What a horrible experience for a dealer to go through, did same with Real Truck in America, never again. Thank you, was hung up on need to buy an Oneida, problem solved. Cheers.
Just bought an Oneida Phoenix and had exactly the same problem (same cam same grub screw) - thanks to your video I was able to sort out the problem ( I used blue loctight on the grub screws in the hope that this will stop them coming loose again) - keep up the good work.
These were the best and simplest designed compound bows for years before the block and tackle bows were finally perfected in the 2000s. Oneida is the only bow I shoot and the only one I can repair in the field by myself!
Thank you just fitted my g string cables using you video only had bow a week power cable got damaged when cam slipped big bang at full draw. All checked now still waiting for oneida to respond I will not hold my breath!!!
I'm all for blasting it back apart and powder coating it green like the one Oneida gave you and your staff "stold". I always wanted one for nostalgic sake's, I like old unique things. A lady at the range has one that her father gave her, kind of neat. You sir squashed my want of owning one.
Ive had a Tomcat, Phantom, Strike Eagle, Aero Force, LFM, Tomcat x80 and a Kestrel, Ive called Oneida a hundred times, they ALWAYS helped me...Ive broken tons of shit...Ive gotten every part of these bows for free from them except the inboards/outboards, risers and power cables....plates, cams, timing cables, fasteners and modules...all free of charge shipping only, this guy adjusted his bow inappropriately...end of story...arrow trick is smart, I made a jig with a spacer and rodstock threaded at each end...
Whew... interesting video. Doesn't look all that hard to do... but no help from Oneida.. wow. I like those bows and might snag one some day.. but I'm in the USA so maybe customer service will be better here, for parts. Good video... I always enjoy your archery knowledge … and learn on every one I watch. Thumbs Up !
I had an Oneida Strike Eagle. It didn't blow up on me, but seemed unnecessarily complicated and finicky. Got a Pearson, that worked flawlessly for the next 20 years.
If you ever have to work on another Oneida use duct tape to hold your cables in place once you get them wrapped around the cams.Power cables should go on first, and I would bet that the condition of that bow was caused by one of the outboard limbs coming in contact with something upon the arrow being released.I felt for you working on that bow, been there many times.
I shot for the original Oneida back in the 80s when I was still shooting, hunting and competing in the Limited (fingers) classes. I Hunted with a Screaming Eagle and shot what the guys at Oneida called a "T-1000" - white riser, inboard and outboard limbs, full color Oneida graphics and chrome or polished idler wheels and timing cams. It's the only bow with which I ever shot a perfect score and did so several times. Loved the bow, shot it better than any of the dozens of other bows I've shot in 55 years, but diagnosing a problem on them was a major league headache sometimes...
It happened almost the same to my Strike Eagle when I had it new in the 90's. The string suddenly broke while it was in a full drawn. The modules shattered and I noticed the power cable had couple of strings broken. I called and they sent me a set of modules and cables for free. I did ordered a new FF string from them. I suspected the cause was the brass nock was too tight to the string and it might had pinched and weaken the string. It was in the late 90's and their customer service was great. I still have the bow.
I personally thought bow shops didn't sell Oneida's because once bought there's no need for the shop anymore. Most shop's here in kentucky are crap anyway, that's why I bought an Oneida.
Steven-- Great video...thanks for doing these. When I bought my Phoenix, I was expressly warned that shooting light arrows were akin to dry firing, which would lead to what happened to the bows you were showing. Do you know what the spec was on the arrows the archers owning the bows were shooting? Was this a valid warning, or pure BS? I pretty much only put the Easton Dangerous Game FMJ 250 through mine, for the record. I ask as you seem to be the most knowledgable individual on UA-cam about the Oneidas. Cheers!
I am just getting into Archery, I already bought my first target bow, I’m looking to get more bows for my family. Coincidentally I came to the revelation that I’m going to decide on the brand that I’m going to get the best customer service with! Guess what company it’s not gonna be?
if you do business with Chinese company, there is exactly same bow called Nitro from Junxing，I heard they even fix some problems. Hope you can do a review on it.
thanks for this video, this is very similar to my RPM nitro the rpm bow is Mutch easer to work on the limb pockets make the bow self-supporting . also the rpm web site has some very good how to videos . love my lever bow so smoooth
Mine did the same thing yesterday if yours was like mine it has a sharp edge on the cam right before it crosses a thur bolt that is flat I filed it smooth but that's where my cable started to break thanks for the video God bless you an take care
Steven. I appreciate all your videos. You seem to really like this bow in your videos. I am interested mainly in target shooting fingers. I am in the US, but still hear issues with company service & support. Can you still recommend based on this experience? Even with Bass Pro owning them now (not sure if thats good or bad), I am concerned about what happens if something goes wrong. Will there be parts in the future, etc.
There are companies who make the parts if you have a problem. But it is best to ask the shop where you buy it from if you have a problem how it will be fixed. If you like fixing stuff it is easy just time consuming.
While i still want an Oneida. i can see the shitty customer service is a massive problem. BUT. it seems like you can order the strings and such on their website. Maybe they just got tired of dealing with you? Causs it looks like they have started to sell the bows themselvs now.
Oneida bows started in 1982 in New York. They were junk then and have always been junk! I knew quite a few people over the years who’ve been dissatisfied with those bows they ALWAYS fall apart.
What happen is, your timing set screw is how you set the draw , you loosen it draw then other person tightens it. Taht is what the y have done and didnt get it tighten back up.
I want to replace the silver cables on my Phoenix and kestrel aswell but with black, what are the cables called so I order the right ones? Is it the power and yolk cables you replaced? The timing cable comes black stock
@@robbiemiller2334 mostly fit and finish stuff that I wouldn't expect on a $1200 bow, normally the actual mechanical issues are user error. Since Morris bought the company things have been going back uphill, it's looking good again but not as good as the early ones yet.
@@robbiemiller2334 that's just my limited experience though, I've only handled 6 of the newer ones. Everyone used to use them back when I started bowhunting in PA though, they were the coolest bows ever back then lol
Agreed. Really admire your patience (and hearing your story with Oneida). (I was hoping to ask you this in person, but missed my window this visit to Adelaide..) Just wondering, have you had anything to do with RPM? I like the idea of the lever action bows, but after this (and another) review, I can't conscience buying Oneida (nor am I likely to be able to). I've got an RPM Nitro XL on my Wishlist on their website, but I was wondering if you had any thoughts on it? It seems heavy at 9lb, but other than that, I've only seen good reviews..
Customer returns obviously a very badly abused bow, company ignores your questions. You’re taking it in both ends! If he brings the new bow back tell him where he can stick it.
Looks a very complicated bow.... Equals more things to go wrong. Well done on the build. Great video Can you speed test a 2018 Stinger. Also have you had any riser failures on the new style riser?
i doesnt matter what state or what weapon, its not entirely a joke when we americans say everybody has a gun, like 95% of the population has a weapon, most are guns
Medjay The dealer I bought mine from said I needed heavy 250 spine arrows--along the lines of 15-17 grains/inch. He warned anything less is like dry firing the bow, as not enough energy is transmitted to the arrow. Now I don't know if that's BS, but Easton Dangerous Game FMJs are all I put through mine and I haven't had an issue with my Phoenix (yet). Tended to believe him as he didn't carry the arrows, but pointed me to someone that did. Again, I can't tell you if it was BS, but damn, it throws those heavy arrows so well...
I can tell you why. JP Morris took over and wrecked a Small American owned company were customer service meant something and quality was a standard. Now it's all about putting that dollar in his pocket.
That's extremely poor customer service for a company selling bows for 2 grand. To not even reply back to you. I wouldn't care if you're on Mars. I'm gonna do my damndest to make it right.
Oneida is terrible customer service. If you have one and have questions on servicing or parts, join LEVER LOVERS on Facebook. You have an army of guys willing to help and way more knowledgeable than any Oneida rep.
What a horrible experience for a dealer to go through, did same with Real Truck in America, never again. Thank you, was hung up on need to buy an Oneida, problem solved. Cheers.
This is old by now but thank you so much for making this! Knowing the inner workings of my bow is so important and this build teaches so much.
Just bought an Oneida Phoenix and had exactly the same problem (same cam same grub screw) - thanks to your video I was able to sort out the problem ( I used blue loctight on the grub screws in the hope that this will stop them coming loose again) - keep up the good work.
Thanks, because of you and this video, I can now take my Oneida apart and set it up again like a pro. 😀😀😀😀😀
These were the best and simplest designed compound bows for years before the block and tackle bows were finally perfected in the 2000s.
Oneida is the only bow I shoot and the only one I can repair in the field by myself!
Steven, you seem like you're a good guy. If I lived in Australia I'd buy bows from you. Thanks for the video all be it 2 years later.
Thank you just fitted my g string cables using you video only had bow a week power cable got damaged when cam slipped big bang at full draw. All checked now still waiting for oneida to respond I will not hold my breath!!!
I'm all for blasting it back apart and powder coating it green like the one Oneida gave you and your staff "stold". I always wanted one for nostalgic sake's, I like old unique things. A lady at the range has one that her father gave her, kind of neat. You sir squashed my want of owning one.
Ive had a Tomcat, Phantom, Strike Eagle, Aero Force, LFM, Tomcat x80 and a Kestrel, Ive called Oneida a hundred times, they ALWAYS helped me...Ive broken tons of shit...Ive gotten every part of these bows for free from them except the inboards/outboards, risers and power cables....plates, cams, timing cables, fasteners and modules...all free of charge shipping only, this guy adjusted his bow inappropriately...end of story...arrow trick is smart, I made a jig with a spacer and rodstock threaded at each end...
I have to say your the most helpful guy with all things archery thanks a lot Steven you are muchly appreciated. Too bad your not in Nsw
Whew... interesting video. Doesn't look all that hard to do... but no help from Oneida.. wow. I like those bows and might snag one some day.. but I'm in the USA so maybe customer service will be better here, for parts. Good video... I always enjoy your archery knowledge … and learn on every one I watch. Thumbs Up !
Steven in the USA a dealer wouldn't give the customer a new bow. They be poop up the creek with out a paddle.
I heard the Oneida head technician growl when you took those cam's off lol
I think a disclaimer to not to use light arrows would have solved this issue. Heavy arrows are pretty much required for these bows.
Your a very patient man Steve I personally would have gotten very frustrated
I had an Oneida Strike Eagle. It didn't blow up on me, but seemed unnecessarily complicated and finicky. Got a Pearson, that worked flawlessly for the next 20 years.
Great video!
I think I won't buy an Oneida.
I was doing my research on what bow I wanted to buy next.
Thank you for the information!
If you ever have to work on another Oneida use duct tape to hold your cables in place once you get them wrapped around the cams.Power cables should go on first, and I would bet that the condition of that bow was caused by one of the outboard limbs coming in contact with something upon the arrow being released.I felt for you working on that bow, been there many times.
I shot for the original Oneida back in the 80s when I was still shooting, hunting and competing in the Limited (fingers) classes. I Hunted with a Screaming Eagle and shot what the guys at Oneida called a "T-1000" - white riser, inboard and outboard limbs, full color Oneida graphics and chrome or polished idler wheels and timing cams. It's the only bow with which I ever shot a perfect score and did so several times. Loved the bow, shot it better than any of the dozens of other bows I've shot in 55 years, but diagnosing a problem on them was a major league headache sometimes...
It's a couple years old, but wondering if you ever got satisfaction from Oneida?
It happened almost the same to my Strike Eagle when I had it new in the 90's. The string suddenly broke while it was in a full drawn. The modules shattered and I noticed the power cable had couple of strings broken. I called and they sent me a set of modules and cables for free. I did ordered a new FF string from them. I suspected the cause was the brass nock was too tight to the string and it might had pinched and weaken the string. It was in the late 90's and their customer service was great. I still have the bow.
Limbs in reverse lolololol!!! Just have fun!! I like your work!!
Stay safe...
I personally thought bow shops didn't sell Oneida's because once bought there's no need for the shop anymore. Most shop's here in kentucky are crap anyway, that's why I bought an Oneida.
Steven--
Great video...thanks for doing these. When I bought my Phoenix, I was expressly warned that shooting light arrows were akin to dry firing, which would lead to what happened to the bows you were showing. Do you know what the spec was on the arrows the archers owning the bows were shooting? Was this a valid warning, or pure BS? I pretty much only put the Easton Dangerous Game FMJ 250 through mine, for the record. I ask as you seem to be the most knowledgable individual on UA-cam about the Oneidas.
Cheers!
If you don't mind, I think I'll stick with a normal take down recurve.
Thanks, Steven.
I am just getting into Archery, I already bought my first target bow, I’m looking to get more bows for my family. Coincidentally I came to the revelation that I’m going to decide on the brand that I’m going to get the best customer service with! Guess what company it’s not gonna be?
Sad. I was thinking of buying this bow here in Australia but if customer service is that bad, I think I will look elsewhere
if you do business with Chinese company, there is exactly same bow called Nitro from Junxing，I heard they even fix some problems. Hope you can do a review on it.
so many "sigh"
i can feel your harshness...
just saw this vid, was wondering why no stores in Australia sell oneida's anymore... here's my answer.
thanks for this video, this is very similar to my RPM nitro the rpm bow is Mutch easer to work on the limb pockets make the bow self-supporting . also the rpm web site has some very good how to videos . love my lever bow so smoooth
I love your videos.
This was painful. Get a rubber mat minimum.
Awesome video.. I have an old screaming eagle that need to change the cables.. any advice?? I really can use some help..
I need cables too?? Can u help.. I really miss my bow its been like 5 since I last shot it
Dear friend thanks for your video come to see my hand crafted Oneida Phoenix riser!
Mine did the same thing yesterday if yours was like mine it has a sharp edge on the cam right before it crosses a thur bolt that is flat I filed it smooth but that's where my cable started to break thanks for the video God bless you an take care
Steven. I appreciate all your videos. You seem to really like this bow in your videos. I am interested mainly in target shooting fingers. I am in the US, but still hear issues with company service & support. Can you still recommend based on this experience? Even with Bass Pro owning them now (not sure if thats good or bad), I am concerned about what happens if something goes wrong. Will there be parts in the future, etc.
There are companies who make the parts if you have a problem. But it is best to ask the shop where you buy it from if you have a problem how it will be fixed. If you like fixing stuff it is easy just time consuming.
I love your vids!!! I'm very interested in shooting a onieda bow, but no one around where I live sells them.
Don’t do it, they’re junk. They’re not reliable enough to warrant the price. They’ve been falling apart since 1982.
@@danielrivers1975 I bought a Mathews V3 31 instead lol
Would it have been worth using sticky tape to hold those cables in the holes while you string it up?
Want to see a video of you making the string.
While i still want an Oneida. i can see the shitty customer service is a massive problem.
BUT. it seems like you can order the strings and such on their website. Maybe they just got tired of dealing with you? Causs it looks like they have started to sell the bows themselvs now.
i have an oneida eagle from the 73, shot it once 8 years ago and its been in my shed ever since. I was given the bow and would never buy one
From 73? What model. I knew they were around in the 80s but didnt think they were around in the early 70s.
Oneida bows started in 1982 in New York. They were junk then and have always been junk! I knew quite a few people over the years who’ve been dissatisfied with those bows they ALWAYS fall apart.
What happen is, your timing set screw is how you set the draw , you loosen it draw then other person tightens it. Taht is what the y have done and didnt get it tighten back up.
If they're okay to sell you a bow they should be prepared to repair it or at least provide good service.
You should stock G-Rex from g string. They are making lever bow like Oneida now and it's called G-Rex.
I want to replace the silver cables on my Phoenix and kestrel aswell but with black, what are the cables called so I order the right ones? Is it the power and yolk cables you replaced? The timing cable comes black stock
100% sure they smacked the outboard limbs in something when they fired the bow!!!
That's interesting, both my Oneidas are 20 years old and work just fine.
The old ones were really nice, the new ones seem to fall hard when it comes to quality control
@@BeetleBuns oh really? Seem too expensive to run into that problem
@@robbiemiller2334 mostly fit and finish stuff that I wouldn't expect on a $1200 bow, normally the actual mechanical issues are user error. Since Morris bought the company things have been going back uphill, it's looking good again but not as good as the early ones yet.
@@BeetleBuns interesting
@@robbiemiller2334 that's just my limited experience though, I've only handled 6 of the newer ones. Everyone used to use them back when I started bowhunting in PA though, they were the coolest bows ever back then lol
Shooting Oneidas for 35 years...never seen that. Of course I also don't Dry Fire mine.
That's a shame that they didn't answer you. They have no faith in what they do.
Agreed. Really admire your patience (and hearing your story with Oneida). (I was hoping to ask you this in person, but missed my window this visit to Adelaide..) Just wondering, have you had anything to do with RPM? I like the idea of the lever action bows, but after this (and another) review, I can't conscience buying Oneida (nor am I likely to be able to). I've got an RPM Nitro XL on my Wishlist on their website, but I was wondering if you had any thoughts on it? It seems heavy at 9lb, but other than that, I've only seen good reviews..
Fit and finish on RPM's are mediocre, Chinese sourced parts. I'd buy a Oneida or G-Rex before RPM.
i have a nitro . really smooth and lots cheaper than the oneida the nitro has a great website with heaps of how to videos
Do you still have this bow for sale?
How did you string it up without a previous string?
Steven you should keep them souvenir!!!!!!!!!!!
Peel the sticker off and restick it on the lower limb
Exactly! They are symmetrical.
Customer returns obviously a very badly abused bow, company ignores your questions. You’re taking it in both ends!
If he brings the new bow back tell him where he can stick it.
Love watching a bow build where you use a hammer. When all else fails BELT IT !!!
Big Tony I cringed when he went full send with a carpenter hammer, it’s pretty funny tho.
Looks a very complicated bow.... Equals more things to go wrong.
Well done on the build.
Great video
Can you speed test a 2018 Stinger.
Also have you had any riser failures on the new style riser?
Oneida is the only bow I shoot and the only one I can repair in the field by myself!
i doesnt matter what state or what weapon, its not entirely a joke when we americans say everybody has a gun, like 95% of the population has a weapon, most are guns
Hello from portugal
String broke or dry fired bow
Can you tell me what arrows are needed for this bow?
Medjay The dealer I bought mine from said I needed heavy 250 spine arrows--along the lines of 15-17 grains/inch. He warned anything less is like dry firing the bow, as not enough energy is transmitted to the arrow. Now I don't know if that's BS, but Easton Dangerous Game FMJs are all I put through mine and I haven't had an issue with my Phoenix (yet).
Tended to believe him as he didn't carry the arrows, but pointed me to someone that did. Again, I can't tell you if it was BS, but damn, it throws those heavy arrows so well...
hehehe Here in America criminals don't steal guns. They wear 3 piece suits and hire security firms that provide armed men.:)
Looks like working on a bike, lol. I even have the same allen wrench tool from a bike store
Merlin Archery bought Oneida, yeah?
I bet he backed the limb screws out too far, then shot it with the limb out of the saddle. Bet you because onideas don't just break.
Can I have it
I can tell you why. JP Morris took over and wrecked a Small American owned company were customer service meant something and quality was a standard. Now it's all about putting that dollar in his pocket.
I'll trade you a gizzly bear 61lb bow.
Well done Fella, But it was a Pain to my eyes watching this ?? even the Allen Keys ?? Buy a Proper set mate
I just bought a Phoenix. Maybe I shouldn’t have.
That's extremely poor customer service for a company selling bows for 2 grand. To not even reply back to you. I wouldn't care if you're on Mars. I'm gonna do my damndest to make it right.
Oneida is terrible customer service. If you have one and have questions on servicing or parts, join LEVER LOVERS on Facebook. You have an army of guys willing to help and way more knowledgeable than any Oneida rep.
If you cant get limbs on the correct ends you shouldnt be working on them. This was cringe worthy.
X Factor Outdoors real archers don't say "cringe worthy"
Lol whatever you say.