Tips For Your First Pedalboard Build - That Pedal Show

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  • Welcome to That Pedal Show! Please subscribe to our channel and visit our store www.thatpedalshowstore.com
    Life too short for long UA-cam videos? Please see the ‘Interesting bits and go-to sections’ information below.
    In this episode we discuss and demonstrate the things you need to think about when putting together your first pedalboard. It’s the really basic stuff like choice of board, potential layout, fixing pedals to the board, power, cabling and so on. We try to keep it as entry-level as possible, but if you want something more involved, check out our big board build videos!
    More on a big board build: • That Pedal Show - Peda...
    More on power and power supplies: • That Pedal Show - How ...
    So come on, join us - you know you want to!
    PLEASE NOTE:
    We spoke with Mission Engineering about the issue we experienced with the 529 at around 1:02:18. Since our review unit, Mission tells us it has made a modification to the 529 to eliminate this… and is offering a free mod/upgrade to any customers experiencing issues with units made before the mod. Contact details at www.missionengineering.com
    Pedals & stuff in this episode…
    • Pedalboard tape: shop.thegigrig.com/pedal-boar...
    • Pedaltrain Metro 16 Soft Case
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2YXpoKq
    Australia: bit.ly/2KvhcOk
    USA: imp.i114863.net/ndDa6
    • TheGigRig Modular Power Supply
    www.thegigrig.com/power
    • Sonic Research ST-300 Turbo Tuner Mini
    USA: bit.ly/2AYjob5
    Australia: bit.ly/2mR1s8c
    • JAM Pedals Rattler
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2vtdFtq
    USA: bit.ly/3CW6s1F
    Australia: bit.ly/3GJehdm
    www.jampedals.com/rattler/
    • Mooer Treliocopter
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2i8yiDi
    • Snouse Electric Company Black Box OD2 Stage Pro Mod
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2VCE9QL
    • Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man 1100-TT
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2WbQLhG
    USA: imp.i114863.net/31b2K
    • Mission Engineering 529 USB Power Supply
    Australia: bit.ly/2uVLYWa
    USA: imp.i114863.net/vdeXd
    • Ibanez TS10 Tube Screamer
    No longer made
    • Mythos Pedals Runestone
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2XBYJ5d
    • Fox Gear Echosex Baby
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2rv2Dhj
    • TC Electronic Ditto
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2v1PspS
    USA: imp.i114863.net/dd4xM
    Australia: bit.ly/2X17xAv
    Our favourite pedalboards…
    • Schmidt Array: www.schmidtarray.com/custom
    And…
    • Pedaltrain: pedaltrain.com/
    • Alder & Ash www.alderandashpedalboards.com/
    • Custom Pedal Boards: www.custompedalboards.co.uk/
    Why do we have preferred retailer links? Find out here: www.thatpedalshow.com/partners
    Interesting bits and go-to sections…
    - Welcome: 00:00
    - What are we doing today? 0:33
    - When do you ‘need’ a pedalboard? 1:31
    - What do I need? 1:52
    - What are the advantages of having a pedalboard? 2:17
    - The boards begin! 4:21
    - Mick’s board: 4:31
    - Dan’s choices: 6:30
    - A tuner? 7:56
    - Choosing the board itself: 9:00
    - Dan’s board choice: 9:58
    - Different types of board/case: 11:00
    - The DIY board? 12:45
    - Thinking about layout and signal path: 14:35
    - Pedal order? 20:00
    - Attaching pedals: 21:05
    - Cable ties? 24:10
    - Why the loop side on the bottom? 25:25
    - Pedalboard tape? 26:30
    - Removing pedals: 28:30
    - Pedal jacks and positioning: 29:30
    - Power! 31:30
    - Dan’s power choice: 33:00
    - mA and current draw: 33:20
    - Plugs and centre-negative: 34:45
    - Isolation: 36:38
    - Mick’s power supply: 37:05
    - Connecting the power to the pedals and all that… 39:20
    - Mick’s patch cables: 47:13
    - Dan’s audio connections: 50:19
    - Give your board a name? 53:40
    - Ta-da! Let’s hear them then… 54:07
    - Uh-oh… trouble: 58:45
    - A nice loopy loop: 59:30
    - Fixing that trouble and diagnosis: 1:02:20
    - And jam out!
    Guitars in this episode:
    • Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster - Mick’s video at bit.ly/2cQv3yT
    • Fender Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster - Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
    Amps in this episode
    • Vox AC15C1 with Celestion G12M Greenback speaker
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/36BSfrw
    USA: bit.ly/3E0H1Qs
    • Fender Blues Junior III with standard speaker - No longer made, link to latest version
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2O80417
    USA: imp.i114863.net/yNGzV
    We hope you enjoy this episode. Please subscribe to our channel.
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    UK & Europe: Andertons Music bit.ly/2cRvIvt
    Australia: Pedal Empire bit.ly/2mWmJQf
    USA: That Pedal Shop www.thatpedalshop.com/

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  • @patrickcarroll1754
    @patrickcarroll1754 5 років тому +635

    This is like a cooking show for effects pedals.

    • @terrymiller111
      @terrymiller111 4 роки тому +6

      Excellent observation.

    • @MickForjay
      @MickForjay 4 роки тому +9

      Only until they start dropping pedals into a big pot of boiling water.

    • @DarkoP9.13
      @DarkoP9.13 4 роки тому +4

      @@MickForjay
      Rockbox
      Boiling point

    • @thomasseaton8320
      @thomasseaton8320 3 роки тому +3

      They should randomly cut to D&M enjoying a sumptuous meal at the end instead of demoing their new mini boards. No explanation.

    • @michaelcolemanuk
      @michaelcolemanuk 3 роки тому +1

      Public service announcement.

  • @MythosPedals
    @MythosPedals 5 років тому +405

    That moment as a pedal builder when your pedal is on your favorite UA-cam show and does a high pitch whistle as soon as it’s turned on... !!!

    • @hoboroadie
      @hoboroadie 5 років тому +5

      Aaaah!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  5 років тому +131

      Oh mate! It wasn't the pedal - it was the power supply!
      More soon. I am LOVING the Argo. Crazy crazy crazy good. :0)

    • @MythosPedals
      @MythosPedals 5 років тому +62

      That Pedal Show I’m so glad you’re digging it!

    • @thisisduncan917
      @thisisduncan917 3 роки тому +2

      You could just blame it on the White House.

    • @JS-rp7qb
      @JS-rp7qb 3 роки тому +1

      @@What11235 the butt hurt is strong with this one

  • @theplaidpenguin
    @theplaidpenguin 5 років тому +281

    Man I wish this video existed 20 years ago when I first started getting pedals. Daisy chains and cheap patch cables all over the place. People don’t realize the service you are providing. Keep it up guys.

    • @yomuthabyotch
      @yomuthabyotch 5 років тому +12

      ah the good ol days of the carpetboard! sweet nostalgia.

    • @theplaidpenguin
      @theplaidpenguin 5 років тому +2

      Wild Eye Right?!? I am embarrassed that I got my first good power supply for my pedal board in 2005 or so.

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 5 років тому +2

      @Wild Eye I'll put my hand up to the same mistake. Hey, got a lot of great (and pricey) pedals, nice guitar(s) and a couple of sweet valve amps. Now...power...hmm, those Joyo PS seem pretty good...
      D'Oh!!!
      Thanks be to D & M, now I have a Strymon Ojai with a Zuma on the way. Can finally use the high ma units wirhout bloody separate adapters into a power board. Line6 M5, revenge is mine! TC Vintage Delay, 12v 270ma? Bwahaha you cannot defeat me with your puny ma draw, now!

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 5 років тому +3

      I'd buy GigRig but they are always sold out and buying from overseas? I also need to eat, eh.

    • @mollet09
      @mollet09 5 років тому +2

      I'm just starting with this pedalboard thing. Can someone tell me the difference between a daisychain and a power supply? and how does it affect the sound?. I'll appreciate it

  • @ccombs2666
    @ccombs2666 5 років тому +281

    I love the contrast. Mick's board looks like a well executed 1st pedalboard. Dan's crack at a "1st pedal board" - nuclear fusion reactor into the distributor into the isolator into the timelord into boutique Rat clone. LOL never change.

    • @Zaronion
      @Zaronion 5 років тому +23

      I knew something like that was going to happen as soon as I clicked the video, and I was chuckling to myself when Dan said he was gonna use GigRig stuff for the power supply :D

    • @jonathanstewart5269
      @jonathanstewart5269 5 років тому +6

      Neither of them looks like a first pedal board.

    • @Zaronion
      @Zaronion 5 років тому +20

      @@jonathanstewart5269 Honestly, I can definitely see Mick's Version being a first pedalboard, if you were to inform yourself beforehand about how a pedalboard is supposed to look like/be made. A "well-informed" first pedalboard, so to speak. If you were to go in completely blind, however, then you obviously also wouldn't be able to make it as nice as Mick's, even.

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 5 років тому +4

      It's like Marty McFly and the Doc.

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 5 років тому +5

      If Marty had actually paid attention to the Doc's advice.

  • @HectorGF17
    @HectorGF17 4 роки тому +65

    Everytime I see them I have the same though: man, I've never seen such a great 2-piece team.

  • @nousername4956
    @nousername4956 3 роки тому +16

    Really like how you guys clearly both have a ton of knowledge but you don’t come across like you’re competing with each other on who knows more. Seems like an uncommon quality

  • @earwaxuk
    @earwaxuk 5 років тому +94

    A quick thought on attaching velcro or dual lock tape on the bottom of Boss pedals.
    If you unscrew the base plate, you can turn it over and screw it back on with the inner surface facing out. Then you can put your velcro on without any trouble.

    • @jamesmolloy5350
      @jamesmolloy5350 4 роки тому +8

      this comment just saved me ripping the rubber base of the bottom of my boss pedals, thankyou!

    • @ryans9029
      @ryans9029 4 роки тому +14

      Neither things is necessary. Just put a piece of Velcro on the middle of the bottom plate, between the rubber pads... Absolutely no problem with it sticking.
      Don't make it harder than it needs to be fellas

    • @zammie01
      @zammie01 3 роки тому +4

      Tried this with my Boss Tremolo. It doesn't work cos the rubber pad presses against the IC board. But good guess anyway!

    • @prOkrEAt
      @prOkrEAt 3 роки тому

      @@ryans9029 this is correct.

    • @owenandrew8108
      @owenandrew8108 3 роки тому

      @@jamesmolloy5350 damn, i already did that lol. ill make sure to use this trick in the future tho.

  • @jimsy5530
    @jimsy5530 5 років тому +120

    From what i've learned watching That Pedal Show over the years. You need 1 Centaur, 1 King Of Tone, 1 Strymon blue sky, taped to a astroturfed pallet. Done.

    • @smwatson1512
      @smwatson1512 5 років тому +18

      + an original essentially priceless tape delay of some kind.

    • @theblockyrocker9060
      @theblockyrocker9060 5 років тому +2

      I don't remember these guys ever using a blue sky. They are more delay than reverb guys imo.

    • @mojoman2001
      @mojoman2001 5 років тому +2

      Be realistic. Both Timeline and Blue Sky.
      Also, I guess "Earth" and "ground" mean the same on opposite sides of the pond.

    • @vibroluxon8
      @vibroluxon8 5 років тому +1

      I sold my centaur, that I bought new a long time ago, because I like the Benson Preamp pedal a lot more. First pedal I ever found to be better than a klon.

    • @glennlilley8608
      @glennlilley8608 3 роки тому

      @@vibroluxon8 I know I'm a little late to the party so to speak, but I really am surprised that the plastic know it all brigade, haven't jumped all over you with; OFFS isms! y'know?
      Like/don't like? It's all subjective

  • @patrickcarroll1754
    @patrickcarroll1754 5 років тому +17

    There is no such thing as too many of these kind of instructional videos. Especially with this duo.

  • @jaceksikora5920
    @jaceksikora5920 5 років тому +57

    Jaming with looper should be mandatory part of each TPS episode. Awesome guys 👍

  • @robkiernan8905
    @robkiernan8905 3 роки тому +9

    Lads, I can't play the guitar and after watching this even I want a pedal board😂 what a great show!!!

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert7347 5 років тому +31

    Great ep. Every pedalboard build feels like my first.
    First "pedalboard" was:
    Ibanez Fat Cat>Boss Phaser>Washburn Stereo Chorus>Boss DD-something. Can't remember which one.
    Board: the floor
    Power supply: batteries
    Amp: Ashton Solid State 60W something (dubbed "The Noisemaker")
    Guitar: a good one! MIJ Vox SG copy. Solid AF, sounded awesome. Stolen in 1992. I know who did it and if I ever find him, to quote Tom Verlaine "I'll squeeze his head right into my fist"

  • @Yupppi
    @Yupppi 5 років тому +8

    The face when every great guitar youtube channel releases a good video on friday and you realize you're not gonna do anything the whole day but watch those videos... Have mercy, guitar gurus.

  • @vanhaluke
    @vanhaluke 5 років тому +99

    So that's why my board sounded bad!
    I was using black tape instead of the orange kind

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 5 років тому +5

      @Robbi Rose I use buffered tape first and last and true bypass tape for the rest.
      It's the "buffer sandwich tape" method.

    • @jel8113
      @jel8113 3 роки тому +2

      maybe you should buy some new guitars to fix this

    • @ericaltenberg1230
      @ericaltenberg1230 3 роки тому

      Matt Gilbert w as we w

  • @jamesmccartyjr10
    @jamesmccartyjr10 5 років тому +3

    I'm 57 and just beginning to learn guitar. And thanks to you my first pedal board has a analogman sunface bc 183 and the ardx20 analog dual delay plus a prince of tone. Also have a thorpy fallout cloud, keeley compressor plus, boss waza chorus and delay, boss md 500, and angry driver and a neunaber immerse reverb. And a keeley filaments, wampler Tumnus deluxe and plexi drive deluxe. I guess its a mid life crisis but instead of a red convertible mustang i'm collecting guitar gear.

    • @robertwhitcomb6105
      @robertwhitcomb6105 4 роки тому

      james mccarty jr consider an MXR analog delay. It’s got a nice organic tone, and not that pricy

  • @kennethlinton4432
    @kennethlinton4432 22 дні тому

    Could watch these guys ALL day long!

  • @tituschalk
    @tituschalk 5 років тому +7

    Ah man... at the end of the day... it's all about making righteous noise with your buddies. Thanks for empowering so many of us to do that you guys.

  • @JYelton
    @JYelton 5 років тому +19

    As an electrical engineer, I think it would be good to explain why a daisy chain power supply is not a good choice. Even if you have an amazingly clean, well-built supply, the problem occurs when the pedals are wired in parallel (daisy chained). Each pedal will generate some amount of electrical noise... some more than others. So the clean power is compromised immediately, and other pedals then get noise on their input power. Isolated just means each pedal gets a separate run that has regulation, filter caps, etc. in a star topology. Dan's absolutely right, avoid the daisy chain style. It's not a diss on any manufacturer, nor being an audio snob; it's just electrical wisdom. Cheers!

    • @jb71488
      @jb71488 Рік тому

      Thanks for the info!! What's the alternative? 9 volt batteries all around?

    • @chriselliott726
      @chriselliott726 Рік тому

      @@jb71488 Certainly, except a Iot of modern smaller pedals don't take batteries.

  • @xJAWAx
    @xJAWAx 3 роки тому +6

    After 20 years of bass playing I'm finally getting into pedals. So much good information in here and just fun to watch. Thanks guys.

  • @joetoe9207
    @joetoe9207 3 роки тому +1

    You two are golden,: your knowledge, teaching skills, interactive vibe....Its a total thrill for me to watch your shows. I'm returning to guitar after a long run on drums and you two have informed so much of my "rig" decisions. And so entertaining! You sure have a lot of fans in the community. Thank you for continuing to provide these great shows!

  • @WinterHillTube
    @WinterHillTube 5 років тому +10

    Always found it useful to have a multimeter on hand, too. Continuity for testing cables and isolation of power supply grounds - before you start jamming ;) - and DC voltage for double checking correct voltage and polarity. Not necessarily expensive and cuts out exposing pedals to inevitable goofs.

  • @SJCameron89
    @SJCameron89 5 років тому +3

    Cannot thank you enough for this video. As someone who loves the show and have learned a lot about tone and sound this is probably the most useful video for me. This is exactly what I needed for my first build

  • @genesisfalling
    @genesisfalling 5 років тому +1

    Great show guys. Ive been through many pedal boards and currently have a large one all controlled with a Gigrig Qmx10. I love pedals, but just brought a Morgan PR36 amp head, and 3 hours later my pedal board had not left its bag. This is the first amp this has happened to me, where I was just lost in how good it sounded, with the most amazing spring reverb I've heard in it. Sounds incredible with my pedal board as well. I'm in tone heaven.

  •  5 років тому +1

    I have never have a played my Gibson & Fender guitars through any pedal. Just straight through my Fender, Marshall, Vox & Blackstar tube amps. I see how your excellent demonstration on your "first pedal board" educates everyone who wants, needs a pedal board the incentive to create & build one for oneself! So grateful and thankful for you both on sharing your knowledge! Thank you Dan & Mick! Incredible video!

  • @MrBodoFraggins
    @MrBodoFraggins 5 років тому +7

    I always look forward to new and fun things on your show, but I really appreciate you doing some "basics" kind of videos too! Not everyone around here has been playing for a long time. Kudos gents.

  • @robertwiley7744
    @robertwiley7744 4 роки тому +4

    Best hour and some change that I've spent on UA-cam in quite a while!

  • @CrutchExe
    @CrutchExe 5 років тому +1

    This just went from like an hour of talking about pedals to some of the most beautiful guitar playing I’ve heard in years.
    I love these guys

  • @DerekLewisSuperStar
    @DerekLewisSuperStar 5 років тому +1

    Thanks so much for getting around to making this one! - This was my request shortly after the show first aired - and I really am grateful for this as well as the many years of great service I've gotten from you Dan. After watching this I guess I'll break down and buy a bag of zip ties for my temporary boards and use them instead of rubber bands...

  • @WeskerDyszel
    @WeskerDyszel 5 років тому +3

    More jams on TPS! when Mick kicked on that runestone, my first though was "eh, that's not my cup of tea". Dan starts playing, and suddenly it just makes so much more sense - context is everything!

  • @TheSmithguitars
    @TheSmithguitars 5 років тому +3

    What a great jam!. New Rule: You must loop and play like this waaaaaay more often! You've set the bar high with EOB and this one--you guys were channeling your inner EOB in there. Just.Great.

  • @shakyblues2099
    @shakyblues2099 3 роки тому +2

    This is great. I've been playing guitar now for 30 years and never owned a pedalboard! Always had either modelling amps or single pedals loose on the floor.
    So I'm going to build one... Thanks for the inspiration.
    Really enjoying your channel as ever.

  • @thelimper5313
    @thelimper5313 5 років тому +1

    The last pedal board I built which I still use, I was searching for a power supply which is a real minefield. I came across a UA-cam video recommending thegigrig moduler power supply. I then found Dans UA-cam channel with the first few episodes of that pedal show on. I watched the shows, ordered a power supply and both have been keeping me company every Friday night since. Fantastic show and thegigrig is the best power supply without a doubt. Thanks

  • @maciveri
    @maciveri 5 років тому +4

    Really loved this particular pedal show, the format made so much sense. Fulfilling what I would assume is an ever-increasing need for your audience, as you draw in more and inevitably (and brilliantly) more inexperience peddlers. Not only that, your end jam was wonderful (great to see you playing together) sounded ace, and best of all, it was a sublime demonstration of the episode's subject matter in a "real-world" context.
    Keep doing what you're doing. I for one have and continue to be inspired, informed, and entertained.
    Thanks,
    Macc

  • @evanmiller2579
    @evanmiller2579 5 років тому +3

    Super fun video. Brought me back to building my first pedal board. I had the Boss BCB6 plastic board with all Boss pedals. The Boss power supply had you daisy chain them all together. I thought it was so killer. Boss CS2, CE2, BF2 (Flanger), HM2 (Heavy Metal), and DD2 (delay). Still have the DD2 and the CS2. They are considered vintage now. Monday my Schmidt Array Board arrives from Germany. My Gigrig G2 is already here. So....34 years after building my first pedal board, along with 15 other boards since, I may be building my last pedal board. :) Cheers!!

  • @zackguitar07
    @zackguitar07 5 років тому

    Fantastic episode, Dan and Mick! I’ve had a pretty massive board for a while now and last week helped my best friend and bandmate build his first with a tuner, overdrive, fuzz, chorus, and delay and he’s as hooked on gear as I am. Many thanks for all you do to educate us and show us how to enjoy our gear!

  • @PJSGBC
    @PJSGBC 5 років тому

    I am not sure you guys are appreciated enough. There was not a new bit of data here for me, but it did take me a couple of decades to know everything it just took you a little over an hour to do. Clearly there must needs be a part 2 and part 3 with upgraded to good pedal board and pro pedal board respectively. The fact that I knew the info and still watched is a testimony to you guys being great at this. Thanks so much.

  • @LodvarDude
    @LodvarDude 5 років тому +3

    Back to basics! Sweet! We all need this now and then!

  • @crispysyd9190
    @crispysyd9190 5 років тому +8

    What's wrong Hal? Lmao!
    You guys just kill it when you play together. Love it,
    Best show on YT!!!

  • @matabercrombie3816
    @matabercrombie3816 5 років тому +2

    My first pedal board was the top of a school desk that I found in a dumpster, cut to the size and shape of a “replacement” SKB soft case I got for cheep. My dad jerry-rigged me some power distribution using a single Dunlop power supply I had, a piece of circuitboard he had lying around in the garage, and a bunch of wires and connectors. Essentially an over engineered and unsightly daisychain which we literally screwed to the board. I wish I had pictures of that thing, but alas, these were the days before cell phone cameras... The pedals, I believe, were a Crybaby, a Boss Mega Distortion, a Boss Bass Overdrive (cool sounds to be had with a guitar), PH3 Phaser, BF2 Flanger, and a DD5 Delay, with a QuikTune tuner which only tuned to standard tuning.
    I was so proud of that monstrosity...

  • @seanpaul6444
    @seanpaul6444 5 років тому

    Good stuff guys! Built my first pedalboard 3 times in a row this winter but it’s gigging like a champ now!! Poly tune, Boss AD2, MxR Super Badass Dist, Boss BD2, Wampler Analog Echo Delay, Hall of Fame, digitech jamman stereo...voodoo labs power.
    Couldn’t have done it without you!!

  • @jimduffy9773
    @jimduffy9773 5 років тому +3

    Enjoyed the pedal build. I finished my first board today. A Snouze Black Box is 1st in the chain!

  • @IceDragonASLT
    @IceDragonASLT 5 років тому +4

    Would have been years away before I built a board if it wasn't for you guys sharing your knowledge, thank you. Gigrig power & your d&m drive will never leave my board. btw the little jam at the end with both of you playing... give us more more more with a rebel yell.

  • @BrianLeverett
    @BrianLeverett 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks, guys! After playing for 23 years, you’ve inspired me to build my very first pedalboard. I used Mick’s wood design. Love the info! I actually watched this video twice. Keep up the great work and, yes, entertainment!

  • @bu5hm4nn
    @bu5hm4nn 5 років тому

    After using modeling for ever (started out with a Behringer V-Amp and ending that with my GT-100) I finally found all these great pedal shows like yours and am now setting out to actually build a pedal board. This show is so perfect timing, I can hardly believe it just popped up in my UA-cam feed. Your show is among a small handful with the best tones and audio quality! You guys are awesome!

  • @khengharhu
    @khengharhu 5 років тому +7

    "what's wrong HAL?" hahaha! I love you guys!

  • @TheHowardSinclair
    @TheHowardSinclair 4 роки тому +4

    Just wanted to say - rewatching this was invaluable to getting the build right on my board. I had a pedaltrain board and a ditto looper for my birthday earlier this year, and finally wanted to build something professional, tidy and great sounding. I had all the bits, but even down to getting the right velcro on the right bits, this video guided me through the process. You guys already know I take inspiration from everything you do, and the tones and soundscapes I'm able to create now in comparison to a few years back, are a lot to do with the show, and knowing how to approach effects. Thank you again.

  • @davecarpenter2517
    @davecarpenter2517 5 років тому +1

    I've now got a pretty cool board featuring classics like tubescreamer, ds1 and dyna comp etc.
    And most of it was put together after hearing advise from you guys.
    Thank you, priceless info

  • @stevecummins2776
    @stevecummins2776 5 років тому

    This is probably the most important video TPS has made to date. It probably contains a lots of information that the majority of viewers find basic and obvious, but at the end of the day this is the crossroads that every pedalboard player comes to at some point. If a player gets the fundamentals right, the rest becomes a lot easier. Well done guys. Good work!

  • @SethHancockBMX
    @SethHancockBMX 5 років тому +3

    Love this! Would love to see an in depth video on how to build your own high end, professional board!! with tips and tricks with certain pedals, midi and switching

  • @kiltymacbagpipe
    @kiltymacbagpipe 5 років тому +11

    JHS just published a video comparing Berhinger pedals to the original they are copying. Kind of timely. Berhinger is perhaps a good option for first pedals if cost is an issue as it is for many younger players, and some sound really good as JHS demonstrated.

  • @tonymccaldon
    @tonymccaldon 3 місяці тому +1

    i can't believe i'm only just discovering this show! you guys are fantastic...i'm gonna be skint!

  • @HiVizSmiley
    @HiVizSmiley 5 років тому +1

    Thank you guys so much for this. I bought an octafuzz a couple months ago because of you, and now I'll be doing a proper board now for the same reason. One of your best jams and videos indeed! Thank you again

  • @michaelarthurmusic307
    @michaelarthurmusic307 5 років тому +3

    Just ordered a Snouse Blackbox 2. Thanks guys!

  • @satch099
    @satch099 5 років тому +26

    That corner missing on Micks first velcro would mess with my mind everytime I got it out!!
    Great show as usual guys!

  • @MrDblStop
    @MrDblStop 5 років тому

    Did my first board (after decades playing) a few weeks ago thanks to you guys. It works well, a Harley Benton copy of a Pedaltrain for a tenner less, and H.B.'s Powerplant ISO-1. The board comes in a gig bag with a rocket on it! Very happy with the very low noise level and overall quality. And the rocket. Sorry it couldn't be GigRig gear Dan but it's a bit beyond my budget at the moment. And I've gone wet/dry. Guys, you are changing the world, for the better! :)

  • @tjnugent62
    @tjnugent62 5 років тому +2

    Very nice of you fellows to through some love to the beginners. Thank you.

  • @adadogod
    @adadogod 5 років тому +4

    That Tele continues to astound me Dan. Heads and tails your best sounding guitar on the show.

  • @southpaw335
    @southpaw335 5 років тому +4

    That was fun. Been there and done that many times over the last 30 years, and still it is fun to watch you guys and see how similar my thought process is to this.
    Dan the Snouse sounded awesome and you have me looking at a memory man now, oh dear..
    Mick i’m off to try my Tubescreamer before my Bluesbreaker for a change and now have to take another look at the foxgear
    As a Lefty, yes have certainly encountered the ‘right to left’ cable run issue.. these days i just use a right angle plug on the input side and loop it under the front of the pedaltrain and out the other side, i am sure there is a more expensive solution to this, but hey this works for me...

  • @TwinPawsFWWM
    @TwinPawsFWWM 5 років тому +1

    Couldn't be more correct about the pedal board removing the barrier to entry. I built my first board after having a child, as my window for playing became RADICALLY shorter. Could not afford 20 mins of setting up my mess of pedals. It has made a huge difference (and much thanks to TPS for all the inspiration and information).

  • @PRWilson88
    @PRWilson88 4 роки тому +1

    Great video, years ago when I first tried a board it was hell, flat surface and the size of board and switching options were shocking without huge amounts of spare cash. I think you guys have inspired me to create a sit on amp board.

  • @hukl3945
    @hukl3945 5 років тому +18

    Regarding alternative power supplies I can highly recommend the CIOKS products. Super low noise, build like a tank and flexible power output. The DC range is pure gold!

    • @mannishboy1
      @mannishboy1 5 років тому

      I just got a Cioks DC5 for my PT Nano. Haven't installed it yet.
      Seems pretty heavy... Do you think low-profile 3M Dual Lock will hold it?

    • @michael_caz_nyc
      @michael_caz_nyc 5 років тому +1

      @@mannishboy1 Yes. I just used the 250/250 Strength to Hold a Fulltone Wah ( built like a tank & super heavy ). The Dual Lock - " Holds the Pedals for Ransom "

    • @hukl3945
      @hukl3945 5 років тому +1

      @@mannishboy1 top mounted for sure, underneath: probably :) When in doubt: zip tie or screws

    • @andreweasombentley4703
      @andreweasombentley4703 5 років тому +1

      I use dual lock for my truetone supply and it works a treat. No concerns whatsoever about it falling off

    • @joshuaconstantine2810
      @joshuaconstantine2810 5 років тому +1

      @@mannishboy1 - I have a Cioks Adam for just a standard nano, I used dual lock to start with (underneath this is) which worked great but I found it was super close to the ground so ended up using screws, so might be worth checking your ground clearance before!

  • @jpgrowen
    @jpgrowen 5 років тому +3

    When you two play together it’s truly special. I found myself reaching for my guitar and playing along. If your goal was to inspire others to play more it certainly worked with me. One question. My black magic zen drive has a level and gain the seem to interact with each other differently than a normal drive pedal. For me to get the “right” sound I find the overall level being way above unity. I’ve mitigated this with a boost for when I don’t have the zen drive active. This leaves me feeling like I am tap dancing. What other ways are there to address the differences without making me adjust the levels on the pedal? Thanks for another great show.

  • @lucaserikadams
    @lucaserikadams 5 років тому +1

    I wish I had this video years ago when I was figuring out my first board. You two provide a real service here. "Don't stop believing....."

  • @jonathanpursch3516
    @jonathanpursch3516 5 років тому +2

    1st of all, I now need TPS to make a short space movie and play the soundtrack. Think action, romance, intrigue and laser fights against an evil enemy from the dreaded Metal Zone.
    2nd of all, what an awesome example at 1:03:00 of how Dan's products really do make a difference and contribute to the amazing sounds we hear every week. Great video guys.

  • @chipsterb4946
    @chipsterb4946 4 роки тому +5

    Whether it’s true or not, the guitar cord explanation for right hand inputs is perfect 😆

  • @Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson
    @Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson 5 років тому +8

    Shoutout to the Snouse Blackbox 2. My absolute favorite drive to date!

    • @mahatma_gandalf
      @mahatma_gandalf 5 років тому

      Ya! I've had one on my board for a couple of years, and it blows me away every time I use it. Mine came before the external switches were available, so it requires a degree of jiggery-pokery to make any adjustments. I do it gladly.

    • @joshmuz9018
      @joshmuz9018 4 роки тому

      Yeah man I was shocked by it, it’s better than my klon and old ts808 and all others I’ve tried, its speciality

  • @ginoames
    @ginoames 5 років тому +1

    I really enjoyed that you used both a home built board & a store bought board. I was a plywood warrior for years and built many a board......never with "room for another pedal" lol.
    Great vid fellas, well done as always!

  • @blackdogbite
    @blackdogbite Рік тому +1

    Dan and Mick......great show. Its also really good to see/hear you both play together. Doesn't happen often enough.

  • @mcnabb1975
    @mcnabb1975 4 роки тому +10

    One great trick is to use the pedalboard tape but DON'T take off the paper backing and glue the tape to the pedal. Instead, cut the small squares, poke a hole in the tape then use the pedal base screws through the holes. Then you don't have the glue stuck on an expensive pedal or have to worry about those rubber bottoms. Just poke a small hole, not one large enough that the scree head easily pulls through

  • @kevotheclone
    @kevotheclone 5 років тому +4

    Here's my tip... buy a Keeley D & M drive:
    1) two pedals in one
    2) switch the order of the Boost & Drive sides with a flick of a switch
    3) less patch cables
    4) less power cables
    5) smaller footprint than two standard-size pedals
    6) wide-range of great sounds
    7) if needed, flexible routing system using TRS cables (which kind of negates point #3 above, but if you need it it's available)

  • @clos87
    @clos87 Рік тому +1

    that last jam, and the tone Mick was getting from that mythos pedal... Just glorious.

  • @cnelsonmusic
    @cnelsonmusic 5 років тому

    I’ve had pedalboards for years and these pedalboard basics/pedalboard build videos are still by far my favorite videos!

  • @gonzalooliveraalves
    @gonzalooliveraalves 4 роки тому +5

    55:53 😂 You can tell Mick liked the Memory Man

  • @poncianoquidlat
    @poncianoquidlat 4 роки тому +3

    Oh i injoy watching specialy the jamming led nice jam keep it up rock n can never die👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏👏👏

  • @jasonmclevain9408
    @jasonmclevain9408 5 років тому +1

    So i use an altering pattern with velcro, hook on the switch side and loop on the knob end, and i never had a reason to think about it differently. Guys even in the simplest videos you teach me something. Thank you

  • @chrisraatz6672
    @chrisraatz6672 5 років тому +2

    setting up, trouble shooting, short demos & a jam. Bring it on! Excellent content.

  • @michael_caz_nyc
    @michael_caz_nyc 5 років тому +3

    I just want to say a Sincere & Heartfelt Thank You to T.P.S. as I just Finished my 1st ( high-end / pro-board ). The Knowledge I have gained from T.P.S. - helped tremendously. Im using the New Waggi 28" Pedalboard ( fantastic design ). Definitely allows me to practice and Play More with My Entire Setup being: Always ready-to-go.

  • @coreywinters2129
    @coreywinters2129 5 років тому +4

    I really wish you two would run separate rigs more often, the times you both get to play together has brought out some great jams, and helps to put more of the sounds you get into context.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  5 років тому +2

      Spirit of Danish Pete. :0)

    • @coreywinters2129
      @coreywinters2129 5 років тому

      That Pedal Show I rewatched that loop segment a couple of time and it was amazing, probably my most favorite playing y’all have done

  • @markuswehrle7
    @markuswehrle7 5 років тому +1

    After discovering your show a few months back, it quickly became clear that I needed to get rid of my old multi-effect, which has served me well on countless gigs for many years, and build my own pedalboard. I finished this project about 2 weeks ago, so this episode came a bit too late. I'm really happy that I managed it pretty well without the beginners guide ;-). And the most important thing of this whole story: the sound is so incredibly better that I want to play all day long!! Thank you guys!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  5 років тому

      Ah, I was reading this Marcus... Willing the last sentence to come. Congrats man, when you feel it there's no going back! Mick here

  • @AntonioBoavida
    @AntonioBoavida 3 роки тому

    Just made my first not-so-perfect wood pedalboard. This video and the vcpi one really helped me understand the basics of how all of this works. Probably couldn't have done this without them. Thank you for such amazing content!

  • @alanscharrer5255
    @alanscharrer5255 5 років тому +4

    Built 3 boards and after this tutorial, I will tear everything down and start over. Thanks for giving more reasons to avoid my actual work! Gents, is there any difference in the type of patch cables such as the gauge and the plug in connectors?

  • @taviswardlaw
    @taviswardlaw 5 років тому +6

    The other benefit to putting the hook side of velcro on the bottom of the pedal is that the hook side collects dust, pet hair, lint and other muck a lot more than the loop side. Having it on the bottom of the pedals keeps the board cleaner as a whole.

    • @hoboroadie
      @hoboroadie 5 років тому

      Exactly! Random visible lint pretty much ruins my tone. YMMV.

  • @lefthandluke8923
    @lefthandluke8923 5 років тому

    You guys are freaking hilarious, incredibly humble and (above all) so helpful. This is by far my fav. episode, among many others. Thanks so much!

  • @Photography-Niseko
    @Photography-Niseko 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks guys. I have watched lots of your videos but this is the first one i have watched the whole way through! I am in the process of setting up my first pedalboard and cant thank you both enough. Great playing as well. Excellent excellent excellent!

  • @yarmouk334
    @yarmouk334 5 років тому +11

    My first setup: Cry Baby Wah -> Little Big Muff -> Boss DD-3

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin 5 років тому +2

      The Tunguska Event
      Mine was: Cry Baby -> Boss OS-2
      -> Fuzz Face -> Boss DD-3
      I started getting really serious, when I added a uni-vibe, and a Bluesbreaker Clone.

    • @ragingchimera8021
      @ragingchimera8021 5 років тому +2

      Quality setup! Those are 3 staples.

    • @paulcowart3174
      @paulcowart3174 5 років тому +1

      All I used was a MXR Dist Plus into a Super Reverb when I first started

    • @ericportillo8277
      @ericportillo8277 5 років тому

      Nice

    • @yanceygamalielaguilarherna9401
      @yanceygamalielaguilarherna9401 4 роки тому

      How did you power the little big muff and the dd3?

  • @geoffnightingale9290
    @geoffnightingale9290 5 років тому +10

    I bet I am not the only person who has built pedalboards then have another tagged 'on the floor' because TPS 'made' me buy yet another one!

    • @conan218
      @conan218 5 років тому +2

      You are not alone, brother....there are support groups 😂😂😂

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin 5 років тому +2

      Don’t forget the space on top of your amp, for pedals that can go into an effects loop. 😄 Get a few more that way.

    • @Overworkt
      @Overworkt 5 років тому +3

      @@conan218 yeah but we're here, it's like going to your AA meeting and then all going down the pub immediately after 😅

    • @jayjayripoff
      @jayjayripoff 5 років тому +2

      I'm finding one more space on top of my amp too....
      This only started out with looking for a boost for solos... now look!! -_-
      instagram.com/p/BwM_Y1qB2Jl/?
      The missus thinks I'm having an affair ffs!!

    • @conan218
      @conan218 5 років тому +1

      @@Overworkt as long as you know you're not alone...that's all I'm saying...lmao

  • @jrafko
    @jrafko 5 років тому +1

    Thanks guys I needed this! I appreciate you doing this for the beginners/intermediate players.

  • @denniswijker7162
    @denniswijker7162 5 років тому

    WOW guys, this video could not have come at a more opportune moment for me, having just ordered the beginnings of my first pedal board. It should arrive any moment now, and this vid has given me pretty much all of the info I needed to be able to fully understand how to build it! Thanks so much

  • @lemartin93
    @lemartin93 5 років тому +193

    Watching this after spending 4 hours building my pedalboard.

  • @szczerzo
    @szczerzo 5 років тому +59

    When do you need pedalboard? Answer: when cables could be classified as antipersonnel booby trap.

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin 5 років тому +2

      SZCZERZO KŁY
      Or they nearly take out a band member, who just wanted to grab a beer, and got ensnared within the Guerrilla Warfare Booby Trap, that one calls there effects setup. 🤪

    • @guitarprepnplus1
      @guitarprepnplus1 5 років тому +1

      Or the wife hates the wire mess. 🎸🔫

  • @DavidDyte1969
    @DavidDyte1969 5 років тому +2

    My first pedalboard has evolved over time into a Pink Floyd board, and now has two power supplies, ten pedals, and a gorgeous QMX-10 to handle everything. The wiring isn't the MOST beautiful thing in the world, but I'm as proud as hell of it, and it sounds great.

  • @EnterJustice
    @EnterJustice 3 роки тому +2

    54:06
    HAL (dude with the Tele + Vox): tuner -> Jam Pedals Rattler (overdrive) -> Snouse Electric Company BlackBox Overdrive 2 (bluesbreaker clone) -> EHX Deluxe Memory Man T-1100 (delay) -> Mooer Trelicopter (tremelo)
    AXIS BOARD OF LOVE (dude with the Strat + Fender amp): Ibanez Tube Screamer (overdrive) -> Mythos Runestone (overdrive) -> Foxgear Echosex (delay) -> TC Electronic Ditto (looper)

  • @rasher009
    @rasher009 3 роки тому +3

    Great info. Thanks.
    Would you allow me to add something?
    In building my own pedalboard with a 10 output power supply, I found using a label-maker to identify each power lead (i.e. the name of the pedal it powered) at the power supply end was really helpful if a pedal died. Instead of chasing each power lead down, you can instantly see which power lead plug you need to check.
    Just a little thing, and a bit OCD, but worthwhile, especially in a gig situation.

  • @dannysnow46
    @dannysnow46 5 років тому +35

    Mxr power jacks drive me mad, such awkward placement on a tight board

  • @SirVicc
    @SirVicc 5 років тому +2

    Perfect timing! Have so many pedals and just bought my first pedalboard. A used Pedaltrain 3 with bag in almost perfect shape for 40 bucks CDN, which is probably like 5 British pounds. Gonna pay rapt attention.

  • @2Plus2isChicken2013
    @2Plus2isChicken2013 5 років тому

    This sort of video never gets old. Great sounds coming from both of these boards as well! For cleaning up cables underneath another option I've found is Velcro One Wrap. It can be cut to whatever length you need and sticks to itself. Wrap it around your cables and then whichever side of the wrap is on the outside, stick a strip of velcro of the opposite type on the bottom of the board and then the One Wrap will stick to that. I don't know if the bond is strong enough for heavy gigging but it works for me.

  • @1414matt1414
    @1414matt1414 5 років тому +19

    What are Dan's AC15 settings here? Sounds amazing!

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 5 років тому +1

      Right? I'm seriously considering flogging my Bassbreaker15 and getting an AC15. If I need the Marshally thing (which the BB does), I have my Laney Cub12r & 112 extension w/Vintage 30. But man, an AC15 is the ticket. There's a used AC15C1 w/Greenback going for $550AUD near to where I live.
      Decisions...

    • @jayjayripoff
      @jayjayripoff 5 років тому

      @@mattgilbert7347 that sounds like a cracking plan matey, love mine.
      Been playing the Marshall Origin recently, but my AC15c1 was the sound I'd been searching for for a long time...
      That and my RAT is what I've always had in my head, the Origin was because I wanted the vintage style Marshall lead tones, which its great for, and cuts through a mix woth another loud guitarist, but now I'm the only player thinking about just getting my sound back...

  • @kylerovagug2005
    @kylerovagug2005 5 років тому +3

    First board was 12 pedals on a keyboard drawer flipped upside down. The damn thing was so big I couldn't find a bag for it. Used to wrap it in a blanket to take it to gigs.

  • @mattisvural7866
    @mattisvural7866 3 роки тому +2

    54:06 !!! Can we just appreciate the harmony for af while!
    I had to replay that stuff for at least 5 times wow haha

  • @pttrent123
    @pttrent123 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you, appreciate the insights and suggestions! I am on the brink of doing the pedal thing. The music at the end was great!