Fox Shock Air Sleeve Maintenance
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- Fox recommends doing air sleeve maintenance on their mountain bike rear shocks every 30 hours of riding. This video will show how to do this simply and quickly.
Several people have asked me in my bike cleaning video if the shock needs to be lubed. Fox shocks do not need to be lubed when cleaning your bike; you only need to wipe dirt and dust from the shaft and wiper seal. The periodic air sleeve maintenance is what replenishes the lube inside the shock - Спорт
Great video! Your videos are very clear and informative. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Thanks for the video! Hope you could have a video for air pressures and adjustments as well.
Another awesome video. Aways enjoy your videos.
Excellent instructional routine
Fantastic! I am searching now. I have Talas so it seems I am sorted. Thank you very much.
Great video as always..
@BOBCAT2001ify, if the wheel is out of true then a mechanic can tighten the spokes in a specific and precise manner to bring it back into true. If the rim has been actually bent (usually in a crash) then it needs to be replaced.
@mikelo303, I did a service video on the Talas. I'm also going to do one on a plain F100 in a month or two.
Reuben, yes, this is the same service you'd do on the Fox shock on your 2013 Trance X1 29er.
Just 2-3ml? I thought there would be more and it makes me slightly worried since there is always a thin layer of oil on the outer part on the Fox Nude CTD. I have roughtly 20 hours on the bike now and it's starting to make a noise which I can only hear when I'm standing still, there is still a thin layer of oil on the outer part. Better safe than sorry is what I'm thinking, what do you think Clint? Time to put in some more? I cant seem to find any info in the manual which is odd. It just says that in order to keep my 5 year warranty I have to have it serviced by the bike shop once a year.
Good morning, you can do a maintenance of the Shox vivid Air R2C 2012, because mine is defective, and I can not fix it. Would you also like to know if I can replace nitrogen with normal Air Pump? Thank you. it would also have to show this maintenance in the IFP. Or I could do the maintenance of some Shox that had these two compartments, the Air is the oil, so I can build up the courage and be able to do maintenance on mine, because in my city it does not do maintenance and I would have to send the Shox to a city that is more than 1000 kilometers from mine. Thanks. I'm form Brasil.
Hi will this be the same as the shock on my trance x1 29er 2013, thanks and keep the great vids coming
thank you very much!!!!
Thanks - great video. Nice to see it demonstrated on a Maestro setup - I've never serviced the rear suspension on my Trance (18 months old) apart from occasional lube inside the shaft seal, so need to do something about it right away !
Didn't realise it was this easy compared to forks.
One question though - when I've serviced forks, I've stripped the rebound and compression chambers/valves at the same time, as they need lube renewal too. Is this not necessary for an RP23 ?
That's not needed for the routine air sleeve maintenance. But I do recommend sending your shock to Fox annually for what they call "Suspension Fluid Service".
Bom dia, you poderia fazer a manutenção do Shox vivid Air R2C 2012, pois o meu está com defeito, e não consigo consertar. Gostaria de saber também se posso substituir o nitrogênio por Air normal de bomba? Thanks. Mas também teria que ser feita a manutenção desse cilindro pequeno também, mostrando o passo a passo. TKS
I have one question about bikes since u see. To know a lot about them but I want to know if you know how to make a warped wheel unwarped? Just wanted to know because I know some people with warped tires and they don't know how to fix it so any feed back if u know how to make it unwarped would be good thanks
Im remove spacer volume air, what impact in shock ?
Do I have to do this? Cause I don't want to take apart my bike ):
Clint, for your newer DPS shocks- do you find that your stanchions have some float fluid on them after a ride? When 30 hrs comes around, the shock begins to run dry which I have been using as an indicator as time to add more float fluid. What are your thoughts on this?
I usually have quite a bit of float fluid on the stanchion the first few rides after I do the air sleeve maintenance. Just wipe it off with rubbing alcohol on a paper towel.
why not remove the iner shrader valve and reoiling??
stafan, use about 90 psi (6.2 bar)
Clint, apologies if you've already covered this elsewhere. I had a look but you've got hella videos.
How do I remove the chainstay pivot bearings from a 2014 Trance? The connection holding the bottom of the Fox Float in place looks very similar, which is why I'm watching this video. Do I remove the rear triangle mounting bolts with allen keys like you did with the rear shock? I've tried pretty hard but the bottom bolt ain't budging and I don't wanna force anything. Total noob here when it comes to Trance maintenance.
It should just be an Allen wrench. If I recall correctly there around 15 N meters so it shouldn’t be crazy tight unless it’s seized up. If you have to put too much force on it my recommendation would be to take it to the bike shop. If something breaks then they usually cover it with giant and don’t charge you for it.
@@ClintGibbs Thanks for the response. UA-cam didn't give me the notification so just saw it now.
There have been good and bad developments since I asked. The chainstay pivot bolt has a nut with an allen bolt through it, and both are on the non-drive side, I assume to allow removal without removing the crank, but I'd already removed the crank anyway. I got the nut off. You're right, it wasn't that tight. I just hadn't figured on using a spanner and an allen key on the same side at the same time. Now with the nut off I can see the bearing with the allen bolt through it. But I can't get the bolt out. Tried turning it both directions but it doesn't seem to screw out. Tried tapping it with a rubber mallet but it ain't budging 🤷♂️
Anyway, that was the good part. The bad part is that I tried removing the rear shock to relieve pressure on the rear triangle in case that was making the pivot bolt difficult to remove. As I unscrewed the top bolt that holds the shock in place, my hand brushed against the ride selector of the shock. It popped right out and a load of orange oil spewed out behind it. I think I've ruined my shock 🙈. Kicking myself. Gonna send it to Fox and see if it can be saved. Idiot.
Rocknroll I highly doubt you’ve ruined your shock. It’s probably time for maintenance anyway. It’s just a matter of changing the oil and float fluid and putting it back together. I’m sure Fox will set you up.
@@ClintGibbs Hope you're right. Will take it to my LBS this afternoon. Cheers 👍
what presure in my shox for 90 kg plese !!!!!
sorry for my english!.....
Any ideas about my problem? I just make my first maintenance fox float rp2, it was literally dry, I loaded 5 ml of fox fluid, but now it moves too easily, from a 30 cm drop travels 80-90%. I has no volume reducer, but before my maintenance it was ok :( Did I just ruined it?
+trialboj is it holding air? Did you go through the process again of setting sag? Since you now have the right amount of float fluid in there you may need to reset your sag air pressure.
Well, of course I tried this at the basic 160psi, where the sag is ok 25%, but now I'M at 210psi, with 10% sag, and still travels 80% from a kerb drop :( Probably I have to buy some volume spacer, but this is an old shock, and those shitty little plastics costs nearly half of the value of my shock.
Great video. Noe fork please :)
Ok thanks
no!
in side. on the intetnal piston holding the thin disk
I just bought a float x ctd and I cant seem to get the sag set to what I want even though I am nearly at max psi. But it doesn't seem to be leaking. There is also a loud squeak when the shock takes harder hits while riding. Would doing this maintenance and replacing the seals solve this issue?
Is the air pressure inside the shock holding?
Clint Gibbs I believe so. I pump it up to about 275 and test it right after and its always the same. According to the guy I got it from, it only has about 30 hours on it.
TLATOAAP What bike are you using this on? Unless it's one with a high leverage ratio 275 should be plenty of pressure to obtain the right amount of sag. I use about 140 psi on my Giant Trance and I weigh about 150 with all my gear on.
My air can shell just keeps spinning and I can’t get it off... I squeeze the can as hard as I can and I’m using strap wrench. Any ideas???
Once the threads release you have to pull it down pretty hard for the negative air to release.
Clint Gibbs it doesn’t even seem as though the threads are engaged or that it is unscrewing at all.
diggumvt04 You may have to send it off to Fox to be repaired, which is something you really should do once every year or two anyway. They get inside and do maintenance that you normally would not do at home.
Clint Gibbs thanks Clint! I enjoy the channel keep it up
Very nice, but… ;) It’s recommended (by Fox) to put 2 cc Float Fluid into the negative chamber and 2 cc in the positive chamber. Below and above the seal. The little pillow pack with 5 cc will be enough. You will have about 1 cc for the seals (like Clint showed), 2 cc for the lower and 2cc for the upper chamber. You don’t have to buy the 235 ml, but it is cheaper than buying a 5cc Pillow every time you do this.
Just like Clint I don’t replace the Seals every time and Fox recommends this service every 8 h for rain and mud. That’s a little overdoing to me. :D
Some older Dampers may have a matter with pressure in the negative chamber (lower chamber). When letting out the air the damper will retract very noticeable. In that case you have to be careful not to hurt yourself and not to damage the Damper when screwing Chamber (housing) off. Really use a rag to tightly hold/grab it, like Clint showed it at 3:40. In that case I would replace the seals and rings, even if they look okay.
Oh yeah: Hold the Body almost horizontally and not vertically when filling in the 2 cc for the negative chamber, and keep it that way until you slided it back on again. If you don’t do so the Float Fluid will drip out.
There is oring supporting a thin disk on the inner piston.
what is the disc for ?
What happen if the oring broke down. is it important? and i should take it to the shop, or can i ride and fix it next time?
O-ring on the shaft is just to check the sag for setup. Is that what you're referring to?
No!
Oring inside on the inner piston. -10mm diameter. Holding the disk in place...
That's going to be what holds Float Fluid inside of the shock body. If it breaks down the fluid will leak out. So yes, it's important. It comes in the rebuild kit.
We do not understand each other.
Look at the video. When shock id open. You hold in your hand the inner part. It has piston 10mm dimiter. At the top covering the pumping valve. There is disk.
There is oring holding it in place. These oring has bean brocken.
+עפר דודו If ANYTHING is damaged the absolutely have it repaired or replaced. Continuing could cause more extensive damage to the shock.
Ou então poderia fazer a manutenção de algum Shox que tivesse esses dois compartimentos, o do Air é o do oil, para eu criar coragem e poder fazer a manutenção no meu, pois na minha cidade não faz a manutenção e eu teria que enviar o Shox para uma cidade que fica há mais de 1000 kilometros da minha. Thanks
No hablo español y UA-cam no me permite copiar y pegar el texto en Google translate, así que no entiendo tus comentarios. Si puede traducirlos al inglés antes de publicarlos, podría responder.
Good morning, you can do a maintenance of the Shox vivid Air R2C 2012, because mine is defective, and I can not fix it. Would you also like to know if I can replace nitrogen with normal Air Pump? Thank you. it would also have to show this maintenance in the IFP. Or I could do the maintenance of some Shox that had these two compartments, the Air is the oil, so I can build up the courage and be able to do maintenance on mine, because in my city it does not do maintenance and I would have to send the Shox to a city that is more than 1000 kilometers from mine. Thanks. I'm from brasil.
To charge the cartridge you would have to send it back to Fox, or a specialty repair shop. That's typically not a home repair.
Do you need to grease anything? Like the screws or pivots.
It is always a good idea to put a dab of grease on bolts when reinstalling them.
I bought a trance a month ago and will be replacing the rear shock. So the only part I need to grease back up are the bolts and
cranks.
Thanks!
As far as lubing the pivots, that is not a part of regular airsleeve maintenance but it would be a good idea to do so depending on the suspension design. Each manufacturer has different methods of lubing pivots. Some use grease in grease ports with bushings whereas some use bearings. So it's really going to depend on the type of bike. I typically do not lube my pivots when I do Air sleeve maintenance because it uses bearings and I just clean them a bit. I may spray some gt85 in them from time to time .
You'll love the Trance. 27.5?
First full suspension! Got the trance 2. I'm amazed on how easy it is now to go through roots without braking. The value for the price of Giant is just amazing, but if theres something that I'll be replacing in my bike it would be 32T front, 45mm stem and a different seatpost. I'm only 5'5 but I ride medium, it fits me just that I feel that the stem is extremely long. I ride uphill without ever switching out form the 38T thats why I wan't to convert to 1x10 on that, and the seat post for some reason goes up and down. I tightened it already but it still does it.
EDIT: Its my first time disassembling it and changing my rear shock to a RP23 kashima(200x57). Got it from a friend so I was wondering if I need to re grease anything one I disassemble it or I could just install it without worrying about anything.
Guy:u should do this once every 2-3 weeks.
Me after riding for months and never done this.
Pode me ajudar?
dont use alcohol for clean the shock it can take off the paint in the shock barrel also if you have the bike not very clean while you are installing the shock it can get little rocks or sand inside the shock and it will kill all the parts so is better to screw the shock barrel before installing the shock,also you can spray a mtb silicone to prevent dust and keep the dust wipers healthy.
Fox recommends alcohol to clean. It works very well and does not remove paint or clear coats.
thats true fox says that i forgot about it :B
No worries
@@carlomagnotm for the dust and dirt part I agree...