Knowing that interview where she said that Elphaba is like her now, I believe that she was forced to apologize after her tantrum, if Cynthia would get away with hers, she weren't apologize with nobody.
In the old days, Actors had PR agents to suggest what they should and shouldn't say in public to protect their image. But now, thanks to social media, we can all see what horrible excuses for human beings they truly are. Another reason why Hollywood is burning.
when i was growing up people had mid to high opinion of most stars now my same family couldn't care less if HW dropped off the plate in next tectonic sparing match the planet will have
@Larry Most of the new actresses before 2015 undergoes some sort of seminar on how to carry themselves in public. But youre right, giving them access to social media to interact with the public is a huge mistake.
Fancy seeing you here Guru Larry. You are correct prior to Social Media people kept their mouths shut and had PR agents handle the stuff now they get triggered so easily that they shit their stuff all over the internet for everybody to see.
Probably made to act that way. It was scripted, as always the case in these "interviews". PR was desperately trying to downplay the issue but still keep the "modernAudience" satisfied.
@@Leamichellefan2244 It was her justification. The interviewer praised her for it and she replied with her justification. This is not regret. This is not an apology. The fact that they are trying to twist it into something it clearly isn't should be put "On Blast" as much as she is.
she'd has the mindset of being easily offended has clout ... cause of her being bl@ck. justifying her biting the hamds that feeds her (in this case, indirectly fans). probably not someone people like to hang out with.
She will not genuinely apologize. She should be humbled, and I hope she is humbled. These actors, once they think they have success, their egos become incredibly large, and obnoxious.
"Trying to protect little Elphaba..." She wasn't trying to protect anything but her outsized ego. Feels like she got read the riot act by the studio and got told to fix this shit.
Never mind the fact that this wasn’t an apology this was just a justification for oh look at me. I can say whatever I want and then like somebody else said I don’t know if you seen that interview with that other lady who basically just kissed her weird like this guy is doing better. It’s sickening.
What bothers me more than the outburst is she put that fan account on blast and before it got more wider known and criticized there were people who rushed to attack the person who owns that account and call them racist.
She's either insane... she identifies with a fictional evil witch with green skin... or she doesn't understand she was protecting herself... it "Demeaned" HER, not the evil witch of west. Actresses in Modern Hollywood are downright creepy at times. It makes me wonder what they really do on the nights of the full moon!
She never apologized. And her subsequent interview with that other woman simping desperately for her, she continues to say its all about her. Keep her cancelled.
Oh my God yes, she never apologized. This was a BS justification and yes, that other interview where she just went on and on and on and on about how it’s all about her oh my God and the sad part is I don’t think she’s done yet. I don’t think we’ve heard the last of her or her little army of sycophants.
In her defense, I suspect the majority here were not the right customer base in the first place. But who knows? Perhaps the term toxic musical fans is starting to appear in the debate.
She is still a spoiled rich brat. Which is concerning. There are movies about spoiled kids and teenagers learning to become humble and responsible people who take accountability for their actions and behavior at the end of the film. But I guess it's just movies. Because IRL, they never learn.
It’s already too late. She buzzkilled the hype, and there’s nothing they can do to fully make amend with the fanbase before release. The awkwardness has settled in. One asshole killed an entire party.
I mean this funny cause I have mental health and recently got a septum piercing, but you don't see me attacking fans for doing a fan made art for poster on film based on Broadway musical. So not really a sign that they have mental health issues, it's just how some people are when their feelings get hurt and no one cares and can't just let it go.
"...a human moment of wanting to protect little Elphaba..." Oh, no no no. The fan poster erased YOU. It degraded YOU. Not once in your screed did you ever mention anything about the character.
Yes. How was she defending the CHARACTER in any way? She wasn't, she got butthurt because the edit somehow "erased" her because it hid her eyes, while she was just having empty stare in that image. I could not pick any emotions or thoughts from her face unlike from the musical poster. It's a generic blank stare.
Exactly. She talked about being an actress and looking down the barrel of a camera. It was all about the actress, not the character she's now trying to use as cover for her outburst.
Exactly she’s not sorry he’s not sorry he spent the whole time kissing her rear and if you want to see any more evidence of that nonsense look at the interview she did with Renee Rapp now that’s just vomit.
you people are all so butthurt and don't even see how everyone is over reacting. Yoou should know that many people have put their time and effort in this movie, to boycot the movie based on one reaction of one person is disrespcting everyone else that has worked on it and put their love in it.
@misterae6430 😂😂 when the lead actress scolds a fan for her art...yeah she deserves to be boycotted. Someone like that doesn't deserve to have her movie seen.
@@misterae6430 a film is made of hundreds of people all working together to tell one story. When all those people work together for the best outcome, the best outcome occurs. But if the people who take the spotlight and attention end up doing stupid things hurting those people, The teamwork is compromised. The CGI artists, audio, mixers, lighting, and other behind-the-scenes departments did not hurt their careers by Cynthia’s comment, but they were already paid. An animator who does good work on bad animated films is just a regular person doing a job. Just because people worked hard and to produce this movie does not mean they are entitled to success.
I was wondering if it was just me, that I had finally gotten old enough to lose touch with current-day beauty standards. But yeah, I found her incredibly unattractive, but I'm glad it's not just me.
Which please even if Elphaba was real she wouldn’t need her help. 😂 Elphaba is an abusive murderer in the books so yeah I’m kind of tired of this oh she’s so sweet. No she was a horrible person that was kind of the point.
@ninjagirl226 The musical turned her into a sympathetic heroine. Instead of "Wizard of Oz gone dark," it became, "Wicked Witch was misunderstood". Still, I kinda liked how the musical showed the limits of activism, especially when you push other people away.
She didn’t have a human moment she had a tantrum. She tried to garner oppression points, and it backfired. Will it affect the movie? I don’t believe so. Just like any other fanbase, most of the fans will still give the support of a first time movie adaptation of their franchise.
Thank the good Lord, the majority of people see this for what it is, but then you’ve got her army telling all of us that we were never really apologize for.
This was a niche broadway show now made in an even more niche musical movie and the BEST idea of a reaction to a FAN edited poster was to attack that person and cry racism? THIS, Hollywood, THIS is why no one wants to consume your product in any significant numbers. Skip this movie.
Excuse me? Have you been living under the rock in the past 2 decades? Wicked was definitely NOT a “niche” broadway show. In fact quite the opposite it was and still is one of the most popular and bestselling broadway musical of all time. I haven never seen a broadway show but even I know about this. It’s one thing to bash the actress’s behavior but saying the musical was niche just shows how ignorant you are.
@@bochenggu1439 it is a 100% niche, anything broadway is niche. you can't compare the reach of these things to something that goes world wide like marvel or star wars. broadway is only interesting for american upperclass
Musicals have never been more than a niche thing. The musical theater business, like the overall live theatrical and dance business, is set in its ways and doesn’t change easily. In the U.S. the overall industry focus is on 41 addresses in a relatively small area of Manhattan. Being in a Broadway theater is considered to be the pinnacle of success. As fabulous as it can be, there’s an absolute limit on the number of people who can attend. The price barrier is significant too. The average person cannot afford a ticket to a Broadway show even if transportation and lodging costs are ignored. Broadway has priced itself into a corner. Only the elite can attend. My opinion is that to compete with forms of entertainment that are cheaper and less passive, live theatre has to expand its reach and lower its costs. It’s a complicated challenge but involves the disruption of the current “machine” and a rethinking of how the business can best serve both audience and artists. The business needs to innovate and find a better way of using all the talent in the pool. Only about 2% of professional performers are able to make a living in the industry. Expanding opportunities (as is happening in the film/tv industries) is the key to expanding the audience field of view beyond Broadway and London. In the 2023-2024 season, Broadway shows sold approximately $1.54 billion worth of tickets and had an attendance of about 12.3 million. This was similar to the 2022-2023 season, which also saw about $1.58 billion in ticket sales and 12.2 million attendees. The average price of a ticket for a Broadway musical in 2023-2024 was around $128.50, which was a 4.6% decrease from the previous season. In 2023, movie theaters in the United States and Canada sold about 830 million tickets, which is an increase from the previous year's total of just over 700 million. The average ticket price in 2023 was $10.78.
@@bochenggu1439 HAHAHA...you've never seen a Broadway show....yep, my point exactly? Sure, you've heard of it, so what? You never saw it anymore than you've heard of Cats but never seen it? Broadway shows are, by definition, niche. Understand now ahole keyboard warrior?
The fact that the studios don't have a clause that prohibits female actors from talking about their ideologies, in the same breath as the movies or tv-series they're supposed to do PR for, is an enigma in itself, considering the financial devastation so many of them have caused so far. Must be a constant nuisance to have to deal with, when your hired pretenders have bigger mouths than brains, and won't even try to make an effort to control both.
My mother always told me: "Don't let bullies get to you, they're just jealous and/or bored of what you got that they don't have, instead ignore them and they'll soon be bored of you" These days its the opposite, you ignore them they get upset and hurt because they're not being heard. I'm just glad im not like these people and I that i was raised better then to lash out at something so random and then make it about me.
Agent only? The movie director and maybe 1 person from the production company who paid for the movie. If one dollar is missing from the budget projection they expect to make, she'll be blamed for it.
That was a non-apology and that interviewer was lame too. "That was a cartoon animation"? He has no idea what he is talking about and his tone when he says that, as if to belittle the iconic poster. Also, what would talking to her friends is going to do? She's just going to get the same feedback that this guy gave her. "Yeah! You should clap back! That was a cartoon animation".
I saw the her staement and she does NOT regret attacking fans. The only thing she talked about was her and her emotional status, because that is all that's important to her. "It''s, fine...I should have called my friends." If she had them to call, she would have in the first place. Human moment...most humans don't act like that after a certain age.
I didn't even know this existed before the drama, and the more I pay attention the more I hear wicked is steeped in despicable practices and behaviour. So no I won't see it.
Years ago, there was a copy in the doctor's office. I got about 20 pages in and put it back down. I recently watched a critics review of the book and movie. I'm tired of villians being made out to really be sweet but misunderstood nasty deviants.☹️
@@RanMouri82 exactly I mean, let’s be real. If Ariana Grande had made this complaint if herself had made this complaint neither of them would be valid, but supposed to blindly believe.
I'm one of those who want to see this movie fail. I'm so damn tired of actors, studios, and directors attacking fans. No more. They must learn that they need fans. WE DO NOT NEED THEM.
Who tried to spin this as an apology?? That interview straight up the guy was praising her "standing up" about it, and she agrees, that she was "protecting little Elphaba", that's not a soft apology admittance of a "human moment", she's flat out justifying it
This is something I've seen IRL as well. Having a huge meltdown and then calling it a "human moment." Mf, no, that's not a human moment. That's a child moment.
she got shown the ORIGINAL poster the modern rework by a fan that WAS flattering to her as it removed the previous gormless expression and asked if she would like to continue acting or be the next Zellweger?
No intention of seeing the movie now. Told the wife she can watch it with friends. Refuse to spend my money on these people that are stuck up narcissist.
She has to use a metaphor for artillery or fire arms or something because cameras are nothing more than masters' tools of violence and oppression. Standing in front of them, playing make believe pays well...but pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
Even when she admits fault, she can’t be upfront and say I’m sorry. Seriously WTF is wrong with these people?! They want to call us chuds, yazis and most deplorable name under the sun while proclaiming how good they are and yet when they make a mistake folks like Cynthia can’t just say I am sorry for trashing a fan? Worse is the interviewer just egging her on. This is why it’s hard to feel sympathetic to these celebs. So arrogant and narcissistic in their views. The only folks I feel sorry for are the below the line workers who actually just want to work and provide.
The only thing I am curious about with this movie is how the hell they changed a 3 hour play (with a bunch of breaks in it for scenes) into a six hour movie. Not enough to see it, of course, but this has Hobbit vibes of dragging something out beyond sense.
7:20 - Regarding the "push" for witches. This has been ongoing for some time. There's a segment of wine ladies who _really_ like to fashion themselves as witches for some reason. It's like all the mid-millenials who grew up on the Craft, Buffy, etc are now adults and just... want it in everything, all the time. This is a pretty crappy explanation but as a 43 year old women who is very crafty - it's in _everything._ Sewing patterns, fabric, cross stitch, knitting, crochet, canning, gardening. It's literally _everywhere._ I'm a Christian who used to be quite deep into the occult and honestly, it's hard to not notice once you're aware of it.
Two fans were slapped by her, and one of them, the one who did the repost, even received threats. And this poor excuse of a human didn't even bother to send some form of apology to the reposter or even a message to her followers not to threaten or harrass the reposter whom she's thrown under the bus by copy-pasting their IG name. How uncultured!
I wasn't going to watch for Hollywood remakes of popular musicals are done in a way where the musical performance is made to subvert audiences expectations.
I can't wait for those DEI-hires in ET to get replaced by AI. I'm just so DONE with idiots like that reporter. 'So much support' over her 'clap-back'? It's no wonder these actors think the world revolves around them - the entire entertainment industry, from the 'reporters' to the actors themselves, exist in an echo chamber. That reporter really thought the world was siding with her.
It's like saying sorry, not sorry. The damage was already done. It's too if not WAY too late to be truly sorry. She and other celebrities (Zegler, Lively, Larson, Stenberg for example) need to realize and fast that there are consequences to their actions (box office slumps and notorious amounts of backlash among fans) and they need to stop this behavior.
@heidijanuary3286 I already saw the broadway show and my Mother god rest her soul, played the songs from the show on the piano growing up since she was a music teacher so I passed on this when I first took a glimpse at the trailer and when my fiancé broke the news about Arianna Grande being a homewrecker while doing this movie.
Trigger happy Modern Hollywood smh. This is what you get when you over prepare for "haters" that never showed up in the first place. Which just further makes the point that this was a film created to stir racial tensions.
The AI aspect is a red herring. Her original rant referred to an AI-generated joke video of the 2 witches fighting. But this poster was NOT AI-generated. It was created by a fan, "a real live human being" whom Erivo callously dragged into the social media arena for a public thrashing. This could have resulted in the fan being swarmed and doxxed by Erivo's supporters, and her life made miserable. Just a few years ago, that would have been the case, but barely-known actors hurling accusations don't have the same clout they once did. Erivo is trying to minimize her cruelty by pretending that she was just attacking some robot, not a human being.
Technically, this is a tripping down. The doubling down came when she did that interview with Renee Rapp or she went on and on and on and on about how she’s the best wicked witch on the wicked witch of the west on the planet because she’s black and queer.
I am convinced, that either her or her management told the studio you have to show my complete face. The diva vibes exude off of her. Before this controversy I had never even heard of her before. Her ego is writing checks her acting can't cash.
Well the timing is good. It definitely doesn't appear she's been forced to do this... And also any advice from her PR people to not constantly mention herself in her apology... well, okay.
Narcissists don't know "regret", they only realise "Consequences? I hate consequences!!!".
So does Rachel Zegler.
@@theequalizer9154Yep, she’s a Rachel Zegler. Have we seen any male versions? I can only think of women doing this (and a few gay men)
@@Catherine.Dorian. John Leguizamo for sure.
@@Catherine.Dorian. Patrick Stewart is another one.
No, they only understand “optics”.
“My manager told me to apologize, but I am not actually sorry.”
☝🏻
Knowing that interview where she said that Elphaba is like her now, I believe that she was forced to apologize after her tantrum, if Cynthia would get away with hers, she weren't apologize with nobody.
sorry till next time!
She meant every word she said and doesn't regret a single syllable. She regrets getting scolded by the studio.
Too many modern women refuse to take any responsibility and accountability for their emotional actions.
I completely agree with you and that was not an apology that was in. It wasn’t my fault type of thing that’s all that was.
And she’s probably afraid it’ll hurt the box office. But all she did was expose herself as a toxic person I won’t be supporting
You people are ridiculous. She doesn't need to apologize. What she said was harmless. So let it go.
What do you mean "You people"? 🤣🤣
In the old days, Actors had PR agents to suggest what they should and shouldn't say in public to protect their image. But now, thanks to social media, we can all see what horrible excuses for human beings they truly are.
Another reason why Hollywood is burning.
Obligatory "'ELLO YOU!"
when i was growing up people had mid to high opinion of most stars now my same family couldn't care less if HW dropped off the plate in next tectonic sparing match the planet will have
@Larry
Most of the new actresses before 2015 undergoes some sort of seminar on how to carry themselves in public.
But youre right, giving them access to social media to interact with the public is a huge mistake.
You arent wrong , mr Bundy. You are not wrong.
Fancy seeing you here Guru Larry. You are correct prior to Social Media people kept their mouths shut and had PR agents handle the stuff now they get triggered so easily that they shit their stuff all over the internet for everybody to see.
The idol worship of the interviewer is a big part of the problem with these narcissists.
Yeah that was just gross.
yeah, what a bunch of idiots
Probably made to act that way. It was scripted, as always the case in these "interviews". PR was desperately trying to downplay the issue but still keep the "modernAudience" satisfied.
Oh my God, I noticed that too the entire time and then she gives authentic disingenuous ““ apology which really isn’t an apology.
@@Leamichellefan2244 It was her justification. The interviewer praised her for it and she replied with her justification. This is not regret. This is not an apology. The fact that they are trying to twist it into something it clearly isn't should be put "On Blast" as much as she is.
Even if she genuinely apologises for this, I'd wager it's too late. People are beyond tired of this behaviour.
she'd has the mindset of being easily offended has clout ... cause of her being bl@ck. justifying her biting the hamds that feeds her (in this case, indirectly fans).
probably not someone people like to hang out with.
She will not genuinely apologize. She should be humbled, and I hope she is humbled.
These actors, once they think they have success, their egos become incredibly large, and obnoxious.
No the woke will still continue to run everything
Absolutely.
Yeah, not going to watch this film.
"Trying to protect little Elphaba..." She wasn't trying to protect anything but her outsized ego.
Feels like she got read the riot act by the studio and got told to fix this shit.
"I'm not sorry. I'm just sorry you feel that way."
The fact that she tripped so hard over a FAN MADE POSTER is just so ridiculous.
She thought she could get some victim cred. It's pure cynicism.
Yeah the only people who WHERE going to see the movie 😂 Not anymore
Especially one made out of love and care for the material
Never mind the fact that this wasn’t an apology this was just a justification for oh look at me. I can say whatever I want and then like somebody else said I don’t know if you seen that interview with that other lady who basically just kissed her weird like this guy is doing better. It’s sickening.
What bothers me more than the outburst is she put that fan account on blast and before it got more wider known and criticized there were people who rushed to attack the person who owns that account and call them racist.
"It is not my fault I was just protecting the character." Except that is not at all what she said in her unhinged statement.
She's either insane... she identifies with a fictional evil witch with green skin... or she doesn't understand she was protecting herself... it "Demeaned" HER, not the evil witch of west. Actresses in Modern Hollywood are downright creepy at times. It makes me wonder what they really do on the nights of the full moon!
She never apologized. And her subsequent interview with that other woman simping desperately for her, she continues to say its all about her. Keep her cancelled.
Oh my God yes, she never apologized. This was a BS justification and yes, that other interview where she just went on and on and on and on about how it’s all about her oh my God and the sad part is I don’t think she’s done yet. I don’t think we’ve heard the last of her or her little army of sycophants.
There's a movie I have no interest in.
Join the club.
In her defense, I suspect the majority here were not the right customer base in the first place. But who knows? Perhaps the term toxic musical fans is starting to appear in the debate.
She's typical. Very tiresome and sickening perpetual victim class.
ET just affirmed her… there is zero apology… no regret! Eff these Entitled pricks. QUIT BUYING THEIR CRAP, don’t see the film!!
this is the reason you don't hire adults whom have never lived as an adult in the real world.
They are adults who live in a world of make believe from the time they get up until they go to bed every day.
She is still a spoiled rich brat. Which is concerning. There are movies about spoiled kids and teenagers learning to become humble and responsible people who take accountability for their actions and behavior at the end of the film. But I guess it's just movies. Because IRL, they never learn.
It’s already too late. She buzzkilled the hype, and there’s nothing they can do to fully make amend with the fanbase before release. The awkwardness has settled in.
One asshole killed an entire party.
Nah , everything about this is junk .
Septum rings are a strong positive indicator for mental illness.
So is WILLINGLY shaving off your eyebrows.
Definitely a sign to keep your distance.
They're great for leading cattle around, though!
I mean this funny cause I have mental health and recently got a septum piercing, but you don't see me attacking fans for doing a fan made art for poster on film based on Broadway musical.
So not really a sign that they have mental health issues, it's just how some people are when their feelings get hurt and no one cares and can't just let it go.
Why do people even specify them as septum rings? Nose rings in general are a giant red flag for women and anything else that aren't cows.
It's too late. She's already shown her true colors (so to speak).
Beauty is Only Skin Deep...
But ugly is to the Bone.
Love it. So Joan Rivers
"...a human moment of wanting to protect little Elphaba..."
Oh, no no no. The fan poster erased YOU. It degraded YOU. Not once in your screed did you ever mention anything about the character.
Yes. How was she defending the CHARACTER in any way? She wasn't, she got butthurt because the edit somehow "erased" her because it hid her eyes, while she was just having empty stare in that image. I could not pick any emotions or thoughts from her face unlike from the musical poster. It's a generic blank stare.
Exactly. She talked about being an actress and looking down the barrel of a camera. It was all about the actress, not the character she's now trying to use as cover for her outburst.
@@tubetorpedothe captain marvel look
Spot on!
"Looking down the barrel of a camera"....it says CANON on the side, not CANNON....they need to rename this movie Thick-ed....
It doesn't sound much like regret to me.
I see no apology, no accountability.
The ET reporter in the footage also went full fan hatred.
Exactly she’s not sorry he’s not sorry he spent the whole time kissing her rear and if you want to see any more evidence of that nonsense look at the interview she did with Renee Rapp now that’s just vomit.
This movie deserves to flop because of her actions. I can't stand an entitled narcissist.
I couldn’t agree more.
you people are all so butthurt and don't even see how everyone is over reacting. Yoou should know that many people have put their time and effort in this movie, to boycot the movie based on one reaction of one person is disrespcting everyone else that has worked on it and put their love in it.
@misterae6430 😂😂 when the lead actress scolds a fan for her art...yeah she deserves to be boycotted. Someone like that doesn't deserve to have her movie seen.
@@misterae6430 a film is made of hundreds of people all working together to tell one story. When all those people work together for the best outcome, the best outcome occurs. But if the people who take the spotlight and attention end up doing stupid things hurting those people, The teamwork is compromised. The CGI artists, audio, mixers, lighting, and other behind-the-scenes departments did not hurt their careers by Cynthia’s comment, but they were already paid. An animator who does good work on bad animated films is just a regular person doing a job. Just because people worked hard and to produce this movie does not mean they are entitled to success.
Not just her actions. What about the homewrecker too? She’s the worst of them both, in my opinion. They’re both full of themselves.
She’s sorry about the reaction, not what she said
Cynthia Erivo has a lot of pride, especially for being a value-brand actress no one's ever heard of before this debacle.
And hopefully, will never be heard from again.
Couldn't they find an attractive black women to paint green?
No male gaze, I guess.
@@MidnightsEdge that's nothing new by now. but as female i don't like looking at her either
Attractive women are problematic and "misogynist" nowadays.
Nia Long......
I was wondering if it was just me, that I had finally gotten old enough to lose touch with current-day beauty standards. But yeah, I found her incredibly unattractive, but I'm glad it's not just me.
"wanting to protect little Elphaba"
Witch please, ELPHABA AIN'T REAL!!!
elphaba was also depicted as the original poster for DECADES
Which please even if Elphaba was real she wouldn’t need her help. 😂
Elphaba is an abusive murderer in the books so yeah I’m kind of tired of this oh she’s so sweet. No she was a horrible person that was kind of the point.
Did we really need a movie at all about the witches?
@@sethputnamsghost No
@ninjagirl226 The musical turned her into a sympathetic heroine. Instead of "Wizard of Oz gone dark," it became, "Wicked Witch was misunderstood". Still, I kinda liked how the musical showed the limits of activism, especially when you push other people away.
She didn’t have a human moment she had a tantrum. She tried to garner oppression points, and it backfired. Will it affect the movie? I don’t believe so. Just like any other fanbase, most of the fans will still give the support of a first time movie adaptation of their franchise.
"I am a human... hissss.... i had a human moment... hisssss.... fellow humans"
Well I won't. Skipping this movie
Thank the good Lord, the majority of people see this for what it is, but then you’ve got her army telling all of us that we were never really apologize for.
This was a niche broadway show now made in an even more niche musical movie and the BEST idea of a reaction to a FAN edited poster was to attack that person and cry racism? THIS, Hollywood, THIS is why no one wants to consume your product in any significant numbers. Skip this movie.
Excuse me? Have you been living under the rock in the past 2 decades? Wicked was definitely NOT a “niche” broadway show. In fact quite the opposite it was and still is one of the most popular and bestselling broadway musical of all time. I haven never seen a broadway show but even I know about this. It’s one thing to bash the actress’s behavior but saying the musical was niche just shows how ignorant you are.
Most definite skip.
@@bochenggu1439 it is a 100% niche, anything broadway is niche. you can't compare the reach of these things to something that goes world wide like marvel or star wars. broadway is only interesting for american upperclass
Musicals have never been more than a niche thing. The musical theater business, like the overall live theatrical and dance business, is set in its ways and doesn’t change easily. In the U.S. the overall industry focus is on 41 addresses in a relatively small area of Manhattan. Being in a Broadway theater is considered to be the pinnacle of success. As fabulous as it can be, there’s an absolute limit on the number of people who can attend.
The price barrier is significant too. The average person cannot afford a ticket to a Broadway show even if transportation and lodging costs are ignored. Broadway has priced itself into a corner. Only the elite can attend.
My opinion is that to compete with forms of entertainment that are cheaper and less passive, live theatre has to expand its reach and lower its costs. It’s a complicated challenge but involves the disruption of the current “machine” and a rethinking of how the business can best serve both audience and artists.
The business needs to innovate and find a better way of using all the talent in the pool. Only about 2% of professional performers are able to make a living in the industry. Expanding opportunities (as is happening in the film/tv industries) is the key to expanding the audience field of view beyond Broadway and London.
In the 2023-2024 season, Broadway shows sold approximately $1.54 billion worth of tickets and had an attendance of about 12.3 million. This was similar to the 2022-2023 season, which also saw about $1.58 billion in ticket sales and 12.2 million attendees.
The average price of a ticket for a Broadway musical in 2023-2024 was around $128.50, which was a 4.6% decrease from the previous season.
In 2023, movie theaters in the United States and Canada sold about 830 million tickets, which is an increase from the previous year's total of just over 700 million. The average ticket price in 2023 was $10.78.
@@bochenggu1439 HAHAHA...you've never seen a Broadway show....yep, my point exactly? Sure, you've heard of it, so what? You never saw it anymore than you've heard of Cats but never seen it? Broadway shows are, by definition, niche. Understand now ahole keyboard warrior?
The fact that the studios don't have a clause that prohibits female actors from talking about their ideologies, in the same breath as the movies or tv-series they're supposed to do PR for, is an enigma in itself, considering the financial devastation so many of them have caused so far. Must be a constant nuisance to have to deal with, when your hired pretenders have bigger mouths than brains, and won't even try to make an effort to control both.
She looks purely evil. Movie looks awful.
That movie deserves to flop and make of her a walking red flag for every movie.
Zero regrets, narcissists are incapable of regret.
Translation: The studio told me they'd sue the shit out of me for tanking our shitty movie single handedly and now I'm desperate to avoid that.
One has to wonder how this and similar 'star' driven controversies are going to work their way into future contracts.
Human moment I call bullshit arrogance is more like it
"I'm sorry I'm just human" isn't a real apology in the first place.
I would call it that nobody from the staff took seriously her whim and tantrum.
My mother always told me: "Don't let bullies get to you, they're just jealous and/or bored of what you got that they don't have, instead ignore them and they'll soon be bored of you"
These days its the opposite, you ignore them they get upset and hurt because they're not being heard.
I'm just glad im not like these people and I that i was raised better then to lash out at something so random and then make it about me.
She doesn't need to "protect" Elphaba from the fans. The fans need to protect Elphaba from actors.
Her agent probably gave her a call...
Agent only? The movie director and maybe 1 person from the production company who paid for the movie. If one dollar is missing from the budget projection they expect to make, she'll be blamed for it.
Her job is to erase herself and leave only the character. It's called acting, something she has very little experience.
Exactly and every other lady on the Broadway stage West End wherever black white or otherwise knows that has known that this woman doesn’t.
Did she even say the words, “I’m sorry”?
No!
It’s NOT a real person. It’s a made up character in a made up story.
and she has been depicted with the hat and the smirk for decades with no issue
It's amazing how many times she confused the word narcissist for "Pasionate".
Well, I know of 8 people in my circle who like Wicked who WON'T be seeing the movie.
narcissists be narcissising. and hollywood is full of narcissists
That was a non-apology and that interviewer was lame too. "That was a cartoon animation"? He has no idea what he is talking about and his tone when he says that, as if to belittle the iconic poster. Also, what would talking to her friends is going to do? She's just going to get the same feedback that this guy gave her. "Yeah! You should clap back! That was a cartoon animation".
That is why everybody outside of woke vacumn can't stand them.
I saw the her staement and she does NOT regret attacking fans. The only thing she talked about was her and her emotional status, because that is all that's important to her.
"It''s, fine...I should have called my friends." If she had them to call, she would have in the first place.
Human moment...most humans don't act like that after a certain age.
That wasn't a Q and A. That was ET giving her the answer they wanted to their own question, and her simply saying "Yes, that's right."
"I'm sorry my words hurt you, not my fault, it's all on you."
I can't wait to NOT see this movie
I'm already not seeing it 😁👍
She doesn't understand why what she did was wrong. She only understands carrot and stick.
I didn't even know this existed before the drama, and the more I pay attention the more I hear wicked is steeped in despicable practices and behaviour. So no I won't see it.
Years ago, there was a copy in the doctor's office. I got about 20 pages in and put it back down.
I recently watched a critics review of the book and movie. I'm tired of villians being made out to really be sweet but misunderstood nasty deviants.☹️
She was not just off the track, or in the field, she was 2 fields over off the track.
She let feelings dictate judgment, which means she had none.
She took the focus off the movie and the rest of the actors and their performances and made it ALL ABOUT HER. How WICKED is that?!
She actually tried to pull the "I'm only human after all" meme in real life 😂😂😂
If Margaret Hamilton was alive and said that Erivo was erasing her, would she be valid???
No, because Margaret Hamilton would be called "pale and stale". 🙄
@RanMouri82 😅😅😅 facts.
More than likely not, and we all know why.
@@RanMouri82 exactly I mean, let’s be real. If Ariana Grande had made this complaint if herself had made this complaint neither of them would be valid, but supposed to blindly believe.
She responded to it like it was a troll, but she just killed legitimate fan excitement.
I'm one of those who want to see this movie fail. I'm so damn tired of actors, studios, and directors attacking fans. No more. They must learn that they need fans. WE DO NOT NEED THEM.
Translation: The studio sat her down and told her they don't want another Snow White disaster. Too late, dear.
There is a difference between being told to apologize and wanting to apologize.
Who tried to spin this as an apology?? That interview straight up the guy was praising her "standing up" about it, and she agrees, that she was "protecting little Elphaba", that's not a soft apology admittance of a "human moment", she's flat out justifying it
If you’re getting approval from a celebrity “reporter” like that, then you’ve done something truly evil.
This is something I've seen IRL as well. Having a huge meltdown and then calling it a "human moment." Mf, no, that's not a human moment. That's a child moment.
Wicked PART 1??
Wait, they're making this into a multi-part movie?! Oh hell no.
she got shown the ORIGINAL poster
the modern rework by a fan that WAS flattering to her as it removed the previous gormless expression
and asked if she would like to continue acting or be the next Zellweger?
I'm truly sick of these whiney actors "stars" simply walking out of their mansions? seeing the sun and complaining that it was degrading and racists.
This first movie may not flop. But part 2 for sure. Not for her actions, but because general audience won't go back for a second time
CATs Flopped! Part Deux!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I TEND TO BELIEVE HER FIRST OUTBURST MORE THAN HER "SORRY-NOT-SORRY" STATEMENT...
The red lipstick was fire
I feel bad for the fan
Amazing, she said so many words but none of them were an apology.
No intention of seeing the movie now. Told the wife she can watch it with friends. Refuse to spend my money on these people that are stuck up narcissist.
Wait?! Wicked PART ONE?
Yep, they Hobbit'd it.
What @cormoran2303 said - expect bloat like you ahve no idea.
Has anyone told her that cameras don't have a "barrel" yet? That's a "lens", honey.
She has to use a metaphor for artillery or fire arms or something because cameras are nothing more than masters' tools of violence and oppression. Standing in front of them, playing make believe pays well...but pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
Even when she admits fault, she can’t be upfront and say I’m sorry. Seriously WTF is wrong with these people?! They want to call us chuds, yazis and most deplorable name under the sun while proclaiming how good they are and yet when they make a mistake folks like Cynthia can’t just say I am sorry for trashing a fan? Worse is the interviewer just egging her on. This is why it’s hard to feel sympathetic to these celebs. So arrogant and narcissistic in their views. The only folks I feel sorry for are the below the line workers who actually just want to work and provide.
The only thing I am curious about with this movie is how the hell they changed a 3 hour play (with a bunch of breaks in it for scenes) into a six hour movie. Not enough to see it, of course, but this has Hobbit vibes of dragging something out beyond sense.
Thanks.
7:20 - Regarding the "push" for witches. This has been ongoing for some time. There's a segment of wine ladies who _really_ like to fashion themselves as witches for some reason. It's like all the mid-millenials who grew up on the Craft, Buffy, etc are now adults and just... want it in everything, all the time. This is a pretty crappy explanation but as a 43 year old women who is very crafty - it's in _everything._ Sewing patterns, fabric, cross stitch, knitting, crochet, canning, gardening. It's literally _everywhere._ I'm a Christian who used to be quite deep into the occult and honestly, it's hard to not notice once you're aware of it.
I can't be the only bloke out here hoping this movie bombs at the box office.
I have seen Wicked three times on tour and one time in NYC. I am confused as to why she wanted to be shown with green lipstick and not red?
Two fans were slapped by her, and one of them, the one who did the repost, even received threats. And this poor excuse of a human didn't even bother to send some form of apology to the reposter or even a message to her followers not to threaten or harrass the reposter whom she's thrown under the bus by copy-pasting their IG name. How uncultured!
This seems to imply that all the talented women that played Elphaba on the stage are not humans?
Cynthia got it twisted with her whirlwind celebrity these past few years. Many ppl still have no idea who she is. She's not a star-STAR.
I wasn't going to watch for Hollywood remakes of popular musicals are done in a way where the musical performance is made to subvert audiences expectations.
These people are full of themselves. I've never heard of any of them
In the movie poster Erivo is also scowling, at the viewer, like a baboon. It's s an awful look for anyone.
I can't wait for those DEI-hires in ET to get replaced by AI. I'm just so DONE with idiots like that reporter. 'So much support' over her 'clap-back'? It's no wonder these actors think the world revolves around them - the entire entertainment industry, from the 'reporters' to the actors themselves, exist in an echo chamber. That reporter really thought the world was siding with her.
It's like saying sorry, not sorry. The damage was already done. It's too if not WAY too late to be truly sorry. She and other celebrities (Zegler, Lively, Larson, Stenberg for example) need to realize and fast that there are consequences to their actions (box office slumps and notorious amounts of backlash among fans) and they need to stop this behavior.
Yes. I will skip this movie
@heidijanuary3286 I already saw the broadway show and my Mother god rest her soul, played the songs from the show on the piano growing up since she was a music teacher so I passed on this when I first took a glimpse at the trailer and when my fiancé broke the news about Arianna Grande being a homewrecker while doing this movie.
Zero self reflection apparent. Only a diva's best attempt at defusing customer upset.
Trigger happy Modern Hollywood smh. This is what you get when you over prepare for "haters" that never showed up in the first place. Which just further makes the point that this was a film created to stir racial tensions.
She lost the movie hundreds of millions just for being entitled
0:00 “what the hell is even that ?!”
The AI aspect is a red herring. Her original rant referred to an AI-generated joke video of the 2 witches fighting. But this poster was NOT AI-generated. It was created by a fan, "a real live human being" whom Erivo callously dragged into the social media arena for a public thrashing. This could have resulted in the fan being swarmed and doxxed by Erivo's supporters, and her life made miserable. Just a few years ago, that would have been the case, but barely-known actors hurling accusations don't have the same clout they once did. Erivo is trying to minimize her cruelty by pretending that she was just attacking some robot, not a human being.
7:04 I can feel the smug in this scene
She's no Elphaba that I'm going to fondly remember. I'm definitely not interested in her narcissistic 'performance' now.
This wasent an apology this was a doubling down
Technically, this is a tripping down. The doubling down came when she did that interview with Renee Rapp or she went on and on and on and on about how she’s the best wicked witch on the wicked witch of the west on the planet because she’s black and queer.
Have I lost interest and hype for that movie?
Not a bit.
I never had any.
Still don't have.
Pass.
I am convinced, that either her or her management told the studio you have to show my complete face. The diva vibes exude off of her. Before this controversy I had never even heard of her before. Her ego is writing checks her acting can't cash.
Wasn't going to see it before. Not going to see it now.
Well, I know where my $20 won't go...
Well the timing is good. It definitely doesn't appear she's been forced to do this...
And also any advice from her PR people to not constantly mention herself in her apology... well, okay.
Imagine being this naive. You are the problem.
@@JM-qn3tf
Red carpet reporters are supposed to simp for the people walking it. It’s the protocol of Hollywood