Just like villifying the tobacco companies while expecting co tinyed sales to generate tax revenue, 'evil oil' is villified while being expected to continue to get the raw petroleum needed for all 'green' tech. No, Sam, the oil companies didn't 'keep green tech down,' it failed repeatedly because it's a group of non-viable machines. The only thing making it look viable NOW, is the unsustainable amount of subsidy bring thrown at it. ALL of it. As soon as the subsidy ends, so do the golf carts and pinwheels and smoke and mirrors solar. California is AWASH in dead pinwheel and solar parks. That is ALL the proof you need. But the same has happened in Spain and Puerto Rico and everywhere else this nonsense has been tried.
Fuel industry, tobacco industry, pharmaceutical industry, defence industry, pesticides industry, they all show the same preservation behaviour when threatened.
well the woke made it we can not fly normal or smoke and drink and that is what you get if left is in control your freedom will be gone they do not care about history they only care about them self smoking in your own car they like to see as a crime but a muslim killing a person is free in a few days. the idiots.
The oil tycoons, the Koch brothers, have been the puppet masters of the Republican Party since the Reagan administration. They’ve spent hundreds of millions of dollars denying climate change, renewable energy, government regulations, public schools, and public roads just to name a few. They are the ones pushing the libertarian movement so that they can make more profits at the expense of every human being
Horrendous! I just spent the weekend in Stuttgart, the birthplace of the internal combustion engine. Lots of EV's around but sooo many big, loud, stinky muscle cars as well. My lungs today are suffering!
Hi Sam, I have been watching your videos for about 3 years and this is the first time I have commented, a while back you commented on how good Chevy Bolts were, I took your advice and now I have A 2023 Bolt, and I love it thank you very much.
this is almost exactly like it all republicans did was fight against it for years the American people have been lied to for decades. if things don't change we will be a third world country because every other country will pass us up in clean cheap energy
I live in the state of Florida in the USA. I have had an EV for three years. I charge it at home as charging stations are few and hard to use. The US government offered 200 million dollars to build charging stations, but our governor turned down the offer. This is in spite of the fact that Florida is a tourist destination state. Our best hope is that motels will offer chargers.
I live in Sweden and we have 8 different operators including Tesla competing for charger space. New chargers are popping up all the time and the only time it is hard to get a DC charger is on day before Christmas, Easter, Midsummer when everyone is traveling at the same time.
If the global temperature rise gets to 4 degrees C, which is becoming even more likely, much of Florida is toast. Sea level rise will drown large areas and the aquifers will be tainted by sea water incursion. The Florida administration is a classic case of fiddling while Rome burns and thinking that they can overcome nature through denial. Appalling.
@@minamikhaeil9314 Here in the USA we have a term, it is called: "Comparing Apples and Oranges", Egypt is different from the USA. I took a Google Maps look at Cairo, which contains a quarter of Egypt's population. I looked at "KFC (Gameat Al Dowal St.)" and that intersection was full of cars. I noticed that a vast amount of housing were multi-unit buildings. It is great that you ride a donkey but EV buses in Cairo would be a good thing. Also, EV bikes, scooters, motorcycles and trikes are a growing segment, especially in Asia.
How is this possible a surprise, it goes back even further and can be traced back to 1910 when Henery Tord was seeking funding for his new proposal of "mass production" Many dont realize it but the T Ford was originally planned to be an EV to the point that Henery spent two years working with Ederson on improving battery chemistry but when it came to the crunch the only people prepared to invest in his new ideas were oil interests and their money came with conditions. Fast forward 70 years and GM built the EV1 a basic but successful EV for it's time and a response to the proposed Californian emission laws. The production was shut down at the demand of their major shareholder of the time Texico who then went on to lobby to have the emission laws thrown out. GM must be looking over their shoulder now at an opportunity lost .
I think the issue of weight and the safety of such a large pack of lead-acid batteries to get decent range was a bit of concern to Henry Ford. And charging the battery was going to be an issue given nascent stage of electrical grid networks across the USA in the early 1910's.
lithium batteries are barely energy dense enough to meet the current needs for a lot of people, the reason the cars ended up being ICE was because it was the only viable alternative, as iCE engine development progressed they became cheaper and better, lead acid batteries were never going to be able to compete with the energy density of petrol. Lithium batteries started being talked about in the fifties but werent commercially available until the late 70s, lithium-ion came along in 1991 and until solid state batteries come, there probably wont be any significant advances.
@@Sacto1654 Early EV batteries were nickel-iron (had to look that up). Relatively low discharge rates by modern standards. But they can last 100 years with maintenance.
@@isaac827 Wrong. The reason that cars switched to ICE was money. When Henery Ford went looking for investment into his madcap idea of mass production the only investment he could find was oil money which came with conditions. What made them a success was the price, he reduced the average price of a car from $1300 to $350. In fact the average ICE car at that time had a range of about 100 miles, had to be hand started, was noisy, oily and outside of the cities very hard to refuel. Ev's of the time were known as the ladies car as you got in, pressed a button and moved. They were quiet, clean, had a range of about 100 miles and could be easily recharged in the cities with public charging available.
@@Sacto1654 Once again wrong. in fact prior to 1910 90% of cars built were electric and if you think the grid was not up to if, there was no petrol distribution at all. You had to buy your "motor spirit" in half gallon glass jars from your chemist. ICE cars were noisy, oily, had to be crank started and had a range of about 100 miles on average. They required constant maintains and were also not very reliable. EV's on the other hand started at the press of a button, were quiet, clean and reliable and they had a range of about 100 miles on average. What changed was mass production which bought the cost of a car from $1300 to $350 and EV's which were hand built could not compete on price nor could they afford to tool up for mass production. Ironically the same thing is happening today with Ford and GM struggling to convert to EV profitably for the same reasons.
There are virtually *no* "free markets". We have monopolies or cartels in virtually *all* sectors. All these so-called free-marketeers never say *anything* about this because so many of them are on the take from these same interests.
You dont realize how supported the EV market is? Tesla was propped up by government subsidies and government mandated EV credits for years before it became profitable, they would not have survived as a company without the legislative support, especially in California.
@@isaac827 That is not true, they barely got anything... Please put the numbers into context. Usually the subsidies was just targeted just below tesla's price. That is one of the reason why tesla increased the price and 11 month later decreased. They know at the time IRA is coming and they know it will be just set under their price.
@@isaac827The point is, there is no such thing as a free market. The "free market" is an abstract concept, first invented as a very crude but simple tool to help understand how economies work. It was later hijacked by certain people who used it as a tool to help rationalize certain predatory behaviors. And this is how it has been used ever since. When used in this way, the concept of the "free market" becomes a hazard to pretty much the entire human population, since it rationalizes extreme concentrations of wealth and power that create or exacerbate innumerable social problems.
Where I live, there is a big incentives for EVs, but 90% of the money was spent on ICE cars (hybrids with 1.7kwh battery inside, just to put into context an avg 12v battery is 0.5-1kwh)
You REALLY should watch the film from 2006 (!) 'Who Killed the Electric Car?'. Thanks very much for getting this information out there. Here's hoping we have seen the light, at last.
I don’t know why anyone would be surprised by this . Scientists from Exxon have come forward and gone on the record to explain in detail what they found, and then (once they themselves were retired) talked about how their research was suppressed.
Yes, just like tobacco. And in the late 60s and 70s they introduced 'lighter' cigarettes with fancy filters to keep customers who should be quitting smoking altogether - just like the hybrid push now to delay EV transition
Totally agree. Where is the common sense to have 2 different motors to run your car. Even more things that can go wrong. More money for the dealership's in maintenance. Wake Up people!!
Just as a niche hobby interest. The return of vinyl is the triumph of marketing hype to make people accept what is very clearly an inferior product.@@stefan2796
This lobbying is good for nothing and should be criminalised. And if some independent research shows a company knows about the negative effects of it’s products/production process and does not communicate it, it should be held fully accountable. And if politicians don’t serve the people but instead become lobbyists themselves, they should be replaced.
I figured this out in high school when it was explained to me how simple an electric motor is compared to an internal combustion engine. I mean, most who watched “Who Killed The Electric Car?” saw this on display.
This is exactly what handed those industries to China on a silver platter. The US and its allies started first with EVs, renewables, and related technology such as batteries, but their earlier efforts got shut down by lobbying from big oil and legacy automakers; China looked at that, figured that the global demand would nevertheless exist, and just ignored the pressure from big oil and legacy auto to not go so fast towards those newer techs. To put it another way, big oil and legacy auto lobbying are ultimately the reason why China nowadays manufactures some 60%-80% of all solar panels, wind turbines, batteries, power inverters, EVs, etc. And China is the reason we still have a chance at avoiding catastrophic global warming, as China getting a near monopoly on that tech prompted even the countries beholden to oil and legacy auto to invest heavily into making their own clean tech offerings more competitive with the Chinese ones, as otherwise not even tariffs would prevent the Chinese from saturating their markets.
China is also a massive importer of fossil fuels, going EV and renewables helps reduce it's dependence on other countries. it's a massive investment, but it's a game changer is so many ways for them and us
@@vandamonium1731Yes, this is true. But this doesn't mean that the climate isn't changing. And it doesn't excuse the role these executives played in blocking action on that serious problem for decades. The lost time means that the solutions will be more costly and the damage done before we get a handle on it will be much greater. The actions of these executives have had effects that will cost your great grandkids very dearly. And they have known about these effects since 1959, when Edward Teller spelled it out in an invited keynote address to the American Petroleum Institute.
The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 is the most significant climate legislation in U.S. history, offering funding, programs, and incentives to accelerate the transition to a clean energy economy and is driving significant deployment of new clean electricity resources. Most provisions of the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 became effective 1/1/2023. Orange man alternative: "Drill baby, drill."
At my age and a news junkie, I can tell you that all the news sources you quoted I having been reading myself. You are right - the special interest lobbyists have been enormously successful in keeping the fossil fuel industry dominant on society.
All subsidies for any fossil fuels organization must be stopped ASAP, they make billions in profits per year!!! Use that money for education or other applications. I say sue them to oblivion.
I think to some extent this is why he moved his company to texas. Because he knew that if he built a gigantic business in Texas that he would gain their support and counteract the fossil fuel Industries in that same state. You can imagine that Louisiana might let Tesla's be sold directly in their state if Tesla had a factory there
Oil money in the US funded a think tank to constantly bad mouth high speed trains. They didn't even bother to hide where they got their money from. Pathetic.
One of their front groups is currently running youtube ads asking us to call politicians to oppose a legislation to support heat pumps and other energy efficiency efforts.
Except a large portion are just folk with others investing on their behalf and have no visability on where their money goes, pension funds, investment product bundlers, in NZ our government Accident Compensation scheme does. It can be hard to find where your money is being invested.
So shareholders, fearful that their retirement account will expire before they expire, don't care that their grandchildren are going to have to deal with global warming related problems. Yep, that sounds Exactly like boomers to me. The MOST selfish generation EVER.
Lame excuse that the shareholders are the responsible ones. The companies are self-responsible and don't do things just because the shareholders want them to do them.
@@stevechance150 As a boomber I can tell you that we were the first environmentalists. First earth day, protests and moratoriums. What you are seeing a generation leaving the workforce which generates some angst.
Doesn't surprise me in the slightest. When I suggested that battery development, for instance, had been held back deliberately by influencers from oil/gas/auto industries, I was told by a leading YTer that there was no evidence of that happening, therefore it wasn't possible. Honestly, I couldn't believe the naivity. I didn't bother to come back - you never sway a person who are so sure that they refuse to listen.
Well done one of the most interesting messages I have seen . Sort of explains why Australia has taken so long to come up to speed on getting rid of fossil fuels .😂😂
To much is tied into fossil fuel. The governments also taking piggyback rides with taxes on gas prices, heating oil prices, everything. Instead of being transparent for the "younger" generations. Now people are making such a fuss when a EV registration is more expensive, or when there's changes coming to electricity pricing. They need to get the money in elsewhere for the infrastructure, that makes sense. But they're not being transparent enough and people are now made to think that they're being scammed. It sucks that electricity bills are higher now, but there's other factors as well. Saying all that I would also argue that some things (like electricity) are a bit to high now, because of stupid things the governments do, like the country being completely self sufficient when it comes to electricity production, but still sell the electricity to foreign establishments and then buy it back... That's just pathetic. But the point right now is, fossil fuel sucks and anyone trying to block or trying to become rich of off our efforts for the future of the planet should be punished. There is not left, right, capitalist or communist ideology here. If we don't make a change we're all fucked.
I have my suspicions that they hit the nuclear industry as well. Considering what nuclear had to offer for one example you can make hydrocarbon fuel simply from the heat of the reactor. Nuclear was also earmarked for the transport industry. No wonder it got usurped to the military. Why is that every nuclear plant that went up was due human error despite safety standards? Then the anti nuclear propaganda? Also why is the standard 44 Gallon drum always involved, given that the 44 is standard to the oil industry.
"There is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come." EVs are coming through because the technical feasibility and economics are now undeniable.
The other reason climate science became controversial was because of intentional, well-funded doubt-manufacturing by the fossil fuel industry. (Even after they conducted tens of millions of dollars worth of their own cutting edge research and found it corroborated the science.) One might call them… Merchants of Doubt
Given the timescales and resultant deaths, these companies are guilty of genocide. Where are the international courts that should strip these companies of assets, and imprison their senior management, both current and historical.
We didn't kill all the horses when mass production made cars affordable.When humans worked out how to produce Iron all the Bronze tools didn't disappear overnight.
Actually we did kill the horses… …And then we ate them 🤣 The US horse population peaked at 25 million in 1920 and had crashed to under 5 million by 1950.
The first Toyota RAV4 EV was in California in 1997. California's strict laws, made car makers feel they had to make EVs in the late 1990's. These included the GM EV1, Honda EV Plus "about 300 produced", Ford Ranger EV & Toyota RAV4 EV. Of course they were all produced in small quantities & ONLY for the California market. All were discontinues as soon as they got California to change the rules.
Sounds like Joss Wheadon was on the nail with his TV series "The Nevers" where a global future war between the corrupt oil industry and ecological friendly states led to the destruction of the planet. A pretty good series, spoilt by the me-too/cancel culture moment that led to the cancellation of the series midway through the season.
I have suspected this for a long time. I use an anology that if a scientist invented a way for a car to run on water, it would be bought off by the oil company and hidden away. This is showing they knew consequences way back and could have helped to reduce the risks.
I am building my house on Maui completely off grid. I am not a greenie and I don't think that CO2, being part of the respiration and photosynthesis cycles, are a pollutant either when CO2 is measured in PPM and has a vanishingly small heat capacity compared with that of water. I am far more worried about the self-oxides and nitroxides that are the result of burning fossil fuels than CO2. That being said, I cannot make my own gasoline at home, but I can make electricity. We need to end subsidies immediately because it is a vector used by the government to redistribute American taxpayers money to friends colleagues and corruption. Things like alternative energy need to stand on their own economically without subsidy. On Maui, SUBSIDIZED residential energy costs are $0.42 per kilowatt hour, I can build my solar system with an unsubsidized cost at $0.16 per kilowatt hour. If I factor in other incidentals such as a $10,000 hookup fee for the grid and a 30% rebate from the government, my adjusted cost per kilowatt hour is less than 8 cents. $0.16 was already good enough. In the long run, the grid is a fossil, really only necessary for big cities. Independent home power generation is where the future will be for most of us that have houses. The government hates this, because there are taxes on our power bills that they will be losing. The Hawaii state subsidy in fact is only given if you hook up to the grid. I will not be getting that lol.
Your ignorance is astounding. I suggest you actually research global warming properly. If you do it properly and diligently you will be both very worried and very angry that the fossil fuel industry has got away with it for so long.
Just look at the evidence. Most plants do not need any more CO2, they need nutrients, water , light etc. CO2 is rarely the bottleneck. With 4 deg C temperature increase we are facing the collapse of civilisation. Go back to school and get the proper perspective.@@terrylane1492
"It's astonishing to learn that around 30 years ago, an Iranian engineer designed a hybrid and electric car, later developed in Germany. However, the Iranian government denied him permission to build a factory for manufacturing hybrid cars, fearing it would conflict with their oil sales. Sadly, he had to abandon his project, throwing two cars he made into the water before leaving the country."
Why is every one surprised by this ? In 2017 according to the IMF. The oil industry was subsidized by Russia to the tune of 515 billion dollars. , the US subsidies were 650 billion and china's subsidies were in the region 1.2 trillion dollars. Just from these 3 countries 2.7 trillion dollars was the subsidies in 2017 . How much more came from all other countries
The Toyota RAV 4 EV was really built by Tesla. When panels are pulled back o. The inside all the electric guts are clearly marked with the Tesla logo. Moves like no other RAV... no wonder.
I'm not saying corporate interests don't circle the wagons to protect their markets, they obviously do. However, the failure of EVs to take off until the last couple decades also had a lot to do with Li Ion cells and pack energy density. I don't think anyone here would kid themselves that lead acid or even NiCad packs would be sufficient for performance or range.
The first version of the Toyota RAV4 EV came out in 1997 and it was the best electric car you could get in the USA at that time. They only built less than 2000 of those probably to make sure that the EVs wouldn’t compete with Toyota gas powered cars
It was proven in the 1990s that electric vehicles were a viable product with the GM EV1. Toyota and legacy automakers saying they need more time is only an overly used delay tactic.
Most of the subsidies to fossil fuels occur in 3rd world countries. In Europe the government makes huge amounts of money from the sale of petrol and diesel at the pump. The cost of the petrol is £0.40 but it sells for £1.40 meaning probably £0.90 of the final price goes to the government. European prices of petrol and diesel are similar. This form of fossil fuel energy is a huge revenue earner for governments.
@@jeezy0025 Explain yourself if you can. But I think we both know you haven't a clue - and so can't do that explaining.......essentially you have swallowed hook, line and sinker the propaganda pumped out by the WEF and their affiliates.
That's one of the major difference between the government in China and the US. In the US the government is dictated to by large conglomerates and politicians are all corrupt when they received millions of dollars in their political funding and eventually payoff. In China it is decided by their annual two planetary sessions of their top legislature..
China, strategically positioned, is poised to spearhead the transition toward renewable energy. Consider the following factors: Reducing Oil Dependency: China currently imports 70% of its crude oil. This reliance on imports puts it in a position to drive renewable energy adoption, potentially reducing its vulnerability at the Straits of Malacca. Urban Pollution Challenge: The pollution levels in Chinese cities have reached critical levels. As you approach any major city airport, the severity becomes evident. Additionally, the rising cancer rates underscore the urgency for cleaner energy alternatives. Economic Opportunities: China’s investment in new energy sectors not only contributes to environmental sustainability but also generates substantial employment opportunities and economic growth.
These two have been fighting each other for 125yrs, Electric was winning until the electric starter was invented and then gas had the hold until 2016. Now its to the point that gas is grasping at straws.
Big Oil and ICE car industries are responsible for the current climate crisis. They should be held accountable for all the natural disasters and deaths arising from this...They MUST pay for the repairs and compensation due to the people.. I suggest that governments and people who are not complicit in this start suing. And those governments involved should also start paying to repair the damage. We can accelerate the repair with this money.. Temperatures are already unbearable in many parts of the world without air conditioning or heat pumps... The melting icecaps are already increasing sea levels and flooding coastal residential areas around the world.. These people should come together and take the greedy big Oil and ICE car manufacturers to task.
i will quote this from a recent OPEC freely available online report 'The United Arab Emirates (UAE) has invested heavily in increasing hydrocarbon production capacity and developing midstream and downstream infrastructure to accommodate future growth in hydrocarbon production. However, over the past 10 years, UAE actual production has averaged just less than 3 million barrels per day (b/d) because of production cut agreements between OPEC and non-OPEC participating countries (collectively known as OPEC+), according to our Country Analysis Brief: United Arab Emirates. The UAE national oil company, the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (ADNOC), has set a target to increase crude oil production capacity to 5 million b/d by 2027, moving up its earlier 2030 target by three years, according to the Middle East Economic Survey.' basically they are supplying hydrocarbons for the renewable energy market so will be upping oil capacity
Paradigm shifts are always hard to accept, particularly for vested interests, greed is an unforgiving master !
So true. VESTED INTERESTS, people do not understand the true meaning and effects of these two words.
@@linoiovenitti7207are you suggesting that there are no vested interests when it come the Solar and Wind. How naive are you?
It all comes back to government corruption.
it's not that it was hard to accept. it was blocked.
They went with the easy money solar and wind weren't considered easy.
Just like the tobacco industry. When billions are at stake, no way they will go down without a fight. No matter how bad it is for humans or the world.
Just like villifying the tobacco companies while expecting co tinyed sales to generate tax revenue, 'evil oil' is villified while being expected to continue to get the raw petroleum needed for all 'green' tech.
No, Sam, the oil companies didn't 'keep green tech down,' it failed repeatedly because it's a group of non-viable machines. The only thing making it look viable NOW, is the unsustainable amount of subsidy bring thrown at it. ALL of it. As soon as the subsidy ends, so do the golf carts and pinwheels and smoke and mirrors solar.
California is AWASH in dead pinwheel and solar parks. That is ALL the proof you need. But the same has happened in Spain and Puerto Rico and everywhere else this nonsense has been tried.
Global Warming is a scam. They are altering the data to show warming. It is actually slowly cooling.
Fuel industry, tobacco industry, pharmaceutical industry, defence industry, pesticides industry, they all show the same preservation behaviour when threatened.
well the woke made it we can not fly normal or smoke and drink and that is what you get if left is in control your freedom will be gone they do not care about history
they only care about them self smoking in your own car they like to see as a crime
but a muslim killing a person is free in a few days. the idiots.
I thought most people had already openly suspected or known this for decades?
So true, but the Electric Viking never misses an opportunity to gaslight.
True, however the industries 1.1trillion well spent keeping the lid on things.
Yes but people tend to forget because of all the FUD of Oil & ICE industries are propagating, such as Toyota & Big Oil.
The oil tycoons, the Koch brothers, have been the puppet masters of the Republican Party since the Reagan administration. They’ve spent hundreds of millions of dollars denying climate change, renewable energy, government regulations, public schools, and public roads just to name a few. They are the ones pushing the libertarian movement so that they can make more profits at the expense of every human being
Well done and thank you to those who dug up all the evidence.
Glad you enjoyed it
Horrendous! I just spent the weekend in Stuttgart, the birthplace of the internal combustion engine. Lots of EV's around but sooo many big, loud, stinky muscle cars as well. My lungs today are suffering!
What about the African children in the Congo suffering in the mines. Poor you.
Hi Sam, I have been watching your videos for about 3 years and this is the first time I have commented, a while back you commented on how good Chevy Bolts were, I took your advice and now I have A 2023 Bolt, and I love it thank you very much.
Congratulations! A lot of Bolt owners have said how much they love the car.
Time for a tobacco style law suit
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@@paulhailey2537 Pffft, HELLOOOOO CROCS..😂😂😂
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this is almost exactly like it all republicans did was fight against it for years the American people have been lied to for decades. if things don't change we will be a third world country because every other country will pass us up in clean cheap energy
I live in the state of Florida in the USA. I have had an EV for three years. I charge it at home as charging stations are few and hard to use. The US government offered 200 million dollars to build charging stations, but our governor turned down the offer. This is in spite of the fact that Florida is a tourist destination state. Our best hope is that motels will offer chargers.
I live in Sweden and we have 8 different operators including Tesla competing for charger space. New chargers are popping up all the time and the only time it is hard to get a DC charger is on day before Christmas, Easter, Midsummer when everyone is traveling at the same time.
If the global temperature rise gets to 4 degrees C, which is becoming even more likely, much of Florida is toast. Sea level rise will drown large areas and the aquifers will be tainted by sea water incursion. The Florida administration is a classic case of fiddling while Rome burns and thinking that they can overcome nature through denial. Appalling.
Hello, i live in Egypt we have no EV at all. We ride only donkes
@@minamikhaeil9314 Here in the USA we have a term, it is called: "Comparing Apples and Oranges", Egypt is different from the USA. I took a Google Maps look at Cairo, which contains a quarter of Egypt's population. I looked at "KFC (Gameat Al Dowal St.)" and that intersection was full of cars. I noticed that a vast amount of housing were multi-unit buildings. It is great that you ride a donkey but EV buses in Cairo would be a good thing. Also, EV bikes, scooters, motorcycles and trikes are a growing segment, especially in Asia.
How is this possible a surprise, it goes back even further and can be traced back to 1910 when Henery Tord was seeking funding for his new proposal of "mass production"
Many dont realize it but the T Ford was originally planned to be an EV to the point that Henery spent two years working with Ederson on improving battery chemistry but when it came to the crunch the only people prepared to invest in his new ideas were oil interests and their money came with conditions. Fast forward 70 years and GM built the EV1 a basic but successful EV for it's time and a response to the proposed Californian emission laws. The production was shut down at the demand of their major shareholder of the time Texico who then went on to lobby to have the emission laws thrown out. GM must be looking over their shoulder now at an opportunity lost .
I think the issue of weight and the safety of such a large pack of lead-acid batteries to get decent range was a bit of concern to Henry Ford. And charging the battery was going to be an issue given nascent stage of electrical grid networks across the USA in the early 1910's.
lithium batteries are barely energy dense enough to meet the current needs for a lot of people, the reason the cars ended up being ICE was because it was the only viable alternative, as iCE engine development progressed they became cheaper and better, lead acid batteries were never going to be able to compete with the energy density of petrol. Lithium batteries started being talked about in the fifties but werent commercially available until the late 70s, lithium-ion came along in 1991 and until solid state batteries come, there probably wont be any significant advances.
@@Sacto1654 Early EV batteries were nickel-iron (had to look that up). Relatively low discharge rates by modern standards. But they can last 100 years with maintenance.
@@isaac827 Wrong. The reason that cars switched to ICE was money. When Henery Ford went looking for investment into his madcap idea of mass production the only investment he could find was oil money which came with conditions. What made them a success was the price, he reduced the average price of a car from $1300 to $350. In fact the average ICE car at that time had a range of about 100 miles, had to be hand started, was noisy, oily and outside of the cities very hard to refuel.
Ev's of the time were known as the ladies car as you got in, pressed a button and moved. They were quiet, clean, had a range of about 100 miles and could be easily recharged in the cities with public charging available.
@@Sacto1654 Once again wrong. in fact prior to 1910 90% of cars built were electric and if you think the grid was not up to if, there was no petrol distribution at all. You had to buy your "motor spirit" in half gallon glass jars from your chemist.
ICE cars were noisy, oily, had to be crank started and had a range of about 100 miles on average. They required constant maintains and were also not very reliable.
EV's on the other hand started at the press of a button, were quiet, clean and reliable and they had a range of about 100 miles on average.
What changed was mass production which bought the cost of a car from $1300 to $350 and EV's which were hand built could not compete on price nor could they afford to tool up for mass production.
Ironically the same thing is happening today with Ford and GM struggling to convert to EV profitably for the same reasons.
There are virtually *no* "free markets". We have monopolies or cartels in virtually *all* sectors.
All these so-called free-marketeers never say *anything* about this because so many of them are on the take from these same interests.
You dont realize how supported the EV market is? Tesla was propped up by government subsidies and government mandated EV credits for years before it became profitable, they would not have survived as a company without the legislative support, especially in California.
@@isaac827 That is not true, they barely got anything... Please put the numbers into context. Usually the subsidies was just targeted just below tesla's price. That is one of the reason why tesla increased the price and 11 month later decreased. They know at the time IRA is coming and they know it will be just set under their price.
@@isaac827The point is, there is no such thing as a free market.
The "free market" is an abstract concept, first invented as a very crude but simple tool to help understand how economies work.
It was later hijacked by certain people who used it as a tool to help rationalize certain predatory behaviors. And this is how it has been used ever since.
When used in this way, the concept of the "free market" becomes a hazard to pretty much the entire human population, since it rationalizes extreme concentrations of wealth and power that create or exacerbate innumerable social problems.
Where I live, there is a big incentives for EVs, but 90% of the money was spent on ICE cars (hybrids with 1.7kwh battery inside, just to put into context an avg 12v battery is 0.5-1kwh)
@@buscseik They make more sense to me, my next car will probably be a hybrid.
Same is true for manufacturers of plastic packaging. They claimed it was recyclable when in fact 85% is not
You REALLY should watch the film from 2006 (!) 'Who Killed the Electric Car?'. Thanks very much for getting this information out there. Here's hoping we have seen the light, at last.
I don’t know why anyone would be surprised by this .
Scientists from Exxon have come forward and gone on the record to explain in detail what they found, and then (once they themselves were retired) talked about how their research was suppressed.
Yes, just like tobacco. And in the late 60s and 70s they introduced 'lighter' cigarettes with fancy filters to keep customers who should be quitting smoking altogether - just like the hybrid push now to delay EV transition
Totally agree. Where is the common sense to have 2 different motors to run your car. Even more things that can go wrong. More money for the dealership's in maintenance. Wake Up people!!
Great comparison. Hybrids and "light" filters.
Thank you, more video like this please.
Kodac invented the digital camera.. Board members all agreed the future is film. 😂
Film and vinyl have come back...just a thought.
So will ICE vehicles. Rare collector items for enthusiasts. But not for the mainstream.
@@MultiMenvafan Which is totally fine. We just can't afford billions of people all over the world to spew out toxic gases every day.
@@stefan2796 not so much a comeback as having a niche market of enthusiasts. Every technology humans invent never actually goes away.
Just as a niche hobby interest. The return of vinyl is the triumph of marketing hype to make people accept what is very clearly an inferior product.@@stefan2796
This lobbying is good for nothing and should be criminalised. And if some independent research shows a company knows about the negative effects of it’s products/production process and does not communicate it, it should be held fully accountable. And if politicians don’t serve the people but instead become lobbyists themselves, they should be replaced.
I figured this out in high school when it was explained to me how simple an electric motor is compared to an internal combustion engine. I mean, most who watched “Who Killed The Electric Car?” saw this on display.
Not surprised.
This is exactly what handed those industries to China on a silver platter. The US and its allies started first with EVs, renewables, and related technology such as batteries, but their earlier efforts got shut down by lobbying from big oil and legacy automakers; China looked at that, figured that the global demand would nevertheless exist, and just ignored the pressure from big oil and legacy auto to not go so fast towards those newer techs.
To put it another way, big oil and legacy auto lobbying are ultimately the reason why China nowadays manufactures some 60%-80% of all solar panels, wind turbines, batteries, power inverters, EVs, etc. And China is the reason we still have a chance at avoiding catastrophic global warming, as China getting a near monopoly on that tech prompted even the countries beholden to oil and legacy auto to invest heavily into making their own clean tech offerings more competitive with the Chinese ones, as otherwise not even tariffs would prevent the Chinese from saturating their markets.
China Government is for the People. US EU Government for Big Oil.
China is also a massive importer of fossil fuels, going EV and renewables helps reduce it's dependence on other countries. it's a massive investment, but it's a game changer is so many ways for them and us
China essentially secured their next 100+ years by looking forward and seeing a gap in the market.. there are cities already 100% electric
@@Knott1701 Exactly. Ethiopia bans import of ICE Cars. They have a lot of Electricity. EV saves them 5 Billion a year of Oil imports.
If not for their foreign policy, treatment of minorities, border disputes, territorial and sea claims etc., i would be a great fan.
Thank Sam for the great video. Let's make them pay!
without oil you have no turbines, solar or cables
@@vandamonium1731Yes, this is true. But this doesn't mean that the climate isn't changing.
And it doesn't excuse the role these executives played in blocking action on that serious problem for decades. The lost time means that the solutions will be more costly and the damage done before we get a handle on it will be much greater.
The actions of these executives have had effects that will cost your great grandkids very dearly. And they have known about these effects since 1959, when Edward Teller spelled it out in an invited keynote address to the American Petroleum Institute.
"It's just been revealed..."
Worst kept secret of the century.
Stop all subsidies!
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your welcome
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The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 is the most significant climate legislation in U.S. history, offering funding, programs, and incentives to accelerate the transition to a clean energy economy and is driving significant deployment of new clean electricity resources. Most provisions of the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 became effective 1/1/2023. Orange man alternative: "Drill baby, drill."
At my age and a news junkie, I can tell you that all the news sources you quoted I having been reading myself. You are right - the special interest lobbyists have been enormously successful in keeping the fossil fuel industry dominant on society.
All I hear from oil and many ICE companies is "EV: bad, gummint:bad" and there are plenty of petrolheads singing to the conductor.
Newsflash: they’re still doing it
All subsidies for any fossil fuels organization must be stopped ASAP, they make billions in profits per year!!! Use that money for education or other applications. I say sue them to oblivion.
This is super old news! That’s why Elon used a blitz strategy to get his cars out so he couldn’t be stopped!
Musk used no strategies. The climate change fringe lunatics just help him along.
I think to some extent this is why he moved his company to texas. Because he knew that if he built a gigantic business in Texas that he would gain their support and counteract the fossil fuel Industries in that same state. You can imagine that Louisiana might let Tesla's be sold directly in their state if Tesla had a factory there
bullshit. the cards just fell in his favour.
@@robertfonovic3551if it was so easy, then why did more established players fail beforehand (and continue to fail)?
include mass transit & high speed rails
??? in what ??
Free th children from ridin on diesel school buses or stfkup
Oil money in the US funded a think tank to constantly bad mouth high speed trains. They didn't even bother to hide where they got their money from. Pathetic.
Over 100 years! 🙉Look up U.S. Subsidies to Fossil fuels started during WWI 🧐
The amazing long history (1826 - 2022) of ELECTRIC CARS !
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Cheers mate
One of their front groups is currently running youtube ads asking us to call politicians to oppose a legislation to support heat pumps and other energy efficiency efforts.
I think this is exactly what oil company shareholders would want and expect them to do.
Except a large portion are just folk with others investing on their behalf and have no visability on where their money goes, pension funds, investment product bundlers, in NZ our government Accident Compensation scheme does. It can be hard to find where your money is being invested.
So shareholders, fearful that their retirement account will expire before they expire, don't care that their grandchildren are going to have to deal with global warming related problems.
Yep, that sounds Exactly like boomers to me. The MOST selfish generation EVER.
Lame excuse that the shareholders are the responsible ones. The companies are self-responsible and don't do things just because the shareholders want them to do them.
Agree. Nothing like shareholders without a conscience.
@@stevechance150 As a boomber I can tell you that we were the first environmentalists. First earth day, protests and moratoriums. What you are seeing a generation leaving the workforce which generates some angst.
The final outcome is the Chinese dominance in battery technology.
Legacy industries always die
Think so? So no competition? Keep on dreaming.
Make that 120 years - Ford and Edison partnered around 1900 to do an EV...
And it’s been one heck of a fight
Doesn't surprise me in the slightest. When I suggested that battery development, for instance, had been held back deliberately by influencers from oil/gas/auto industries, I was told by a leading YTer that there was no evidence of that happening, therefore it wasn't possible. Honestly, I couldn't believe the naivity. I didn't bother to come back - you never sway a person who are so sure that they refuse to listen.
Now there’s a thing. Think next time You hear a negative presentation against Tesla.
Well done one of the most interesting messages I have seen . Sort of explains why Australia has taken so long to come up to speed on getting rid of fossil fuels .😂😂
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Common sense tell us that no matter what its all about greed and not about the good of the planet be it fossil or green !
read about Sanley Meyer, Paul Pantone..... and their inventions....and how they ended....
To much is tied into fossil fuel. The governments also taking piggyback rides with taxes on gas prices, heating oil prices, everything. Instead of being transparent for the "younger" generations. Now people are making such a fuss when a EV registration is more expensive, or when there's changes coming to electricity pricing. They need to get the money in elsewhere for the infrastructure, that makes sense. But they're not being transparent enough and people are now made to think that they're being scammed. It sucks that electricity bills are higher now, but there's other factors as well. Saying all that I would also argue that some things (like electricity) are a bit to high now, because of stupid things the governments do, like the country being completely self sufficient when it comes to electricity production, but still sell the electricity to foreign establishments and then buy it back... That's just pathetic. But the point right now is, fossil fuel sucks and anyone trying to block or trying to become rich of off our efforts for the future of the planet should be punished. There is not left, right, capitalist or communist ideology here. If we don't make a change we're all fucked.
Lobby is just a fancy word for Bribe !!
I have my suspicions that they hit the nuclear industry as well. Considering what nuclear had to offer for one example you can make hydrocarbon fuel simply from the heat of the reactor. Nuclear was also earmarked for the transport industry. No wonder it got usurped to the military. Why is that every nuclear plant that went up was due human error despite safety standards? Then the anti nuclear propaganda? Also why is the standard 44 Gallon drum always involved, given that the 44 is standard to the oil industry.
Oil industry has been retreating from Australia for decades. Used to be 4 stations on every major corner. Used to be 6 refineries now only 2.
Mining coal is still big in aussie land. Selling a lot of coal to china, to produce cheap EVs...
its been common knowlage for decades....
Hermann Scheer . In memory. Independent thinker and one father of German EEG.🕯️
The oil industry loves PR. They just lie to you in plain in English about any alternative energy progress they’re trying to make.
breaking news: that thing that practically everyone has known through basic common sense for decades is true 🤯
"There is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come."
EVs are coming through because the technical feasibility and economics are now undeniable.
The other reason climate science became controversial was because of intentional, well-funded doubt-manufacturing by the fossil fuel industry. (Even after they conducted tens of millions of dollars worth of their own cutting edge research and found it corroborated the science.)
One might call them… Merchants of Doubt
Given the timescales and resultant deaths, these companies are guilty of genocide. Where are the international courts that should strip these companies of assets, and imprison their senior management, both current and historical.
We didn't kill all the horses when mass production made cars affordable.When humans worked out how to produce Iron all the Bronze tools didn't disappear overnight.
Actually we did kill the horses…
…And then we ate them 🤣
The US horse population peaked at 25 million in 1920 and had crashed to under 5 million by 1950.
Horse meat products absolutely surged. We ate the horses
The first Toyota RAV4 EV was in California in 1997. California's strict laws, made car makers feel they had to make EVs in the late 1990's. These included the GM EV1, Honda EV Plus "about 300 produced", Ford Ranger EV & Toyota RAV4 EV. Of course they were all produced in small quantities & ONLY for the California market. All were discontinues as soon as they got California to change the rules.
Sounds like Joss Wheadon was on the nail with his TV series "The Nevers" where a global future war between the corrupt oil industry and ecological friendly states led to the destruction of the planet. A pretty good series, spoilt by the me-too/cancel culture moment that led to the cancellation of the series midway through the season.
I have suspected this for a long time. I use an anology that if a scientist invented a way for a car to run on water, it would be bought off by the oil company and hidden away. This is showing they knew consequences way back and could have helped to reduce the risks.
This happened but they didn't buy it they just killed the guy. His last words were "I've been poisoned"
Hello Sam. TenneT Nederland is going to invest 160 Billion Euro in the Grid. Today News. 160 Billion in 10 Years. 👍☀️🎶
Morning mate
I am building my house on Maui completely off grid. I am not a greenie and I don't think that CO2, being part of the respiration and photosynthesis cycles, are a pollutant either when CO2 is measured in PPM and has a vanishingly small heat capacity compared with that of water. I am far more worried about the self-oxides and nitroxides that are the result of burning fossil fuels than CO2. That being said, I cannot make my own gasoline at home, but I can make electricity. We need to end subsidies immediately because it is a vector used by the government to redistribute American taxpayers money to friends colleagues and corruption. Things like alternative energy need to stand on their own economically without subsidy. On Maui, SUBSIDIZED residential energy costs are $0.42 per kilowatt hour, I can build my solar system with an unsubsidized cost at $0.16 per kilowatt hour. If I factor in other incidentals such as a $10,000 hookup fee for the grid and a 30% rebate from the government, my adjusted cost per kilowatt hour is less than 8 cents. $0.16 was already good enough. In the long run, the grid is a fossil, really only necessary for big cities. Independent home power generation is where the future will be for most of us that have houses. The government hates this, because there are taxes on our power bills that they will be losing. The Hawaii state subsidy in fact is only given if you hook up to the grid. I will not be getting that lol.
Your ignorance is astounding. I suggest you actually research global warming properly. If you do it properly and diligently you will be both very worried and very angry that the fossil fuel industry has got away with it for so long.
@@rogerphelps9939 I guess all that grad school in biochemistry just failed huh. lol
@@rogerphelps9939 do the math for yourself instead of listening to the censored data of the well funded environmental lobby.
Just look at the evidence. Most plants do not need any more CO2, they need nutrients, water , light etc. CO2 is rarely the bottleneck. With 4 deg C temperature increase we are facing the collapse of civilisation. Go back to school and get the proper perspective.@@terrylane1492
What a surprise...✨
Please release this video to all, not just for your members.
yep and he did just that 😃
this post may get 30k views. Thats .000002 of the worlds population. nobody cares. and i cant blame them.
This is the battle between good and bad
Yes.
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"It's astonishing to learn that around 30 years ago, an Iranian engineer designed a hybrid and electric car, later developed in Germany. However, the Iranian government denied him permission to build a factory for manufacturing hybrid cars, fearing it would conflict with their oil sales. Sadly, he had to abandon his project, throwing two cars he made into the water before leaving the country."
Time for a massive government lawsuit to claw back the subsidies that were obviously spent on fighting alternative energy.
Why is every one surprised by this ?
In 2017 according to the IMF. The oil industry was subsidized by Russia to the tune of 515 billion dollars. , the US subsidies were 650 billion and china's subsidies were in the region 1.2 trillion dollars. Just from these 3 countries 2.7 trillion dollars was the subsidies in 2017 . How much more came from all other countries
Bullshit.
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Look it up yourself I have no issue with you doing your own research yourself on this. Go ahead educate yourself.
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Like big food too
So many bots and ignorant people in the comments. Keep fighting for oil & gas as it continues harming you and your family. Absolute madness.
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I totally agree. The bots and trolls show the ongoing fight of the fossil fuel lobby.
What about the rubber particles from EV tires? No 1 reason for cancer...do you take that into account as well?
@@stefan2796 what? ICE cars don't have rubber tires?
@@zebraimageEV 'engines' generate hugh torque. So, much more rubber pollution is coming from EV tires. This is a fact.
Remember that electric vehicles predate gasoline-powered vehicles. Think about that. It's not a new thing.
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EVs only became truly viable with the full production availability of Lithium-ion batteries in around 2000 (Tesla was founded in 2003).
Small EVs are good for use inside cities. Otherwise: hybrid is the best option. Toyota chose the best, future proof strategy.
I live in the country my pure EV is the best option. Toyota choice is the worst, future failing strategy.
Thanks for calling out the bs, Sam,
The Toyota RAV 4 EV was really built by Tesla. When panels are pulled back o. The inside all the electric guts are clearly marked with the Tesla logo. Moves like no other RAV... no wonder.
That’s the gen 2 RAV4 EV.
I'm not saying corporate interests don't circle the wagons to protect their markets, they obviously do. However, the failure of EVs to take off until the last couple decades also had a lot to do with Li Ion cells and pack energy density. I don't think anyone here would kid themselves that lead acid or even NiCad packs would be sufficient for performance or range.
"fought" assumes past tense. I'm quite certain they are still fighting...
The first version of the Toyota RAV4 EV came out in 1997 and it was the best electric car you could get in the USA at that time. They only built less than 2000 of those probably to make sure that the EVs wouldn’t compete with Toyota gas powered cars
your accounting ignores military needed to ensure oil trade flows smoothly
It was proven in the 1990s that electric vehicles were a viable product with the GM EV1. Toyota and legacy automakers saying they need more time is only an overly used delay tactic.
Most of the subsidies to fossil fuels occur in 3rd world countries. In Europe the government makes huge amounts of money from the sale of petrol and diesel at the pump. The cost of the petrol is £0.40 but it sells for £1.40 meaning probably £0.90 of the final price goes to the government. European prices of petrol and diesel are similar. This form of fossil fuel energy is a huge revenue earner for governments.
This couldn't be more wrong. You even misunderstand what subsidies are. 3rd world countries?!?
@@jeezy0025 Explain yourself if you can. But I think we both know you haven't a clue - and so can't do that explaining.......essentially you have swallowed hook, line and sinker the propaganda pumped out by the WEF and their affiliates.
That's one of the major difference between the government in China and the US. In the US the government is dictated to by large conglomerates and politicians are all corrupt when they received millions of dollars in their political funding and eventually payoff. In China it is decided by their annual two planetary sessions of their top legislature..
Corrupt politicians??? Get outta here…… dey need NOT apply for a ride ta Mars
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The UK government announced this morning to build a new gas power stations
Good news
not a surprise, but they have so ingrained the lies in our cultures
The main player is China and they don't have massive oil reserves ...the world was waiting for this dragon to awaken
Jai Hinduja. China retreats India advances. India is the next China and, China is Today's India.
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panda xi is still asleep...ssst
lobbying should be illegal
Strongest Lobby in the world
Toyota can't even produce hybrids at scale, and now other mainstream marques are working on superior hybrid technology to Toyota.
They are toast.
China, strategically positioned, is poised to spearhead the transition toward renewable energy. Consider the following factors:
Reducing Oil Dependency: China currently imports 70% of its crude oil. This reliance on imports puts it in a position to drive renewable energy adoption, potentially reducing its vulnerability at the Straits of Malacca.
Urban Pollution Challenge: The pollution levels in Chinese cities have reached critical levels. As you approach any major city airport, the severity becomes evident. Additionally, the rising cancer rates underscore the urgency for cleaner energy alternatives.
Economic Opportunities: China’s investment in new energy sectors not only contributes to environmental sustainability but also generates substantial employment opportunities and economic growth.
The end is in sight for oil is at a end
Wont never end but Will go down a bit
These two have been fighting each other for 125yrs, Electric was winning until the electric starter was invented and then gas had the hold until 2016. Now its to the point that gas is grasping at straws.
Take Big Oil off welfare.
take the under achievers off welfare
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@@robertfonovic3551that’s what I said. Thank you.
Big Oil and ICE car industries are responsible for the current climate crisis. They should be held accountable for all the natural disasters and deaths arising from this...They MUST pay for the repairs and compensation due to the people.. I suggest that governments and people who are not complicit in this start suing. And those governments involved should also start paying to repair the damage. We can accelerate the repair with this money.. Temperatures are already unbearable in many parts of the world without air conditioning or heat pumps... The melting icecaps are already increasing sea levels and flooding coastal residential areas around the world.. These people should come together and take the greedy big Oil and ICE car manufacturers to task.
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And the governments..!
Blocking the evs would have saved millions.
i will quote this from a recent OPEC freely available online report
'The United Arab Emirates (UAE) has invested heavily in increasing hydrocarbon production capacity and developing midstream and downstream infrastructure to accommodate future growth in hydrocarbon production. However, over the past 10 years, UAE actual production has averaged just less than 3 million barrels per day (b/d) because of production cut agreements between OPEC and non-OPEC participating countries (collectively known as OPEC+), according to our Country Analysis Brief: United Arab Emirates. The UAE national oil company, the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (ADNOC), has set a target to increase crude oil production capacity to 5 million b/d by 2027, moving up its earlier 2030 target by three years, according to the Middle East Economic Survey.'
basically they are supplying hydrocarbons for the renewable energy market so will be upping oil capacity
Bring on EV sticker price parity asap
Follow the money... into the lobbyists.
These ice companies are so greedy and lazy - it’s infuriating.