Chargers ..so great to see y’all have to backtrack
The difference between good vs elite qbs to me is can you perform under pressure all the defenses in the playoffs are good so that’s not a excuse
So y’all were ready to drag C.J. Stroud for a sophomore slump but Herbert is fine after these poor playoff performances? No more Herbert hype.
Y’all dudes still pick Herbert over stroud? Y’all are really unbiased. The Texans had one of the hardest schedules this year.
38:13 that’s a lie you did “cmon Lamar” earlier this season bro just be trying to ride every wave
the Hurts disrespect is getting to a point where I can’t even understand it. If Hurts has a game as horrible as Herbert he would be crucified. Even when Herbert had weapons he played terrible in that playoff game vs the jags. Hurts is a top 5-7 qb, and the disrespect is crazy. Riv said CJ had “Jalen Hurts” stats like Jalen ain’t miss 3 games and didn’t account for his rushing. Shits insane to me
Riv is not an eagles fan man convinced 😭😭
It boggles my fucking mind at how they switch shit up so fast😂 At some point talent has to equal production. Herbert doesn’t have a playoff win on his resume but yet he’s better than Hurts? Like ts is insane😂
herbert didnt have weapons in that jags game either. you could argue his weapons in this game today were actually better than that game lol
@ last time i checked austin ekler, keenan allen, and gerald everrett played that game. Not only that but the defense caught 4 ints!!!! Not 1, Not 2, Not 3, But 4 ints. No way you’re trying to defend and game where a 3+ score lead was blown😂
@ if you truly believe that the weapons were better today than 2022, idk what to tell you
Hating Lamar is weird behavior..
The white guy with glasses always cook, I've been watching since my feed automatically sends you guys on next after Im done watching old football games
lamar jackson was labeled a playoff choker after 2 years in the league, and he played nowhere near as bad as herbert in the playoffs. lets see how herbert is labeled
Can we shoutout to big Patrick ricard and the ravens oline for creating these massive run lanes !!
It always kills me when people act like commentators can see the future. Everyone thought Houston would lose but the Chargers definitely imploded
I said it only the last episode if Herbert plays horrible he’s not top 5 and he’s no longer in that convo and is replaced with Hurts who should’ve been in that top 5 to begin with
CJ is the youngest QB in the playoffs...
Joel when Ravens and chiefs meet in the championship game please don’t pick against us stay with us all the way 🥹
Stroud only had 1 interception not a couple lol
Thank you boys for your service
Herbert broke me man
I'm incredibly disappointed
Anyone not named Ladd McConkey was also a huge letdown.
When did Dehls hop off the Hurts train? Like it just seemed to happen outta nowhere
The Houston LA game was not boring.... I couldnt sit down...
First half was dreadful
@@Shlki_thmpsn19why? Because you don’t like defensive battles?
@@MildsandThatYac no cz both qb play was terrible. There’s good defense and then there’s bad offense. That was bad offense on both sides
It’s time to take Herbert out the top 5 please. Super talented but he rarely makes the playoffs and when he does he stinks it up like that.
All of those picks isn’t on him
@@IMTROLLINGYOU99🤣🤣🤣
@@IMTROLLINGYOU991 wasn’t his fault. 3 were.
@ Ladd one just depends on how you view it , some people think if the ball touches your hands then you should catch it
They never keep the same energy for certain qbs
Herbert now with 2 playoff games under his belt has proven he is a scrub QB. All fluff and no substance. Two terrible stat columns for both those playoff games in his career.
6:03 so emotional about CJ and Texans ahah 😂
The most important thing I’ve learned as a chargers fan is that most people don’t actually watch or understand the game. Hebert played like shit. He will be labeled a choker until he proves otherwise but from 5 wins to 11 is nothing to scoff at. Without him the bolts win 5 or 6 games. He has to be better. He needs to get to that next level. If next year he doesn’t get a playoff win then charger fans like myself will definitely question if he’s the guy. Build the interior o-line. Find a consistent 50/50 go ball receiver. A tight end. Integrate more Stone smart in the offense. A few tweaks on defense. Idk if Greg Roman is the future, he has no creativity, he runs the ball like he has saquon or Henry. The Texans d-line was getting pressure with 4 pass rushers and they couldn’t throw a quick screen?? 4 sacks. 11 presses. 4 throws where is hand was hit. A lot of positive for a rebuilding years. I don’t get into the whole qb ranking or tiers thing because it’s all subjective due to every situation being different.
Justin Herbert is the AFC’s Kirk Cousins. He isn’t as good as his stats say he is and he chokes in the playoffs
such a braindead take. you dont watch him play. literally is nothing like kirk at all.
His face just looked like a beta males when he was about to be drafted. For that reason i wanted nothing to do with him. Things like this do matter in life. And have made my prospect reviews overall be overwhelmingly correct through 3 decades. In both the nba and nfl.
@@jay24072how many picks in playoff games
Justin Gerber baby is a game manager. CJ is a game changer. That’s the difference.
Nah not being a Mike Vick fan is INSANE 😭🤣🤣🤣
15:50 hahaha still taking Herbert?!
30:20 that chiefs game will be close
Yall said Joe Mixon was most experienced, but it's actually Robert Woods.
You can’t take Dehls seriously he said AR would be better than Bryce and CJ😂😂😂
We repping bdge boys hell yes
Mahomes
Lamar
Allen
Burrow
Cj (YES TOP 5! RIV IM DISAPPOINTED GANG)
Matt (this is who I would concede for the 5 ((was mahomes before mahomes at Georgia 15:22 ifykyk))
Herbert
Hurts
Love
I would put Hurts above Herbert, one has had playoff success the other has not
I feel for Herbert but I’ve just never gotten the hype for him though because is a great QB, but the guy has been annointed more than arguably Burrow who I honestly don’t like, but I can respect and know he is hands down a top 5 QB and arguably second behind Mahomes
If he plays like he did this year.
I think Herbert is prime example of how overrated and hyped up many QBs are and the over importance they get compared to other portions.
Herbert is one of the prime examples of people saying if you get a star QB you will win a SB in 5 years. It’s been 5-6 years and have seen 2 bad playoff performances.
The guy is still young and great players need to be humbled badly to take a step but I would’ve thought the loss to the Jags would’ve humbled him more, but we saw a worse performance than 2023.
I see excuses about some of the these picks. That pick six was all him and probably put a huge dagger on the game.
I’m no football or QB expert but I.look at the top QBs from Brady in the past to Mahomes now. Even QBs who weren’t top 5. As a Giants fan, Eli wasn’t at Brady, Peyton’s, or Brees tier but for me he still had the playmaking
Ability to make tough clutch throws against best defenses and had IQ to adjust to plays pre snap or on the fly.
I look at Herbert and you just see all talent hyped by media who tell him he is the golden boy with Burrow or Mahomes even if he doesn’t have jt like them.
I don’t see the highest IQ QB or someone who really has the best skillset compared to Allen, Lamar, Mahomes, and Burrow in dealing with tougher defending espeoclaly the playoffs.
I think Herbert will find his success in the future and can be that top 5 guy but these two playoff performances need to start being talked about and media have to stop coddling him but many QBs who have one good year or look good because their OCs are just really good and haven’t been really scouted yet.
You see it with guys like Daniel’s who has his receivers open 85% of the time or someone like stroud who gets to play AFC south defenses 50% of the time lol.
There is a difference between guys like Mahomes and Lamar with Herbert, Tua, and Daniel’s.
Like people say it’s not given by media and cringe fanboys but EARNED through the game.
I hate to say it, but is Justin Herbert just Dak Prescott?
Not at all
Dak can win a playoff game every now and then. Herbert can't.
@ dude he’s only been in the 2 times , give him time the chargers are building something really good over there
Why we asking is Herbert better then Burrow, when Burrow is either 1 or 2 this year
Y’all stay making excuses for QBs like Herbert and constantly disrespecting Stroud. He wasn’t amazing but he played well when it mattered. That’s what makes you elite. Fuck that arm talent, you can be strong as hell but if you don’t know how to throw that punch, you’re not nothing special.
All the Houston Slander got yall Speaking Humbled now lol #RespectTheBull
Drove through the city tonight, nothing but Green lit buildings, Roll motherfckin Birds!🦅
Hello PAS 🤓
KEEP SLEEPING ON THE TEXANS
Brody they are not doing anything against the chiefs😂
That defense is no fkin joke
@@soopss6640naaa we got it. But that’s besides the point, EVERYONE had the Texans losing to the sorry ass chargers. But I’ll be here next week to rub the Texans win
@@RuhnaeTX37-20
@ delusion at its finest😭sad to say but the Texans stand no chance vs the chiefs
The fact that yall are picking Herbert a year 5 QB with no playoffs wins vs Stroud with 2 and no oline is CRAZY!!!!!!. STROUD is hands down better
😂😂 Tony romo was talented dead ass . Does not mean you can win when it matters Justin is tony romo !
We already know most of these boys picked the chargers
Drew freezing 😂😂
Herbert will never beat the allegations. He just doesn't have it. He can't lead his team to wins in big games. It is what it is. The odds of him becoming this assassin in big games is next to 0.
You have a problem of your own making. Justin Herbert was never a top 5 qb. He has always been at best the 10th best qb in the league. Jayden Daniels will solidify himself as a top 5 qb after he wins his first playoff game in his rookie year
I understand that Herbert should be ranked lower and I agree with Riv on that but he’s losing me with this “CJ is in a bad situation” type nonsense. Like yeah the O-Line is bad and his WRs get injured (even though most teams don’t have 3 great WRs). CJ lost to the Jets, Titans and Lions. Got the doors blown off him against the Ravens and was nowhere close to beating the Chiefs. I don’t think CJ Stroud is a bad QB but he’s not good enough to warrant washing his hands of the blame, he plays a big part in it. Let’s not forget that the Texans barely beat Mac Jones and they beat a Titans team last week that wanted the number one pick. They beat one good team all year when they played the Bills. They’re the AFC version of the Packers
He plays well when it matters that’s the difference. 2 playoff wins in his first two years.
@ they went 5-6 down the stretch after the buffalo game and couldn’t beat anyone with a winning record. His defense is very good and much more the reason why they won the game. They have gotten 4 INTs on Herbert and blocked a XP for 2. I get that CJ won more playoff games but you can’t tell me that he was a major factor in them winning against LA
They lost by 8 against the Cheifs tf you smoking bro. They lost by one possession.
@@MildsandThatYac the game wasn’t that close near the end of the game and the offense was stagnant. You clearly were looking at the box score
CJ Stroud has 2 playoff wins and Herbert has 0. CJ is better name one Herbert moment he has had in the regular season or playoffs ? I’ll wait
Aye it’s time to hold Herbert accountable in the playoffs!! It’s no more excuses he had a borderline great defense and he gets to the playoffs and lay an egg!!! REMOVE HIM FROM TOP 5 CONVERSATIONS
It's mahomes world. Chiefs kingdom baby
Saying Herbert needs a perfect situation..... Tells you all you need to know overhyped
Now you don’t see none special
With cj but he won but the guy who
Lost with all the talent is still top 5 no consistency. Dude tryna pop up Drake Maye now this is disgusting
So yall value talent over results at QB ? I know this guy Zack Allen who’s super talented
Goff is definitely over Herbert
Agreed, Goff can win playoff games. Herbert never ever will.
John somewhere crying in a corner😂😂😂😂
This dude has the audacity to glaze overrated herbert and talk down on cj smh 🤦🏿
The fact that you will take Justin Herbert over CJ is wild when CJ has proven he can consistently win in this league in 2 seasons has made it to the playoffs and won played behind the worst offensive line statistically and still managed to have a 20-14 record has yet to have a losing season while Herbert has been to the playoffs twice lost both games in embarrassing fashion has had 2 losing seasons with a top 10 oline a top 10 receiver threat out side of this season has continued to prove that when the game matters most he can’t get it done and this is the guy your taking over CJ lol in what world does that make sense but Herbert is a top 5 quarterback stop the cap I’m taking CJ Jlove Jayden Daniel’s of course patty the god Josh Allen JB Action Jackson and he’ll even Tlaw over Herbert any day of the week and twice on Sunday
Texans can beat the chiefs but the refs gone cheat for them everyone know that
Jalen Hurts isn’t even top 10 stop bringing him up in these convos
Relax
Cap 😭
🧢
Man Dellz is delusional. Herbert is a good not great qb. Jayden's doing more with less. Jayden is already way better 😂
herbert not top 10
mahomes
lamar
burrow
allen
stafford
goff
cj stroud
love
mayfield
jayden daniels
I respect this list so much thank you
You all suck the Texans will win it all lol❤❤❤❤