Brian Windhorst OUTLINES the pitfalls of being the Lakers’ head coach 🍿 | Get Up

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  • On Get Up, Mike Greenberg is joined by Jay Williams, Tim Legler and Brian Windhorst to talk through what's next for the Lakers in regards to their head coaching search.
    0:00 Hear from Michael Wilbon on PTI
    0:30 Was Darvin Ham the Lakers’ scapegoat?
    3:40 Lakers’ prospects
    5:40 Windy floats a few potential options
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  • @danny5534
    @danny5534 29 днів тому +194

    I love how these "analysts" are saying the roster was flawed with a serious face when they were all singing praise for Rob Pelinka after the offseason. HYPOCRITES

    • @realamerican8069
      @realamerican8069 29 днів тому +16

      These clowns are paid to praise the Lakers..

    • @joebucketsTV
      @joebucketsTV 29 днів тому +9

      Nah they aren’t hypocrites, they just don’t know basketball at all. They’re casuals being paid to discuss something they have no idea about. Not saying everyone who has played basketball at a high-level can break it down analytically, but MOST can do it better than someone who’s never dribbled a ball in their life (edit: J-Will is often a hypocrite though like you said)

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot 29 днів тому +2

      I love how y'all think someone should get credit off an early season prediction when it fizzles...yet again... in the playoffs. Pelinka gets some blame but this nonsense all started when they went all in on Westbrook and that was LeBron's doing much as anyone

    • @realamerican8069
      @realamerican8069 29 днів тому +4

      @@I.am_Groot naw! Rob didn’t want to pay rondo, Dwight or McGee so they settled for Westbrook..

    • @imaginatewithdad-n-me5245
      @imaginatewithdad-n-me5245 29 днів тому +1

      Absolutely. They picked the Lakers to be 2nd under Nuggets

  • @kingridwan
    @kingridwan 29 днів тому +27

    Finally someone acknowledging Ham rotation problem. Jay W!

    • @ryanbarnes840
      @ryanbarnes840 29 днів тому

      THAT ALONE DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM. Stop trying to pretend like you know what you're talking about.

    • @karanbird239
      @karanbird239 29 днів тому +4

      @@ryanbarnes840 yes that alone doesnt there are other things like lack of timeouts when the other team goes on runs and inability to make in game adjustments. 100% of blame should not go on Darvin but i feel that another coach would clean up some of these voids that Darvin had, and it may have just been becuz of his experience level coming into the job

    • @jusbertmeza4424
      @jusbertmeza4424 23 дні тому

      @@karanbird239 casuals only watch highlights and pretend to know what they are talking about. Darvin Ham was THE problem for the lakers this year. He had terrible lineups trying to “experiment in game” with wing only lineups with Bron running point. He never bothered to try to play Wood and AD together. When AD had the few games he missed he started JAXSON HAYES over Christian Wood. He started Tauren Prince with 38 min games over Rui Hachimura for the first 50 games with like 8pts a game and Rui was outscoring him with only 12mins a game. Oh and thats before i even get to hes the worst game manager Ive ever seen he regularly lost games with big leads and several unused timeouts and challenges. The Denver series just showed everyone else the small improvements they could’ve made to change the whole series.

  • @FreshWitcher
    @FreshWitcher 29 днів тому +30

    Kobe on ESPN: "I've known for a long time that they're a bunch of idiots."

    • @Ayo_Bruh22
      @Ayo_Bruh22 29 днів тому +1

      Na lebum and ADisney is the problem and the roster filled with nobodies

    • @anthonyames6708
      @anthonyames6708 26 днів тому

      Lebron and ad not the problem it’s management

  • @Daausby
    @Daausby 29 днів тому +98

    Finally an analyst is saying what others are afraid to say!…it’s about time!

    • @samcar2724
      @samcar2724 29 днів тому +26

      You didn't watch the Lakers lil bro clearly

    • @jamaledwards4755
      @jamaledwards4755 29 днів тому +15

      @@samcar2724I watched the Lakers all season. Im a die hard Lakers fan. Lebron and AD need to take accountability. So be quiet, you don’t know basketball. Lebron doesn’t like to be held accountable.

    • @thedragonarmy4700
      @thedragonarmy4700 29 днів тому +13

      You clearly didn’t watch the lakers. Wilbon should have some idea what context is. I could write 7 paragraphs on my why as a bad coach.

    • @filippobacci3443
      @filippobacci3443 29 днів тому +5

      ​@@jamaledwards4755you saw the two stars play almost 80 game, average over 25 ppg+ while having to play in lineups constisting of CAM reddish and Vanderbilt. Every LA beatwriter posted articles abt literally the entire Locker room coaching themselves to finish the season cause all ham would say was that they needed to play harder, faster ecc. Roster was flawed but he's not and NBA level coach. Both things can be true

    • @pavlegrebenarevic382
      @pavlegrebenarevic382 29 днів тому +1

      @@jamaledwards4755 If you watched the games you'd knew how bad Ham is

  • @kingofjune
    @kingofjune 29 днів тому +101

    Personally, I think LeCoach is the best hire for the Lakers available.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 29 днів тому +2

      Personally, Id much rather see LeSkippy Bayless or one of his wannabes get the job. You know you guys are desperate to get close to Bron. Hes your obsession. lol

    • @Desnond
      @Desnond 29 днів тому

      @@Nostalgia9478 🤡

    • @Maxrepfitgm
      @Maxrepfitgm 29 днів тому

      You're pathetic ​@@Nostalgia9478

    • @kingofjune
      @kingofjune 29 днів тому +2

      @@Nostalgia9478 I agree, LeSkip would tell LeBron every game to "punish down low and penetrate everyone down the lane"

    • @Maxrepfitgm
      @Maxrepfitgm 29 днів тому

      ​@@Nostalgia9478Says the guy who is obsessed with protecting Lebron

  • @CBabeey
    @CBabeey 29 днів тому +66

    Wilbon, like others in the media, don’t watch the games. They just talk. You can always tell. Anyone who watched all the Lakers games this season know Darvin Ham has cost the team some games this season. His lineups, rotations, not using timeouts when the other team goes on runs, his obsession with a 3 guard lineup, etc. Pelinka has a hand in this too, as he hasn’t done enough to build a better team. But the players frustrations with him are valid. Trying to blame Bron and AD for Ham’s lack of awareness is crazy.

    • @waynemyrie57
      @waynemyrie57 29 днів тому +2

      Exactly

    • @SolaceMcfly
      @SolaceMcfly 29 днів тому +5

      spittin this is why people are moving away from these media "analyst" its just talking points for views.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 29 днів тому +5

      A decent coach wouldve led the Lakers to 55+ wins this season

    • @113tmt
      @113tmt 29 днів тому +3

      @@SolaceMcfly Exactly why I tune into Lakersnation and listen to their take because like me they watch all the games and actually see the issues Darvin presented....awful at calling timeouts, bad at challenging, bad at rotations, bad at maximizing skillsets, etc. Yes, the players also had issues for sure but it was clear that Darvin cost them at least 3 to 6 more wins in the regular season and did his part in these two Denver series to cost them wins.

    • @thekingbradable
      @thekingbradable 29 днів тому +13

      So let’s go down the list
      Walton was the problem
      Vogel was the problem
      Ham was the problem
      Seems like the coach is always the scapegoat. Ever considered the Lakers just aren’t very good compared to the rest of the West?
      I’m sure in another two years you’ll be blaming the coach again. No accountability amongst Lakers fans and players. Sad.

  • @KozyKool2287
    @KozyKool2287 29 днів тому +7

    Man, no coach in their right mind is going to take this job because there is no job security.
    Firing a 2nd year coach for losing to the defending champs is wild.
    Nuggets were tied for the 2nd best record in the league, there is no shame in losing to them.

  • @waynemyrie57
    @waynemyrie57 29 днів тому +10

    Wilbon is emotional because him and D-Ham are friends. You can’t watch the Lakers and not clearly see they had bad coaching

    • @VENIICE999
      @VENIICE999 29 днів тому

      They might be secret twins

  • @IsHeARealOneVadaRealMC
    @IsHeARealOneVadaRealMC 29 днів тому +24

    Defending Darvin Ham is super proof that you didn’t watch Lakers games.

    • @ronm3034
      @ronm3034 29 днів тому +6

      And if you did you clearly see he has nothing to do with Lebron waiting till game 3 to drive the ball in the 4th quarter instead of settling for threes

    • @realamerican8069
      @realamerican8069 29 днів тому +2

      “Super proof” wow what a way to express yourself 😂

    • @ryanbarnes840
      @ryanbarnes840 29 днів тому

      Wrong. It's proof that you watch the games and realize that the Lakers stars were streaky all year...that's not coaching.

    • @justified004
      @justified004 29 днів тому +1

      ​@@ryanbarnes840wrong. No one is giving LeBron or AD a pass but Ham had a number of glaring issues. Horrible lineups, lack of adjustments, and poor game management. All those issues are on Ham and don't get me started on him being repeatedly outcoached or him repeatedly blowing leads all year.

    • @SportscadiaProductions
      @SportscadiaProductions 29 днів тому

      I put more blame on Lebron and Rob Pelinka

  • @pauladams2489
    @pauladams2489 29 днів тому +52

    They gotta fire their GM

    • @eddiethom4911
      @eddiethom4911 29 днів тому +13

      Lakers GM is LeBum

    • @Desnond
      @Desnond 29 днів тому +7

      Lakers fan don’t wanna talk about this…!

    • @DaReaperGang
      @DaReaperGang 29 днів тому +2

      @@eddiethom4911yeah that makes sense

    • @ronm3034
      @ronm3034 29 днів тому +1

      Exactly he hired a rookie head coach

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot 29 днів тому +3

      @@Desnond NBA fans just realize that Rob was not the guy pushing for that awful Westrbook trade. J Buss and LeBron been calling these big moves so firing the GM ain't changing anything

  • @Desnond
    @Desnond 29 днів тому +34

    Will Rob be held accountable…?will lakers fans keep the same energy with Rob…?

    • @mrgetitdone85
      @mrgetitdone85 29 днів тому +11

      According to lakers fans Rob had the best offseason… now everyone saying the roster is trash

    • @Commsense750
      @Commsense750 29 днів тому +7

      They can't. They are too busy saying Lebron runs everything. Lebron ok'd NOT originally hiring Ty Lue?
      They pick and choose when Rob is held accountable.

    • @xmobkilla9067
      @xmobkilla9067 29 днів тому +4

      You can't blam rob. Everybody said they had the best off-season. every show they were giving him A. Now he did a bad job. That makes no sense.

    • @Jay_Loading
      @Jay_Loading 29 днів тому

      Rob does a good job. Sure he’s made a couple mistakes (Not trading DLo at the deadline) but i think it’s cause of the 3 1sts situation (3 1st round picks available) Team looked good on paper at the beginning of the season then gave got injured and players like Taurean Prince and Cam Reddish were playing 30 min a game and starting

    • @theposterking3553
      @theposterking3553 29 днів тому +1

      I don't like A kobe guys running lebrons last years

  • @thepapichulo_07
    @thepapichulo_07 29 днів тому +43

    defending darvin ham is insane

    • @jamaledwards4755
      @jamaledwards4755 29 днів тому +10

      No it’s not fool. This is not all on Darvin. You don’t know basketball. Be quiet. Rob needs be fired and Lebron needs to take accountability.

    • @thedragonarmy4700
      @thedragonarmy4700 29 днів тому +1

      Just indoors who didn’t watch the games

    • @thedragonarmy4700
      @thedragonarmy4700 29 днів тому

      @@jamaledwards4755no dummy you don’t know basketball! Yes Rob needs to be fired too! Darvin was bad! Started Cam reddish for how many games? He’s not even an nba player at this point. Played T.prince all those starter minutes when he’s a good bench player. They had a horrible record then. When they switched to Rui then when like 27-6 or something. Why did he bench his best players in the beginning of the season. Why doesn’t he use his timeouts even tho he said he saved them so Lebron and AD can get rest. He still leaves games with both! I could go on and on….stop the nonsense. Why did he play Spencer and Gabe vs Denver 5 minutes each? Why not stick to 1 for 10minutes so at least 1 can get a rhythm. Why did reaves only play 34mins that last game when he was cooking? He gave Spencer those minutes. Even reaves on the beach was throwing his hands up saying “what are we doing here?”. Is there a reason the team would stop running plays every 3rd quarter in the playoffs??? They’d just be freelancing. That’s coaching! That’s why they lost all those leads! I watch every game.

    • @ronm3034
      @ronm3034 29 днів тому +1

      Thinking he the reason they lost is insane as well! Get help bruh

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 29 днів тому +2

      @@jamaledwards4755Youre clearly putting your butthurt feelings over the FACTS
      Dopey Darvin was BY FAR the WORST Nba head coach of all time whether you accept reality or not

  • @mykey06
    @mykey06 29 днів тому +6

    Roster flawed? Beginning of the summer they were like the Lakers won the free agency.

    • @derek4101
      @derek4101 29 днів тому

      And when they won the inaugural In season tournament, they were the team to beat in the West.

  • @bryanstarke2931
    @bryanstarke2931 29 днів тому +10

    We all know LeGM called Jeanie Buss and told her to instruct Pelinka to get rid of Ham. You know it, we all know it.

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot 29 днів тому

      Bron pushed for or at very least wanted the Westbrook move. Ham came along because no established coach wanted the job. This is and will be a 'Bron issue first and foremost

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 29 днів тому +2

      @@I.am_Groot If it was up to MJ, Charles Oakley never gets traded for Cartwright, and the Bulls never bring in Kukoc.. Jerry Krause ignored MJ
      Good Gms owners dont allow players to ductate moves. The Westbrick trade 100 pct ultimately falls on management
      Bron wanted Ty Lue in 2019.. Funny how management can say NO to Bron when it comes to the right moves, yet agreed to the Westbrick trade
      Its almost like Bron doesnt have all the power after all
      hmmmmmm

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot 29 днів тому

      @@Nostalgia9478 You don't follow LeGM do ya? Lol

    • @SilentMovements305
      @SilentMovements305 29 днів тому +1

      ​@@Nostalgia9478you kno bron n ad had Westbrook at lebrons house the season they got Westbrook they recruited that man let's not play ignorant or the delusional mind games the main problem is lebron james simple as that

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot 29 днів тому +1

      @@SilentMovements305 You got facts on this one and the MJ days were different Pippen was told to sit down, shut up, and take pennies while Rodman got a Brinks truck. Try that today and the media frenzy alone would cause the Bulls to move off it or trade somebody

  • @1muneymic
    @1muneymic 29 днів тому +33

    Darvin Ham didn’t deserve to get fired. And I don’t want to hear that roster junk, when last off season y’all said they won the off season

    • @danielwhite5298
      @danielwhite5298 29 днів тому +8

      You didn’t watch any games this season

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 29 днів тому +8

      Dopey Darvin was BY FAR the WORST Nba head coach of all time and 100 pct deserved to be fired

    • @Desnond
      @Desnond 29 днів тому +1

      @@Nostalgia9478 Rob one of the worst GM he still keeps his job lol y’all even praise him

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 29 днів тому +2

      @@Desnond Desperately deflecting doesnt change the FACT that Dopey Darvin waa BY FAR the WORST Nba head coach of all time. lol

    • @Desnond
      @Desnond 29 днів тому +2

      @@Nostalgia9478 I never said darvin is a good coach all I’m sayin.. you laker fanboys forget the whole point is to get better not blame people.. darvin isn’t the only person who needs to be fired…until you guys understand that get use to new rosters fumbling good players losing and scapegoating..

  • @samsebai4265
    @samsebai4265 29 днів тому +4

    Jay is absolutely right. Wilbon gave a general, lazy take defending a guy he likes. The reason Ham was able to “take” them to a WC final last year was because Pelinka made that roster much more compatible by the deadline than the horror show he assembled at the beginning of the year. Darvin Ham is a good dude, but he’s a horrible head coach. Terrible and flaky rotations, doesn’t get or force the ball to AD enough in clutch moments (he’s actually joked about this in a press conference), has the worst feel for timeouts I’ve ever seen from a coach and just generally is overmatched.

  • @siba2379
    @siba2379 29 днів тому +7

    "I've known Darvin Ham for a long time" we know why you're sticking up for Darvin Scam old man

  • @mrgetitdone85
    @mrgetitdone85 29 днів тому +73

    Basically being the coach of a lebron James lead team u get no glory but all of the blame

    • @limitedbom2206
      @limitedbom2206 29 днів тому +20

      That’s everything with lebron. Teammates, coaches, everyone gets no credit if they win, but if they lose then it’s trade everyone, lebron needs help, fire the coach. Thad’s peoples goat, no accountability.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 29 днів тому +11

      Spo and Ty Lue got glory coaching Bron

    • @tigerhoods7927
      @tigerhoods7927 29 днів тому +4

      lol facts cause his fanboys love to make excuses

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 29 днів тому +1

      And $$$$

    • @Savsgge
      @Savsgge 29 днів тому

      History favors winners. Those lineups were not winning line up

  • @kouleeofficial
    @kouleeofficial 29 днів тому +5

    And next year they gonna say about their new coach “it’s his first year, he needs to get familiar with the team” without blaming the team

  • @repentyasharahla7632
    @repentyasharahla7632 29 днів тому +7

    Kobe Bryant was coached by Del Harris, Kirt Rambis, Rudy Tomjanvich, Mike Brown, Mike Dantoni, Byron Scott, Frank Hamblin and he only won with PHIL JACKSON.

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot 29 днів тому

      How many A list coaches ever stepped up to take on a LeBron led team? Anyone

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 29 днів тому +2

      @@I.am_Groot Ty Lue and Spo

    • @repentyasharahla7632
      @repentyasharahla7632 29 днів тому

      @@I.am_Groot A list coaches are already employed

    • @repentyasharahla7632
      @repentyasharahla7632 29 днів тому

      @@I.am_Groot A list coaches are never available they stay employed

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot 29 днів тому +1

      @@repentyasharahla7632 Blah blah blah coaches not available over 20+ years? LeBron never once choosing to move teams where an established coach is employed? Let's be grown ups and look at it for what it is

  • @gametourny4ever627
    @gametourny4ever627 29 днів тому +7

    You need a strong presence like Pat Riley to tell Lebron to stfu and go out and play and listen to the coach that he has in place because that is the coach. Period. Miami is the only place this stuff didn’t happen because the Buck stops with Pat Riley.

    • @allanawanyo4966
      @allanawanyo4966 29 днів тому +1

      Listen to a coach who fiddles when there’s a timeout and can’t draw up a play

    • @allanawanyo4966
      @allanawanyo4966 29 днів тому +1

      And see how much Miami has achieved since lebron left

    • @gametourny4ever627
      @gametourny4ever627 29 днів тому +2

      @@allanawanyo4966 I would say not too bad all things considered. Yeah they haven’t won a title but they have gotten to the finals and consistently made the playoffs. What LeBron won two titles, one of which was a bubble title and the other he got lucky cause Draymond got suspended for the rest of the finals. Gtfoh

    • @abzda1700
      @abzda1700 29 днів тому

      @@gametourny4ever627😂😂😂 why can’t Miami get lucky and win one do you celebrate finals appearances or not

  • @dsdddsd4543we
    @dsdddsd4543we 29 днів тому +25

    Darvin Ham needed at least one more season. The Timberwolves beating Denver shows that there is a hunger issue with LA. They have to play better.

    • @milosmomcilovic4166
      @milosmomcilovic4166 29 днів тому +4

      Beating?The won one,i am not saying that dont have a chanse,but Minesota have a better roster,i would take ANT over LBJ and AD right now, especially with AD getting injured so easily after a bump form MPJ... Best defence in NBA,a true pg in Conley,6th man....

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 29 днів тому +2

      Too bad reality vehemently disagrees with you
      Dopey Darvin was BY FAR the WORST Nba head coach of all time
      Wolves winning game 1 just proves how horrible a coach Dopey Darvin is

    • @Scotty2Hotty4
      @Scotty2Hotty4 29 днів тому

      @@Nostalgia9478wait let me give some context. I do agree with you half way just a different point. Jay Williams Is right on what he said. If you agree with him then say less! Darvin Ham made no adjustments. I like Darvin Ham there’s accountability all over… But I can sit here and say even casual fans could see Rotation, Rebounding, and shooting were a problem. Rebounding that’s on players but you can debunk that with adding Hayes more minutes and chemistry he didn’t do that. I could really break down a lot thag nobody could even argue down.

    • @DaReaperGang
      @DaReaperGang 29 днів тому

      If darvin would’ve stayed for another year the lakers chances of a title would’ve been dropped tremendously. I don’t know if you guys are lebron haters or just casuals but Darvin literally never took accountability this entire season, he doesn’t hold players accountable, he’s way too passive, he doesn’t draw up plays, there’s a actual video out there lebron telling everyone to give him the board….

    • @Scotty2Hotty4
      @Scotty2Hotty4 29 днів тому +1

      @@DaReaperGang thank you. Too many post game interviews where he saying “it’s make or miss league” or “you have to tip Your hats to them” like Darvin always gives the other team credit. And quit the unloading projection by saying “we have to be better”

  • @prod2one
    @prod2one 29 днів тому +2

    Idk y’all need to watch Legendz video Ham couldn’t even draw up a play at times lol.

  • @TodTatney
    @TodTatney 29 днів тому +3

    Wilbon Told the truth.

  • @rasadami2968
    @rasadami2968 29 днів тому +12

    Of course Jay W would say no…

    • @lionpaw9118
      @lionpaw9118 29 днів тому +2

      Jay is a horrible analyst

    • @Andrew-qd3pf
      @Andrew-qd3pf 29 днів тому

      Feeling analyst

    • @pavlegrebenarevic382
      @pavlegrebenarevic382 29 днів тому

      Maybe because he has seen his bad coaching, no timeout calling, no adjustments, bad rotations lmaoo Jay Will pissed on them

    • @strangerthanparadise
      @strangerthanparadise 29 днів тому

      He’s just another bronsexual, Klutch mouthpiece, LeBron lapdog

  • @CoolTy23
    @CoolTy23 29 днів тому +3

    1. David Adelman
    2. Kenny Atkinson
    3. Chris Quinn
    4. Mike Budenholzer

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot 29 днів тому

      Mike B the only option if they want an established coach that can handle the roster. Newbies are going to continue to fail as Bron will step in and take over when they aren't doing everything his way

    • @derek4101
      @derek4101 29 днів тому

      Jarron Collins

  • @dsdddsd4543we
    @dsdddsd4543we 29 днів тому +1

    The Laker's offseason moves last year were great, but some significant issues were involved. Gabe Vincent was supposed to replace Schroder, but his injury messed up a crucial rotation. Last year, Schroder started and also came off the bench. This year, that role was transferred to Reaves and D'lo, who aren't actual floor generals. Vanderbilt was also huge in the Playoffs this year, but he was out this year. There was a lot of bad luck this season.

  • @blueprint2463
    @blueprint2463 29 днів тому +1

    Great segment on the Lakers as it relates to their view on coaches , make them pay a high cost for a coaching team , if not let them coach themselves

  • @fbgglizzy800
    @fbgglizzy800 27 днів тому

    Aye JJ don’t do iiitttt “What Happened To Last Two Security Gaurds” 😂😂😂

  • @gbone1812
    @gbone1812 29 днів тому +3

    We here talking bout a Cancun team

  • @dedrickowens27
    @dedrickowens27 29 днів тому +1

    What have any of those coaches done outside of the Lakers

  • @thaferg525
    @thaferg525 29 днів тому

    Thank you Michael Wilbon!!!

  • @southeastdaygo6193
    @southeastdaygo6193 29 днів тому +1

    With all due respect to Coach Hama first time head coach he did a great job last year tearing down a team mid season and getting them to a WCF. Having said that he was a first time coach and he should never have been hired. The Lakers dropped the ball by not hiring Coach Lue in the beginning.

  • @kiaunscustomsllc
    @kiaunscustomsllc 29 днів тому +7

    Darvin ham lack of in game adjustments and trash lineups cost the lakers so many games. I agree that some of the players under perform but, it’s the coach job to make those changes and he didn’t.I definitely think this firing was justified. It’s time to move on.

    • @IsHeARealOneVadaRealMC
      @IsHeARealOneVadaRealMC 29 днів тому

      ESPN hates the lakers but loves talking about them. They’ll always have a narrative that makes the Lakers look bad. These same analysts said the Lakers made to the conference finals by luck.

    • @ronm3034
      @ronm3034 29 днів тому

      What adjustments should he had made “guy who never was an nba head coach”?

    • @kiaunscustomsllc
      @kiaunscustomsllc 29 днів тому +2

      @@ronm3034 so I need to be a coach to realize running a 3 guard line up while playing against a bigger team like Denver wouldn’t work?

    • @ronm3034
      @ronm3034 29 днів тому

      @@kiaunscustomsllc when did he play a three guard line up .. and what players would you have him play instead?

    • @bambamtapia5232
      @bambamtapia5232 29 днів тому +1

      @@kiaunscustomsllc so he didn't watch the game lol. Don't mind him

  • @Nostalgia9478
    @Nostalgia9478 29 днів тому +6

    Good coaches last. Bad coaches dont
    If the Lakers had hired Ty Lue in 2019, hed STILL be their coach today
    That said. Vogels a decent coach that shouldnt have been fired
    Vogel was fired to appease WestBRICK
    Dopey Darvin 100 pct deserved to be fired

    • @larrywilson1862
      @larrywilson1862 29 днів тому +1

      Mark Jackson makes the most sense. He gets his second chance on a short leash.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 29 днів тому

      @@larrywilson1862 Bro. I'll take ANYONE over Dopey Darvin at this point. lol

  • @js1241
    @js1241 29 днів тому +1

    Game tape, look at it… Jamon getting credit for wcf when the players literally overcame his fails to make it into the post season then made the run.. he didn’t start Austin till after the deadline in 2023.. a lot of games we lost cause he pulled guys out like AR to close games… 😅

  • @waynegreen7970
    @waynegreen7970 25 днів тому

    The game within the game. Others knew that the Lakers would be looking for a new coach, so the Clippers immediately signed Lue and the Mavs immediately signed Kidd, foiling the Laker's coaching plans.

  • @rumit4all
    @rumit4all 29 днів тому +11

    Bi-annual and semi- annual is the same thing 😂😂

    • @marsspacex6065
      @marsspacex6065 29 днів тому +7

      Nope Bi annual can also mean every two years along with twice a year.

    • @Magnif1
      @Magnif1 29 днів тому +5

      Semi means halfway or part of a year. Bi Annual would mean every other year.

    • @estimatedeyes
      @estimatedeyes 29 днів тому

      And the idiot award goes to..........

  • @holdentruth8197
    @holdentruth8197 29 днів тому

    About time somebody said it !

  • @bryanmoncion8174
    @bryanmoncion8174 29 днів тому +1

    Green was cookin here

  • @kilahlipstick9687
    @kilahlipstick9687 29 днів тому +11

    Sorry Windbag and Michael Goldbond I know you want to take up for Coach Darvin Scam but Asst Coach Ham COULD NOT COACH and he became clear throughout both seasons. This team coached themselves. Some people are meant to be assistants and never coaches and Ham is one of them

    • @MichaelVillarreal-ix5pl
      @MichaelVillarreal-ix5pl 29 днів тому +2

      This team will not make the playoffs next year in it feel so good

    • @adriandantedanosos4146
      @adriandantedanosos4146 29 днів тому

      Then Lebron should be a player coach like Bill Russell. But then again, Lebron will only have himself to blame.

    • @vincente4570
      @vincente4570 29 днів тому

      Maybe so. But today’s players really don’t wanna be coached anyway

    • @skywalker2759
      @skywalker2759 29 днів тому +2

      @@MichaelVillarreal-ix5plI bet you said that last year lol stfu

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 29 днів тому

      ⁠@@MichaelVillarreal-ix5plYou FALSE PROPHETS will be WRONG as always in it feels soooo good

  • @TiggerLyOne
    @TiggerLyOne 29 днів тому

    Just need Adrien Brody on the sideline with Pat Riley hair and have King James do the rest!😂

  • @chaunceycurtis805
    @chaunceycurtis805 29 днів тому +5

    Mark Jackson enough said.

  • @PlayboiBreezeTV
    @PlayboiBreezeTV 29 днів тому +4

    That’s why Wilbon is respected by real fans 🎯

  • @emmualmensah2176
    @emmualmensah2176 29 днів тому +2

    If you think Darvin should have kept his job, you don’t know ball

  • @tackthekack1
    @tackthekack1 29 днів тому +1

    None of these "analysts" watch Laker games regularly. Ham's rotations were trash, he lost the locker room, he was outcoached by Malone and he NEVER accepts responsibility. If Spoelstra was the Laker's coach they would have beat Denver.

  • @pauljoseph3081
    @pauljoseph3081 29 днів тому +1

    JJ will end his coaching career before it ever began LMAO

  • @jey4908
    @jey4908 29 днів тому +1

    Did Wilbon want Bron and AD to announce Ham's firing? LOL

  • @diamondsharkentertainment7327
    @diamondsharkentertainment7327 29 днів тому +3

    Lakers have no true center to start the games. The only team without. That sounds like a Pelinka problem.

  • @PhoenixChaos
    @PhoenixChaos 29 днів тому +4

    The reason he’s always being coached by newbie first years coaches is because the interviews gotta go like this
    “Yup so that’s the gig. Also, we know it’s your first year and Lebron historically is a loser in the finals, but if you don’t win a finals in your first year, you and your entire staff are fired and most likely lebrons staff will paint you as the worst coach on Earth to protect Lebrons status and you’ll probably never coach again. Sound good? “

    • @hectorarguelles1596
      @hectorarguelles1596 29 днів тому

      That pretty much summed it up.

    • @PhoenixChaos
      @PhoenixChaos 29 днів тому

      @@hectorarguelles1596 Been watching it for decades now
      They really want us to ignore things like this

  • @ThaRealCstylez
    @ThaRealCstylez 29 днів тому +1

    The way the media drives certain narratives is comedy to me. Real laker fans know Ham wasn’t it. We tried to give him the benefit of the doubt but is lack of accountability became blatant

  • @FAR.KB24
    @FAR.KB24 29 днів тому

    As a lakers fan. I agree with Wilbons bron comments

  • @vickysteven6211
    @vickysteven6211 29 днів тому

    Michael Wilbon is so objective that he’s personal friend with Ham. Wow who would’ve thought! Lol

  • @10toesdown22
    @10toesdown22 29 днів тому

    They had Honeycomb Brazy beat playing in the background

    • @DC4L1991
      @DC4L1991 29 днів тому

      Time stamp?

    • @10toesdown22
      @10toesdown22 29 днів тому

      6:03 Honeycomb Brazy New Body beat

  • @MrTV-cs3mu
    @MrTV-cs3mu 29 днів тому +2

    If I’m JJ that’s not the job I want I rather build with a new team with more breathing room.

  • @kevinshell8392
    @kevinshell8392 29 днів тому +1

    Concentrate on the teams still playing!!!!!!! Get them the media attention!!!!

  • @bradleycampbell245
    @bradleycampbell245 29 днів тому +3

    Jeanie Buss becoming the owner of the Lakers was the worst move ever made and nobody cares about out that bubble championship. She got too many yes folks in her building and this organization is not built to win anything. Dr. Buss is turning over in his grave and if he was here, this would not be happening.

  • @Slenderirl
    @Slenderirl 29 днів тому +2

    Mark Jackson?

  • @HahaHaha-km4sm
    @HahaHaha-km4sm 29 днів тому +1

    Causals were saying the lakers won the off season now but fire him for losing to last years champs the same champs that swept them last year and the core pieces for both teams were pretty much the same this year yet now it’s the coaches fault

  • @shmuelhirsch2069
    @shmuelhirsch2069 23 дні тому

    Windhorst is one of the most listenable sports commentators out there.

  • @Real_TB12
    @Real_TB12 22 дні тому

    Im glad the dude knew the team playing the Celtics so I guess the C for Cleveland stands for magic 😅😅

  • @Alex-wg8zl
    @Alex-wg8zl 28 днів тому

    Are they forgetting all the rotation , lineups and terrible game management from Ham. He once started Reddish Prince and Vando with Bron and AD 😂

  • @MaxMontana-hm3zx
    @MaxMontana-hm3zx 29 днів тому +1

    Theses dudes be in thier feelings because of the GOAT DEBATE

  • @CalobAdamsInfamous913
    @CalobAdamsInfamous913 29 днів тому +1

    Wilbon is clearly speaking out of feelings instead of facts. Rotation wise and basketball iq Darvin Ham just didn’t have it. They underperformed

  • @edemehtawardhana5962
    @edemehtawardhana5962 29 днів тому +6

    LeBron is the Coach.

  • @YouDontKnowISH_
    @YouDontKnowISH_ 29 днів тому

    You know it’s bad when even ESPN (who always rides Bron) is calling it as it is: it’s not a great job for the reasons stated.

  • @garse70
    @garse70 28 днів тому

    I’ll coach the lakers for league minimum and win 50 games. I would sit like Phil Jackson during the game and let them try to get out of a 15 point deficit playing individual offense and crappy defense. Phil was a genius letting them know when they deviated from the game plan. He let them suffer.
    But, when you have a 20 point lead in the playoffs, he would call a time out, early to tell them to keep getting the ball inside and stop shooting threes.
    AD would not be taking any shots outside of 8-10 feet. He is your advantage every night in the paint.

  • @bigpimpen1000
    @bigpimpen1000 29 днів тому

    Would like to see Tim get a shot at coaching

  • @TheFrankHarrisShow
    @TheFrankHarrisShow 29 днів тому

    Darvin Ham was not ready...

  • @sportsguy25
    @sportsguy25 29 днів тому +2

    Lakers jobs is a a dangerous one

    • @ronm3034
      @ronm3034 29 днів тому

      I don’t know why any respectable coach would want that job

  • @king-ofheartz
    @king-ofheartz 29 днів тому +1

    🎯 Kenny Atkinson

  • @s7654r
    @s7654r 29 днів тому +1

    Lakers had already won the in season tournament banner and did not think it is important to win the championship.

  • @Kurd_Zero
    @Kurd_Zero 29 днів тому

    YAYYYY lets talk about the Lakers again

  • @dsdddsd4543we
    @dsdddsd4543we 29 днів тому

    To me, this is a risky move by LA. There are only so many other NBA coaches on the market right now. You could have still built with Ham, and make some changes to the roster.

  • @SD_simma
    @SD_simma 29 днів тому

    Bulls should hire Dervin Ham or Monty Williams. Billy Donovan is not cutting it anymore!

  • @Jerms21
    @Jerms21 29 днів тому

    I love how they say the Lakers need an experienced coach, and then bring up JJ Reddick... that's a real experienced coach right there!

    • @christopherkim1361
      @christopherkim1361 29 днів тому

      Huge fan of JJ post-nba and yet his only experience is coaching his ten year old son's aau team.. no assistant coaching exp at any level!! I'm so confused as to why JJ's name keeps being brought up for head coaching jobs??!!

  • @jrod132
    @jrod132 29 днів тому

    If the Lakers wanted to keep playing they should’ve tank the NO play in game to avoid Denver and go after OKC in the first round. The Lakers would’ve beaten OKC had they met. Love him or hate him, there's no denying that Darvin Ham will go down as one of the head coaches in NBA history

  • @ZomegJ
    @ZomegJ 29 днів тому

    I like how Jason Williams wants the Lakers to hire coaches who are already under contract with other teams. Especially Jason Kidd why would he leave a better situation in Dallas for a worse situation that is only going to get worse in LA.

  • @LebronNOTJames1300
    @LebronNOTJames1300 29 днів тому

    “He was so unseasoned he had 0 seasons” lmao dawg 😂😂

  • @ynotsan
    @ynotsan 29 днів тому

    Seriously? In the middle of the playoffs, you guys are discussing who will be the next coach for LeLakers 😎

  • @lillawrence2886
    @lillawrence2886 29 днів тому +1

    Lakers should give Mark Jackson a chance

  • @Blackineffect
    @Blackineffect 29 днів тому

    Wow Wilbon said what the rest of them are afraid to say, bravo

  • @DavidWilliam-xs3oj
    @DavidWilliam-xs3oj 29 днів тому

    That's space jam

  • @ryanbriones4026
    @ryanbriones4026 28 днів тому

    You meant who's the next scapegoat ? 😂

  • @danielterek3520
    @danielterek3520 28 днів тому +1

    Dwane Casey for Head Coach!

  • @BoodaSDavis
    @BoodaSDavis 29 днів тому

    Can we bring back great veteran coaches like Larry Brown, Mark Jackson, Stan & Jeff Van Gundy & countless others? These great basketball minds are literally just sitting around. Like seriously??

  • @edwin3813
    @edwin3813 29 днів тому

    Did LBJ just broke another NBA record? Having 10 coaches! The most in the history. 🤣

  • @MKIVD
    @MKIVD 23 дні тому

    I'm a Lakers fan and I think Bron and AD with their egos need to go. I would want to rebuild and establish a true culture and identity for LA, then a coaching system similar to what the Spurs and heat have, then get the players who will fit in with the culture, identity, and system that we have. It's not the 80s-2000s anymore where we could just get the best of the best and win every season. LA is stuck with an old mindset while the league moved on and became better exponentially.
    At this point, I'd rather have that than win one more championship with Bron then go now what after he leaves, then try to get the best players and coaches yet no one wants to come anymore because lets face it, LA is a dysfunctional organization right now.

  • @iwishiwasthomasshelby
    @iwishiwasthomasshelby 29 днів тому

    What about Phil Jackson?

  • @octavius9685
    @octavius9685 29 днів тому

    Laker fan who actually watch the game ARE NOT complaining about his firing...

  • @shaunflowers6382
    @shaunflowers6382 29 днів тому +2

    why not just make LeBron the head coach since he knows so much. And AD can be the assistance coach.

    • @jey4908
      @jey4908 29 днів тому

      *assistant coach

    • @tigerhoods7927
      @tigerhoods7927 29 днів тому +2

      lol his fans still wouldn’t blame him

  • @rayr1861
    @rayr1861 29 днів тому

    Wilbon, you guys don't have idea. Dervin did disservice his job. He wanted to be paid without work by been fired. His decisions were so flawed that even regular basketball knowledge people would say they were flawed.

  • @lacya.716
    @lacya.716 29 днів тому

    Wilbon is 100% correct.

  • @bokchoyiee
    @bokchoyiee 29 днів тому

    JJ Redick would be a great next coach for the Lakers. He already has the respect from Lebron based off their podcast collaboration.

  • @TheIsaiah4352
    @TheIsaiah4352 29 днів тому

    😂 the lack of awareness from the media is astounding 😂 I can’t believe that they watch lakers games

  • @russiadavidson3990
    @russiadavidson3990 29 днів тому

    If you really watched every Lakers game, you would see that they won a lot of games in spite of Hamm. 2 yrs of "experimental" line changes; misuse of timeouts; lots leads and momentum shifts; stagnate offenses! We have eyes, another year would've been insanity! I'll give Rob a pass on the roster with injuries, but Rob needs to pull a 🐇 out his 🫏 this summer 🖤💜💛

  • @Riboflavin1947
    @Riboflavin1947 29 днів тому

    tell me you didn't watch laker games this season without telling me you didn't watch laker games this season

  • @mcronn1002
    @mcronn1002 29 днів тому

    Grenny “if it 3 years away it won’t be your problem. Because you’re going to fired after two “. 😂 that’s priceless this is why This show is better than/ Skip undisputed/ Nick first things first/ Steven A/First take.!!

  • @ryanbarnes840
    @ryanbarnes840 29 днів тому

    I agree...why are we not blaming LeBron and AD?

  • @tsvetanbliznakov7694
    @tsvetanbliznakov7694 29 днів тому

    Imagine if Lakers had a reasonable coach with some experience to call a few timeouts and make some changes in game 2 instead of losing 20pt lead and losing a game they were winning 99% of the time just that 1% being the last shot... thats crazy... with game 4 what game 4 was it would've been 2-2 going to game 5 which was also easily winnable game with better rotation being able to count on other players rather than AD playing with 1 hand taking 1 shot in 15min after he got hurt.. 3-2 Lakers and even if they lost 4-3 cuz AD couldn't play last 2 games nobody would've been mad at Darvin Scam. LeBron and AD did all they can do to dominate the games they played as much as possible, if they want to blame Darvin Scam for not winning they have every right, cuz they showed up and played way better than Jokic and Murray and got defeated by Nuggets coaching and players utilized perfectly like MPJ, AG and other role players and bench and etc. Lakers had so many clueless possessions sometimes for several minutes in a row and so many players not being used properly! The media just reading raw data and talking not even watching the games... clueless.
    I want to see all Lebron's haters and Darvin Scam's supporters's favorite players carrying teams at 39 years of age being let down in their last few good years by the organization with bad decision after bad decision.